Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:12 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 26, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: * The symbol and number boxes are 2 px taller in Pd-extended than in Pd-vanilla. I think it is not possible to adjust one or t

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:12 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Oct 26, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > * The symbol and number boxes are 2 px taller in Pd-extended than in > > Pd-vanilla. > > I think it is not possible to adjust one or the other without > > breaking > > back

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 01:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platform

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 01:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > For > > Pd-extended-0.43.1 the number, symbol, message and object boxes are > > 2 px > > less tall on Windows than on the other platforms. > > Ok, I think I fixed it, at leas

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platforms, if I remember correctly, therefore the sizes will have to change somewhere. I made a little test patch and too

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platforms, if I remember correctly, therefore the sizes will have to change somewhere. I made a little test patch and too

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platforms, if I remember correctly, therefore the sizes will have to change somewhere. I made a little test patch and too

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platforms, if I > remember correctly, therefore the sizes will have to change somewhere. I made a little test patch and took screenshots [1]. On three operating systems (Mac O

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: Miller Puckette ; "pd-dev@iem.at" Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance On Oct 21, 2

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: Miller Puckette ; "pd-dev@iem.at" > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance > > > On Oct 21, 2011,

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-22 Thread yvan volochine
On 10/21/2011 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - or, even better, make pd send pd messages to pd-gui instead of Tcl, and move GUI size, mouse, click, etc handling to pd-gui. Then we get zoomable GUIs and all sorts of other good things. Big project tho this would be really neat indeed. do

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Miller Puckette Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance That would be great, to make it really work well

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Miller Puckette > Cc: pd-dev@iem.at > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance > > > That would be great, to make it really work well, we need to move

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That would be great, to make it really work well, we need to move as much of the GUI handling to pd-gui and have pd talk only using pd messages. So something like this: pd-gui -- \ click in a box to edit the text \ edit the text in the box "osc~ 500" \ click on canvas to create the

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Oh -- I misunderstood. I like the idea of making this an option (eitehr growing to the standard box size or huggung the actual size of the font we're getting). cheers Miller On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 07:43:17PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I think we're talking about the box sizes rath

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think we're talking about the box sizes rather than the font sizes. Those can just be hard-coded to a certain size in pixels, then the font can be measured to fit into those boxes. That's the approach that Pd-extended has been doing since 0.41 or 0.40, I forget which. That's how it w

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Last I checked things were completely inconsistent and no version ("normal" or extended) got the same font sizes across platforms. If anyone can figure out how to make that work robustly I'm all for it. One headache is that I've tried to make PD use natively available fonts which everyone will ha

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Oct 21, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Chri

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Hans > >>> > >>> I noticed a significant

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes ar

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 04:58:42PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Looks like the screenshots didn't make it on the email. See the links at the bottom: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2011-10/017657.html Marvin Humphrey ___ Pd-

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 22:24 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I also noticed that Pd-extended-0.43 on OS X does not use anti- aliased

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 22:24 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > I also noticed that Pd-extended-0.43 on OS X does not use anti-aliased > > > fonts, although it is (I think) using T

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes are 2 px higher in Extended than in Vanilla. This is especially problematic in cases where a GOP-patch in Vanilla was

[PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Hans I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes are 2 px higher in Extended than in Vanilla. This is especially problematic in cases where a GOP-patch in Vanilla was created so that the number/symbol box perfectly fits in.