Re: [ozmidwifery] Scheduled Caesareans...?

2006-01-10 Thread Judy Chapman
I have thought this for years but seeing how hard it is to
eliminate Failure to Progress from the OB language I think it
would be harder to change EL CS to SCS or Booked CS. 
Cheers
Judy

--- Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of the women in my forums posted this comment which I
 think is very
 interesting, while I know there are far too many c/s as is, I
 think she has
 a valid point. What do you think?
 
  
 
 I was just thinking that the name 'elective C/S' should be
 changed to
 'scheduled C/S'. So many people don't elect caesareans but
 have them as a
 matter of medical necessity and the term elective implies a
 choice that may
 not exist and IMO probably contributes to the whole 'too posh
 to push'
 perception that alot of people have of scheduled C/S's...
 
  
 
 I know that lots of these scheduled caesarians are probably
 unnecessary, but
 of course some aren't.
 
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[ozmidwifery] Scheduled Caesareans...?

2006-01-09 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








One of the women in my forums posted this comment which I
think is very interesting, while I know there are far too many c/s as is, I
think she has a valid point. What do you think?



I was just thinking that the
name 'elective C/S' should be changed to 'scheduled C/S'. So many people don't
elect caesareans but have them as a matter of medical necessity and the term
elective implies a choice that may not exist and IMO probably contributes to
the whole 'too posh to push' perception that alot of people have of scheduled
C/S's...



I know that lots of these scheduled
caesarians are probably unnecessary, but of course some arent.

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions For Conception,
Pregnancy, Birth  Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support










Re: [ozmidwifery] Scheduled Caesareans...?

2006-01-09 Thread Janet Fraser



I don't think it matters what 
you call them so long as you avoid euphemisms, of which we are currently 
sprouting plenty. They're a symptom of our obstetric culture to have perfectly 
healthy women having dangerous surgery they don't need. Most research I read on 
caesareans for true medical necessity put the figure at around 5% (give or take) 
and given that most "elective" caesareans occur in this country solely as a 
result of previous surgery, they are utterly unnecessary. I feel deely disturbed 
that we have so lost touch with what caesareans are, and what they're for, that 
we no longer have the appropriate reaction that we would to any other form of 
unnecessary surgery - abhorrence. I don't believe in the "too posh to push" 
label as it obscures what's really happening. Our birthing culture, and the 
discourse around it, is now defined by surgeons and to surgeons, surgery is 
normal. There is avicious nexus of commerce and misogygny, both external 
and internal,that has led us to a point where birthing potential is 
despised and negated. It is inherently pathological to cause deliberate damage 
to a healthy body and completely contrary to the notion of doing no harm. I 
think the language involved in this harmful practice is vital and I feel that 
neither "elective" nor "scheduled" actually describes anything in a genuine 
manner. How about we call it for what it is, and maybe begin to jolt our 
scalpel-complacent society out of thinking that major surgery is just another 
way to give birth? The last obstetric document I read on the language of 
caesarean argued that in truth they should be called hysterotomies. I wonder how 
many of us would line up for something that sounds like that? It's just surgery, 
plain ole, unnecessary surgery.
J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:51 
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  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Scheduled 
  Caesareans...?
  
  
  One of the women in my forums 
  posted this comment which I think is very interesting, while I know there are 
  far too many c/s as is, I think she has a valid point. What do you 
  think?
  
  “I was just 
  thinking that the name 'elective C/S' should be changed to 'scheduled C/S'. So 
  many people don't elect caesareans but have them as a matter of medical 
  necessity and the term elective implies a choice that may not exist and IMO 
  probably contributes to the whole 'too posh to push' perception that alot of 
  people have of scheduled C/S's...”
  
  I know that lots of these 
  scheduled caesarians are probably unnecessary, but of course some 
  aren’t.
  Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  
  ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support