RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

[André van Deventer]

Dane

A few points.

I do not know where you get the idea that  induction loop systems are being
phased out.  Definitely not in developing countries.  I will not go further
into this matter as it is beyond the scope of this list.

Jonathan motion stated quite correctly that the most ifficient way to
connect hearing aids to any audio source is by using direct cabling.  Most
wireless systems seem to have latency issues - that is most definitely the
case with  Bluetooth.

Finally - all the hearing aid manufacturers that make hearing aids with
wireless capability make ones without this extra.  However, they have an
induction loop coil in them and  also have the ability to   fit some kind of
adaptor to enable direct audio input.  In developing countries which as far
as I know still comprises most of the world you will find that people wear
the cheaper modelsof hearing aids mostly as this is all that you can get.  I
am very fortunate that I am on a good medical plan which can assist me to
purchase the right equipment.  But this is not the case for most people in
Eastern Europe, South America and Asia.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 11 March 2016 10:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

Okay well Bluetooth is certainly not in the luxury hearing instruments, its
common place in hearing isntruments now as other technologies are being
fazed out such as induction.

I've been using Bluetooth hearing instruments now for over 6 years, they
were bolky affairs at first requiring a whole heap of connection boxes and
adapters but now? Well the typical hearing instruments have Bluetooth built
right into them ready and raring to go.

Other wireless technologies can be used with hearing instruments when
Bluetooth isn't the answer.

As far as Apple not caring about Hearing Instruments? May I suggest you read
the documents on the Web that talk in detail about the commitment and
consideration Apple has given to the users of Hearing Instruments, Deaf and
Deaf-blind people.

I should also point out that we in Australia are extremely fortunate at
present when it comes to hearing instruments as those on a low income can
have their hearing instruments funded which I did at one time though I've
since moved to a private fitter as there is obviously more choice available.



On 11/03/2016 5:49 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> Exactly
>
> How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop
> to such a device?
>
> Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity
> but very few people have the money to purchase them.
>
> But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does
> not really care.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
> DailyMail Online
>
> The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the
> hearing impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on
this topic.
> I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone
jack.
> But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a
> stupid idea at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a
> hair thinner, it is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making
angle for Apple.
> But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing
> segment of the population.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
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Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Chris Skarstad]

For most stuff on the pc, mono is fine. The only time you really need 
stereo recordings these days is if you're out somewhere, and mostly 
people use stereo microphones with a digital recorder, or with the 
iPhone.  The issue with that is sometimes VoiceOver is effected.  But to 
give you a straight answer, anything from Plantronics is pretty decent 
for just recording your voice. Trust me it's a thousand times better 
than those damn apple ear pods. I wouldn't recommend anyone use those 
accept listen to music.  The mic on those is, well, in polite terms, not 
good in the least.




On 3/12/2016 3:43 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

do you recommend any good usb microphones?
stereo recording would be nice but it is not a requirement
Hank
On 3/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If you're on a tight budget a good microphone shouldn't be too hard 
to find that will do a far better job than that in the Apple Earbuds.



On 13/03/2016 7:39 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

because I currently don't have a microphone
I guess I could try to get a microphone app for my android and feed 
it that way in to the line input

thanks
Hank

On 3/12/2016 12:46 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm just curious, why would you want to record from the Microphone 
of a set of Apple Earbuds?


I've never thought much of the microphone in those things even for 
taking pho9ne calls or for chatting.




On 13/03/2016 3:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It 
wil work.


hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, 
March 11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: 
recording using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Dane Trethowan]

If its just general recording - voice - you’re after then the likes of Crane 
had a small microphone for $10 which does that job very well.

A little while ago Crane had it on special for $2.


> On 13 Mar 2016, at 7:43 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>  wrote:
> 
> do you recommend any good usb microphones?
> stereo recording would be nice but it is not a requirement
> Hank
> On 3/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> If you're on a tight budget a good microphone shouldn't be too hard to find 
>> that will do a far better job than that in the Apple Earbuds.
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/03/2016 7:39 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
>>> because I currently don't have a microphone
>>> I guess I could try to get a microphone app for my android and feed it that 
>>> way in to the line input
>>> thanks
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> On 3/12/2016 12:46 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 I'm just curious, why would you want to record from the Microphone of a 
 set of Apple Earbuds?
 
 I've never thought much of the microphone in those things even for taking 
 pho9ne calls or for chatting.
 
 
 
 On 13/03/2016 3:10 AM, ken wrote:
>   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
> You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
> This cable has a mic input and an audio output.
> 
> YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil work.
> 
> hth.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 11, 
> 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording using 
> apple ear pods on windows?
> good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 3.5MM 
> jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
>> Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear pods? 
>> if so how do I accomplish thi?s
>> thanks
>> Hank
>> 
> 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

do you recommend any good usb microphones?
stereo recording would be nice but it is not a requirement
Hank
On 3/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If you're on a tight budget a good microphone shouldn't be too hard to 
find that will do a far better job than that in the Apple Earbuds.



On 13/03/2016 7:39 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

because I currently don't have a microphone
I guess I could try to get a microphone app for my android and feed 
it that way in to the line input

thanks
Hank

On 3/12/2016 12:46 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm just curious, why would you want to record from the Microphone 
of a set of Apple Earbuds?


I've never thought much of the microphone in those things even for 
taking pho9ne calls or for chatting.




On 13/03/2016 3:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil 
work.


hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 
11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: 
recording using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Dane Trethowan]

If you're on a tight budget a good microphone shouldn't be too hard to 
find that will do a far better job than that in the Apple Earbuds.



On 13/03/2016 7:39 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

because I currently don't have a microphone
I guess I could try to get a microphone app for my android and feed it 
that way in to the line input

thanks
Hank

On 3/12/2016 12:46 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm just curious, why would you want to record from the Microphone of 
a set of Apple Earbuds?


I've never thought much of the microphone in those things even for 
taking pho9ne calls or for chatting.




On 13/03/2016 3:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil 
work.


hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 
11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: 
recording using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank










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Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Dane Trethowan]

I'm just curious, why would you want to record from the Microphone of a 
set of Apple Earbuds?


I've never thought much of the microphone in those things even for 
taking pho9ne calls or for chatting.




On 13/03/2016 3:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil work.

hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 
11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording 
using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank





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Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

I am not wanting to do this on a iphone want to hook up the
ear pods to my desktop and use the microphone on the headset
am going to assume that this is not possible then?
if so how do I do this? once again I am not wanting to use this on a iphone
thanks
Hank

On 3/12/2016 10:55 AM, ken wrote:

   The mic jack is all you have on an Iphone.
If you record from your Iphone Plug your recorder in the output side 
of the cable.


If you wand to use the iphone as a recorder, depending  on the level, 
you might have to atenuate.

There is no way to set level in the Iphone.

Also voiceover will be in the way.
.

You would have to go around about and use itunes on your computer to 
transfer to your Iphone.



-Original Message- From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:19 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

Hello
so do I plug it in to the head phone jack or the microphone jack?
or will I have to get the adapter to even use it as a mic?
thanks
Hank


On 3/12/2016 9:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil 
work.


hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 
11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording 
using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[ken]

   The mic jack is all you have on an Iphone.
If you record from your Iphone Plug your recorder in the output side of the 
cable.


If you wand to use the iphone as a recorder, depending  on the level, you 
might have to atenuate.

There is no way to set level in the Iphone.

Also voiceover will be in the way.
.

You would have to go around about and use itunes on your computer to 
transfer to your Iphone.



-Original Message- 
From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:19 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

Hello
so do I plug it in to the head phone jack or the microphone jack?
or will I have to get the adapter to even use it as a mic?
thanks
Hank


On 3/12/2016 9:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil work.

hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 11, 
2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording using 
apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 3.5MM 
jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear pods? 
if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello
so do I plug it in to the head phone jack or the microphone jack?
or will I have to get the adapter to even use it as a mic?
thanks
Hank


On 3/12/2016 9:10 AM, ken wrote:

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil work.

hth.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, March 
11, 2016 10:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording 
using apple ear pods on windows?
good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 
3.5MM jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[ken]

   The Iphone has a two rings a tip and a sleeve.
You can find a special plug in amazon at apple excesories.
This cable has a mic input and an audio output.

YoYou can use a standard  plug powered mic in this input and It wil work.

hth.


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:18 PM 
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows? 

good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 3.5MM 
jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank



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