Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
OK, recomiled with a 64-bit Wish... still runs OK in Wine, hoping it doesn't break anything out in the wild :) http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/pd-0.51-3test5-build2.msw.zip http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/pd-0.51-3test5.windows-installer-build2.exe There was no change to the source tree - I just recompiled the tcltk package which I stash elsewhere. M On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 07:02:21PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > > > On Nov 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:03:59 +0100 > > From: IOhannes m zm??lnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> > > To: pd-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> > > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released > > Message-ID: <33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at > > <mailto:33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Am 3. November 2020 15:37:38 MEZ schrieb Dan Wilcox > <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: > >> Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. > > > > sorry for being dumb, but: why? > > Why not? > > > I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between > > Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? > > I would say yes. > > > afaict the problem lucarda is describing comes mostly from the fact that > > wish.exe and pdfontloader.dll have different archs. (or is this what you > > were saying). > > Yes, that's what I was saying. If previous versions of the windows 64 bit > build worked fine with a 64 bit pdfontloader, then it's because Pd game with > a 64 bit tk, so it follows that is what's needed in this case. > > > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!Sw6dTbEZk-rg-X6Eb5YWoEtdw6fdPWWxyV018QsZkvox_yYqEw706kSugPru$ > > > danomatika.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!Sw6dTbEZk-rg-X6Eb5YWoEtdw6fdPWWxyV018QsZkvox_yYqEw706qUZbabw$ > > > robotcowboy.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!Sw6dTbEZk-rg-X6Eb5YWoEtdw6fdPWWxyV018QsZkvox_yYqEw706mNI8qNY$ > > > > > > ___ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev@lists.iem.at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev__;!!Mih3wA!Sw6dTbEZk-rg-X6Eb5YWoEtdw6fdPWWxyV018QsZkvox_yYqEw706uHSlNmy$ > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? I would say yes. Obviously, the wish app can have a different architecture than the core. The only requirement is that the pdfontloader library has the same architecture as the wish app. But I agree it's good practice not to mix 64-bit and 32-bit software within a single application, unless there are compelling reasons. Christof On 03.11.2020 19:02, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Nov 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: Message: 2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:03:59 +0100 From: IOhannes m zmölnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> To:pd-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released Message-ID: <33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at <mailto:33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Am 3. November 2020 15:37:38 MEZ schrieb Dan Wilcox mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. sorry for being dumb, but: why? Why not? I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? I would say yes. afaict the problem lucarda is describing comes mostly from the fact that wish.exe and pdfontloader.dll have different archs. (or is this what you were saying). Yes, that's what I was saying. If previous versions of the windows 64 bit build worked fine with a 64 bit pdfontloader, then it's because Pd game with a 64 bit tk, so it follows that is what's needed in this case. Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
> On Nov 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:03:59 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zmölnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> > To: pd-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released > Message-ID: <33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at > <mailto:33e1d9d9-d44a-46de-b598-b6dd3b49e...@iem.at>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Am 3. November 2020 15:37:38 MEZ schrieb Dan Wilcox <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: >> Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. > > sorry for being dumb, but: why? Why not? > I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between > Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? I would say yes. > afaict the problem lucarda is describing comes mostly from the fact that > wish.exe and pdfontloader.dll have different archs. (or is this what you were > saying). Yes, that's what I was saying. If previous versions of the windows 64 bit build worked fine with a 64 bit pdfontloader, then it's because Pd game with a 64 bit tk, so it follows that is what's needed in this case. Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
People have gotten confused int the past because the "app" has a different architecture from reality... I think it's best if I go ahead and recompile the new Wish for 64 bits and offer each with its own. cheers Miller On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 06:03:59PM +0100, IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: > Am 3. November 2020 15:37:38 MEZ schrieb Dan Wilcox : > > Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. > > sorry for being dumb, but: why? > > I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between > Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? > > afaict the problem lucarda is describing comes mostly from the fact that > wish.exe and pdfontloader.dll have different archs. (or is this what you were > saying). > > > mfg.hft.fsl > IOhannes > > > ___ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev@lists.iem.at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev__;!!Mih3wA!TurprBlVoo4klyPDL2uqiLyIZ54ak9aNCjtVbakZdvY2_ofenf2Law8S4MJl$ > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
Am 3. November 2020 15:37:38 MEZ schrieb Dan Wilcox : > Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. sorry for being dumb, but: why? I agree that its probably preferred to have matching architectures between Pd-core and Pd-GUI, but is it a requirement? afaict the problem lucarda is describing comes mostly from the fact that wish.exe and pdfontloader.dll have different archs. (or is this what you were saying). mfg.hft.fsl IOhannes ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
Main point is that the 64 bit build needs the 64 bit Tk. > On Nov 3, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 04:43:42 -0300 > From: Lucas Cordiviola mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>> > To: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> > Cc: pd-dev mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released > Message-ID: > > > <mailto:mwhpr22mb0864b7eae3380c7412622c01a6...@mwhpr22mb0864.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Miller, > > On Windows 64bit builds starting from Pd 0.51.3-test2 you have switched > tcl/tk-8.6.8(64bit) to 8.6.10(32bit). > > Was it intentional to change the arch? > > Pdfontloader.dll (64bit) has stopped loading and Pd falls-back to > courier font. Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released
Hi Miller, On Windows 64bit builds starting from Pd 0.51.3-test2 you have switched tcl/tk-8.6.8(64bit) to 8.6.10(32bit). Was it intentional to change the arch? Pdfontloader.dll (64bit) has stopped loading and Pd falls-back to courier font. -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 11/3/2020 12:54 AM, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce wrote: Ok... test 5 now. Improved Mac 10.15 permission stuff and some more bug fixes. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ pd-l...@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
