RE: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-28 Thread Birth Centre-MBH
Hi Emily, I don't think there is much evidence to support not doing VE's in labour at the moment. But I guess as most midwives will tell you that with experience you can learn to judge where the woman is at without invasive VE's all the time (of course there are always a few surprises!!) I

RE: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-26 Thread Judy Chapman
You are probably right Michelle. Not a good idea to do a VE just to confirm full dilation. If they push well for ages with no progress that may be an indication but so often you see either the head or other positive signs of progressin a reasonable time so why make her uncomfortable? Cheers

Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-26 Thread Glenys Armstrong
Hi Judy, I have been away for a couple of days but would love a copy of the breast feeding video if it is still available Cheers Glenys [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread jo
InterestingI work with our local homebirth midwife as a doula and we had a client a few weeks back who never had the urge to push, baby was finally born about 51/2 hours after full dilation. The urge never came to her, she actively pushed towards the end - not directed by anyone...although not

RE: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread Emily
i have been wondering lately about the other side of things. i was with a woman last week who was feeling strong urges to push and was pushing involuntarily at the peak of each contraction from about 4cm. she only had two VEs - 4cm and 6cm. about half an hour after the 6cm one everyone was still

Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread brendamanning
Emily, This is quite common for lots of reasons but very often where the cervix is at just hasn't caught up to where the body is at ie the woman looks acts fully but is only partly dilated, her behaviour her cervical dilation aren't congruent. I'm not sure what the answer is but it's

Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread brendamanning
Emily, I don't think you could get a post vag wall lac prior to being fully because the head ( which does the tearing) is not on the pelvic floor before the Cx is fully. Must be another explanation. BM - Original Message - From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread Emily
yeh i realise that :) i just thought it might have been because of the pelvic floor being tensed up and hence tearing more easily once the head did reach there surely if youre fighting your intuition, youll be more tense and tissues less flexible ? Emily, I don't think you could get a post

Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread brendamanning
SORRY !! No doubt. - Original Message - From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing yeh i realise that :) i just thought it might have been because of

RE: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing

2005-08-25 Thread Michelle Windsor
I guess the big fear associated with pushing before the woman is fully is that the cervix will either swell up (and then take longer to dilate) or tear. About the only time I've seen swelling of the cervix is when women are directed to push by staff who have been mistaken in their VE (ie not fully