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: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Robyn   If it weren't for the distance - I'd be in boots and all but Warragul is about 1hr 15 from home - a little too far I think.  I l

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al when need be!  Well done to all of you already living this dream and those of you who have set up such programs!!!   Kiwi Kim   ---Original Message---   From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 12/06/2005 7:27:38 p.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems

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Well said Deborah.    ---Original Message---   From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 16/06/2005 10:54:58 a.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Problems with new models   Hi All, This is my first post, I was drawn to your discussion about Caseload Midwife

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pound bub (first baby) at home on the lounge room floor with her midwife.   What a buzz!   Pinky - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

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t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:33:04 +1000 (AUS Eastern Standard Time)>>>Oh Carol>>That's so dissapointing to read!!!  Personally,  I'd

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w rewarding this model of care is!!!  Enough rambling!  Hoping you find some interest soon!   Kiwi Kim   ---Original Message---   From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 21/06/2005 1:26:32 p.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models   Dear Car

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Dear Carol, Congratulations on your and your colleagues achievement in offering continuity of care to women in Warragul. I am sorry to hear you're having trouble recruiting a replacement for your colleague. The College has a free section on our website for advertising vacant positions, a

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Hi Carol I will be free at the end of October and would be available to take up a position with your team if there is atill a vacancy then. If you want to talk further you can email me off list.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Alan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

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PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Doyle Sent: Friday, 17 June 2005 8:30 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Dear Barb, We are in the Alpine Shire, notheast Victoria. We are very near the snow (which is falling heavily at present

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ssage - From: "Dr Barbara Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models > > > Dear Mary > > > > Congratulations on your funding. Whereabouts is your service? The College > of Midwive

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.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Denise, No I haven't spoken to Ryde. Are they in W.A.? Warragul is 1 hour East of Melbourne. It is beautiful dairy country with rolling hills. It is 1 hour from

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s.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models HI All Just on the topic of Midwifery Models of Care. Is there any other Hospitals in Victoria having trouble with implementation of the models that have received funding from DHS?

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. I'll take being called in to a known woman's birth at 2am over shift work any day. Thanks, Alice Morgan From: "Carol Van Lochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems Wit

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DunstanSent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:00 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models HI All   Just on the topic of Midwifery Models of Care. Is there any other Hospitals in Victoria having trouble with implementation of the models that

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Mary can please email me off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Thanks   - Original Message - From: Mary Doyle To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Dear Andrea and

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Hi Andrea, Thanks for the 'hug' :0 We would not rule out B Mids & post grad dips if they were interested. Carol>From: "Andrea Bilcliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

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>From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:32 +0800>>Dear Carol>>Have you compared notes with the managers of Ryde>>As I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

and it doesn't cause a problem. But it seems that when it is midwives negotiating with doctors the rules change. Thanks again for your thoughts Helen - Original Message - From: "Andrea Bilcliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:23 PM Subje

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- Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Carol,   I find this very sad too. You are in the uniqu

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I do suturing that I feel comfortable with. In the past when I have not felt comfortable then I have asked a friendly GP/obs to help the women and they have. Love Sally -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

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Bilcliff To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Carol,   I find this very sad too. You are in the unique & wonderful position of having both the funding & obstetric support.

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es change. Thanks again for your thoughts Helen - Original Message - From: "Andrea Bilcliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing Like Andrea Q, I have also attended several works

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Like Andrea Q, I have also attended several workshops (and will continue to) but have never had the opportunity to suture. There just hasn't been the need either. I too discuss this with the women antenatally. I explain that if there is a tear that is small & sits together well, it will most lik

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e/assessment in the mean time until everyone is "up to speed". Interested in your thoughts on the subject. Helen Cahill - Original Message - From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pr

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mean time until everyone is "up to speed". Interested in your thoughts on the subject. Helen Cahill - Original Message - From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

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I have read that around 40 is reasonable caseload. But if there is a lot of traveling in the particular area then it needs to be less. I think that 30-34 is probably about right for me with a mix of local women and women who may be 30-40 minutes away. I do almost all antenatal visits at the women

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I agree with Mary that 60 women per month is not feasible as a caseload. I am also experienced working in this model. Here in Manitoba we are expected to carry at least 30 women per year. This lower number was set to compensate for the fact that we are to "target" women who might most benefi

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No, this is the maximum number of women they feel, a midwife doing 'caseload' can effectively care for. Sally - Original Message - From: "Jennifairy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Mode

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Hi Carol,   I find this very sad too. You are in the unique & wonderful position of having both the funding & obstetric support. What a pity there's no midwifery interest. One night and one weekend a month is not much to be on call really. (I would love to be in a group practice where I coul

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women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."   — Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With

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Title: Message 60 women is not feasible at all!  As an experienced “caseloader” that would take an enormous effort and would not be sustainable. A midwife on another list who has also been discussing this theme wrote:  “ Part of the reason for burn out however, is due to hospital managemen

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t; >Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +1000 > >Maybe you need to re look at your definition of continuity, It >appears to me that what you are tr

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a Quanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models>Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +1000>>Maybe you need to re look at your definition of continuity, It >appears to me that w

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- Original Message - *From:* Jackie Doolan <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au <mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM *Subject:* RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Carol, I am won

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Title: Message The ANF specifies 40-45 woman only for a 'caseload'.   Sally - Original Message - From: Jackie Doolan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

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Title: Message Carol, I am wondering how feasible a caseload is 60 women? This seems like a large number and may be one of the reasons why staff are not feeling up to the task. Would 40 primary women and 40 shared women not be a more doable workload? I know this has financial implications bu

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Maybe you need to re look at your definition of continuity, It appears to me that what you are trying to sell to people is a type of team midwifery that you have modified to your own needs and as you are finding out team midwifery is not as easy to sell. The best part about true caseloading is

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As you would guess, I am totally supportive of what Robyn says. Cheers,  Mary Murphy   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Robyn Thompson Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2005 4:11 PM To: 'Kim Stead' Cc: ozmidwifery@acegraphic