Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I've recently been working with 80MHz machines that don't even have FPUs, so I also care about ld machines. (These little computers are known as iPods). One thing that is definitely worth trying is to update to the latest version of Tcl/Tk. They have

[PD] help

2009-05-26 Thread Farhood Kolahian
Hi all, I work with pd in vista. since a week pd doesn't run anymore cuz every time I open pd I got the message that pd.exe has stopped working and windows can check online for a solution to the problem, so it will closed and next time the same message. I tried to run it in safe mode and it only

Re: [PD] help

2009-05-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Farhood Kolahian wrote: Hi all, I work with pd in vista. since a week pd doesn't run anymore cuz every time I open pd I got the message that pd.exe has stopped working and windows can check online for a solution to the problem, so it will to give us a better idea of what is going on, it

[PD] June 1 performance in London

2009-05-26 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
If you are in London next Monday this performance (where I'm doing the music using, mostly, Pd) may be of interest: Ukiyo [Moveable World] by dap-lab / dans sans joux A choreographic installation fusing dance, sound, design and digital projections Monday, June 1, 19:ooAntoni Artaud

[PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread t'es in t'es bat
Hello, I plug a dv camera on a usb converter I can get the picture but no sound in xawtv In pd i got this message when i try to open /dev/video0 pdp_v4l: picture: brightness 32896 depth 16 palette 8 pdp_v4l: channel 0 name Television type 1 flags 1 pdp_v4l: channel 1 name Composite1 type 2 flags

[PD] spatial - hrft

2009-05-26 Thread Christian M. Fischer
hi there! did anbody built anything to do spatialization of a monofile? with azimuth, like hrtf stuff? please let me know if there is something allready out there. thanks! cmf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] spatial - hrft

2009-05-26 Thread David Doukhan
Hi. I did an external that wil be presented at the PDCONV. Right now, I only released a version Compiled for Windows, that requires Visual Studio express (free) to be installed on your machine: You can try it at http://perso.epita.fr/~doukha_d/CW_binaural~.zip . Let me know if you got any question

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, you should send 'channel 1' before 'open /dev/video0 but i don't understand what is your device here, a usb capture card? hauptv? ciao, sevy t'es in t'es bat wrote: Hello, I plug a dv camera on a usb converter I can get the picture but no sound in xawtv In pd i got this message when i

[PD] [OT] [andquitestupid] Re: [PD-announce] Markov chains on footils.org

2009-05-26 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:17:19 +0200 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: there's a new little Pd tutorial online on footils.org, this time it deals with Markov chains: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2009/may/23/markov-chains-pure-data/ On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 09:23:57PM +0100, Andy

Re: [PD] [OT] [andquitestupid] Re: [PD-announce] Markov chains onfootils.org

2009-05-26 Thread padawan12
Signal conditioner with volumising action and Nutramide? I think you're onto something there Chris. In my fast paced salon and catwalk lifestyle I need a product that actually CARES for my my waveforms. On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:17:19 +0200 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: there's a

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread danomatika
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 09:07 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i am still pretty convinced that tcl/tk is not the buster, so replacing it by someting more performant will only give you little help. the problem comes from how Pd(-core) communicates with the Pd-gui; and that Pd(-core) needs a

Re: [PD] spatial - hrft

2009-05-26 Thread Christian M. Fischer
Hi, and thanks! Well, earplug~ on winXP makes Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080721 crash at once. On Mac 10.4.11 Pd version 0.40.3-extended earplug~ is there but with no helpfile. So I don't exactely get what it does and how it works. Visual Studio Express has four parts: Visual C#, Visual

Re: [PD] spatial - hrft

2009-05-26 Thread Christian M. Fischer
I tried and it workes quite well! Thanks! cmf Nicholas Mariette schrieb: Or there's IEM Bin_Ambi. Downloadable for windows from http://iem.at/Members/noisternig/bin_ambi Or I believe it's available in Pd extended, although it takes some work to put it together. It's a sophisticated and

Re: [PD] spatial - hrft

2009-05-26 Thread David Doukhan
you should install visual C++. the reason is because the external I compiled is dependent of visual studio runtime libraries for now. I'll do sometthing cleaner soon. 2009/5/26 Christian M. Fischer m...@c-m-fischer.de: Hi, and thanks! Well, earplug~ on winXP makes Pd version

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Michal Seta
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: So your suggestion is to scrap all of this and use minimal objects again? What is this? 1999? I think that, pd's inefficiencies aside, if you are developing for embedded devices with limited computing resources, you should

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread chris clepper
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I've been running pd on my slow wearable (500Mhz) and, over the last year, the performance has gotten worse. This trend coincides with my greater understanding of pd and adoption of nice GOP guis. The first live video

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread danomatika
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 08:34 -0400, chris clepper wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I've been running pd on my slow wearable (500Mhz) and, over the last year, the performance has gotten worse. This trend coincides with my

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread chris clepper
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:53 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm definitely learning this. I do enjoy the creative limitations actually, it's just that things ran so much better a year ago with Ubuntu Hardy + Pd-extended 0.39 ... Perhaps I'm at the point where I just need to

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread danomatika
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 08:33 -0400, Michal Seta wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: So your suggestion is to scrap all of this and use minimal objects again? What is this? 1999? I think that, pd's inefficiencies aside, if you are developing for

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of patching as opposed to vsts, etc. You have to build form the ground up. Well, Pd is a programming language, and as with all language,

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of patching as opposed to vsts, etc. You have to build form the

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
Am 26.05.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Chris McCormick: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of patching as

[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know,

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
Am 26.05.2009 um 15:04 schrieb danomatika: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of patching as opposed to vsts, etc. You have to build form the ground up. i don't fully understand, why you feel forced to program in a

Re: [PD] MinGW/Windows work session - tomorrow, Tuesday 5/18

2009-05-26 Thread august
after a brief look at glib's configure.ac, it looks to me like the glib - pkg-config dependency isn't really one, and could be fixed by some judicious use of 'dnl' (m4 comment-ization) in glib/configure.ac. Which binary did you use? Is there an 'official' MinGW one? I second the

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force me to work it's way but allow me to work my way. That's the beauty of patching as

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 3:07 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I've recently been working with 80MHz machines that don't even have FPUs, so I also care about ld machines. (These little computers are known as iPods). One thing that is definitely worth trying is

Re: [PD] MinGW/Windows work session - tomorrow, Tuesday 5/18

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 12:30 PM, august wrote: after a brief look at glib's configure.ac, it looks to me like the glib - pkg-config dependency isn't really one, and could be fixed by some judicious use of 'dnl' (m4 comment-ization) in glib/configure.ac. Which binary did you use? Is there

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread t'es in t'es bat
hello; 3fois hello, i find the solution the driver which work is v4l2 it give a good result with Xawtv and also with pdp_v4l2 i'm so happy That 's a way to get the pictures from a dv camorder, because the pdp_ieee1394 don't work for me. And... You can make very good glitch in real time with the

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I agree that the communications are a big part of it. Part of writing a custom GUI would be to write a simple communications to suit the needs at hand. But I think that the slowness in Pd's GUI is not even that much due to communications, but rather how

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread danomatika
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:05 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: And Dan, I also share your frustration with the common attitude on this list of it is what it is. That's why I am working on re- writing the Pd GUI from scratch in pure Tcl with the aim of making it use Tcl/Tk is a clean

Re: [PD] [OT] [andquitestupid] Re: [PD-announce] Markov chains on footils.org

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:17:19 +0200 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: there's a new little Pd tutorial online on footils.org, this time it deals with Markov chains: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2009/may/23/markov-chains-pure-data/

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 1:52 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I agree that the communications are a big part of it. Part of writing a custom GUI would be to write a simple communications to suit the needs at hand. But I think that the slowness in Pd's GUI is

Re: [PD] MinGW/Windows work session - tomorrow, Tuesday 5/18

2009-05-26 Thread august
this is where I got the glib and pkg-config http://www.gtk.org/download-windows.html I found that link here: http://wiki.videolan.org/Win32CompileMSYSNew Might be other useful binaries there too. I started out making the Pd MiNGW build system like this, a wiki

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 2:13 PM, danomatika wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:05 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: And Dan, I also share your frustration with the common attitude on this list of it is what it is. That's why I am working on re- writing the Pd GUI from scratch in pure Tcl with

Re: [PD] MinGW/Windows work session - tomorrow, Tuesday 5/18

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 26, 2009, at 2:37 PM, august wrote: this is where I got the glib and pkg-config http://www.gtk.org/download-windows.html I found that link here: http://wiki.videolan.org/Win32CompileMSYSNew Might be other useful binaries there too. I started out making the Pd

Re: [PD] run pd as admin under vista (was: help)

2009-05-26 Thread mrz
hello, when pd works in safe mode, I guess your pd runs with admin rights. so try to run pd with right-click -- run as administrator. When pd works now, you can turn off this security lock completely:

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go

Re: [PD] bug in gemlist object?

2009-05-26 Thread Doug Taylor
Hi Cyrille - Thanks for your feedback on the gemlist object. I tried your suggestiojn and I can confirm that it is the gemlist object that crashes Pd (in Windoze). Attached is mt patch which you could perhaps test in yr Linux environment and see if you have the same problem. Regards On Mon,

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Which package is that? Did you try this release? .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May

Re: [PD] bug in gemlist object?

2009-05-26 Thread cyrille henry
hello, no problem here with this patch. did you try the one i send you? Cyrille Doug Taylor a écrit : Hi Cyrille - Thanks for your feedback on the gemlist object. I tried your suggestiojn and I can confirm that it is the gemlist object that crashes Pd (in Windoze). Attached is mt patch

Re: [PD] bug in gemlist object?

2009-05-26 Thread Georg Werner
Hi Doug, on my winxp machine i dont have any problems neither with the helppatch nor with yours. which versions of pd and gem are you using? i use 0.41.4-extended-20090509 with the included GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Jan 22 2009 best g. Doug Taylor schrieb: Hi Cyrille -

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 package for Fedora available at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Which package is that?  Did you try this release? .hc On May 26,

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package included in Fedora. - could you post a screenshot? - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed? - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996: if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 04:30:24PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, danomatika hat gesagt: // danomatika wrote: My point is, I wish pd didn't force

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread t'es in t'es bat
HELLO, Yes i find the solution in pdp_v4l2 for a normal use... it works. And with pdp_v4l i get a good glitch process... But pdp_ieee1394 don't work for me maybe it's the next step. I get no message when i connect the cam but it's maybe in ubuntu because there is dropping frame in dv1394 i find

Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 25, 2009, at 9:17 PM, danomatika wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 21:09 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Another thing to try is writing the GUI in a toolkit that is optimized for speed. I don't know if you have a GPU, but if you wrote Pd GUI objects using something like togl or

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread t'es in t'es bat
hello, yes i try many possibilities of pd and right now i succed to making work a 4 screen ubuntu computer with rendering on every screen... A tool for live set... How can i be root to use pdp_ieee1394 I'd just launch pd with a gksudo ??? thanks david -- TNTB t'es in t'es bat 7 place Favier

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this: set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread Husk 00
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:11 AM, t'es in t'es bat tesintes...@gmail.comwrote: hello, yes i try many possibilities of pd and right now i succed to making work a 4 screen ubuntu computer with rendering on every screen... A tool for live se... cool! How can i be root to use pdp_ieee1394

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread João Pais
for what's worth: I'm on a sensitive moment now (final stretch to audio-video performance next sunday in salamanca). I can look at this after that, though. are the most actual versions on the nightly builds? 2009/5/26 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I think this is basically ready to go

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Tom Dunstan
Thanks Hans This is really amazing and has been a great help. t On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything

Re: [PD] pidid and a camera dv/via usb converter on ubuntu

2009-05-26 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
Husk 00 wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:11 AM, t'es in t'es bat tesintes...@gmail.com mailto:tesintes...@gmail.com wrote: hello, yes i try many possibilities of pd and right now i succed to making work a 4 screen ubuntu computer with rendering on every screen... A tool

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a configuration window where the

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small .hc On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in

[PD] [PD-announce] Inscripciones Abiertas: Taller de Algoritmia Junio 2009 (Santiago, Chile)

2009-05-26 Thread Correa Diego
Resumen: La orientación del taller es la integración de conocimientos prácticos de medios musicales, electrónicos, informáticos y matemáticos para la formulación de proyectos estéticos. Los participantes deberán imaginar un cauce de acción con las herramientas entregadas en cada módulo, para

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Matt Barber
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me). This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still.