Hi all,
Hoping there is someone out there familiar with IVF, as it's
definitely not my area of expertise!
Have a question about getting pregnant using IVF and
breastfeeding. A woman has a 4 month old, conceived using ICSI with embryo
implantation procedure. They have more embryos frozen,
I really do think they are someones idea of an internet joke!!
marilyn
who having been in the USA until rather recently actually thinks not even
in the US
- Original Message -
From: Lynne Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:28 AM
Subject:
Dear Jo,
Interesting where are these women to
birth?
Withthe women's family members sounds like
quite a group at each of the labours and births?
My experience of the mostsatisfying birthing
expereinces for all has beenat home whenthe woman has turned in and worked with her baby more than
Dear Honey
I agree with all you say I am only asking for the
full story to be in the article that as you say Doulas are needed by women in a
system that is not women centred.
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who
I totally agree with all you have said Honey. Very
very elegant.
marilyn
ps I have worked as a doula (in the USA)with
clients who had an independent midwife but limited family available: a
complimentary but different service than the midwife provides especially if she
has a busy practice.
I think i have to agree with you Denise. In
NZ where the maternity system is different to here in Australia, and there is
more woman centered midwifery care there are no doulas that i know of. In fact
one of my lecturers at Auckland University of Technology, told us one day that
Doulas were
Hi Denise,
The births I spoke of : One at home with a private
mw, one in a birth centre with community midwives and the other on a labour ward
once again with the community midwives who have practicing rights at the
hospital.
I know of a few women who have birthed with almost
a dozen
AARRGGHH
This is one of those "that only happens in America"
stories.
I can't believe such a flagrant breach of WHO
codes.
I would complain to the nurse manager of the unit,
and if you don't get and appropriate response from her, then the director of
nursing of the hospital.
And people
I still boycott Nestle products.
I think i have for nearly 20 years!
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
Quoting Kirsten Blacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AARRGGHH
This is one of those that only happens in America stories.
I can't believe such a flagrant breach of WHO codes.
I would complain to the
"We must attempt to tell the whole truth about birth, the truth that includes
transformation, mastery, satisfaction, personal power, and the difference
between pain and suffering." Cheri Van Hoover
The Art of Midwifery
Even when a woman is feeling a little "pushy," she may be fully
dilated
You know i think when doulas are seen as a
threat to the midwife's role either in the home as an independent practitioner
or in the hospital setting no matter how tuned in or turned on or turned off the
hospital is then the doula becomes an adverary and she is a threat.
However she is not
Hi Denise
In my(lengthy)article on homebirth (which will be in the same issue of Wellbeing) I covered the mums having the homebirths, the independent midwives and the problem with our medicalised hospital system. Hopefully the editor is going to not edit too much. The article is written so people
Could we just STOP the anti American hyperbole that
flows through and through this list!
First of all this happened here somewhere in
Australia. And on last look nestle is a Swiss company!
Does everything always sound and taste better if it
has some kind of UK or NZ lilt to it??
I really
Hi,
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as
doulas and midwives, are we not all there to support a woman, It should be about
her, not who is a threat to who. When it becomes about our positions, it stops
being about the woman and her journey.
Just my 2cents. I have read some very
Hi everyone, I wanted to let you guys know that I put a lot about the current Australian maternity system in the homebirth article, showing the problems with our very medicalised system. For the doula article I am thinking I should focus on the positives, seeing I covered a lot of negative ground
Before the homebirth article these issues were unknown to me, which
is very sad I think, because these issues are not raised in mainstream
Australian media. Even ! my articles - they are in Wellbeing, which is an
alternative health mag.cheersKylie Carberry
I think it is fantastic Kylie,
Dear All,
I do not see doulas or anyone the woman wants at
her birth as a threat it is the woman's journey.
I am only interested in being reflective about the
journey in general and comparing experiences and knowledge.
I have no real experience of doulas at birth accept
in hospitals there
Dear Kylie,
I am sure your article will be )or is already) a
positive contribution to the birth debate in our culture)thank you for the
consideration
Denise Hynd
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For,
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret
Dear Kirsten
When I was a nursing educator I used to say "If
nurses' do their job well they may be out of a job?" the same is true of
midwives.
For both I beleive as it is nursing.
Midwifery-obstetrics is definitely a reflection of doctors- nurses-
midwives(as groups) not doing their work
I have seen this sponsorhip of lunches midwives and
doctorsin a few different settings.
ie. "An update of a new formula in a private hospital setting.
The rep was raving on about what they had put in their formula to improve it. I
asked her how did they know how much to put in ( I think she
When i wrote that we can work together I meant that if the
woman wants both types of care that we as professionals should be able to
facilitate her needs without turf issues...That's what I meant
too.MM
thanks Marymy brain is not working as it should
today...lack of sleep or caffine! perhaps too much politics? I dont
know! It all seems too hard sometimes.
love Jo
- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004
Hi Denise
Irealised that you were asking for the full
details pros and cons to be in the story,but I guess your
emailprompted me to support the work that I do.I hope I didn't sound
attacking. I am so passionate about women, birth and birthing choices
thatI spend a large part of my life at
An anal dilation procedure which is manually done (under anaesthesia). I
will never forget seeing it in OT . Push Pals remind me of the same thing,
except that for a Lord's procedure to be considered and indicated,
narrowing/stricture of the anal sphincter must be present, so there is a
Hi Everyone,
We've just released two new bumper stickers - one has a political message
(in time for the election) and the other is of a more general nature. You
can see them on our web site:
www.birthinternational.com
Hope you like them!
Cheers
Andrea
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Andrea Robertson
Birth International
Kirsten wrote:
I think i have to agree with you Denise. In NZ where the maternity
system is different to here in Australia, and there is more woman centered
midwifery care there are no doulas that i know of. In fact one of my
lecturers at Auckland University of Technology, told us one day that
Maralyn Kleidon said:
Could we just STOP the anti American hyperbole that flows through and
through this list!.. First of all this happened here somewhere in Australia.
And on last look nestle is a Swiss company!... Does everything always sound
and taste better if it has some kind of UK or NZ lilt
Thats just plain rude regardless of who is paying for lunch. As a MCHN and midwife I can say that it is not outside my experience. Having lunch, study days whatever paid for by a formula making company doesn't constitute a commitment to promote their product over BF. The reality is that many woman
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