Re: [PD-dev] help with PdLab:w32

2011-11-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-02 16:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:58 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-02 16:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I forced everything in the 'pd

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-30 22:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Having the name SHARED_SOURCE singular highlights that its a single file, which I think it should be. But since its an internal variable, I would be OK with it having a different name. i

Re: [PD-dev] building iemnet on Windows and OS X

2011-10-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-30 20:03, Roman Haefeli wrote: Building iemnet on the Windows build machine still failed: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-30/logs/2011-10-30_03.31.00_mingw32_nt-5.1_windowsxp-i386_pd-extended.txt seems like the

Re: [PD-dev] building iemnet on Windows and OS X

2011-10-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-31 15:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:59 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-30 20:03, Roman Haefeli wrote: Building iemnet on the Windows build machine

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-31 15:35, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You should create some code that solves your issue in your library. Then we'll take it from there. hmm, the diff i posted was a cleaned up diff taken from iem/iemnet/Makefile. the code is

Re: [PD-dev] signal object test template for automated unit testing

2011-10-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-26 19:29, katja wrote: Hello, Here is a .zip with an improved method for unit-testing of signal before the list gets flooded with updates of updates of zip archives with the current installment of the unit-testing framework, how about

Re: [PD-dev] 'tests' section of pure-data/trunk svn?

2011-10-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-24 22:10, Marvin Humphrey wrote: I propose we use the suffix -regressiontest.pd for tests, then we can have a script that crawls the whole pure-data SVN and runs the tests in place with the libraries they are part of. (-test.pd is

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 18:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does it work for you? it seems to work ok. at least the objects are loading (though i get a lot of tcl/tk errors with some of the examples, but i guess that's unrelated to the main problem)

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-18 22:16, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Another idea for handling this is to use the ./configure --enable-double-precision flag, but have it generate a config.h, which is

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes! I got it working. I see the way to use it for this situation, this looks like great news! fgmadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 21:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really understand what you're saying here. it seems so. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 21:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:15 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 21:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really understand what

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-18 05:01, Patrice Colet wrote: then you did something weird :-) i had the same problem after changing CC to CXX and replacing myobject.c with myobject.cpp the template/Makefile is full of assumptions that the sources end with .c;

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-18 05:01, Patrice Colet wrote: Also I still have same question about pd includes, but more accurately... i missed that question :-) gui externals needs m_imp.h, because of this: [...] c_externdir-s_name and c_name-s_name are

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-17 22:27, katja wrote: There's however a small issue to reckon with: at the moment, the only way to force double precision compilation upon the external libs, is to hardcode #define PF_FLOAT_PRECISION 64 in m_pd.h. If we put it in i

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-15 04:08, Patrice Colet wrote: also I've added CXX=g++ because i'm using mingw, and it starts compile :) hmm, what is the default for CXX on mingw? i think it's a bad idea to hardcode the used compiler for no compelling

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-17 17:11, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello IOhannes, all I could say is this: $ make -p -n | grep CXX make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. LINK.cc = $(CXX) $(CXXFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) $(TARGET_ARCH)

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-05 18:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: The logfile I see says its set to: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's -stdlib?

2011-10-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-04 11:19, Roman Haefeli wrote: Applied to standard paths this would lead to the following search order: 1) ~/pd-externals 2) /usr/local/lib/puredata/extra 3) /usr/local/lib/pd/extra 4) /usr/lib/puredata/extra 5) /usr/lib/pd/extra

[PD-dev] where is Pd's -stdlib? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another slight problem with the -stdpath and -stdlib flags for declare (and probably this also expands to the -nostdpath startup flag). following is an excerpt of the discussion in

[PD-dev] w32 PdLab machine down?

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 when i try to login to the machine, i get: Uptime for this computer is 10 [main] gawk 2200 C:\cygwin\bin\gawk.exe: *** fatal error - CreateFileMapping Global\cygwin1S4.cygpid.3780, Win32 error 5. Terminating. and i don't get a shell, which

[PD-dev] w32 PdLab machine broken (was Re: w32 PdLab machine down?)

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 11:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: when i try to login to the machine, i get: Uptime for this computer is 10 [main] gawk 2200 C:\cygwin\bin\gawk.exe: *** fatal error - CreateFileMapping Global\cygwin1S4.cygpid.3780, Win32 error

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 16:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These all sound like good ideas to try. My only concern is that we might let the deployment issues distract from the issues at hand about getting it actually working first. i'm definitely with

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 17:16, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? No, that is what I am saying. It can be closed. But I seem to lack the

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 17:44, katja wrote: Thanks IOhannes for all your comments and suggestions. I just realized that there are several ways in which identical symbols for different function definitions could cause a problem and I did not distinguish

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:00, Charles Henry wrote: Would you prefer to set the types at configure time through a file--or for example by adding a -DDOUBLE compiler flag? The affected locations of code defining the types could just use #ifdef DOUBLE no,

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:04, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: More on actually trying the patch. I tried to apply it to the HEAD of pure-data.git, and one section failed: pd@debian-lenny-i386 src $ patch -p1

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really know why this is happening, but I do know that the ./autogen.sh in pure-data.git and pd-extended.git works everywhere since it is used in the builds every night. Why not just

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 19:19, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really know why this is happening, but I do know that the ./autogen.sh in pure-data.git and pd-extended.git works everywhere since

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Roman, I just saw this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/Makefile?r1=15393r2=15397 .la files generally should not be installed, that makes

Re: [PD-dev] remove all .la (libtool archives) files created by autotools

2011-09-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-29 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What is the problem this is trying to solve? How are the .la files causing problems ? The Pd-extended is crufty enough as it is with lots of kludges like this that I'm mostly responsible for.

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-26 23:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: My guess is that it'll be something like this: #ifdef _WIN32 PATH #elif defined(__APPLE__) DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH #else LD_LIBRARY_PATH #endif i would go for something with less

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-09-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://cocoaconvert.net/2009/08/02/frameworks-with-private-frameworks/ fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [PD-dev] iemguts release?

2011-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-26 14:14, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, I think iemguts is ready primetime, I think it should be included in the next Pd-extended 0.43 release. Do you have any

Re: [PD-dev] Creating an external / sinewave equation example

2011-09-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-09-10 03:42, Rick T wrote: # Makefile # (c) 2006 IOhannes m zmölnig oh, where did you get that one from? nowadays, i would recommend using the Makefile template as found in externals/template (i should change the build system in

Re: [PD-dev] Tabread/write on array bigger than 16777216 points

2011-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-13 14:20, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Before going further (tabread~, tabread4,...) I wanted to know if someone has already done something similar or if you have advices on names and behavior. i think thomas musil did something like a

Re: [PD-dev] Tabread/write on array bigger than 16777216 points

2011-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-13 15:30, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Le 13/07/11 14:29, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-13 14:20, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Before going further (tabread~, tabread4,...) I

Re: [PD-dev] Tabread/write on array bigger than 16777216 points

2011-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-13 19:31, katja wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:51 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: the idea is to make double the standard for Pd in the future. if nobody spents time for that it will never happen. I'd like to help

Re: [PD-dev] struct _canvasenvironment

2011-07-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-13 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, Why is struct _canvasenvironment in g_canvas.c instead of g_canvas.h? I want to take a t_object inside g_text.c and-- if it's an abstraction-- get its name and dir. I can get the name but

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 19:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That makes me think so ./configure is finding libdl find, and then setting HAVE_LIBDL, and then the code in s_loader.c is going to do both HAVE_LIBDL and the MSW section below it. So I

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3307639 ] updated FR localization

2011-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 23:20, SourceForge.net wrote: Message: Ok, I added this to Pd-extended. Be very careful to not copy things that are not being translated. I.e. if DSP is going to remain DSP, then it should look like this: msgid DSP msgstr

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-02 13:01, Patrice Colet wrote: I've found the odd part of that page is that they use LTLIBRARIES variable while pd/src/Makefile.am doesn't. does this mean that you have had no success with the dummy.cpp file (output?) or that you

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4avYkACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTwPACeOmrqMSLAdz/YA+68e4zgWYHO cZcAn32FOZOtnyIsGBoDfSDq/xYwwFFX =Djnx -END PGP SIGNATURE- From 18878d89cfe3b02ff2649b48b6a9902fd1d0a4de Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:00:21 +0200

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 17:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: We have the opposite problem than that automake hack is trying to solve. When ASIO is including, then everything including portaudio is built and linked using g++. Portaudio fails to build with

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 19:02, Patrice Colet wrote: - Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : The problem I'm encountering on win32 with makefile.am is that pd.dll is not built if I add this: if WINDOWS LIBS += -lwsock32 -lwinmm

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ola, On 2011-06-27 21:21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here's the files in puredata-doc: http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/puredata-doc/filelist in case this has gone unnoticed, i wanted to point out, that currently the reference-patches

Re: [PD-dev] revised search-plugin.tcl

2011-06-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-21 02:13, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How does one tell the difference? i think the idea is to segregrate based on the paths libraries are installed to. usually there are directories where you need suprt-user rights to write to. whenever

Re: [PD-dev] New externals

2011-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-29 21:40, András Murányi wrote: use [speedlim] from... err, it's included in iemlib, maxlib and cyclone, and or write one yourself. it takes about 6 basic objects. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5

2011-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-30 12:00, pd-cvs-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 07:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: p...@macosx104-powerpc.idmi.poly.edu (Pd User) Subject: [PD-cvs] autobuild: pd-extended macosx104-powerpc 1970-01-01 03.15.05

Re: [PD-dev] Pointers changing/corrupting (used to be signal nan values)

2011-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-04-27 12:08, Andrew Hassall wrote: Anyone have any ideas why the pointer would change so dramatically? Is it being corrupted? if so any ideas what by? do you mind sharing the complete code? and an unrelated issue with your code: you

Re: [PD-dev] Pointers changing/corrupting (used to be signal nan values)

2011-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-04-27 13:17, Andrew Hassall wrote: No thats fine, I've attached both c files. (they are a bit messy at the moment due to debugging and tearing them apart sorry, if you need cleaner commented code I can comment it up no problem) a quick

Re: [PD-dev] Pointers changing/corrupting (used to be signal nan values)

2011-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 some more comments, to fill in the gaps: On 2011-04-27 13:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: a quick glance at lpcanalysis_tilde_new() reveils, that you are allocating data on the stack (which will be freed as soon as you leave lpcanalysis_tilde_new

Re: [PD-dev] Pointers changing/corrupting (used to be signal nan values)

2011-04-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-04-27 18:09, Andrew Hassall wrote: When allocating memory with getbytes how do you refer to it as an array? I can't seem to set values in the allocated memory using *(mybytes+index) like normal. as long as you only have one-dimensional

[PD-dev] svn: let's move pdgui-plugins

2011-02-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 right now the gui-plugins in our svn-repository live in /trunk/scripts/guiplugins/ i find this most unfortunate, since a) the other scripts in the /trunk/scripts/ section are mainly concerned with build-systems and the like, and could thus be

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-23 21:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems to me the way to really do this would be to have post() and logpost() find out the calling object instance on its own, if that's possible. Then it would automatically apply to all

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-22 23:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This would be very nice, I could see being about to double-click any line in the log and have it pop up which object made the log message. I won't have time to implement this in the foreseeable

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-23 09:05, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-02-22 23:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This would be very nice, I could see being about to double-click any line in the log and have it pop up which object made the log message. I

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-22 07:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So how about this: - keep verbose() as it is - add logpost(level, message) to both Tcl and C - change ::pdwindow::post to mirror the C post() i.e. remove level - remove ::pdwindow::fatal,

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-16 04:53, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you remember why those incr 4 and level+4 are there to begin yes, so that verbose(0, is not the same as error( with? I think removing that is the best solution, the duplication should be

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-15 01:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hmm, this might be the problem, in doverbose(): sys_vgui(::pdwindow::post %d {%s}\n, level+4, strnescape(upbuf, s, MAXPDSTRING)); Why is there level+4? Why not just pass level straight

Re: [PD-dev] status of verbose() in 0.43?

2011-02-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-15 16:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I get the ranked levels, that stuff make sense. I am wondering about the algorithm. In both C and Tcl, the verbose() posting is adding 4 to the level value, so that means if people are doing

[PD-dev] sourceforge cleanup

2011-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, i want to inform you, that i have done a routine cleanup of our developers at sourceforge. 18 people, who have not committed anything within the last two (2) years, were contacted on the 2011-01-20 (that was also the deadline for the 2 years

Re: [PD-dev] 64bit linux compiling issue

2011-01-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-01-24 19:57, Felix Pfeifer wrote: Hi, Here is what i did: I compiled pd-extended-0.42.5 on a 64bit slackware linux. Everything seemed to work fine until i try to run then i would say it is _not_ a compilation issue. pdextended. I

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-13 17:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: From what I've seen, most network buffering is done with a ring buffer, so a fixed size. That's my two bits... flames so what exactly are you trying to tell us? one of the reasons for me to change my entire system and to switch to Pd was

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-13 23:15, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:42 -0500, Martin wrote: What? It's better to crash the server than to disconnect an unresponsive client? Why crashing the server? I don't get the alarmism. If a patch needs to i think martin commented on my if you rather go

Re: [PD-dev] removing non-free code from pure-data SVN

2010-12-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-08 21:37, Xavier Miller wrote: Hello, . So, yes, please list ALL the licences which are included in PD/PD-extended, especially those that are not compatible with common Open Source / Free licences ! At least users need to know they use non-free parts of software, and use it

Re: [PD-dev] removing non-free code from pure-data SVN

2010-12-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-09 16:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: First off, I need to say I think Yves' code is great and very useful, and he's doing important work that no one else is currently doing. This has nothing to do with that. Yves changed his license to a non-free license, which he is free to

Re: [PD-dev] general makefile question

2010-12-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-01 22:38, Bryan Jurish wrote: moin folks, On 2010-12-01 18:00:21, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at appears to have written: what is the canonical way to use the passed FLAGS and at the same time adding whatever is needed? something like 'PD_LDFLAGS=-Wl,--export-dynamic

Re: [PD-dev] general makefile question

2010-12-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-01 23:56, Albert Graef wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: however, afaict, CFLAGS and LDFLAGS are commonly meant to be settable by the user, so setting those should not break the build system. Exactly. Therefore a Makefile should *not* set CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, LDFLAGS and the like, or

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-01 03:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I call mrpeach/net canonical not because I believe is it perfect and bugfree, but rather because it is the established, proven way of doing more elaborate networking. i think it is not canonical as it tends to change it's API to workaround

[PD-dev] general makefile question

2010-12-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
during the debian packaging of externals i once more stumbled across one of my many problems with make, which i was never able to solve in a satisfactory way. it is: the Makefile uses CFLAGS and LDFLAGS to set crucial flags to the build process e.g. LDFLAGS uses -Wl,--export-dynamic -shared to

Re: [PD-dev] Where to report issues with 0.43 development branch?

2010-11-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-30 11:43, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi If people are supposed to already report bugs with the current dev (0.43) branch, where should they do so? i'd say here or at the sf-tracker. Is this the correct place to get most recent sources from:

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-29 18:36, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It is OK IMHO to have iemnet use the names as the mrpeach objects as long as the stated goal is interface compatibility. But I think this packaging idea is just added complication without and real benefit. A library is a library in Debian

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-10 22:06, Roman Haefeli wrote: In the case of iemmatrix (and also zexy, which actually already is packaged as a multi-object-single-file library in Debian, but as a one-object-one-file library in Pd-extended) and assuming that there won't be any intelligent loader loader soon,

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-11 10:07, Roman Haefeli wrote: pd-iemmatrix: generic single-file library depending on the metapackage 'pd'. pdextended-iemmatrix: dedicated iemmatrix package for Pd-extended, dependent on 'pd-extendeded', compiled as one-object-per-file library. What do

[PD-dev] some late 0.43 patches...

2010-10-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi miller, list... i hear you are busy doing some bugfixing for the 0.43 release with hans... working on the integra-live project i noticed a number of problems with the portaudio support in Pd, some of them being real showstoppers (read: they crash Pd) i submitted a number of patches to

[PD-dev] autotools on MinGW/MSYS

2010-09-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-14 17:42, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i believe the patch i attached to the ticket to solve the problem but have not been able to test on the very platform. ok, i managed to log in, and my patch indeed solves the reported problem. however, there are more issues, coming from

Re: [PD-dev] using the MSYS and Cygwin shells on the PdLab server

2010-09-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-15 15:25, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm cc'ing pd-dev so others may benefit from this. There is nothing magic about the files in Cygwin and MSYS, they are all on the same file system. The problem is each system has its own root path: sure. * in MSYS, its /c ha, i didn't

Re: [PD-dev] autotools on MinGW/MSYS

2010-09-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-15 15:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: if we need a c++-aware linker, then we should ask for a c++-aware linker (rather than force a c++ compiler). afaik, automake can handle this with a 1-liner. Try building with the ASIO sources, which are C++ and need to be built i have

Re: [PD-dev] autotools on MinGW/MSYS

2010-09-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-15 15:56, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-09-15 15:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: if we need a c++-aware linker, then we should ask for a c++-aware linker (rather than force a c++ compiler). afaik, automake can handle this with a 1-liner. Try building with the ASIO

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3065532 ] [bugfix] autotools on MinGW/MSYS

2010-09-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-14 11:30, SourceForge.net wrote: Message: i see the problem, but fail to understand why the chaining does not stop the entire build. i guess that the call to aclocal fails, but why autogen.sh then returns TRUE is beyond my understanding. it seems like i cannot log into the

Re: [PD-dev] packaging loaders for Debian

2010-09-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-06 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Why do you think having the ability to autoload loaders is a bad idea? I can't see a disadvantage, but I am not saying there couldn't be one. I would like to see it be possible to write Pd objects in a bunch of different langauges, then

Re: [PD-dev] packaging loaders for Debian

2010-09-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-06 17:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Why do you think having the ability to autoload loaders is a bad idea? I can't see a disadvantage, but I am not saying there couldn't be one. i can't think of one, but that doesn't mean that there is none. my main point was, that in

Re: [PD-dev] 0.43 startup procedure and vwait WAS: [PATCH 06/10] fixed race-condition in the audio/midi API initialization

2010-09-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-01 06:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I refactored the startup/vwait code to be close to the pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 startup procedure, but I removed the timeout that I think was at the root of the problems here. I'll put together a patch once I test it a bit more. i wouldn't

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends

2010-08-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-25 19:16, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Also, if you roll too many of your own in Pd, you end up doing so at the expense of portability. I don't want to send a library of my hacks to standard objects with every patch I show to someone else. the implementation i attached in my last

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-25 19:16, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: ever tried to delay destroying an object? With mouse and cut messages, yes. With your objects, no. What happens? you are talking about a completely different thing than i am. so let's reset this discussion to my original example. it's

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-24 22:17, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'd love to see an example of this in action. Just from your description I'm wondering why you wouldn't do the fade from inside the abstraction, and just delay destroying it until the fade out has finished. ever tried to delay destroying an

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-3052690 ] new build system does not build 'extra' files in place

2010-08-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-25 05:36, SourceForge.net wrote: Priority: 7 hi. while i have tried to quickly fix the given problem, i would like to raise the question, whether somebody could give me an example bug report with a priority of e.g. 3. i guess the reason to raise the priority, is to get it into Pd

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-23 19:10, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Btw-- in your live-coding example you mentioned you were sending the audio to a bus and would use [initbang] to fade in. But how do you use [closebang] to fade out? Does [closebang] send a trigger to one of the sister abstractions to do the

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-24 05:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: or use [constructorbang] and [destructorbang] [createbang] and [destroybang] is a nice pair. :) yes, but they have 2 drawbacks: - the seem to be actors rather than reactors; e.g. i would expect [destroybang] to destroy something, rather

Re: [PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-23 17:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, we definitely don't want [initbang] to be used too often, I can i would also like to state, that we shouldn't use [metro] too often. reversely, one cannot use [trigger] too often. so Pd should print out a warning if there is no [t] in

Re: [PD-dev] dynamic patching: getting info on objects

2010-08-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-19 07:14, Ted Hayes wrote: Following up on this—doesn't look like anything in iemguts will help. Basically I need either 1) A way to generate a list (once) of all object names, number of inlets and outlets or 2) A way to output the number of inlets and outlets for a given

Re: [PD-dev] including more headers in 'make install'

2010-08-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-04 21:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I've packaged up a bunch of libraries as pd packages, and they rely on headers besides just m_pd.h. These headers should be included in the 'make install' so that people can easily build them. I think we should install these headers into

[PD-dev] [PATCH] headers into ${includedir}/pd/

2010-08-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
in order to not pollute /usr/include/ with files like s_stuff.h and to prevent name-clashes with other packages, headers should go into a special subdirectory. make install installs headers into ${includedir}/pd to make this directory findeable, this also includes pkg-config support ---

[PD-dev] automake in git (was: uploading Pd git repository to sourceforge)

2010-07-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
here is a patch for current git that should make the automake functional again. note: when doing a make install, the pd binary only get's installed into /usr/local/bin/pd (by default) and not into /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd; this is not a problem unless you try to start Pd from the gui-side (pd-gui

Re: [PD-dev] [PATCH] made automake system kind-of work

2010-07-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-07-15 16:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: if you remove all makefiles in 'extra' you can replace it with the extra/Makefile from pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 which builds all objects in 'extra'. It has the added advantage of working on GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, MinGW and Cygwin, plus is

Re: [PD-dev] automake in git

2010-07-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-07-15 16:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That rather tedious enumeration is something that rarely changes and provides error checking where automatic enumeration does not. A build system should know if any of the relevant files are missing, and it should ignore all non-relevant

Re: [PD-dev] uploading Pd git repository to sourceforge

2010-07-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-07-12 05:33, Miller Puckette wrote: o Pd developers -- After much uncertainty how to proceed, I finally went ahead and 'pushed' my Pd git repository to sourceforgs -- available at http://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=pure-data/pure-data or to clone it to your

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