[PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread chargein461
Comrades Removal of Clause 14 (Democratic Centtralism) is suicidal. This is clause encompasses democratic centralism and collective leadership intended to uproot factionalism and ensure unity and cohesion. Its violation does not warrant its removal from Disciplinary Code. Comrades should

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-08 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Dear Smal Zondo The main problem here is that you clowns running the party and hope you will get the PAC progressive. You say Mphahlele is out and I think you suggest the SG is this messiah of whom I am told he is supporting you financially and hence you don't suggest he is not out.

RE: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-08 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu M’Afrika Our understanding of practical actions that must be undertaken to salvage PAC implies that we should forge principled unity by identifying and drawing all those who held and continue to hold PAC membership into one political roof. What will be the rational of excluding

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread Sbusiso Xaba
The Disciplinary Code is a policy not Constitution or a constitutional clause. Therefore, within the Annual National Conference competence. The proposal is not anti democratic centralism. It in fact reinforces it. On Sep 8, 2014 8:07 AM, chargein...@gmail.com wrote: Comrades Removal of Clause

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-08 Thread chargein461
Comrades, People who are genuine about the unity of the Party are not concerned about having unity talks with PAM. Currently, there are ongoing unity talks between PAM and PAC in Eastern Cape and Western Cape. The recent unity talk between PAM and PAC led to PAM members invited to attend

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Sbusiso Xaba Does this mean, you insist those few branches in Tshwane Region are going ahead to attend Moloto (Less than Five) NEC Members grouping Bloemfontein September Conference. When your peers in the PAC are raising the notion that PAC cannot afford parallel and conflicting events

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrade Ndima Since the unbanning of the PAC I have never come cross the PAC being in this pathetic state of affairs especially towards congresses. Even if there were differences in structures and NEC itself our congresses showed maturity of members and NEC towards them. Any normal human

[PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread chargein461
Comrades My point is proposed amendments on Asic Documents can be discussed in a conference but final amendments can only be forwarded to congress for adoption. Constitution stipulates which documents can be adopted in a conference (refer to clause 5.10 of constituton). Amenments to DC are not

Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National Conference

2014-09-08 Thread Sbusiso Xaba
It is nice to hide behind high emotional loaded language. Especially, when wanting to blackmail or intimidate. I will entertain neither emotional blackmail nor attempted intimidation. We are not much interested in personality cults either. Where are these many branches, You're talking about,