from:"Kelly @ BellyBelly"

See below, she would like me to circulate this.

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From: Mark  Catherine Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bookings

Hi Kelly,

We are launching an On-line Nanny agency on the 20th of November and we have
a dedicated section for Doulas.

If you are interested on being listed for free, could you please let me
know.

I will be in Victoria for Interviews between the 6th of November and the
10th of November. We do not have set rates, we advertise the rates that you
choose.

Kindly yours,
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[ozmidwifery] La Trobe Post Natal Care Study









Anyone heard about this? From one of my members



I just attended a focus group at Geelong Hossy to discuss
options for future postnatal care. The study is being carried out throughout Victoria to determine
what women really want.
It was quite interesting - there were a range of women there (with children and
without) and we had an interesting chat.

They presented 4 options for postnatal care. Basically the options varied the
number of days in hossy, and the number of visits by the dom midwives, but
option 2 was a pearler...
1 night hossy, 2 nights hotel, and 1 dom visit (for vaginal birth) How rocking
would that option be in the public system!! WOOHO!

Anyway, what we basically came up with as a group was that we wanted complete
flexibility, and after the first night in hossy we wanted to make a decision
then as to what we wanted from that point. Ahhh women - so easy to please 

Has anyone else been involved in this research study?



Best Regards,



Kelly Zantey

Creator,BellyBelly.com.au

Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby

BellyBelly Birth Support

[ozmidwifery] Risks of Elective Caesarean Sept 06









In case you havent seen it yet, read below. I also
hear there is another study just come out or about too, about maternal
mortality rates which had found that mothers were 4 times more likely to die if
they had a c/section, compared with a normal birth. It broke down cause of
death by %:



Voluntary
C-Sections Result in More Baby Deaths 
LARGE STUDY shows significant evidence
Article published in the New York Times

By NICHOLAS BAKALAR
Published: September 5, 2006

A recent study of nearly six million births has found that the risk of death to
newborns delivered by voluntary Caesarean section is much higher than
previously believed.

Researchers have found that the neonatal mortality rate for Caesarean delivery
among low-risk women is 1.77 deaths per 1,000 live births, while the rate for
vaginal delivery is 0.62 deaths per 1,000. Their findings were published in
this month's issue of Birth: Issues in Perinatal Care.

The percentage of Caesarean births in the United States increased to 29.1
percent in 2004 from 20.7 percent in 1996, according to background information
in the report.

Mortality in Caesarean deliveries has consistently been about 1½ times that of
vaginal delivery, but it had been assumed that the difference was due to the
higher risk profile of mothers who undergo the operation.

This study, according to the authors, is the first to examine the risk of
Caesarean delivery among low-risk mothers who have no known medical reason for
the operation.

Congenital malformations were the leading cause of neonatal death regardless of
the type of delivery. But the risk in first Caesarean deliveries persisted even
when deaths from congenital malformation were excluded from the calculation.

Intrauterine hypoxia  lack of oxygen  can be both a reason for
performing a Caesarean section and a cause of death, but even eliminating those
deaths left a neonatal mortality rate for Caesarean deliveries in the cases
studied at more than twice that for vaginal births.

Neonatal deaths are rare for low-risk women  on the order of about
one death per 1,000 live births  but even after we adjusted for
socioeconomic and medical risk factors, the difference persisted, said
Marian F. MacDorman, a statistician with the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and the lead author of the study. 

This is nothing to get people really alarmed, but it is of concern given
that we're seeing a rapid increase in Caesarean births to women with no
risks, Dr. MacDorman said.

Part of the reason for the increased mortality may be that labor, unpleasant as
it sometimes is for the mother, is beneficial to the baby in releasing hormones
that promote healthy lung function. The physical compression of the baby during
labor is also useful in removing fluid from the lungs and helping the baby
prepare to breathe air.

The researchers suggest that other risks of Caesarean delivery, like possible
cuts to the baby during the operation or delayed establishment of
breast-feeding, may also contribute to the increased death rate. 

The study included 5,762,037 live births and 11,897 infant deaths in the United States
from 1998 through 2001, a sample large enough to draw statistically significant
conclusions even though neonatal death is a rare event.

There were 311,927 Caesarean deliveries among low-risk women in the analysis.

The authors acknowledge that the study has certain limitations, including
concerns about the accuracy of medical information reported on birth
certificates. 

That data is highly reliable for information like method of delivery and birth
weight, but may underreport individual medical risk factors.

It is possible, though unlikely, that the Caesarean birth group was inherently
at higher risk, the authors said.

Dr. Michael H. Malloy, a co-author of the article and a professor of pediatrics
at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, said that doctors might want to
consider these findings in advising their patients.

Despite attempts to control for a number of factors that might have
accounted for a greater risk in mortality associated with C-sections, we
continued to observe enough risk to prompt concern, he said. 

When obstetricians review this information, perhaps it will promote
greater discussion within the obstetrical community about the pros and cons of
offering C-sections for convenience and promote more research into
understanding why this increased risk persists.



Best Regards,



Kelly Zantey

Creator,BellyBelly.com.au

Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby

BellyBelly Birth Support



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RE: [ozmidwifery] Risks of Elective Caesarean Sept 06









This is all I have:






 
  
  Accepted February 28, 2006
  
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  Article published
  online 29 Aug 2006
  
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  Affiliations
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  1Marian
  MacDorman and Fay Menacker are at the Division of Vital Statistics, National
  Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
  Hyattsville, Maryland; 2Eugene Declercq is at the Maternal and Child Health
  Department, Boston University School of Public Health, Boston, Massachusetts;
  and 3Michael
  Malloy is at the Department of Pediatrics, University of Texas Medical
  Branch, Galveston, Texas, USA.
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  Correspondence
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  Marian
  F. MacDorman, PhD, Division of Vital Statistics, National Center for Health
  Statistics, CDC, 3311 Toledo Road, Room 7318, Hyattsville, Maryland 20782,
  USA.
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  To cite this article
  MacDorman, Marian F.,
  Declercq, Eugene, Menacker, Fay  Malloy, Michael H. (2006)
  Infant and Neonatal
  Mortality for Primary Cesarean and Vaginal Births to Women with No
  Indicated Risk, United States, 19982001 Birth Cohorts.
  Birth33(3),175-182.
  doi: 10./
  j.1523-536X.2006.00102.x
  
  
  
  
 










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Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby

BellyBelly Birth Support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ganesha Rosat
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
2:39 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Risks
of Elective Caesarean Sept 06





Thanks for sharing Kelly,

Do u have the reference for that article

Cheers Ganesha











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006
1:29 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Risks of
Elective Caesarean Sept 06





In case you havent seen it yet, read below. I also
hear there is another study just come out or about too, about maternal
mortality rates which had found that mothers were 4 times more likely to die if
they had a c/section, compared with a normal birth. It broke down cause of
death by %:



Voluntary
C-Sections Result in More Baby Deaths 
LARGE STUDY shows significant evidence
Article published in the New York Times

By NICHOLAS BAKALAR
Published: September 5, 2006

A recent study of nearly six million births has found that the risk of death to
newborns delivered by voluntary Caesarean section is much higher than
previously believed.

Researchers have found that the neonatal mortality rate for Caesarean delivery
among low-risk women is 1.77 deaths per 1,000 live births, while the rate for
vaginal delivery is 0.62 deaths per 1,000. Their findings were published in
this month's issue of Birth: Issues in Perinatal Care.

The percentage of Caesarean births in the United States increased to 29.1
percent in 2004 from 20.7 percent in 1996, according to background information
in the report.

Mortality in Caesarean deliveries has consistently been about 1½ times that of
vaginal delivery, but it had been assumed that the difference was due to the
higher risk profile of mothers who undergo the operation.

This study, according to the authors, is the first to examine the risk of
Caesarean delivery among low-risk mothers who have no known medical reason for
the operation.

Congenital malformations were the leading cause of neonatal death regardless of
the type of delivery. But the risk in first Caesarean deliveries persisted even
when deaths from congenital malformation were excluded from the calculation.

Intrauterine hypoxia  lack of oxygen  can be both a reason for
performing a Caesarean section and a cause of death, but even eliminating those
deaths left a neonatal mortality rate for Caesarean deliveries in the cases
studied at more than twice that for vaginal births.

Neonatal deaths are rare for low-risk women  on the order of about
one death per 1,000 live births  but even after we adjusted for
socioeconomic and medical risk factors, the difference persisted, said
Marian F. MacDorman, a statistician with the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and the lead author of the study. 

This is nothing to get people really alarmed, but it is of concern given
that we're seeing a rapid increase in Caesarean births to women with no
risks, Dr. MacDorman said.

Part of the reason for the increased mortality may be that labor, unpleasant as
it sometimes is for the mother, is beneficial to the baby in releasing hormones
that promote healthy lung function. The physical compression of the baby during
labor is also useful in removing fluid from the lungs and helping the baby
prepare to breathe air.

The researchers suggest that other risks of Caesarean delivery, like possible
cuts to the baby during the operation or delayed establishment of
breast-feeding, may also contribute

[ozmidwifery] IUGR

2006-10-10 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









A mum and dear friend I am supporting is due on November 9th
and has had two previous IOL for IUGR. At her scan today, she said:


Head Circ around 31cm just a couple of days off Gestational Age... aka
perfect
Leg bone length - Perfect about 4 days off Gest Age
BPD (not sure what that is) - Approx a week under Gest Age
Amnio Levels - Perfect 
Blood flow through cord - Perfect
AC (stomach circ) - 4 weeks below gestational age - she checked it 3 times. 

So they graphed it and the computer automatically plotted it and gave a weight
reading. 

4lb 11oz the computer was saying
give or take 13% on each side of that. So looks like another tiny baby on my
hands. Now we have to sit and wait what they say at my next antenatal
appointment, at my last she said if there is an issue she may call me in early.

They checked this scan against Kameron and Lachlans too at the same gest age
and Ashton is not far off what they were predicted for both the boys. Lachlan at 35wks 1 day they predicted 4lb 9oz. I am 35wks
5 days today. So pretty much the same, so I am expecting a 6lb something to be
born.



Can anyone
offer and insight into this  is it an indicator that IUGR may be
diagnosed again?



Best Regards,



Kelly Zantey

[ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph

2006-10-06 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









One of the women on my site has just found out she has both
of these things. She said she has googled for hours and cant find
anything on Staph specifically. Can someone pass on some knowledge on what this
is going to mean? I have never heard of someone having both before. Shes
almost 38wks



Best Regards,



Kelly Zantey

Creator,BellyBelly.com.au

Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby

BellyBelly Birth Support

RE: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph

2006-10-06 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Thanks everyone for your replies, she is
also wondering how she could have gotten it?





Best Regards,



Kelly Zantey











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006
11:22 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and
Staph







Yes Melissa - GBS is a different organism from Staph.





Not so long ago we used to 'anti-staph' the babies
post first bath and day 3 using chlorhexidine cream, it apparently no longer is
required as the 'staph contamination' is not harmful.





Group B Strep is treated by AB's in labour and
screening/monitoring babies X48 hours, very few are colonised, and few of these
become sick but those that do can be very sick indeed





Sue











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From: Melissa
Singer 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent:
Friday, October 06, 2006 6:53 PM





Subject:
Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph











I thought group b strep and staph aureaus are
different organisms? Staph infections on vaginal swab require no
treatment or preventative abs in labour. Staph seems to have no effects
on baby (that they haven't found out yet!) and it is a normal colonisation of
the skin only becoming a issue in the sick, and immunocompromised. I not
100% sure and am getting ready for work so no time to look it up yet. 











(p.s sharon,
where i work we use benzpennicillin 1.2grams then 600mg every four hours.)











Regards Melissa







- Original Message - 





From: sharon






To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent:
Friday, October 06, 2006 6:35 PM





Subject:
RE: [ozmidwifery] GBS and Staph









Thats right gbs is
group b streph which is found on vaginal swab at 36 weeks treated with
benzpennicillin during labour every 4 hours commencing with a loading dose of 3
gms then 1.2 gm every four hours while in active labour.

Regards sharon











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Ceri  Katrina
Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 7:32
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] GBS and
Staph





Isn't GBS a
staph infection??? Been awhile since I was at work, relishing in the time off
work with little munchkin who is now 3 and bit months old.

katrina

On 06/10/2006, at 7:06 PM, Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote:

One of the women on my site has just
found out she has both of these things. She said she has googled for hours and
cant find anything on Staph specifically. Can someone pass on some
knowledge on what this is going to mean? I have never heard of someone having
both before. Shes almost 38wks

Best Regards,

Kelly
Zantey
Creator,BellyBelly.com.au
Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby
BellyBelly Birth Support






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RE: [ozmidwifery] DO SOMETHING!

2006-10-03 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

The Conference isn't for the women Lisa, its for those who work in the birth
 post-natal services industries - of course the others wont be interested!
I am not saying anyone is doing a crap or insufficient job - we're all
working so hard! And good on all of you down there educating women in the
way you are. It's a big job. 

Once we have the opportunity to learn how to more effectively lobby, write
press releases, advertise, market, network and teach (and more of us doing
it with good knowledge, on how to make it more effective) it makes less work
and less stress for everyone. Makes sense to me, getting some inside
knowledge, less energy and effort required, less stress, better result. It's
working smarter and not harder. We can learn how to do all that from those
who know or have tried and tested ways to share. Some of the less fruitful
efforts may be able to be turned into more fruitful efforts - you can work
your butt off all year but it can be wasted energy if it's not done
effectively - again not in effort value but in directed value. I guarantee
the speakers will change the way we do things and it will actually excite
people, having ideas on how they can do things without compromising their
integrity or what they believe in...

But, people have to be willing to learn something new. I can see many are
not ready for change and are very comfy where they are. Nothing I can do
about that, and I won't argue with them. However I do know I can help those
who are ready... and I have the thumbs up from people like Barb Vernon and
others within MC which means a great deal to me.

Convincing in words is harder than action, so I shall get my head down, bum
up and lets all see what happens :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:28 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] DO SOMETHING!


Kelly said
 I did want to be a midwife, but
 luckily I was drawn to doing Rhea's Birth Attendant course and I love 
 being with
 the woman the way I am. I am not ready to become a midwife, the time is 
 not
 right with the industry this way...

I'm all for shouting it from the rooftops Kelly.  I Also love the woman I am

( and the midwife I am) but as far as I'm concerned I don't work in an 
industry I have a way of life.

You have the ear of every woman that reads or writes on you site.  Go for it

tell them all about birth and see how much change you can make.  How will a 
course in lobbying the government help that.  These women don't want to hear

it.  We need to lobby and educate the  women.  We are really trying here in 
SA with the Birth matters group, Tania Smallwood and Laureen Newman's WEA 
course in birth, being visable where ever possible with our stand on birth 
options.

I don't need to become professional because I feel I already am and the 
story of the Hare and the Tortoise springs to mind.

Lisa Barrett 

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[ozmidwifery] Balwyn Choices For Childbirth (VIC)

2006-09-28 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



This is another call for those who might be interested in
assisting with any Choices for Childbirth sessions and helping with decision
making for the new Balwyn location. You dont have to be a midwife, birth
attendant or trained in any way  there are no set prerequisites apart
from wanting to help in any way you feel appropriate, even if you only feel it
would be greeting people as they arrive, ticking them off the list or helping
with coffee. Perhaps you are looking at another way to get more involved in the
birth industry - this presents a great opportunity to learn and make a
difference at the same time!



I am scheduling a meeting NEXT week so that we can all meet
and have a catch up, getting up to date with whats happening and start
delegating any small tasks. If you are interested, please let me know ASAP. The
meeting will be in Camberwell. Thank-you! 

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Believe what you want Felicity and nice
that you are defending your friend, but the fact is for the last week, I have
had nothing but emails of support and encouragement in private (they think the
conference is a brilliant idea) and this is the first negative response I have
had. I must admit I expected more because people hate change generally and hate
their thoughts and beliefs being challenged. So many have told me that I have
said exactly what they have wanted to for such a very long time, but have been
afraid to. So my thoughts arent at all alone in company  I just
wish they would speak up but obviously there is fear there for some reason or
the other. Do you have any better ideas that you honestly think will work to
change things? Joyous Birth is not for everyone, I know several amongst us who
left as they felt attacked and intimidated as they didnt fit the JB mould
(is that a good way to change and help?) and of course nor is my own site for
everyone either  people will be attracted to different things, I choose
to try and help change peoples beliefs and not spend all my time in a forum
of like-minded people  this means going outside your comfort zone. As
Henci Goer so bluntly opened with at the last homebirth conference, Were
losing. Im not saying to market the whole thing to look cheap
but to make it more appealing. I mean for goodness sakes, you have Obs hiring
midwives to do their ante-natal appointments now  how much worse does it
have to get? Otherwise, carry on and those who do want to do things
differently in an attempt to try something which might possibly work, will. 



(Ive removed my signature especially for you Felicity
to prove to you that I am not in it for the advertising). 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stephen  Felicity
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006
1:39 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article







I'm glad you're having such an awakening and
feeling so motivated, Kelly; it's something many of us felt and began to act on
a long time ago - welcome to the club, it's populated by many decades of women
who continue to work hard to heal birth in our culture - which is a long, slow
battle. We're all pretty aware of the situation and we're all working to
the best of our own capacitys to improve it (some of us at no profit, by
finance or publicity or otherwise,to ourselves). Some of your suggestions
have been really worthwhile and quite exciting,but I have to admit that
I'm losing my enthusiasm for them amid the sea of self promotional rhetoric
that accompanies them - OzMid is not a promotional tool for BellyBelly and some
posts on this list related to it have felt like advertising Spam in my
InBox. I have to say I find your assumptions about Janet Fraserin
particular to beoffensive. Do you actually know the totality
ofwhat Janet does in her professional and personal capacity, or the
widespread and rapidly growing effect Joyous Birth is having Australia wide,
both in the mainstream and otherwise? It's nothing like one woman espousing her
own views to the converted, and how utterly rude to dismiss the lifework of one
of your sisters as being such. Every contribution counts and whilst I
think I understand the point you're trying to make about reaching the
mainstream, it's dangerous to begin tempering our message to better enable us
to begin marketing it to the majority gratuitously - women and
babies are not a market and our integrity is not for sale. I fear the
overstepping of that invisible line that would transform us into nothing too
different from the Obs and Hospys - big business, marketed to the masses (for
instance, in my personal experience, your forum/site needs to compromise a lot
in order to appeal to the larger membership you enjoy; this results in some
less than optimal advertising and advice, and the sad loss of some wonderful
contributions and items. Do the ends justify the means? That's a decision
we each need to make, and your contribution is still significant, though not
necessarily in the form I would personally choose for myself). What is
the point of a message reaching more people if the message has had to be
diluted and perhaps changed in order to get there? Nothing is simple and
these aspects need to be considered. It is the various voices of all of
us that shed light on darker areas of the topic; some more straightforward and
uncompromising contributions may seem difficult to hear but they're usually the
most valuable and evidence-based in my experience, and I enjoy them thoroughly.











- Original Message
- 

















I dont think this got through last
night



Best Regards,

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Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-21 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









And the whole
mindset of having a rest with your other kids somewhere else escapes me. Fark
yucko.

 I wouldnt want to be away
from my kids, but its because the problem lies far deeper than a matter
of resting up at a hotel. Its because far too many mothers do not have
support, community and husbands working longer hours every week. They are
desperate for a break, nurturing etc and they are not getting it. Need to work
on the root cause of this not the symptoms. Big ask.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006
6:21 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article







Frankly it appals me that people think it's ok for health funds
to cover this crap that should be a luxury we pay for ourselves. What about
some equity of health care in this country? How about health funds pay for
proper midwifery not bloody hotels.I think it's nauseating. Maybe if only
SICK women, as opposed to BIRTHING women,were in hospital beds we
wouldn't have a perceived need for luxury frigging hotels as a back up. And the
whole mindset of having a rest with your other kids somewhere else escapes me.
Fark yucko.





J







- Original
Message - 





From: Kelly @ BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday,
September 21, 2006 12:20 PM





Subject: RE:
[ozmidwifery] FYI news article









I posted the article on my forums, here is
what women think of the idea  be it what you agree with or not 
this is what THEY think so maybe we can get some ideas or learn something from
this: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=439579



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006
8:27 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article
Importance: High





The Caroline flint you have contacted is a
politician, not the midwife. Try putting midwife in front of the google
search. It is confusing to have two high profile people with the same
name. MM











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Vedrana Valcic
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
6:11 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article





Where can I find out more about her
marketing strategies? Midwives in Croatia would certainly appreciate
info about effective marketing strategies. I found this site: http://www.carolineflint.co.uk/news/news.htm,
but I dont know if there is something more detailed.

Vedrana











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, September 20,
2006 11:11 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article





The woman who best markets midwifery is
Caroline Flint in the UK.
We should copy her marketing strategies. MM











Kelly says..If we want women to accept and
value the midwife then it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy
and jazzed up! Not just a choice being two sides of the fence with opposing
views as it is now. And they want to know what it will do for THEM and what
THEY will get out of it. At the moment there are very many women who do not see
birth as something that needs to be in the home or is safe in home 
thats just a fact which we have to work on.

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-21 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I think you couldnt be more on the
right track Michelle. Its all a symptom of a major problem which is
going to take something big to fix, and for those who are fortunate to have
that, to understand.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michelle Windsor
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006
5:23 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article







I could be on the wrong track here. but perhaps at the bottom of
all this is somewomen's desire (maybe subconsciously) for something
special (the 5 star hotel)to acknowledge what an amazing person she is to
be a mother and to have birthed a baby.Unlike some other cultures, our
society as a whole doesn't seem to value mothers very highly. What
does she do?Oh she just had kids.. Even women
themselves often identify themselves as 'just a mum' or 'just a housewife'.











 Maybe if women were acknowledged and celebrated in other ways
for the wonderful work they do in birthing and mothering and provided with
excellent support, staying in a 5 star hotel wouldn't be so appealing.











Cheers





Michelle

Kelly @
BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







I posted the article on my forums, here is what women think of the
idea  be it what you agree with or not  this is what THEY think
so maybe we can get some ideas or learn something from this: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=439579







Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006
8:27 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article
Importance: High













The Caroline flint you have contacted is a politician, not the
midwife. Try putting midwife in front of the google search. It is
confusing to have two high profile people with the same name. MM



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Vedrana Valcic
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
6:11 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article













Where can I find out more about her marketing strategies? Midwives
in Croatia
would certainly appreciate info about effective marketing strategies. I found
this site: http://www.carolineflint.co.uk/news/news.htm,
but I dont know if there is something more detailed.





Vedrana



















From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, September 20,
2006 11:11 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article













The woman who best markets midwifery is Caroline Flint in the UK.
We should copy her marketing strategies. MM















Kelly says..If we want women to accept and value the midwife then
it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy and jazzed up! Not just a
choice being two sides of the fence with opposing views as it is now. And they
want to know what it will do for THEM and what THEY will get out of it. At the
moment there are very many women who do not see birth as something that needs
to be in the home or is safe in home  thats just a fact which we
have to work on.







 







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RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-20 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article








Id be up for that and I am sure
Pinky would think its a brilliant idea too J



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Justine Caines
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
11:12 PM
To: OzMid List
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article





Hi Kelly

I would really like to talk with you and perhaps Pinky off list to nut out some
strategies on mainstreaming 1-2-1 mid options and making our
goals palatable out there. I know you and Pinky have
contact with some big players and I have often thought we need to maximise ay
exposure (not saying you dont just would like to natter about it a
bit!).

Kind regards

Justine

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-20 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I posted the article on my forums, here is
what women think of the idea  be it what you agree with or not 
this is what THEY think so maybe we can get some ideas or learn something from
this: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=439579



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006
8:27 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article
Importance: High





The Caroline flint you have contacted is a
politician, not the midwife. Try putting midwife in front of the google
search. It is confusing to have two high profile people with the same
name. MM











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Vedrana Valcic
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
6:11 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article





Where can I find out more about her
marketing strategies? Midwives in Croatia would certainly appreciate
info about effective marketing strategies. I found this site: http://www.carolineflint.co.uk/news/news.htm,
but I dont know if there is something more detailed.

Vedrana











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, September 20,
2006 11:11 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article





The woman who best markets midwifery is
Caroline Flint in the UK.
We should copy her marketing strategies. MM











Kelly says..If we want women to accept and
value the midwife then it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy
and jazzed up! Not just a choice being two sides of the fence with opposing
views as it is now. And they want to know what it will do for THEM and what
THEY will get out of it. At the moment there are very many women who do not see
birth as something that needs to be in the home or is safe in home 
thats just a fact which we have to work on.

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-19 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Title: FYI news article








To try and extract any good of this
though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for normal
vaginal births - as per the article, only those who do will be allowed
to use the program.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Megan  Larry
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
1:21 PM
To: ozmidwifery
Subject: [ozmidwifery] FYI news
article





Bliss at the 5-star maternity hotel 
MICHAEL OWEN 
September 19, 2006 12:15am 
Article from: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp


THE state's first maternity ward in a luxury hotel will open
early next month. 
The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford Private
 Hospital to provide up to
eight deluxe-plus rooms for new mothers recovering from childbirth.


Called
Baby Bliss, the maternity hotel service program will start from
October 3, with final Health Department approval expected within the next week.


Ashford
 Hospital and the Hilton
say public interest in the scheme has been amazing since it was
first floated in July., 

The
program, already in operation in two private hospitals in Melbourne, aims to cut costs and free up
hospital beds. It has won the backing of private health fund Mutual Community
and national mother advocacy group Mother Inc. 

Midwives
will stay in a wing of the Hilton dedicated to new mums and provide
around-the-clock care and advice, while obstetricians will continue to oversee
care during hotel stays. Partners and siblings of new mums will be able to stay
at the hotel free. Alan Lane,
chief executive of hospital operations for the Adelaide Community Healthcare
Alliance, which owns Ashford
 Hospital, said the option
would only be available to women who had a normal vaginal delivery at the
hospital. 

Mother
and baby would be transferred to the Hilton two days after giving birth. 
Mother and baby remain patients of Ashford Hospital
and the responsibility of its medical and nursing teams, Mr Lane said. 

The
option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the obstetrics cover
provided by the patient's private health fund. 

Insurance
broker Jenny Lynch, 33, is due to give birth to her first child in February.
I really like the idea of not being in that sterile hospital environment
after I've had my baby - a luxury hotel room and a bit of pampering sounds like
a pretty good way to relax after childbirth, Ms Lynch said yesterday.

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-19 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Exactly Lisa, its business! Its
all about the dollars for them. But for the families, the idea of five star
treatment after birth is very, very appealing. Its clever marketing isnt
it? As well as outsourcing for what they dont have  room. 

You say you cant see what the
attraction is to a five star hotel, but let me tell you, 95% of women are not
attracted to being at home! We can see the beauty of it, but society cant
in this present time. We have confidence and they do not. At the moment, women
are highly valuing being in a glamourous hotel being waited on hand and foot,
dinners cooked, cozy accommodation - whereas if they go home, they have to do
it all for themselves or maybe if they are lucky their partner will - especially
if you were a mum like myself and family support was not available  I was
alone, isolated and had a very bad time ended up on ADs. I would have jumped
at the opportunity to go to a hotel at the time. They feel special and pampered
instead of having to go home, on their own with no support because they dont
know otherwise and they dont feel safe at home. Having a midwife to come
and check on them at home after birth really does not even closely compare for
many, many women when they can get this in a hotel as well as have a great time.


If we want women to accept and value the midwife
then it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy and jazzed up! Not
just a choice being two sides of the fence with opposing views as it is now.
And they want to know what it will do for THEM and what THEY will get out of it.
At the moment there are very many women who do not see birth as something that
needs to be in the home or is safe in home  thats just a fact
which we have to work on.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
12:54 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article







Hi, They
could have helped the women much more by providing midwifery care at
home. They do have a one off visit (because the hospital can access the
fund from the insurance for it) but sending a midwife into the womens home
after discharge to check up on them is more productive and cheaper than this
bizarre system. There is to be one midwife to 8 women which isn't exactly
great care and if they need midwifery imput they will not be eligible for
transfer there in the first place. Every woman has a private room and all
dads can stay overnight at the Ashford hospital so it's not a problem of
sharing with others that have just birthed.





I just can't see
anyadvantage ( excluding souroundings and mini bar ( as mentioned in the
radio broadcast) ) for a birthing woman and her family to go to a hotel instead
of going to her own home.











The biggest
benefactor of this is the private hospital and the insurance
company. However it's dressed it's not for the benefit of the woman
it's just business.





Lisa











- Original
Message - 







From: Grant and Louise McLeod 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Wednesday,
September 20, 2006 10:59 AM





Subject: RE:
[ozmidwifery] FYI news article










 
  
  
  This is my first
  post for a long time so don't eat me alive!
  
  
  I agree with
  Kelly as the woman has to have a nvbit may help our cause to decrease
  LSCS and IOL?
  
  
  Also - as much as
  we would like all women to have 1-2-1 midwifery care ( sheesh where I work we
  have no ante natal clinic, no midwifery input till labour and the GP's doing
  care don't have dip OB- another story another time), it isn't happening now
  and these women have been scared into PHI by the gov't (and other
  interest groups) and are using it. All our lobbying isn't going to help this
  woman now , it will help others down the track. 
  
  
  Yes home would be
  better, and 'get on with it', but they would've stayed another few nights in
  hospital anyway, maybe transferring to hotel - with partner and rest of
  family is a compromise, you know - get fed/don't have to clean,and
  lactation and parentcraft guidance with partner there to help too. Isn't
  having dad there more like the real world than a hospital room without him
  but with (insert number!)other mums and bubs?
  
  
  just my thoughts
  
  
  
  
  
  Louise 
  
  
  rural NSW
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ---Original
  Message---
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  
  
  Date: 09/19/06 21:32:02
  
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  
  
  Subject: RE:
  [ozmidwifery] FYI news article
  
  
  
  
  
  
  To try and extract any good of this
  though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for normal
  vaginal births - as per the article,

[ozmidwifery] Trainee Doula / midwife near Baccus Marsh

2006-09-18 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









One of the women on my forums is due in March and will be birthing
at the RWH. She is in Baccus Marsh and her name is Danni. If you know of a
Trainee Doula please forward on her details: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



She may even be open to a midwife so feel free to contact
her if you are looking for a follow through.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Midwife Directory Cancelled...

2006-09-17 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



Epic coming up! Just a quick email to let you all know that
I am no longer doing the Australian midwife directory  thanks to all
those who sent in their information. I have come up with several problems: disagreement,
very limited response and even an email from some rude person who said that I
participate on the list to get more people to come to my website, and she was disagreeing
with the idea of having certain advertisers on my site who sell books when I
should be supporting the bookshop associated with this list and so on. This does
not bother me but reaffirmed so many things to me.



I invested $2000 to attend a brilliant (huge understatement!)
business, mind and money conference this Thursday-Sunday and I would have paid
double for what I got out of it. It had some of the best speakers/professionals
in the world on everything from marketing to business  they are all self-made
millionaires sharing their secrets. Also last week, I have had a one-on-one mentoring
session for a few hours with the amazing Australian business womens
network creator who gave me some great advice, including insight of the process
of lobbying from pharmaceutical companies to the government to accept the new
cervical cancer vaccine into the PBS (?), how it was done and from what
viewpoint to, seal the deal when initial lobbying was not working.




From these two sources, I have come to realise that there
are too many deep-seated paradigms, particularly in response to what I am
trying to do (that I am not going to be able to change). I should be focusing
my energy on what I do, changing my own paradigms and helping me to grow 
who of us has the time with children, work etc.? We have to all optimise our
time and work smarter, not harder. At the end of the day, we all run businesses
of some form, and if we all keep preaching to the converted or staying in our comfortable
paradigm-based ways, then with this time-consuming, hard work so many of us/you
do with lobbying and fighting for maternity services  it will just go on
forever. Well all just be seen as annoying poodles nipping at the ankles
of politicians, the media or other leaders everytime there is a problem, when
there is a better way to do things that needs to be tapped into and effectively
utilised. Its such a waste of precious time and energy and given how
many years this has been going on for some issues  its obviously
not working! This is not to say the hard work everyone has done is useless or
unskilled, this is not criticism on anyones part and I am not saying
anyone is better than the other - I sincerely hope this is seen as constructive
advice as I learnt this from some very highly respected people. I am simply
saying that I believe there is a better way to do this  we can make
change happen but first we must change ourselves. 



I will now focus on solely promoting the Doula and I believe
for the reasons I mentioned above, the Doula will continue to grow at a fast
rate, and the private midwife will take lots more time to be seen as a mainstream
option. Because there are many passionate people out there willing to promote
the Doula in so many forms and places, within their comfort zone and more
importantly, outside. You see ads about Doulas everywhere, there are real-life Doula
networking groups across Australia
where many women turn up very regularly, passionate and willing to do what they
need and share advice and information as a whole. They are asked their opinion
on changes that need to be made, what could be done better, what is great about
it They get involved in activities all the time and get themselves out
there, not caring if they end up surrounded by a group of pro-caesarean women
or whatever  because she sees the opportunity. I am not saying this is
the case for all midwives, but I have seen so many eager Doulas doing whatever
it takes to get out there!!! I also know some midwives dont want to do
hospital birth. But wont doing that show the true value of a private midwife to
those less informed when she gets a great birth? Isnt this a prime
opportunity to get your target market referring others to you? Just a thought.



I know that I will no doubt come up with opposition and criticism
for what I am doing/saying, this is something they discussed at the conference 
those that do things differently in their industries will come up against all
this criticism, labels and judgement, but this no longer bothers me at all. I
have tried my best, and now I need to do my own thing until the day something
different occurs from within where I can help, where work is a joint effort and
in an effective way  my door is always open. The mainstream generally do
not know who the MC / Private Midwife is and what they do. They need to know
this, it is essential for your growth! Ive even suggested a few
promotional activities in the past and its been rejected, where I could
help with my site give more exposure to the MC. I do know there is a

[ozmidwifery] Remedia execs to be tried for allegedly causing infants' death

2006-09-10 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Last update -
18:47 10/09/2006 
Remedia execs to be tried for allegedly causing infants' death 

By Yuval Yoaz, Haaretz Correspondent 

Three of the former heads of the baby formula producer Remedia will be tried
for allegedly causing the death of infants who were fed a non-dairy milk
substitute sold by the company in 2003, prosecutors said on Sunday. 

After three years of investigations, the prosecution has decided to indict
eight people involved in the affair - three of the former heads of the company
and five Health Ministry officials. 

The former Remedia executives who will be tried are former Remedia CEO Gideon
Landsberger, former directing manager Moshe Miller and Frederick Block, head of
research and development for the firm. 

The three will be charged with causing death through negligence, as well as
negligent sabotage, misleading the public, obstruction of justice, spreading
disease, fraud and conspiracy. 

A draft of the indictment charges that the essential B1 vitamin was not
included in the mixture of vitamins added to the formula. But the Remedia
company did not inform the public of the error, and printed labels that stated
that the formula included more vitamins than it actually did. 

According to the charges, several babies who were fed the formula were
hospitalized with severe damage to their nervous system. 

After being given B1 supplements, some of the infants showed improvement, but
others sustained irreparable damage to their systems and two of the children
did not survive. Another baby also died after the incident, but this child's
death was not included in the charge sheet. 

Seventeen families have sued the German company Humana that manufactures the
formula for compensation after the affair. Remedia executives have said in
response to the proposed charge sheet that the prosecution is ignoring Humana's
responsibility for the affair, as well as that of the Health Ministry. 

Five Health Ministry officials will also be charged as part of the indictment
for actions that could result in spreading disease, the punishment for which
could come to three years in prison. Among those charged is the head of
ministry's national food service. 

According to the charge sheet, the ministry officials did not verify that the
formula sent from Germany
contained the ingredients listed on the labels



Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Don't forget your listing in the Nappy Bag Book!!!

2006-09-01 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dont forget to include your Midwifery / Doula
Business in the Nappy Bag Book for next year  its a FREE listing
in a nationally distributed book and the deadline is just 20 days away! http://www.nappybag.com.au/freelist.php
- I hope we can see lots of Midwives and Doulas listed this year 
well need it!!! Also on the topic of free listings, if you are a Doula
or Birth Attendant, make sure you are listed in the BellyBelly Birth Attendant
/ Doula Directory too: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-attendant-locator

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Aus-wide MIPP Directory

2006-09-01 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



As you probably know, I have an Australia-wide Doula Directory
on BellyBelly, which alone is receiving around 400 pageviews a week and growing
strong. So I have decided to take things a step further and create a Private
Midwife Directory, something I have spoken of doing before (but just didnt
get a response). So I am now being proactive and I think if were going
to get the world even a little bit more used to midwives as primary carers as
once was the case, we need to be a bit more in their faces, especially on mainstream
sites without having to leave to go to other sites  so they see it all
as the mainstream. 



I am going to make it a little more comprehensive so the
readers feel more at ease than just seeing names and numbers on a list, which
often those who have already made a decision to have a Private Midwife would
do. Those who are contemplating the idea I believe would be more inclined to
consider it if there was more information to read about that person. It will be
an easily accessible list, which is amongst all the other mainstream
type of articles and it will have its own place too. I want them to consider
this as a serious option.



I always think to myself that for so many of those that come
to BellyBelly as the very first site on conception to parenthood, then it can
be a very impressionable thing  what they see they believe, sad but true.
But good in this case, because I want to give them a great start. If they see
this information with details of midwives that they can contact at the click of
a button after reading about them, I think its going to help the
exposure of the profession and it will be seen as a more usual choice
(thats my theory anyway). I have seen so many mainstream
women on BellyBelly finally getting demanding with their birth choices, telling
their Obstetricians things like they ARE going to have a VBAC and they ARE
going to leave to cord pulsating and decide to use Doulas, and slowly,
considering things like waterbirth at home. Its not fair that they have
to be demanding  why cant it just be a beautiful experience with
a midwife! J



So if you would like to be in my private midwife directory,
please send back the following details and I will get this going asap. Thanks
in advance  I am just trying to help the cause that I so strongly
believe in J



Name:

Location: (suburb)

Areas Serviced: 

Training / Other Qualifications:

Experience: 

Specialities: (e.g. if you have a special interest or extra
experience e.g. VBAC, breech, breastfeeding support)

Birth Philosophy:

Contact Number:

Email Address:



The above is free, and ill also extend my offer which
I have for the Doula Directory  I can create a whole web page with a
unique URL that you can choose and utilize it for promotional or marketing
purposes, as well as something for the website visitors to read - up to 1,500
words and two images - for $75 a year. This is great if you dont have a
website or if you want to the viewers to read more about you. Lets put loves
faces and words to names so women can feel more of an understanding and
connection to who these Private Midwives are and ways in which
they can help women to have a more satisfying and empowered birth. i.e. my
profile is http://www.bellybelly.com.au/kelly-zantey
if you want to get an idea of what I mean  I get more enquires than I
can handle, often not women already part of my site, so it does work having
pictures and extra words to read J I am sure some
will probably object in some way to all or part of this, but I really do
believe more needs to be done to make a big change

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Jenni Doherty from HBA just called...

2006-08-31 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









 and effectively of now the pilot program is no
longer. Anyone currently corresponding with her will have their birth honoured
but no more women will be accepted until a formal business decision has been
made. She said the pilot program has been a huge success, however now its
time for the business to make a decision. Jenni acknowledged the great meeting
she had with two midwives this week to put the case forward, but said the
bottom line is that midwives dont have insurance. She is going to fight
for it and believes that they need to do it, but I just get a really bad
feeling. Maybe its just me, but she was very hesitant anyway, I
have been asked to remove HBAs details off my site and she will let me
know asap if I can put it back up or not. *sigh*
Lots of fingers, toes and everything crossed here for women of Australia 
lets hope they make a good business decision and choose to make this a
permanent part of their policy. Well done to everyone involved in working with
HBA and putting their case forward. I think now is the time to send in your
testimonials if you have had your birth covered with them  they said
that might be a next step but lets think a step ahead. If you know anyone who
has had their birth covered by HBA, please send in something praising their
efforts and all that groveling. J 

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

2006-08-31 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Me too please J I promise not to look
LOL J





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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Päivi Laukkanen
Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006
8:58 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal
examinations







I would love a picture as well =)











Päivi







- Original Message - 





From: Mike  Lindsay
Kennedy 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Friday, September
01, 2006 1:44 AM





Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
Vaginal examinations









Hi would also like your
photo
Linz



On 8/30/06, Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Two words:
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I have a great photo of mine (thanks for pointing it out, Mary!) 

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On 30/08/2006, at 9:31 PM, Sally @ home wrote:

 Just to add to this...
 There was an extremely heated discussion at a meeting with docs and
 midwives where I work about how doing a VE is the only way to 
 ascertain progress in the normal labour of uncompromised healthy
 women. The midwives now have to come up with evidence showing that
 doing a VE within 1- 4 hours of admission to hospital (then 4-6
 hourly thereafter) is not necessary as we are able to assess
 progress in different ways (all of which have been poo-pooed by the
 medicos)...so...am needing the help of all you wonderfully wise
 women out there. 

 Thanks in advance.

 Sally
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 Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations


 Was wondering what guidelines others worked with regarding when to 
 do vaginal examinations...specifically in the hospital setting.
 And what evidence they base their practice on.

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RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

2006-08-31 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









A I thought it was a bit weird how
they worded it they added to my comments . and a doctor if
needed - why on earth would I say that! Its a lot to have
made a mistake over so I have no doubt you are right. Very frustrating when you
are trying to get across a positive, confident image of birth.



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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Carol Fallows
Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006
10:44 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need
to clarify myself!! Coles Baby







Hi Kelly,





If I have answered this already please ignore.





I was the editor of Coles Baby magazine for 4 years, from
its beginning. I would not blame the journalist's hearing. It is far more
likely that the copy was edited to doctor from doula as the magazine content is
closely monitored by the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne and very much toes the orthodox
line - the idea of a doula and no doctor being presentis unlikely to be
acceptable.





Best wishes,





Carol Fallows







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Tuesday, August
29, 2006 2:19 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] I
need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby









In the Coles Baby mag this edition I was interviewed along
with Lisa Chalmers from Australian Doulas. I do not have my copy yet but I have
been told I said I would be having a home waterbirth next time in the company
of a doctor!!! I actually told the journo a private midwife and DOULA 
one can only assume she thought I said doctor instead of Doula  kinda
sounds the same. Always the way with words in print.

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[ozmidwifery] RWH - Pain Relief Comment on Website

2006-08-30 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I found this on the RWH website  in the section about
the cons of epidurals:



6. Some people believe that epidurals may
increase the duration of labour, or increase the likelihood of needing forceps
or a Caesarean section. The evidence for or against this belief is very
controversial. It is almost impossible to do unbiased studies to confirm or
deny this belief. Women who have excessive pain and ask for an epidural may be
the ones with bigger babies or smaller pelvises and thus be more likely to need
forceps or a Caesarean section anyway. In addition, even if labour is
prolonged, is it better to have a 9 hour labour in agony, or a 13 hour labour
in relative comfort (as long as the baby and mother are monitored and both are
well)? I would suspect the latter.



In conclusion I think it is important to stress that
no-one can predict how they will feel during labour, and some labours are far
more painful than others. Women who ask for pain relief during labour should
not be made to feel guilty or inadequate, as if they have failed, but rather
reassured and given the pain relief they require. The attitude of '...no,
you'll be fine...let's hold of for a few more hours and see how you go...' is
no longer appropriate unless the baby is about to pop out any second.



Eck. Love their choice of wording too.



http://www.rwh.org.au/rwhanaes/whatis.cfm?doc_id=2392

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[ozmidwifery] RE: RWH - Pain Relief Comment on Website

2006-08-30 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Gosh it gets worse



The
options available for pain relief during labour have increased dramatically
since that time but it has only been in the second half of this century that
they have been made readily available for women. The reality is that about 2 thirds
of normal, healthy pregnant women suffer severe or intolerable pain during
labour, and only about 2% of women are fortunate enough to describe little or
no discomfort. However, despite this many women are still made to feel guilty
or inadequate if they ask for pain relief, and if they manage to achieve
delivery without any form of pain relief, they receive some mythical 'badge of
honour'. In no other situation would anyone deliberately allow someone to
suffer so severely for so long without attempting to relieve their pain. It is,
of course, always the expectant mother's decision as to whether she will have
anything during labour, but this can only be done in an informed fashion if she
has been told her options and the pros and cons of each before she goes into labour.





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Kelly Zantey
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From: Kelly @
BellyBelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006
9:44 PM
To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au'
Subject: RWH - Pain Relief Comment
on Website





I found this on the RWH website  in the section about
the cons of epidurals:



6. Some people believe that epidurals may increase
the duration of labour, or increase the likelihood of needing forceps or a
Caesarean section. The evidence for or against this belief is very
controversial. It is almost impossible to do unbiased studies to confirm or
deny this belief. Women who have excessive pain and ask for an epidural may be
the ones with bigger babies or smaller pelvises and thus be more likely to need
forceps or a Caesarean section anyway. In addition, even if labour is
prolonged, is it better to have a 9 hour labour in agony, or a 13 hour labour
in relative comfort (as long as the baby and mother are monitored and both are
well)? I would suspect the latter.



In conclusion I think it is important to stress that
no-one can predict how they will feel during labour, and some labours are far
more painful than others. Women who ask for pain relief during labour should
not be made to feel guilty or inadequate, as if they have failed, but rather
reassured and given the pain relief they require. The attitude of '...no,
you'll be fine...let's hold of for a few more hours and see how you go...' is
no longer appropriate unless the baby is about to pop out any second.



Eck. Love their choice of wording too.



http://www.rwh.org.au/rwhanaes/whatis.cfm?doc_id=2392

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Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
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[ozmidwifery] Measles question

2006-08-28 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Sorry, off topic but need some advice asap
-



A babysitter is coming for half the day
tomorrow but just called and said the child she looked after today looks like
it *may* have measles. Should I
cancel her coming tomorrow or would it be ok? My kids are vaccinated. Thanks in advance.

Best
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Measles question

2006-08-28 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









LOL feel free J I just read that even if
you are immune to it you can still carry it, so I was moreso worried about
those my children spend time with. 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Megan  Larry
Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 6:03
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Measles
question





Can I be a smarty pants and ask if your
childen are vaccinated why are you worried?



Many children's illness' can have a red
rash associated with it, makes it very hard to really know what they have,
unless a blood test is done to confirm.



Of course even vaccination isn't 100%
effective, so if you are absolutely concerned, cancel.



Its harder to decide when you have been
given a choice, we come in contact with all sorts of things when out and about
all the time and have no idea.



Good luck 



Megan









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 5:24
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Measles
question

Sorry, off topic but need some advice asap
-



A babysitter is coming for half the day
tomorrow but just called and said the child she looked after today looks like
it *may* have measles. Should I
cancel her coming tomorrow or would it be ok? My kids are vaccinated. Thanks in advance.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
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[ozmidwifery] WA opens a brestmilk bank for premmie babies

2006-08-28 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









THE push to
open a human milk bank in Sydney
is gaining momentum.
Specialists in Perth
are spearheading an Australia-wide movement to reintroduce milk banks after the
emergence of AIDS in the early 1980s forced them to close.

Perth's King
Edward Memorial Hospital For Women will start operating a milk bank at the end
of this month and another bank is preparing to open on the Gold Coast.

Sydney neonatologist Howard Chilton said Australia and
NSW were long overdue for a human milk bank.

It's not really been on the radar but Perth is putting it on the radar, Dr
Chilton said. It has potential to save hospitals money because it lowers the
incidence of certain diseases.

Premature babies, whose mothers are unable to produce enough milk, will be the
main benefactors of the milk banks.

Studies have shown human milk is superior to formula and can improve a
premature baby's long-term mental and physical health.

Despite the spread of AIDS, human milk banks have continued to thrive across
Europe and the US.

Dr Chilton, who has set up a company to provide the pasteurisers needed to
purify the human milk, said Sydney
hospitals had expressed interest in buying the $60,000 machines.

Biomedical scientist Professor Peter Hartmann, one of the specialists behind
the Perth milk
bank, said production of milk will start off slowly.

We want to make sure we've got every step working properly, he
said.
For mothers to be eligible to donate milk, they must pass a screening process.



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[ozmidwifery] Contact details for Nic Edmonstone?

2006-08-26 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Does anyone know how I can contact Nic Edmonstone? Thanks in advance!

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[ozmidwifery] Follow-up on homebirth stories

2006-08-25 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



Thank-you for the flood of homebirth / natural birth stories
that were sent in for consideration to be published in next years nappy bag
book. They have the huge task of reading them all now and selecting a few for
publication, so I wont know just yet who gets selected but if I find out any
info I will let you know.



I also wanted to ask if any of you were happy to have your
birth stories on BellyBelly (with or without photos) as I have a collection of
lovely birth stories but many of them have a great deal of intervention - I
would love some inspiring home and natural births too. Each story has
its own unique URL so you can even keep the link in your favourites page
and use that to share with friends or family etc.



Unfortunately I have deleted all your emails for privacy
reasons so if you would like to have your story published, please resend it to
me at this address and I will be very happy to post them. Please do forward
this onto your networks and groups as I would love a huge collection of your
birth stories to inspire the masses. :)

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Kelly Zantey
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Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
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[ozmidwifery] Thought of the Day

2006-08-24 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









This so reminds me of birthing in hospital (and supporting
those birthing!) that I had to share it.



You have to find something that you
love enough to be able to take risks, jump over the hurdles and break through
the brick walls that are always going to be placed in front of you. If you
don't have that kind of feeling for what it is you are doing, you'll stop at
the first giant hurdle. -- George Lucas, Film Producer

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

http://www.bellybelly.com.au/articles/conception/private-health-funds-coveri
ng-midwifery-and-homebirth

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 8:17 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

I think MC have done a bit of a roundup of this...not sure where to look but
their website would be a good place to start.

Tania



At 7:06 PM +1000 13/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone assist with their knowledge of private health funds ?
Which health fund covers the best for midwifery care - I have a lady
looking at care for her next pregnancy having a history of 3 lscs after 2
vaginal births - and we have sought the support of
an obstetrician - thus the attempt to look at joining a health fund prior
to conception ?
Any help appreciated
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Gina Ford gagging uk discussion list

2006-08-07 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Oh Debbie I am sorry to hear that L This is what many baby sleep experts are
resorting to at the moment to protect their names and $$$ - not good.





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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Debbie Slater
Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 9:48
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Gina Ford
gagging uk
discussion list





Apparently GF has had her lawyers on to a UK discussion board - Mumsnet -
regarding comments made about her L







Debbie Slater

Perth, WA

[ozmidwifery] Fertility Accupuncture Melbourne?

2006-08-06 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Can someone recommend any acupuncturists in Melbourne who specialize in fertility and
assisted conception? I have heard a few women rave about an obstetric acupuncturist
(is that a word?!) in the CBD but the name eludes me



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RE: [ozmidwifery] Henci Goer's Article on GD

2006-08-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









This is one angry mums reply  any tips
I can offer back? 



I am sorry
but this article is very short sighted and misinformed. It totally ignores the
symptomatic effects of any level of hyperglycaemia to the mother and the
subsequent physical effects on bodily functioning. Regardless of what is
happening to the baby here, there is also a mother involved who I am sure would
like to maintain normal organ and metabolic functioning for the rest of her
pregnancy and beyond. I will come back and post more when I have calmed
down...this article has made me very angry!!



(Then in a
later post)



It is far
from an exact science Emilyespecially for us type ones who produce no
insulin of all to back us up. I agree that there should be a series of tests
done to confirm GD as you correctly point out fluctuations are normal and can just
tip you over the edge. I also don't agree with unnecessary interventions such
as induction ceaserean etc. I agree that bubs should be monitored for a time
but the changing trend is for them to monitor the baby whilst in your
care..that scenario is more a hospital protocol thing and as with most things
re-education takes time to filter through. What I don't like about this article
is that it totally ignores the mother and the effect that high sugars have
short and long term on physiological systems. It appears to be advocating no
treatment because the treatment doesn't affect outcomes...for the baby maybe,
but definitely not for the mother. Even one trimester of hyperglycaemia will
cause permanent damage to organs. It mentions a low carb diet as causing ketosis...true
maybe in some cases but extended hyperglycaemia will lead to ketoacidosis which
could kill both mother and baby in a matter of hours...which is worse? It also
doesnt mention that hyperglycaemia can cause placental breakdown and
spontaneous fetal death in utero. I couild go on but wont.

I reiterate that I agree that intervention is an old school tool that needs
revamping and in most larger hospitals this is happening...it again depends on
the education of obs and hospital policies. But I am angry because I feel that
this article, which is no more than a very biased literature review could lead
to people who have less knowledge about hyperglycaemia getting the wrong idea
that it is okay not to treat itIt is not okay to ignore high blood sugars
at any time pregnant or not...at the very least they make you  like a
puppy, drink like a fish, feel like crap, have blurry vision, no energy...Hang
on I'm just describing pregnancy...hehe..at the worst they can lead to
kidney damage, circulation problems, permanent eye damage, cardiac issues and
nerve damage..I just want people to be aware there is more to this issue
than that article presents*end rant* *off soapbox*



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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Michelle Windsor
Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 8:51
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Henci
Goer's Article on GD







I agree. There seems to be a real misconception even amongst
obstetricians that gestational diabetes has the same risks as pre-existing
diabetes. A couple of years ago I did a bit of research on it for my
masters and could find no evidence that this was so. And according to
cochrane the OGT test is not reproducible 50-70% of the time.











Cheers





Michelle

Mary Murphy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







The best way for those who disagree is to
find the definitive studies that address all of Hencis points. If is
such an important issue, those studies would be available for us all to read.
There is harm being done to mothers and babies by the definition of Gestational
diabetes. MM





















What are everyones thoughts on Henci Goers GD
article? Its caused a bit of a stir in my GD forum: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=382564
but I dont feel that I know enough about it to comment





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[ozmidwifery] 'Breast' Cover Gets Mixed Reaction

2006-08-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Oh PUH-LEASE.




 
  
  'Breast'
  Cover Gets Mixed Reaction 
  
 
 
  
  Thursday July 27, 2006 4:53pm
  
  
 
 
  
  
  
 


NEW YORK (AP) - I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of
your magazine, one person wrote. I immediately turned the magazine
face down, wrote another. Gross, said a third. These readers
weren't complaining about a sexually explicit cover, but rather one of a baby
nursing, on a wholesome parenting magazine - yet another sign that Americans
are squeamish over the sight of a nursing breast, even as breast-feeding itself
gains greater support from the government and medical community.

Babytalk is a free magazine whose readership is overwhelmingly mothers
of babies. Yet in a poll of more than 4,000 readers, a quarter of responses to
the cover were negative, calling the photo - a baby and part of a woman's
breast, in profile - inappropriate.





One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her
13-year-old son seeing it.

I shredded it, said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas,
in a telephone interview. A breast is a breast - it's a sexual thing. He
didn't need to see that.

It's the same reason that Ash, 41, who nursed all three of her
children, is cautious about breast-feeding in public - a subject of enormous
debate among women, which has even spawned a new term: lactivists,
meaning those who advocate for a woman's right to nurse wherever she needs to.

I'm totally supportive of it - I just don't like the
flashing, she says. I don't want my son or husband to accidentally
see a breast they didn't want to see.

Another mother, Kelly Wheatley, wrote Babytalk to applaud the cover,
precisely because, she says, it helps educate people that breasts are more than
sex objects. And yet Wheatley, 40, who's still nursing her 3-year-old daughter,
rarely breast-feeds in public, partly because it's more comfortable in the car,
and partly because her husband is uncomfortable with other men seeing her
breast.

Men are very visual, says Wheatley, 40, of Amarillo, Texas.
When they see a woman's breast, they see a breast - regardless of what
it's being used for.

Babytalk editor Susan Kane says the mixed response to the cover
clearly echoes the larger debate over breast-feeding in public. There's a
huge Puritanical streak in Americans, she says, and there's a
squeamishness about seeing a body part - even part of a body part.

It's not like women are whipping them out with tassels on them! she
adds. Mostly, they are trying to be discreet.

Kane says that since the August issue came out last week, the magazine has
received more than 700 letters - more than for any article in years.

Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob, wrote Lauren,
a mother of a 4-month-old.

The evidence of public discomfort isn't just anecdotal. In a survey published
in 2004 by the American Dietetic Association, less than half - 43 percent - of
3,719 respondents said women should have the right to breast-feed in public
places.

The debate rages at a time when the celebrity-mom phenomenon has made
breast-feeding perhaps more public than ever. Gwyneth Paltrow, Brooke Shields,
Kate Hudson and Kate Beckinsale are only a few of the stars who've talked
openly about their nursing experiences.

The celeb factor has even brought a measure of chic to that unsexiest of garments:
the nursing bra. Gwen Stefani can be seen on babyrazzi.com - a site with a
self-explanatory name - sporting a leopard-print version from lingerie line
Agent Provocateur. And none other than Angelina Jolie
wore one proudly on the cover of People. (Katie Holmes, meanwhile, suffered a
maternity wardrobe malfunction when cameras caught her, nursing bra open and
peeking out of her shirt, while on the town with husband Tom Cruise.)

More seriously, the social and medical debate has intensified. The U.S. Department
of Health and Human Services recently concluded a two-year breast-feeding
awareness campaign including a TV ad - criticized as over-the-top even by some
breast-feeding advocates - in which NOT breast-feeding was equated with the
recklessness of a pregnant woman riding a mechanical bull.

There have been other measures to promote breast-feeding: in December, for
example, Massachusetts
banned hospitals from giving new mothers gift bags with free infant formula, a
practice opponents said swayed some women away from nursing.

Most states now have laws guaranteeing the right to breast-feed where one
chooses, and when a store or restaurant employee denies a woman that right, it
has often resulted in public protests known as nurse-ins: at a
Starbucks in Miami, at Victoria's Secret stores in Racine, Wis. and Boston,
and, last year, outside ABC headquarters in New York, when Barbara Walters made
comments on The View seen by some women to denigrate breast-feeding
in public.

It's a new age, says Melinda Johnson,
a registered dietician and spokesperson for ADA. With the government really getting
behind breast-feeding, it's

RE: [ozmidwifery] Henci Goer's Article on GD

2006-08-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Bah, should have thought about looking
there, I do it so often thanks Mary J





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Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 9:39
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Henci
Goer's Article on GD





From
the The Cochrane Database of Systematic
Reviews 2006 Issue 3 : Background

Gestational
diabetes and impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) in pregnancy affects between 3
and 6% of all pregnancies and both have been associated with pregnancy
complications. A lack of conclusive evidence
has led clinicians to equate the risk of adverse perinatal outcome with
pre-existing diabetes. Consequently, women are often intensively
managed with increased obstetric monitoring, dietary regulation, and in some
cases insulin therapy. However, there has been no sound evidence base to
support intensive treatment. The key issue for clinicians and consumers is
whether treatment of gestational diabetes and IGT will improve perinatal
outcome.

Main
results Three studies with a total of 223 women were included. All three included studies involved women with
IGT. No trials reporting treatments for gestational diabetes met the criteria.
There are insufficient data for any reliable conclusions about the effect of treatments
for IGT on perinatal outcome. The difference in abdominal operative delivery
rates is not statistically significant (relative risk (RR) 0.86, 95% confidence
interval 0.51 to 1.45) and the effect on special care baby unit admission is
also not significant (RR 0.49, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.19 to 1.24).
Reduction in birthweight greater than 90th centile (RR 0.55, 95% CI 0.19 to
1.61) was not found to be significant. This review suggests that an
interventionist policy of treatment may be associated with a reduced risk of
neonatal hypoglycaemia (RR 0.25, 95% CI 0.07 to 0.86). No other statistically
significant differences were detected. A number of outcomes are only reported
by one study resulting in a small sample and wide confidence intervals.

Authors' conclusions

There are
insufficient data for any reliable conclusions about the effects of treatments
for impaired glucose tolerance on perinatal outcome.

Looks
like the studies have not been done. MM















From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Michelle Windsor
Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 6:51
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Henci
Goer's Article on GD







I agree. There seems to be a real misconception even amongst
obstetricians that gestational diabetes has the same risks as pre-existing
diabetes. A couple of years ago I did a bit of research on it for my
masters and could find no evidence that this was so. And according to
cochrane the OGT test is not reproducible 50-70% of the time.











Cheers





Michelle

Mary
 Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







The best way for those who disagree is to
find the definitive studies that address all of Hencis points. If is
such an important issue, those studies would be available for us all to read.
There is harm being done to mothers and babies by the definition of Gestational
diabetes. MM





















What are everyones thoughts on Henci Goers GD
article? Its caused a bit of a stir in my GD forum: http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=382564
but I dont feel that I know enough about it to comment





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Kelly Zantey
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Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support













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[ozmidwifery] FW: Pinky's events and TV

2006-08-03 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Feel free to pass on! J



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Kelly Zantey
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Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support -
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: Pinky McKay 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006
10:01 PM
Subject: re events and TV









Pinky McKay will be on Nine am with kim and
david - channel ten - Friday am! Breastfeeding discussion.

Pinky
will be speaking about infant sleep at:

Infant Massage Australia Parenting Forum - Saturday 5th August, 2.00pm-4.30pm.
Nurses Memorial Centre  431
  St Kilda Road (Cnr Slater Street), Melbourne. Other
speakers include: 


 Tracey Gibney
  Certified Infant Massage Instructor, Registered Midwife and
 International Board Certified Lactation Consultant 
 Helena
 Deacon-Wood  Psychologist: Relationships Australia 
 Cherie Ross
  Creator of the Music For Dreaming CD 


New and expectant parents and babies welcome. Light
refreshments provided. Cost $10 per family. Register at www.infantmassage.org.au or contact
0409 515 097.

Book signing with Pinky McKay - author of
Sleeping Like a Baby - Collins Booksellers, Werribee Plaza  1
pm, Sat 19th August. shop T19 Werribee Plaza, cnr of Derrimut and Heaths road
Werribee.

Sleeping Like a Baby - talk by Pinky McKay
- Lactation Resource Centre, Australian Breastfeeding
Association, 7pm, Wednesday 23rd August. 1818 Malvern Rd, East Malvern. Melway Ref
59 K11. Gold coin donation. Bookings 9885 0855 (numbers limited). Mothers
direct shop open from 6.30pm.





__._,_.___

[ozmidwifery] VBA2C in SA









Dear all,



Can anyone help with some contacts in SA for VBA2C? There
are two mums in my forums desperate for a VB and are being laughed at by their
doctors and midwives. One has a history of PE and the other not. I have
suggested hiring a MIPP to go with them, but if anyone knows of a place that
they can go which is more VBAC friendly that would be great. The discussion is
here: http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=17152

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] RE: VBA2C in SA









Sorry one in Perth, one Adelaide



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: Kelly @
BellyBelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2006 6:28
PM
To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au'
Subject: VBA2C in SA





Dear all,



Can anyone help with some contacts in SA for VBA2C? There
are two mums in my forums desperate for a VB and are being laughed at by their
doctors and midwives. One has a history of PE and the other not. I have
suggested hiring a MIPP to go with them, but if anyone knows of a place that
they can go which is more VBAC friendly that would be great. The discussion is
here: http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=17152

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Placenta Praevia IVF Article









FYI



Risk
of haemorrhage 'increases with IVF'

Clara Pirani, Medical reporter


May 26, 2006

WOMEN
who have IVF treatment are six times more likely to suffer a potentially
dangerous condition during pregnancy than those who conceive naturally.

A study of 845,000 births in Norway revealed women who underwent
IVF had higher rates of placenta praevia, a condition in which the placenta
attaches itself to the lower uterus, blocking the cervix. 

Placenta
praevia can cause the mother to haemorrhage before giving birth. 

Researchers
from St Olavs University Hospital in Trondheim
said the risk of developing placenta praevia increased from three births per
1000 among the general population, to 16 every 1000 with IVF. 

The
study, published in the journal Human Reproduction, also found a threefold risk
among mothers who had given birth twice, once conceiving naturally and once
IVF, or ICSI, in which a sperm is injected directly into an egg. 

The
incidence rose from seven in 1000 births for women who had two natural
conceptions, to 20 in 1000 births for women who had one natural and one
assisted conception. 

Regardless
of whether it was the first or second pregnancy that was conceived through
assisted reproduction technology, we found a nearly threefold risk of placenta
praevia, said lead researcher Liv Bente Romundstad. This suggests
that a substantial proportion of the extra risk may be attributable directly to
factors relating to the reproduction technology. 

The
researchers were not sure why IVF increased the risk of placenta praevia. 

However,
they suggest it may be caused by anatomical factors that contributed to the
women's original infertility, rather than to the IVF procedure itself. 

Alternatively,
the embryo may be placed lower in the uterus during IVF to improve implantation
rates. 

About
6000 babies a year are born through IVF in Australia. 

Michael
Chapman, chairman of the IVF Director's Group, said other factors could account
for the higher rate of placenta praevia among women who had IVF. 

As
a woman gets older she's more likely to have placenta praevia and obviously
women who have IVF are older. 

Women
who've had any surgery on the uterus, like having fibroids removed, would also
have a high chance of placenta praevia. 

Professor
Chapman said doctors closely monitored women who develop the condition and
those undergoing IVF should not be concerned by the study. 

In
this day and age we have good ultrasound and we tend to diagnose it as early as
18 weeks, and therefore we'd be watching out for it, he said. 

Later
on in pregnancy, if a woman presents with bleeding, it's extremely rare for it
to be a catastrophic haemorrhage. 

Women
with placenta praevia are monitored and they will almost always give birth by
caesarean section.





Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] article for my child magazine









Feel free to post on my forums (and say I
said it was ok) as there are lots of younger mums in the younger couples
section





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Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kylie Carberry
Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006
10:16 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] article for
my child magazine







Dear all,


I am
doing a story for My Child magazine on younger mothers (girls in the 20-25
demographic) who choose to start families early rather that the current social
trend of later.It is mainly a personal view type piece but I also wanted
toadd to it with a few of the advantages health wise of having a
baby younger, as opposed to waiting until you older (more risk of miscarriage,
chance of abnormalities with the baby, harder to become pregnant, and other
things like just being more worn out when you're older). Is there anyone who
would like to discuss this with me for the story - or who can suggest someone
who might like to?

Kind
regards 







Kylie Carberry 
Freelance Journalist 
p: +61 2 42970115 
m: +61 2 418220638 
f: +61 2 42970747










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[ozmidwifery] Home/water birth stories needed!

2006-07-29 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I am doing some work for the Nappy Bag Book for next year,
writing an article and also assisting them to locate some great birth stories for the
book. If anyone would be happy to share their home and/or waterbirth for the
book along with some photos (must be a good size/resolution) then please send
them this way. Feel free to distribute this so we can get some wonderful birth
stories widely distributed around Australia J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: Home/water birth stories needed!

2006-07-29 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Id love to look through them all
Felicity but I am completely, madly, flat chat and doing more than I can really
handle at the moment! If you could please just pass on my message it would be a
huge help! 



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Stephen 
Felicity
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2006 4:40
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE:
Home/water birth stories needed!







I am doing some work for the Nappy Bag Book for next year,
writing an article and also assisting them to locate
some great birth stories for the book. If anyone would be happy to share their
home and/or waterbirth for the book along with some photos (must be a good
size/resolution) then please send them this way. Feel free to distribute this
so we can get some wonderful birth stories widely distributed around Australia.

Kelly Zantey











Hi Kelly,











Joyous Birth (being that it's the Australian Homebirth Network) has
plenty of gorgeous homebirth/waterbirth stories, as well as a Gallery of birth
images. I know you're a member, so you can just look at the Birth Stories
in the forum; here's the direct link:-











http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/viewforum.php?f=9sid=f2ac02da1bb67b7d63456c2eb86f1fbe











And here's
the Gallery:-











http://www.joyousbirth.info/gallery/main.php











Please
contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you're interested in any stories/images so we can arrange appropriate
permission from the Mama in question. :o)

[ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

2006-07-25 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Has anyone
ever heard of this?



My
midwife ended up saying as long as the baby is above the placenta; it's ok to
let it stop pulsing naturally before clamping it. She said something about too many
red (or white!) blood cells entering bubs if bub was below the placenta?

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

2006-07-25 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









So I can tell her that this is not a worry?





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Ken Ward
Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2006 6:33
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood
cells and placenta?!







. In mid training days the belief was that
placental blood transfusion following birth would result in increased red blood
cells in the baby thereby increasing jaundice levels. There was also
concern if the baby was above the placenta blood would drain from the baby back
into it. 





-Original Message-
From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2006 5:48
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells
and placenta?!

Has anyone
ever heard of this?



My
midwife ended up saying as long as the baby is above the placenta; it's ok to
let it stop pulsing naturally before clamping it. She said something about too many
red (or white!) blood cells entering bubs if bub was below the placenta?

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Birth, Trauma Personality

2006-07-23 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Help! Someone started a discussion on my forums about birth
and how it shapes the baby as an individual. Of course, everyone thought that
concept was ludicrous, think studies and percentages are rubbish and must think
I am a quack for thinking otherwise LOL J Can anyone
else back me up?! I need some support!!! If you arent signed up in my
forums, please feel free to, or post here any suggestions or comments. 



http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=17144

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] epidurals and c/s

2006-07-18 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I read an older article on epidurals and c/s  see below
 they said that epidurals dont lead to more c/s and referred to
the Cochrane database  would that be correct??? I thought it was the
other way around.



More help for pain relief births
By KARA PHILLIPS
31 October 2005

Quote:


 
  
  PREGNANT
  women who opt for epidurals are much more likely to need 
  medical intervention during the birth, research shows.
  
  Those who have the pain-relieving injections have a 40 per cent higher 
  risk of instruments such as forceps being used, the new international 
  survey says.
  
  They also are more likely to have a longer second stage of labour, 
  require drugs to stimulate contractions, experience dangerously low 
  blood pressure and be unable to move for a time after birth.
  
  The findings come from the Cochrane Review, an independent database, 
  based on 21 studies into the use of epidurals in labour, involving 6664 
  women worldwide.
  
  The study found epidurals relieve pain better than other types of 
  medication but there is a 40 per cent higher risk of needing instruments 
  to assist birth.
  
  There is no difference in Caesarean delivery rates, long-term backache 
  or effects on the baby soon after birth compared with other forms of 
  pain relief.
  
Adelaide
  experts say pregnant women should be made aware choosing an 
  epidural can put them at greater risk of such complications during labour.
  
  Anaesthetist Kym Osborn, at the Women's and Children's Hospital, 
  however, says those risks are very small.
  
  He says 41 per cent of women giving birth at the Women's and Children's 
  hospital choose an epidural, compared with 39 per cent a decade ago. It
  
  has always been the most popular method, Dr Osborn says. What is 
  important is women know their choices - attending anti-natal classes and 
  speaking with your GP should arm you with the knowledge to make the 
  choice right for you. 
  
 






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Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Balwyn/Eastern Suburbs Choices Meeting

2006-07-17 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



A quick note that the Balwyn/Eastern Suburbs Choices Team is
meeting tomorrow night in Camberwell. If anyone further is interested, please
contact me urgently by email or phone  9804 0488. Even if you
cant make it tomorrow or want to be part of the team, let me know J Feel free
to forward onto other lists like the BMid list etc.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Induction due to pulmonary embolism?

2006-07-14 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









One of the women on my forum had a crisis and was going to
have a caesar, but with a bit of encouragement from the others on the site and
with the Obs back-up she decided against it and was ecstatic, but then
said



WOW
you girls totally rock when a girls in need! I actually have to be induced
cause of the pulmonary embolism I got and have to be monitored in labour because
Im on a blood thinning agent



Could someone please explain? Sorry to be asking such basic questions
all the time, I just want to learn! J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] MC members in VIC - I need your help! :)

2006-07-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Dear all,

As you will likely know, Choices for Childbirth is currently
run from Brunswick and South Yarra locations,
with a new one starting up in Geelong
shortly. For such a long time I hoped theyd return to the eastern
suburbs (as they once were in Balwyn). Having gone to a Brunswick session last week, I decided to put
it to everyone and see what they thought. So, in the theme of the moment, I
have put my hand up to bring Choices back home hehehe! The
problem is that I need two more members of the MC to assist me in facilitating
these sessions so we can go ahead. This will be an additional location and not
a replacement, with Balwyn being the perfect spot because I am located only a
couple of minutes away!

You may think that you are not skilled enough to help, but
the fact is that no matter if your experience is having birthed a couple of
babies, or that you are a student midwife, Doula or midwife, we need you!!! As
long as you are an MC member, nothing else matters! You will not be required to
give talks or expert commentary, but your hands and passion is what we
need!As an MC member you have a chance to not only empowerthe
'consumer' out there but alsoour own members once youhave a chance
to realise or explore your own potential J (borrowed
that bit from Deb thanks!).

Also, if that isnt up your alley, BaBs needs helpers
too - facilitators, midwives and students to get more groups going
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you are interested.

There are a number of MC branches already set up, but there
could be many more, once there is more help withdifferent areas -
fundraising, grant writing, committee positions,mail outs, consumer reps
forhospitals and health services and reviews, birth storiesneeding
to be told, the list is endless. So even if you feel that you could only
helpwith making cuppa's or telling your birth story, you never know what
might be perhaps you may later find confidence in being a branch leader,
part of the national team orend up making a huge difference to women
bybeing the consumer rep at a local hospital.

So, I look forward to your replies email me and
lets get Balwyn going again! Heres to lots of women in the east
getting some of the best birth preparation there is!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] MCHN problems

2006-07-12 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Thank
goodness she is going to do something about this it was one of the
Moderators on my site that this happened to:

I took Rosie
down yesterday just to get her weighed
- (9kg BTW! 90th percentile, and my smallest bubba at this age ). Anyway she was going through the book
and checking off all of the questions relating to a 6month old when it came to
solids So I tell her that Rosie isn't really into them, so we are just
trying little bits to get her used to textures and flavours.

This nurse was a nutter - this is what she
told me...

So goes off saying that at 6months she should be having a few meals a day then
puts her hands up to her head and says Hmmm just thinking...no I don't
think we'll introduce formula at this point WT Formula??? I am
breastfeeding with NO supply problems, and no problems other than being worn
out and she is thinking formula???

Then says that she is surprised that I am able to breastfeed because she is my
third baby and the quality of my milk wouldn't be so good.

Then...and this is the corker...says that I should deny Imogen breast because a
baby will eat when it gets hungry. I may have to put up with screaming for a
while until she realises that she won't be getting a breast feed, but when
she's that hungry she'll eat solid food...OMG OMG OMG And
I should give water instead of BM.

She also started talking developmental delay because Imogen is too lazy to get
up and move! She is ONLY 6 MONTHS!!! Thank God I am confident in my mothering
enough to ignore all of her crap!

This is the same nurse that told me that when Imogen was 4months old that she
should start solid food because being 8kgs, she is ready.

Anyway my point to this massive post is that, is it any wonder that people
introduce solid food at 3months, or cut down milk feeds for solids I fear
for the new mothers that don't have the confidence in themselves to do what is
right. Not once did she mention that milk is to be the primary food until
12months, or that solid food is just complimentary until then. This health professional is giving out dodgy
advice and people will believe her because of her position as a CHN.

I will be writing to the chemist and complaining about the advice given,
because she is going against all WHO recommendations and I am sure she has made
more than one mother feel like crap because of her stupid ideas.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] MCHN problems

2006-07-12 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Sometimes here I notice MCHNs go to
chemists for weighing etc  must be some arrangement with the chemist /
council?. I have directed her to write to the MCH co-ordinator though.





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Kelly Zantey
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Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of cath nolan
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:53
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MCHN
problems







can I ask why is a letter being written to the chemist? Was
this a MCHN or a nurse in a different role. I live in the country and MCHN are
in a child health centre office.







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday, July 13,
2006 8:22 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] MCHN
problems









Thank
goodness she is going to do something about this  it was one of the
Moderators on my site that this happened to:



I took Rosie
down yesterday just to get her weighed
- (9kg BTW! 90th percentile, and my smallest bubba at this age ). Anyway she was going through the book and
checking off all of the questions relating to a 6month old when it came to
solids So I tell her that Rosie isn't really into them, so we are just
trying little bits to get her used to textures and flavours. 

This nurse was a nutter - this is what she
told me...

So goes off saying that at 6months she should be having a few meals a day then
puts her hands up to her head and says Hmmm just thinking...no I don't
think we'll introduce formula at this point WT Formula??? I am
breastfeeding with NO supply problems, and no problems other than being worn
out and she is thinking formula???

Then says that she is surprised that I am able to breastfeed because she is my
third baby and the quality of my milk wouldn't be so good.

Then...and this is the corker...says that I should deny Imogen breast because a
baby will eat when it gets hungry. I may have to put up with screaming for a
while until she realises that she won't be getting a breast feed, but when
she's that hungry she'll eat solid food...OMG OMG OMG And I
should give water instead of BM.

She also started talking developmental delay because Imogen is too lazy to get
up and move! She is ONLY 6 MONTHS!!! Thank God I am confident in my mothering
enough to ignore all of her crap!

This is the same nurse that told me that when Imogen was 4months old that she
should start solid food because being 8kgs, she is ready.

Anyway my point to this massive post is that, is it any wonder that people
introduce solid food at 3months, or cut down milk feeds for solids I fear
for the new mothers that don't have the confidence in themselves to do what is
right. Not once did she mention that milk is to be the primary food until
12months, or that solid food is just complimentary until then. This health professional is giving out dodgy
advice and people will believe her because of her position as a CHN.

I will be writing to the chemist and complaining about the advice given,
because she is going against all WHO recommendations and I am sure she has made
more than one mother feel like crap because of her stupid ideas.







Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-11 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Hello all!



Please tune into the Today Show (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne
(bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow,
the 11th July. Pinky will be on and she needs our support!!! Dont
forget to write in, AFTER the show hehehe to let them know we loved her being
on and would like to see more. Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is having a
gorgeous time in Sydney!!!)

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-11 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Tomorrow
on TODAY: Sleeping like a baby? 
Does your baby or toddler have trouble sleeping? Be watching tomorrow at 8.10am
when we speak with parenting expert Pinky McKay about this common problem. If
you'd like to ask Pinky a question - email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:53
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV
tomorrow x 2!!!





Hello all!



Please tune into the Today Show (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne
(bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow,
the 11th July. Pinky will be on and she needs our support!!!
Dont forget to write in, AFTER the show hehehe to let them know we loved
her being on and would like to see more. Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is
having a gorgeous time in Sydney!!!)

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Today Tonight (VIC) Caesarean Births

2006-07-10 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









FYI there is a story on tonight about increased caesareans
being performed.



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Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Today Tonight (VIC) Caesarean Births

2006-07-10 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Yup. *sigh*





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Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
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Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of jo
Sent: Monday, 10 July 2006 7:01 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Today
Tonight (VIC) Caesarean Births





HH! Anyone else screaming at the
tv



jo











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Monday, 10 July 2006 6:32 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Today
Tonight (VIC) Caesarean Births





FYI there is a story on tonight about increased caesareans
being performed.



Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] ALCA

2006-07-10 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I was checking out some links to find some Lactation
Consultants in Sydney
and I came across this link: http://www.alca.asn.au
 does anyone know much about this association? I know many women on this
list are also lactation consultants but the list here doesnt seem very
big, is there a reason why? 



Also, can anyone recommend a fabulous LC in Sydney (CDB or
inner west) to help a mum with bleeding nipples?

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Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???

2006-07-09 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

I try really hard to be careful with my wording! But still, it seems to take
a while for replies to go through (sometimes if at all!). I do notice that
the yahoo groups go through so quickly, often instantly, perhaps you could
change to a Yahoo group instead, import all the email addresses in? It would
require less maintenance too perhaps? This appears to be a mailman list, I
used to use it and it was okay, but very fiddly.

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Hunter
Sent: Monday, 3 July 2006 5:29 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???

Hi all,

I've looked into the problems that seem to be happening on
the list, in particularly, that not all emails are being received
by everyone.

There are two issues that could be causing this problem, the
first one is spam filters as already mentioned by Andrea.
Unfortunately, there is no perfect technology available to
make sure only real spam is filtered and all the email you
want or expect to receive actually arrive in your inbox.

This spam issue also affects some emails that are bouncing.
As I don't always have time to go through all my spam mail
to make sure I catch all bounces from the list.  Although I will
endeavour to be as thorough as I can, I do received over 100
spam emails a day (that's my problem though :-) ).

I am currently going through my spam mail to fish out any
bounces that aren't spam and will respond to anyone whose
mail has wrongly ended up in my spam inbox.

Some of the ways you can help to make sure all emails are
received:

* Have a think about the words you use in your email, spam filters
   are set up to catch key words. Some of these you may need to
   use due to the nature of your work but may also have a not spam
   typical description.

* Only send emails to the list only and not copy in other people

* Try not to use the special words in emails, like s*bscribe,
   uns*bscribe, j*in, c*ncel and h*lp (particularly in the subject heading).

* Try to remember that the list doesn't like attachments.

* When replying to messages try to only keep as much of the
   original message as is needed to make sense of your reply.  Emails
   bounce when they are too long.

* For those who view this list via the archives, unfortunately, you
   can only post emails to the list is you are a member.  There is
   no reason why you can't join to send an email and then take
   yourself off the list after your email has been sent.

I hope this is useful to you all.  Please don't hesitate to contact me
should you have any questions.

Regards
Kim




At 03:05 25/06/2006, you wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks 
emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out.  This 
is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. 
Everyone is welcome here!

The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate.  Sometimes 
I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter 
where I pick them up - you  could try checking there for missed 
emails. If the sender copies messages  to other email addresses at 
the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me.  For example, 
an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address 
and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your
ISP.

Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else 
at the same time.

I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions.

Regards

Andrea



At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote:
The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been 
involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, 
the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's 
recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear 
yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics 
of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about
Birthplans).

Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails 
being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs 
to be remedied for the list to function fairly and 
effectively.  It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred 
multiple times historically too.

- Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???


I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see 
replies to messages that I never received etc.
At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth  Men at Birth wrote:
G'day,

I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 
June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but 
they never

[ozmidwifery] Life Matters Tomorrow: A Midwife Working in Remote Australia

2006-07-09 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Life Matters on
ABC Radio National



Tuesday July 11



9am - 10am live
with Kate Evans (Richard Aedy is on leave this week)



.



Stories include:



* The argument
for accelerating gifted children through school. We speak to one of the world's
most respected researchers on gifted education, Miraca Gross.

* Some good news
from Cambodia
- casualities from land mines are finally starting to lessen and the economy is
improving. Austcare Ambassador General John
Sanderson who lead the UN Peacekeeping Force in Cambodia in the early 1990's gives
his assessment of repair and reconciliation in the country.

* Gambling
addiction - a personal perspective.

* The midlife
midwife. Meet a listener from Thursday Island who's a passionate midwife
working in remote Australia.



Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] FW: [ozbirthing] Too many caesars

2006-07-08 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Leslie - I
wonder if this has something to do with what you mentioned at Choices last
night (the Ob was sued in the US for something like 1.3 million for performing
a caesarean which was 'uninformed consent') Maybe they are deciding it might be
a good idea to think differently and thought they better say something quick
smart?







Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 1:46
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozbirthing] Too many
caesars





Too many caesars
Experts are calling for a rethink on the readiness of Australian 
women to have caesareans. Kellie Bisset reports
The Australian 
July 08, 2006
IN doctors' rooms around the country pregnant women are walking in 
and asking for their babies to be surgically removed. They're not the 
majority, but evidence shows their numbers are increasing.
Some of them are paralysed by the fear of giving birth, others want 
to remain in control of where and when they have their baby, and 
still others think caesarean section is a less risky option than 
leaving delivery up to Mother Nature. 

Add to these the women advised by their obstetricians to have a 
caesarean section before, or during, labour and you get a national 
caesarean rate of nearly 29 per cent.

Midwives have loudly criticised the rapid growth of surgical 
deliveries over the past decade, and now doctors are joining them.

More obstetricians are worried that the looming possibility of one in 
three babies checking in to the world via the spartan surrounds of an 
operating theatre is too high a number. And important new research 
published last month in the US
journal Obstetrics  Gynecology 
(2006;107:1226-1232) gives us an idea as to why.

The study of more than 30,000 women showed the more caesareans they 
had, the greater the risk of complications including hysterectomy, 
bowel and bladder injury, admission to intensive care and blood 
transfusions. Risks for some complications more than doubled between 
the first and the third caesar.

Given that more than 80 per cent of Australian mothers who've had one 
caesar go on to have another, the US results are particularly 
relevant to us.

In the desire to do good we have actually started to do some harm, 
and this paper illustrates that well, says David Ellwood, professor 
of obstetrics and gynaecology at the Australian
 National University.

Ellwood says we need to think carefully about getting the balance 
right between what's excessive and a safe level of intervention to 
avoid harm. I really think at the moment we have swung too far the 
other way. We perhaps overestimate the size of the impact on outcomes 
for babies and underestimate the risks (to the mother).

Senior vice-president of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College 
of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Dr Chris Tippett agrees.

She says too many women are getting biased or selective information 
on the pros and cons of caesarean section, which is now seen by many 
doctors and their patients as the preferred option.

Caesarean section is a significant intervention . . . there are 
concerns about whether or not we are leaving a legacy of problems.

Until now, studies looking at the question of repeat caesarean risk 
have reported mixed results, but many doctors and midwives have long 
suspected the caesarean story is not a completely rosy one.

Experts say that while this study confirms what they've been 
thinking, it's significant because of its sheer size and conclusive 
results, which can now be used to give women a better picture of what 
they're up against. 

It showed one in 155 women needed a hysterectomy after their first 
caesar, but that risk rises to nearly one in 40 for those having 
their fourth  figures Ellwood describes as surprisingly
high.

Another major complication was placenta accreta, an abnormally firm 
attachment of the placenta to the wall of the uterus, which hampers 
control of bleeding after the baby is born. In many cases of placenta 
accreta, severe bleeding leads to the need for a blood transfusion or 
hysterectomy. 

According to the study the risk of placenta accreta more than doubled 
for those women having their third caesar (one in 175) compared with 
those having their first (one in 413).

By the fourth caesar, the risk was one in 46.

Tippett says she now sees a case of placenta accreta every three to 
four weeks, a huge jump from when she started her obstetrics training 
in the early 80s.

This study is good evidence  it says to women that caesarean 
section is generally a safe procedure, but if you are planning on 
having a family of three to four children, think very carefully 
before you go down the caesarean section pathway.

Ellwood thinks we've lost sight of the bigger picture.

It is the third caesarean where

RE: [ozmidwifery] 'Lactation failure caused by lack of glandular development in the breast'

2006-07-07 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Thanks Brenda, I was hoping to get an idea
of how prevalent it really is as some sites say its rare and some say its not 
of course I wouldnt be the one to diagnose this, but what sort of
symptoms or signs do you notice when this is the case? Of course I would refer
a mum to a lactation consultant, but I just love any knowledge as you can tell
LOL.





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of brendamanning
Sent: Friday, 7 July 2006 4:12 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
'Lactation failure caused by lack of glandular development in the breast'







'what
everyone thought on
the topic'.





that she is
absolutely right  it's a very under-diagnosed condition.











Whenever a
woman says: oh my breasts didn't change at all with my pregnancy
the alarm bells should ring !











With kind regards
Brenda Manning 
www.themidwife.com.au







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Friday, July 07,
2006 3:49 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
'Lactation failure caused by lack of glandular development in the breast'









Does anyone have any experiences to share with this? A woman
has posted on my site about her experience and I was wondering what everyone
thought on the topic.



http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=352746

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

2006-07-07 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Great news - mum relaxed, all is now normal and fine with every aspect of
her monitoring. I had a feeling it was only anxiety. And thank goodness it
was good old white coat syndrome... we can all breathe now.

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 5:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...


  By obtaining information from an internet
 list and offering this in opposition to the care the woman receives from
the
 hospital can have a potentially damaging effect on her trust of the carers
 at the hospital that she has chosen.

I'm afraid I see trust as something to be earned and trusting professionals
because they're professionals is unwise. No one suggests we trust other
professionals uncritically so why are midwives and doctors different? A
second opinion is always recommended in other medical situations. Offering a
woman genuine evidence that saves her and her baby from unnecessary
intervention may not enhance her relationship with those she has employed
but it might just save her life! Why should she uncritically trust
everything she's told just because it's in a hospital?


 The woman should take her birthing
 plan and her queries regarding the blood pressure to the people at the
 hospital, where she can discuss what an induction means and why she may or
 may not need this.

No, this woman should seek outside sources to confirm for herself what she
feels comfortable with, not ask the people who want to intervene. What will
their response be? Oh sure, we just offered induction because our time and
motion issues and surgeons' timetables mean we prefer to induce women to our
needs not theirs. Or will it be, Yes, you're deathly ill and if we don't
induce you your baby might die. I know the latter response is the one I
hear most reported back from consumers.

 My defense over the interference in hospitals stands only on this- that
 people interfere when they are concerned of the potential risk to the
mother
 and baby, if we did nothing we are also putting them at risk.

No, people interfere when the nexus of commerce, misogyny and ignorance
around what birth really is comes together. We all know that rates of
intervention in hospitals are way out of control and overservicing is the
name of the game. You can't possibly be saying that primary c-sec rates are
appropriate in this country and that all interventions are performed with
pure hearts and women's lives in the balance? Birth isn't inherently
dangerous but if you look at the outcomes in this country clearly birth in
institutions is a risky business.

There are no excuses for our outrageous rates of intervention but every
reason for our concomitantly poor outcomes. As WHO says, when all women are
treated in high tech units as if they are high risk, outcomes are crap. Too
true!

J
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[ozmidwifery] 'Lactation failure caused by lack of glandular development in the breast'

2006-07-06 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Does anyone have any experiences to share with this? A woman
has posted on my site about her experience and I was wondering what everyone
thought on the topic.



http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=352746

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

Thank-you, that was most helpful :)

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katy O'Neill
Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2006 4:03 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

Dear Kelly,  While this women does have an increase in her BP of some
significants and protein ( the amount is not stated ), these things are
symptoms not diagnostic and so yes she should be monitored and if necessary
some meds to control her BP ( but not yet at only 130/80 ).  But you say her
bloods are OK.  The 24hr urine will be helpful, but if her bloods stay
unchanged with serial monitoring then I don't see the need to panic.  Katy.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen  Felicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...


 A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

 Heidi, I'm shocked by this statement.  I can only assume I misunderstood
 your stance; could you expand on this statement?

 Being well-informed is not about being scared or doubtful of the Hospital
 (and a Doula doesn't put fear or doubt into their clients); it's a basic
 human right, particularly for a birthing woman and her baby.  Knowledge is
 never dangerous (it's NOT being informed that carries the danger); and if
 knowledge leads a woman to feel fearful of a course of action that is
 proposed for her, that is a GOOD thing - it's her intuition telling her
that
 she isn't ok with it happening, and pushing her to seek other options.
 Co-operation with a Hospital and her careprovider is not the ultimate goal
 for a birthing woman.  It should be the other way around.

 Women are not infants and they have a right to any and all information,
and
 to their emotions - even if they include fear.  Fear is natural in birth
and
 it's good support and good practice that gets us through it effectively;
not
 avoiding the feeling altogether.

 Careproviders might not interfere with women and birth for fun (although
 I've seen and heard of Obs that indicate differently - and even, rarely,
 Midwives), but the rates of intervention compared to the rates indicated a
s
 actually necessary show that they're not often intervening based on
 evidence, either.

 It's not the information and knowledge that scares women.  It's the
 practices and the outcomes.  To address the fear we don't need to withhold
 information so the women can birth in Hospital without fuss; we need to
 truly support women, foster open negotiation and respect, and keep pushing
 to change the practices that aren't evidence-based or in the best
interests
 of women and their babies.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
 Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...


  Oh no no no, not at all!!! I have been as level headed with her as
  possible,
  encouraged her to ask questions, and forwarded some information which I
  found on the list in regards to how it all works - I am just more blunt
on
  the list as I know I am not going to scare anyone who is informed, and I
  like honest questions and answers without having to worry about
upsetting
  anyone!
  Of course I have encouraged her to do the regular check-ups with them,
and
  if she wants to and all is well, ask if she can have more time or if
they
  think it's important that she does go ahead with it, then that's fine. I
  often say more here than I do to the women, and make sure my role is
  support
  and not advice.
 
  If anything, she is paranoid about having a posterior baby which was
  fostered by a mum they brought into her ante-natal class who had a
  posterior
  bub as well, was induced and had an epidural - all of which she doesn't
  want. I have told her that having an OP bub now doesn't mean she will in
  labour, and if she did, we have tricks up our sleeve to work with that.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Kelly Zantey
  Creator, BellyBelly.com.au
  Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
  BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of heidi crisp
  Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:01 PM
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...
 
  I am a student midwife in a tertiary hospital and this is from Myles
  textbook  Generally, hypertension is regarded as 140/90, however if the
  individual has an increase of 30mg systolic or 15mg diastolic with
  presence
  of proteinurea then she should be monitored closely.  The risk is of
  developing pre-eclampsia and then eclampsia, harm to baby and mother
  Your client has shown

[ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar









Just wondering what guidelines exist for trial of scar
a woman on my site said that she has been given until 41 weeks to give birth or
shell be having another caesarean. Is this right? I am sure I have heard
otherwise and seen otherwise 

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar









Oh yes we are having a big discussion
about the wording after that post, and I told everyone I am going to write an
article:



Failure to Progress: Why Doctors
Need to Move On



LOL I will too ;)



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:16
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial
of Scar







What a bloody
crock. Yes, that's a common protocol to wave at birthing women who'd be doing
just fine with a bit of evidence based care. I've heard limits of 38 weeks
(yes, really!) through to 41 weeks on the time a woman with previous surgery is
told she's allowed to gestate before being forcibly sliced open. It
depends on the hospital and whether or not she employs a private surgeon.





Tell her to run
for the hills if she wants to be safe. And don't get me started on the
intrinsically offensive nature of that term... TOS - trial of service is what
it really means!





J - whose
sister is currently labouring for her HBAC at 42+4 without ANY crap like that!







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday, July 06,
2006 8:25 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Trial of Scar









Just wondering what guidelines exist for trial of
scar a woman on my site said that she has been given until 41 weeks to
give birth or shell be having another caesarean. Is this right? I am
sure I have heard otherwise and seen otherwise 

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Trial of Scar









Id love to use all three but I will
stick with the one that women know well  most of the birth stories in
our forum have that in it, unfortunately





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly
Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 1:18
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial
of Scar







It's really
failure to wait and failure to stop poking about...







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday, July 06,
2006 1:19 PM





Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]
Trial of Scar









Oh yes we are having a big discussion
about the wording after that post, and I told everyone I am going to write an
article:



Failure to Progress: Why Doctors
Need to Move On



LOL I will too ;)



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybellycom.au/birth-support











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:16
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial
of Scar







What a bloody
crock. Yes, that's a common protocol to wave at birthing women who'd be doing
just fine with a bit of evidence based care. I've heard limits of 38 weeks
(yes, really!) through to 41 weeks on the time a woman with previous surgery is
told she's allowed to gestate before being forcibly sliced open. It
depends on the hospital and whether or not she employs a private surgeon.





Tell her to run
for the hills if she wants to be safe. And don't get me started on the
intrinsically offensive nature of that term... TOS - trial of service is what
it really means!





J - whose
sister is currently labouring for her HBAC at 42+4 without ANY crap like that!







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday, July 06,
2006 8:25 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Trial of Scar









Just wondering what guidelines exist for trial of
scar a woman on my site said that she has been given until 41 weeks to
give birth or shell be having another caesarean. Is this right? I am
sure I have heard otherwise and seen otherwise 

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Get-Up website

2006-07-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I came across a website recently called Get-Up (http://www.getup.org.au) 



What is GetUp?

GetUp is a new political movement to build a more progressive Australia. 

GetUp brings together like-minded people who want to bring participation back
into our democracy. GetUp.org.au members use the latest online tools to act on
the most important issues facing the country.



I had a brainwave (one of the few LOL!) - perhaps someone
could contact them about getting some birthing issues on there? Its all
so very easy to get petitions set up and sent to the government, I had a look
through their campaigns and signed some petitions the other week and they get
HUGE responses and have a great site using great technology to make it all the
easier. Anyone interested in contacting them? Hopefully we can pass on all the
evidence we saw at the homebirth conference to help bring birth back home and
help rural birthing mothers.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

2006-07-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Hello all,



Just wondering if anyone has some reassurance for this
woman, I have given her some info which was posted here previously as well as
my own reinforcements for her, but it sounds like the mercy are really pushing
for an induction and shes buying it a little  not surprising
since my last birth there they did the same brought in more and more
doctors until mum had enough! There are a couple of days emails here:



Just
thought I should update you on my tests etc on Friday... I went back in to the
birth centre, they took my blood pressure and another urine sample and said I
should go and get monitored because my blood pressure was the same (not
higher), and there was trace protein in my wee.



So, I spent about
4 hours (so boring!) having a CTG (which was fine), blood test (also fine), and
blood pressure monitored every half hour. My blood pressure stayed the same or
was a little lower on one test. Then I had to wait around to see the doctor, who
said I need to do a 24 hour urine test thing this coming Thursday and then go
back in on Friday to have the blood test, CTG and blood pressure monitored
again. I also have an appointment on Friday at the birth centre, so I just go
in early for that.



So, I'm feeling
okay physically, but really, really hoping that this baby will just come early
on them so they don't get the chance to induce me... I've had more acupuncture
and a massage over the weekend, and am just trying to take it easy this week.



Then this



My blood
pressure throughout my pregnancy has been 100/60, but when it was tested
Thursday/Friday last week it was 130/80... so not really high, just high for
me. I've been having calcium and magnesium supplements but probably haven't
been eating enough fish... we can have some this week before Friday I guess! I've
been trying to do my relaxation every day, which is helpful at the time, until
I think about them inducing me with a posterior baby...!



I have just
emailed Dave and asked him to print out our birth preferences, and have
included a section on induction in there, just in case! I basically just said I
would like the drip to start slowly and allow time for active labour to
establish before increasing the dose, and also said that even if induced I
would like to avoid an epidural (if humanly possible!).



So I think having some more replies from midwives will help
back up the points I have been making I think she needs some more
confidence/re-inforcement!!!

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

2006-07-04 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly

Oh no no no, not at all!!! I have been as level headed with her as possible,
encouraged her to ask questions, and forwarded some information which I
found on the list in regards to how it all works - I am just more blunt on
the list as I know I am not going to scare anyone who is informed, and I
like honest questions and answers without having to worry about upsetting
anyone! 

Of course I have encouraged her to do the regular check-ups with them, and
if she wants to and all is well, ask if she can have more time or if they
think it's important that she does go ahead with it, then that's fine. I
often say more here than I do to the women, and make sure my role is support
and not advice. 

If anything, she is paranoid about having a posterior baby which was
fostered by a mum they brought into her ante-natal class who had a posterior
bub as well, was induced and had an epidural - all of which she doesn't
want. I have told her that having an OP bub now doesn't mean she will in
labour, and if she did, we have tricks up our sleeve to work with that.

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of heidi crisp
Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:01 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood pressure...

I am a student midwife in a tertiary hospital and this is from Myles 
textbook  Generally, hypertension is regarded as 140/90, however if the 
individual has an increase of 30mg systolic or 15mg diastolic with presence 
of proteinurea then she should be monitored closely.  The risk is of 
developing pre-eclampsia and then eclampsia, harm to baby and mother  
Your client has shown these symptoms and therefore the hospital has an 
obligation to care for her as best they know.


My blood pressure throughout my pregnancy has been 100/60, but when it was
tested Thursday/Friday last week it was 130/80... so not really high, just
high for me.

also she wrote
I basically
just said I would like the drip to start slowly and allow time for active
labour to establish before increasing the dose, and also said that even if
induced I would like to avoid an epidural (if humanly possible!).

When having an induction where I work- we do start very low and increase 
UNTIL established labour, then the dose stays the same.  We don't do this to

be horrible to women- there is no half way with having a baby, there is no 
point in doing an induction if you can't reach established labour because 
then she really will have doctors hanging about wanting a C/S for failure to

progress!

remember, A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.  Support this 
woman in all the ways your service offers but do your best not to put fear 
or doubt of the hospital into her, the brain is a crucial part of labour and

if she's scared silly of the place labour won't happen either.  We don't 
interfere with women for fun that's for sure!

regards from Heidi


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[ozmidwifery] Pinky on 5AA radio at 7.40AEST

2006-07-03 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









If you are not in Adelaide,
you can go to www.5aa.com.au and click listen
online and you can listen to the interview. Please ring in / email in in
support of Pinky McKay and ask for more!!! Other shows she will be on tomorrow
are:



3.30pm - 105.7
ABC RADIO DARWIN

4:35pm - 891 ABC RADIO ADELAIDE

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Back from the Homebirth Conference

2006-07-02 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for such a wonderful
weekend! It was lovely to put so many faces to names and to have that passion
turned up a notch by being in the presence of so many women cheering on the
same hopes and dreams we have for birth. 



Thanks all again, cant wait for next year!

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Ask an Expert PR Registration Site

2006-06-28 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Came across this website, which I thought some of you would
qualify for, plus a definite for the Maternity Coalition and ABA: http://www.expertguide.com.au



Do you want journalists to contact
you for your expert opinion? If youre an expert in your field, become a
part of Australias
largest network of professional and academic commentators here.
Subscribers receive free publicity assistance.



Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Post Natal Doula Gold Coast

2006-06-25 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









One of the women on my forum is looking for a gentle post-natal
Doula:



i was wondering if anyone can recommend a post natal Doula on
the gold coast need some help settling my 10 week old colicky bub?

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Urgent: First Time Mums of Newborn Needed (VIC)

2006-06-22 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly









Dear all,



I have just been contacted by a current affairs program who
are looking for mums to appear on their show which is in an article about
Pinky's new book, Sleeping Like a Baby. They are after mums with babies up to
about 3 months of age, ideally younger, and perhaps have breastfeeding issues
they would like help on too. It's going to be Supernanny style
where Pinky comes into the home and helps the parents with the sleep and
feeding troubles. They are after first time mums only ASAP, who are new to
parenting and would like some help. So if you can do this, I need your details
asap - email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can do it :)

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts onBirth Plans?

2006-06-22 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly






Subject: *SUSPECTED
SPAM* Re: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts onBirth Plans?











I always
emphasise to women that one of the reasons they need a birth plan to birth in
an institution is that the careprovider has one and their birth will run to it
if they don't provide an alternative. Let's not kid ourselves that birth plans
are respected though when even basic stuff like Please don't offer me drugs
I will ask if I require pain relief is ignored so frequently. Birth plans
SHOULD be treated with the same respect that living wills are accorded and
until then they are too often used as a way to pacify women and make them feel
that their birth is under their control when it isn't. I've heard from too many
women who've had birth plans laughed at and actually even ripped up in front of
them.











I also recommend
to women that they take their birth plan to important people in the
institution and have it signed so that in labour there are no arguments about
having aspects of it implemented that are not usual - no drugs, physiological
third stage, no vit k or hep b etc. 











It's worth
considering the argument in Birthing from Within that writing a
birth plan indicates mistrust of the CP. I don't agree necessarily although
experience has shown that institutions don't cope at all well in general with
women having plans so perhaps the argument has something to it. I know that
home birth plans, for example, look VERY different because women are able to
assume that their wishes will be respected in a way that they just can't in the
system. I havea TF plan so my support people are clued up on what I want
even if I'm unconscious.











Unfortunately
too few women labour unhindered in the system regardless of their desire so to
do and as a result there's a misconception in the mainstream that birth plans
are pointless. Given how few true emergencies occur when women are left alone
to birth, this has now become a self fulfilling prophecy. Too many women come
back to their peer group and say There was no point having that birth
plan because it all went pearshaped without realising that had they not
been induced/augmented/given an epidural, it wouldn't have gone pearshaped and
their plan would have served them and their baby well.











Including the
baby in the birth plan is also really important because once the baby leaves
the woman's body it can too easily become the hospital's property and be given
all manner of unnecessary tests and drugs and formula without parental consent.











Ultimately the
staff have the final power to respect, or not, each woman's wishes in labour so
maybe, Kelly, you'd be better serving women to address those who receive the
plans in the hospitals/BCs - that's where the power really lies in this
situation. Let's not pacify women further by kidding them that they have more
control than the staff are prepared to share, hey?











This is from my
website re: birthing outside of the home.





http://www.joyousbirthinfo/hospital.html











J







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Wednesday, June
21, 2006 9:27 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] Your
thoughts on Birth Plans?









I am writing an article as we speak on birth plans (I prefer
to say birth intentions or birth preferences and hopefully everyone else will
too one day!) and I was wondering if anyone would be happy to comment from a
midwife perspective?



Id like to know: 




 What do you think of birth plans
 women are writing at the moment 
 What do you think about it
 being called birth preferences or intentions instead, 
 What you like and dislike when
 you read them  i.e. too long, too unrealistic or whatever springs
 to your mind 




I wont put your name to the comments so you can feel
free to be open and honest about it, I would really love to add your
perspectives if you are open to it. Thank-you in advance J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

[ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?









I am writing an article as we speak on birth plans (I prefer
to say birth intentions or birth preferences and hopefully everyone else will
too one day!) and I was wondering if anyone would be happy to comment from a
midwife perspective?



Id like to know: 




 What do you think of birth
 plans women are writing at the moment
 What do you think about it
 being called birth preferences or intentions instead,
 What you like and dislike when
 you read them  i.e. too long, too unrealistic or whatever springs
 to your mind 




I wont put your name to the comments so you can feel
free to be open and honest about it, I would really love to add your
perspectives if you are open to it. Thank-you in advance J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Low iron and inability to breastfeed?









It said page not found. 





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Natalie Dash
Sent: Wednesday, 21 June 2006
10:02 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Low
iron and inability to breastfeed?








Here's an interesting study from the Journal
of Clinical Nutrition advance online publication 1 March 2006. 











http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs











Mother's iron status, breastmilk iron and lactoferrin
- are they related?





Abstract

Objective:

Exclusive breastfeeding is recommended till 6 months age. Factors
regulating the breastmilk iron and lactoferrin levels are incompletely known.
Considering high prevalence of nutritional anemia in lactating mothers, we
studied the iron status of lactating mothers, their breastmilk iron and
lactoferrin levels to determine any relationship between them. 





Design:

Prospective study with 6 months follow-up.





Setting:

Tertiary care referral hospital.





Subjects:

Hundred nonanemic and 100 anemic mothers with their babies recruited at
birth. Fifty-two nonanemic and 50 anemic mothers and their babies completed the
6-month follow-up.





Interventions:


Hemoglobin (Hb), total iron binding capacity (TIBC), percent
transferrin saturation (%TS), serum iron (SI) and serum ferritin measured on
day 1 and 6 months postpartum. Breastmilk iron and lactoferrin measured on day
1, 14 weeks and 6 months after delivery. 





Results:


Breastmilk iron decreased progressively from day 1 to 14 weeks and at 6
months in both groups, but no significant difference was noted between
nonanemic and anemic mothers (P0.05).
Significant decline in breastmilk lactoferrin concentration from day 1 to 14
weeks in nonanemic and anemic mothers ( P0.001)
noted. Hemoglobin, TIBC, %TS, SI and serum ferritin of both groups had no
correlation with breastmilk iron and lactoferrin concentration on day 1, 14
weeks and 6 months after delivery.





Conclusions:

Breastmilk iron and lactoferrin concentration had no relationship with
the mother's Hb and iron status.





Sponsorship:

This work was carried out as part of thesis research under University of Delhi.

Natalie Dash
Childbirth Education  Birth Support

RE: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?

Oh dear emails are not coming through! I am sorry if I don't reply to
everyone but I tend to lose quite a few emails from the list. I just have
this one so far. If anyone else has posted anything else, please can you
forward it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank-you so much Zoe! I'll include that in the article for sure. 

One of the women I supported while I was still training had fabulously
written birth preferences, I asked her if I could use it for a template for
others and she was fine to share. All of the women I have supported since
use it, they may edit one or two points but they love it, as do the midwives
who read it. If anyone would be interested in reading it I will post it.
It's short sharp and shiny and covers everything, so well written.

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katy O'Neill
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 9:05 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?

Dear Zoe,  I like your 3 step plan. Covers all bases.  Katy.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?


 Kelly,
   I wrote a 'birth Plan for both of my births. I had three - the
'ideal birth the if i need to transfer / intervention and the 'c/section'
In each i put what my prefernces were ie ; if i had an epidural i did not
want a routine IDC. Also my wishes if i had a c/section were that the drape
be dropped so that we could watch the baby being born and discover the sex
ourselves. I found it very useful to present to the birth centre and my
private ob ( who would be my doctor if i transfered to the main hospital ).
For me they both went the ideal birth  way. As a midwife ( working in a
private hospital ) I find that the birth plans that our women come through
with are often difficult for the women to follow as they seem to not prepare
themselves physically ( ie yoga etc ) or mentally for what labour is all
about. They also expect that their partner will always be able to support
this 'plan. i think that following through with the birth plan is difficult
without an extra su!
  pport person ( doula etc).
 Good Luck
 zoe ( parent / midwife )



  Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am writing an article as we speak on birth plans (I prefer to say
  birth
  intentions or birth preferences and hopefully everyone else will too one
  day!) and I was wondering if anyone would be happy to comment from a
  midwife
  perspective?
 
 
 
  I'd like to know:
 
 
 
  * What do you think of birth plans women are writing at the moment
  * What do you think about it being called birth preferences or
  intentions instead,
  * What you like and dislike when you read them - i.e. too long, too
  unrealistic or whatever springs to your mind
 
 
 
  I won't put your name to the comments so you can feel free to be open
  and
  honest about it, I would really love to add your perspectives if you are
  open to it. Thank-you in advance :-)
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Kelly Zantey
  Creator,  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ BellyBelly.com.au
  Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
   http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support -
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
 
 
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?









Thank-you Katy! Muchly appreciated. J





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Katy O'Neill
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 9:03
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Your
thoughts on Birth Plans?







Dear Kelly, I like the idea of ' birth plans ' and
encourage it when I conduct Antenatalgroups. I see it as a way
to have the woman and birthing supportsgive due consideration to
all the options and give a credence to the fact that they do ( or should have )
choice. Having said that, I get to see very few women who have made
one. Some colleagues however do not feel the same as they think it may
set the women up to fail with unfulfilled expectations, and set ideas, not
allowing for therange of possible labours. The change to calling it
by another name may give the midwivesless concern as the word preference
or intension sound less rigid than plan. So I like the idea. On a
lighter side I did see a plan years ago that was so long ( 15 typed pages )
that I'm not sure there was time to read it all. Not my women, but from
memory, some of her plans were very fixed and not allowing for the vagaries of
each women's labour and sadlyI think not all went to her plan.I
work in country NSW . Katy







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From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Wednesday, June
21, 2006 9:27 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] Your
thoughts on Birth Plans?









I am writing an article as we speak on birth plans (I prefer
to say birth intentions or birth preferences and hopefully everyone else will
too one day!) and I was wondering if anyone would be happy to comment from a
midwife perspective?



Id like to know: 




 What do you think of birth
 plans women are writing at the moment 
 What do you think about it
 being called birth preferences or intentions instead, 
 What you like and dislike when
 you read them  i.e. too long, too unrealistic or whatever springs
 to your mind 




I wont put your name to the comments so you can feel
free to be open and honest about it, I would really love to add your perspectives
if you are open to it. Thank-you in advance J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support





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