[ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an "epidural headache" for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe "foot-drop", the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage.Very debillitating for a young mother of 3.I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Fw: Fw: [ozmidwifery] RE CHoices to VBAC
I am passing this on from Jenny. - Original Message - From: Jenny Gamble To: Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [ozmidwifery] RE CHoices to VBAC Hi Jo I do not currently subscribe to ozmidwifery - can you post this for me Re Mandalaine She wasn't planninga homebirth and what if she was? we either respect women's right to informed choice or we don't. I agree with you Sue - the argument about application of the evidence ifs often used like a political football - those wanting to assert control often use it slectively - mostly ignoring the evidence that women want to retain control over decision making within a respectful and supportive environmentand have better outcomes when they do. Regards Jenny DrJennyGamble,LecturerConvenor,MasterofMidwiferyProgramSchoolofNursing,GriffithHealthGriffithUniversityLoganCampusUniversityDrive,MeadowbrookQueensland4131Phone0733821083 -"Mrs Joanne M Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: "Jenny Gamble" [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Mrs Joanne M Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 10/2/2005 12:09PMSubject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] RE CHoices to VBACA question and comment for you Jenny and others from Oz mid.Jo- Original Message - From: "Sue Cookson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:32 AMSubject: [ozmidwifery] RE CHoices to VBAC Hi Jenny, (and others), Just interested in Robyn Turnbull's reply to you re the Caboolture woman's 'medical condition' that was not disclosed in the newspaper coverage. Do you have any idea what that was - and also I've been contacted by the Vacc Awareness Group who believed the woman had planned a homebirth. The Courier Mail story alludes to that ... was this really what it was about?? Reporting to DOCS etc seems to be the new way to control ... all of us. Two of my women have been reported in the last 2 years for their choices ... This new 'best practice' cry is also very handy for those wishing to not support our rights to make choice - it was used in this case, and also for a woman who was transferred out of a low key hospital to a higher level one at full dilation to a c/section when it was discovered her baby was breech... even though the drs in both hospitals were competent with breech. Sounds like 'best practice' overrides safety and evidence based information to me. What a strange world we have created. Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
Hi Sharon An Osteopath told me that without prior knowledge she could tell if and where someone had been given an epidural and in the long term time frame you are talking of. I find that amazing and alarming. After my 4mth old had a lumbar puncture I had him treated by an Osteopath and she said she could feel the difference clearly in the areas below and above the sight. Hopefully for him treating it early will be enough. It might be worth contacting the Osteopathic association to see if they have any information that you can use. They have a website or try the phonebook. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaz42 Sent: Monday, 14 February 2005 8:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
thanks for that I will look on the website. not enough information is given to women when an epidural is offered. thankfully I had my second child with no pain relief whatsoever which was a more natural and positive experience for me. - Original Message - From: Megan and Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon An Osteopath told me that without prior knowledge she could tell if and where someone had been given an epidural and in the long term time frame you are talking of. I find that amazing and alarming. After my 4mth old had a lumbar puncture I had him treated by an Osteopath and she said she could feel the difference clearly in the areas below and above the sight. Hopefully for him treating it early will be enough. It might be worth contacting the Osteopathic association to see if they have any information that you can use. They have a website or try the phonebook. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaz42 Sent: Monday, 14 February 2005 8:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is
[ozmidwifery] Birthspirit Intensive
Andrea, I have just received my Birth Intenational catalogue and the Birth Spirit Intensive dates are given as Tuesday July 7 - Thursday July 9. The problem is that July 7 is Thursday and July 9 is Saturday. Could you clarify the dates for us please. Thanks, Leanne. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
Hi Sharon, One of the problems with epidurals (especially those done years ago when full blocks were popular) is that it is very easy to wrench the joints and ligaments, especially if the woman is moved in any way while the epidural is in place. Without the protection of the musculature, the joints are vulnerable, and midwives know that if her legs need to be lifted (for example, into stirrups in preparation for forceps) then both legs should be lifted together, to avoid the lower vertebrae, especially their junction with the spine, being jarred. The back pain that may result after the birth may not be because of the epidural itself, but rather what happened to the woman's body while the epidural was in effect. A study by Macarthur that investigated the long term results of epidurals in 11,701 women in Birmingham found that backache was more common for women who had epidurals (18.9% compared to 10.5%), more frequent headaches ( 4.6% compared to 2.9%) more neckache (2.4% compared to 1.6%) and tingling in the hands or fingers (3.0% compared to 2.2%). The results could not be correlated to social or obstetric factors. 26 women had numbness or tingling in the lower back, buttocks and leg, of whom 23 had epidurals. Of 34 women with spinal headache, nine reported long term headaches. This is not a randomised controlled trial but is nevertheless one of the few studies that have investigated long term problems. Important to note that RCTs of epidurals are very unlikely to occur, as the anaesthetists have taken the stand that to perform an RCT would require that women in the control group would be denied access to this technique and to do this would be unethical. Perhaps this is one reason why they are so uninterested in the problems women report - they can claim that there is no evidence to support their claims that the problem was linked to the epidural. The reason there is no evidence is because they are not doing any studies! Macarthur C, Lewis M, Knox E. Investigation of long term problems after obstetric epidural anaesthesia. BMJ 1992; 304:(1279-82. Regards Andrea t 08:45 AM 14/02/2005, you wrote: the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
Hi Marcia, My daughter has just completed her Bmid and is commencing a fulltime position at Box Hill next month. As far as I know most, if not all, of her contemporaries have had job offers. Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 14:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birthspirit Intensive
Hi Leanne, Oh dear! The dates are: Tuesday July 5 (starts late in the afternoon) - Thursday July 7. Sorry about the confusion - we've had three registrations already ! Regards, Andrea At 11:54 AM 14/02/2005, you wrote: Andrea, I have just received my Birth Intenational catalogue and the Birth Spirit Intensive dates are given as Tuesday July 7 - Thursday July 9. The problem is that July 7 is Thursday and July 9 is Saturday. Could you clarify the dates for us please. Thanks, Leanne. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
Hi Marcia, One of the two grads of the Bachelor of Midwifery from ACU that I know has a graduate year at Sunshine. The other is off for a well earned break with her family on a trip around Australia. We are very proud of them, and know that they will be wonderful midwives. Nicole. (Bendigo). - Original Message - From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
May I ask why you are interested and who you are? There is aBMid internet collective who I am sure will be happy toanswer any genuine questions you may have. I'm a recent BMid grad myself (not trained here though) so I'm always happy to chat about my experiences as well but I'm also aware that there's some among us (midwives) who like to eat their young! Kim. ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 02/14/05 14:23:42 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
Hello Kim and others, I am a clinical midwifery educator at Werribee mercy hospital. I have been involved in the interviewing processes without knowing outcomes other than the 2 places we could offer. It seemed to me that because of the competitive numbersand an unknown number of postions being offered, that some girls may have missed out. I am interested in the overall outcomes now and in future. marcia - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP May I ask why you are interested and who you are? There is aBMid internet collective who I am sure will be happy toanswer any genuine questions you may have. I'm a recent BMid grad myself (not trained here though) so I'm always happy to chat about my experiences as well but I'm also aware that there's some among us (midwives) who like to eat their young! Kim. ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 02/14/05 14:23:42 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
all bmid graduates of the uni sa underdale group have employement either inpublic or private hospitals here in South australia. there were originally 25 which started and 10 finished the 3 year course drop outs were through pregnancy or faliure but of those who falied they have all continued with the course and should finish this year. - Original Message - From: Joy Cocks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP Hi Marcia, My daughter has just completed her Bmid and is commencing a fulltime position at Box Hill next month. As far as I know most, if not all, of her contemporaries have had job offers. Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 14:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
