Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming language! I'd be much more comfortable creating my patches using, for example,

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:04:18AM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
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Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread João Pais
there's also pdlua, which is much easier to build than py. if you want to learn lua, it works well. the package brings some example patches. http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/cm/2008-06-19_pdlua-0.5_released.html HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However,

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 07:35, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming language!

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Andrew Faraday
Same synthesis capabilities, chuck or supercollider (less real-time, csound)Similar graphic capabilities... Processing Although I've got to agree. once you've gotten over infamiliarity the data-flow interface of Pd is definately one of it's greatest strengths. As with any language you've got

Re: [PD] Maybe I'm pushing dynamic object creation too far

2011-02-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 23:25 +, Ed Kelly wrote: On 2011-02-02 01:00, Ed Kelly wrote: I get dropouts, regardless of the jack buffer size/buffers number. Is this because the dynamic creation of a new object interrupts the pd audio stream? If so, can this be alleviated -

[PD] dynamic abstraction initialization

2011-02-03 Thread Andrew Faraday
Hey List I've been playing around recently with dynamic object creation for instances of abstractions. Only trouble is if I use an argument as a variable box (eg [$1]) it seems not to initialize the actual system on creating the abstraction. for instance, I might have something like

Re: [PD] dynamic abstraction initialization

2011-02-03 Thread ailo
I don't know why loadbangs don't bang on dynamic creation, but I solve it by having a receive for the bang instead. Create patch - send bang to it. On 02/03/2011 11:52 AM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Hey List I've been playing around recently with dynamic object creation for instances of

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:06:21AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 09:37, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: You can write plug-in scripts in Tcl/Tk. Since 0.43 there is an official way of loading them .. though Miller

Re: [PD] dynamic abstraction initialization

2011-02-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 12:17, ailo wrote: I don't know why loadbangs don't bang on dynamic creation, but I solve it has been discussed on this list for several times. please search the archives if you are interested. it by having a receive for the bang

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 12:18, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for not being very politically correct. When I asked Hans about what's heppening with the plugins, he said that Miller has an opinion about this feature to remain but no plugin code is

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 01:02:19PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 12:18, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for not being very politically correct. When I asked Hans about what's heppening with the plugins, he said

[PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread adam sanches
Hi, i was wondering if anybody have any experience with sonyfing data in the frequency domain? Im interested in creating sounds from 0 sonyfing data in the frecuency domain. Is there any pd examples on this? OR maybe papers that you would recommend? A.

Re: [PD] Maybe I'm pushing dynamic object creation too far

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Roman Haefeli wrote: In your situation I'd try to do everything that doesn't necessarily need to happen in 0 logical time to extend to 0 logical time. Unless you really need the new tables immediately after the buffer was filled, I'd suggest to copy them over 'slowly'.

Re: [PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread tim vets
you mean something like: photo_pianoroll.pd (gridflow) ? or: [pix2sig~] ? or: cat any.file /dev/dsp ? ... gr, Tim 2011/2/3 adam sanches adam.sanc...@gmail.com Hi, i was wondering if anybody have any experience with sonyfing data in the frequency domain? Im interested in creating sounds from

Re: [PD] Maybe I'm pushing dynamic object creation too far

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Ed Kelly wrote: Dammit again - I'm using the second core of the machine for the live score, dynamic object creation in GEM - but I see the new version of Inscore supports PD, so all my work over the last 6 months has been for nothing. Pah! Your tool surely has some

Re: [PD] dynamic abstraction initialization

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-02-03 12:17, ailo wrote: I don't know why loadbangs don't bang on dynamic creation, but I solve it has been discussed on this list for several times. please search the archives if you are interested. it by having a receive for the bang

Re: [PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, adam sanches wrote: Hi, i was wondering if anybody have any experience with sonyfing data in the frequency domain? Im interested in creating sounds from 0 sonyfing data in the frecuency domain. Is there any pd examples on this? OR maybe papers that you would recommend?

Re: [PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, tim vets wrote: you mean something like: photo_pianoroll.pd (gridflow) ? or: [pix2sig~] ? or: cat any.file /dev/dsp ? GridFlow's photo_pianoroll.pd is the only one of the three that does it in the frequency domain, but at least, [pix2sig~] can be plugged to the same FFT

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-03 Thread patko
- Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com a écrit : --- On Wed, 2/2/11, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: no one would be actually ridiculous by generating music with brain (Can you say that about chicken dance?). I chose the example of the Chicken Dance exactly because it is

Re: [PD] dynamic abstraction initialization

2011-02-03 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Here's a related thread, although the solution hinted there is basically the same as what IOhannes already mentioned. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/075936.html http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/075936.html I don't know why loadbangs don't bang on

Re: [PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread Marco Donnarumma
in creating sounds from 0 sonyfing data in the frecuency domain. Is there any pd examples on this? OR maybe papers that you would recommend? A. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20110203

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks IOHannes, I'm interested in PD primarily as an audio engine embedded in iOS apps. For legal and technical reasons, most of the other obvious choices aren't viable for me. And thanks for your ps. You're correct that I'm not looking for ways to embed scripting into PD, I'm looking for a more

[PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread Derek Holzer
Dear Pd folks, Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web Awards. Booki will be the new platform for all the FLOSS Manuals, including the Pure Data one. So a vote for Booki is a vote for the Pd FLOSS Manual! Best wishes from Berlin! Derek *** vote for booki

Re: [PD] sonyfing data in the frequency domain

2011-02-03 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
adam sanches wrote: Hi, i was wondering if anybody have any experience with sonyfing data in the frequency domain? Im interested in creating sounds from 0 sonyfing data in the frecuency domain. Is there any pd examples on this? OR maybe papers that you would recommend? Something like this? :)

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Tedb0t
Whoops, just realized I hadn't replied to the list: It seems to me that there are two ways to maybe? accomplish what you're describing: 1) what I've explored fairly deeply is using the pd internal messages to create objects in a running patch from a python script over a socket connection.

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Tedb0t
I don't know if anyone has already created a (scripting) tool specifically for generating pd patch files? On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Morgan Packard wrote: Hit Tedb0t, #2 is definitely what I'm interested in. It does look pretty simple to roll my own. But if someone had already created a

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
And I forgot too! (along with accidentally writing hit tedbot instead of hi tedbot in my original reply. I definitely meant the latter, not the former!) Hi Tedb0t, #2 is definitely what I'm interested in. It does look pretty simple to roll my own. But if someone had already created a nice tool to

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Tedb0t wrote: I don't know if anyone has already created a (scripting) tool specifically for generating pd patch files? I made several, over the years. GridFlow's class index is generated by a Tcl script. My jmax-to-pd patch conversion tool was written in Ruby. The

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches

2011-02-03 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
I haven't had the opportunity to try this out yet, but it might be what you're looking for. https://github.com/pd-projects/ruby-puredata Thanks IOHannes, I'm interested in PD primarily as an audio engine embedded in iOS apps. For legal and technical reasons, most of the other obvious choices

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread Jaime Oliver
2 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/3 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: Dear Pd folks, Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web Awards. Booki will be the new platform for all the FLOSS Manuals, including the Pure

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks Ben. This looks like a way to manupalate PD while it's running. I'm looking for a way to create patch files. -Morgan On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't had the opportunity to try this out yet, but it might be what you're looking for.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread ALAN BROOKER
+1 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: 2 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/3 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: Dear Pd folks, Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web Awards.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread :a
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[PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Tyler Leavitt
Hello all, So I'm getting my feet wet in digital circuitry this quarter at my university and I've got numerous projects I want to waste my time on, one of them being a simple ring mod effect in the same vein as the ring mod found here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/AmplitudeModulation My

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote: My question is what would be the hardware equivalent of the [*~] object. I guess it don't have to be digital... even an analog equivalent would help me understand it better. Isn't the transistor related to [*~] ? But it depends which case of [*~], I

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread martin.peach
You're looking for a balanced modulator. The MC1496 is one. The original ring modulator used a ring of 4 diodes between two transformers. Running two pulse waves into an AND gate will give a binary version. Martin Hello all, So I'm getting my feet wet in digital circuitry this quarter at

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Ben Baker-Smith wrote: I haven't had the opportunity to try this out yet, but it might be what you're looking for. https://github.com/pd-projects/ruby-puredata That is about 0,1 % of Pd reimplemented in Ruby. It has no code nor any API in common with neither the pd

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Stephane Nguyen wrote: (PS: I didn't want to annoy any one with my 18:50 PM tough , at least it was not my goal :) The post I saw was timestamped 18:53. If you posted something else timestamped 18:50, I didn't see it at all. I can only see one post by you in the pd-list

Re: [PD] Maybe I'm pushing dynamic object creation too far

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Only one at a time, but they are tables of perhaps 30 points. Then I copy data from the input buffer into the table. In your situation I'd try to do everything that doesn't necessarily need to happen in 0 logical time to extend to 0 logical time. Unless you really need the new

[PD] Gem dolly zoom

2011-02-03 Thread tim vets
Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how to control the camera lens in Gem. i.e. go from normal view to 'ortho' gradually, or still, change focal length form 18mm to 55mm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_length I've been playing around with 'view', 'perspec' to gemwin, and also tried changing an

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
unless you're a huge Ruby fan seeking to rewrite the whole of PureData in Ruby, you shouldn't be trying to touch this project That would be a very inaccurate description of me. I'm closer to being a circus bear in a tutu than that :) On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
You would do well to look here for circuits: http://www.cgs.synth.net/ Note that the circuit that [*~] is like in the context you are suggesting is analogue, not digital. The website above contains a wealth of circuits and component lists. There is also: www.musicfromouterspace.com Enjoy! PS

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Load a PD patch in a text editor and take a look. Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata From: Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Tyler Leavitt
Thanks everybody for the replies, exactly what I was looking for. I am so new to this field of music/electronics that I frequently find myself struggling to grasp fundamental concepts. Googling mc1496 ring mod gave me plenty of circuits to look at, as I'm sure the couple of links you gave me Ed

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches

2011-02-03 Thread Andrew Faraday
I'm a Pd'er turned rubyist, this looks like something I might one day seriously want to do ('course I might not, it depends if there's anything cool you can do with it. Also, I'm doing a talk on PD to the local ruby users group in a couple of weeks time, which means this might be an

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Andy Farnell
You want it to be bipolar for both signal and modulator domains. So that: +1 * +1 = +1 -1 * +1 = -1 +1 * -1 = -1 -1 * -1 = +1 A linear biased transistor and most simple op-amp circuits can't give you this. Hence the need for something like the CA3080 transconductance circuit. If you

Re: [PD] Maybe I'm pushing dynamic object creation too far

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Did you really mean to reply in private ? Nope! Here it is! Dammit again - I'm using the second core of the machine for the live score, dynamic object creation in GEM - but I see the new version of Inscore supports PD, so all my work over the last 6 months has been for nothing. Pah!

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/3 Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com: SuperCollider or CSound or whatever. But neither of those is an option for me. For legal reasons? If it's your own project, consider the option charging for your work, you just have to make your modifications available. Or because they don't on

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks Ed. Yes, it is indeed simple-looking. But simply editing that file by hand doesn't do me much good. I'd want the power of scripting -- loops, variables, conditionals, to generate such a thing for me. -Morgan On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Load a PD

[PD] [PD-announce] four more fractal videos, and reposting the two previous ones

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, jurgen wrote: I was attempting Quicktime 10 as the default player in Firefox. I'll try VLC thanx. Jurgen I made aliases with .avi suffix. Do those work ? http://gridflow.ca/gallery/koch_polygon_2a.avi http://gridflow.ca/gallery/koch_polygon_2b.avi And I made those

Re: [PD] Gem dolly zoom

2011-02-03 Thread Jack
Hello Tim, Have a look at this patch. Is it what you asked ? ++ Jack Le jeudi 03 février 2011 à 23:26 +0100, tim vets a écrit : Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how to control the camera lens in Gem. i.e. go from normal view to 'ortho' gradually, or still, change focal length form 18mm

[PD] Fw: Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Thanks Ed. Yes, it is indeed simple-looking. But simply editing that file by hand doesn't do me much good. I'd want the power of scripting -- loops, variables, conditionals, to generate such a thing for me. -Morgan OK. What I mean is, the scripting of PD patches follows a simple formula.

Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]

2011-02-03 Thread Derek Holzer
I built an analog multiplier module out of the AD633. Datasheet has many other mathematical functions. See here: http://macumbista.net/?p=1314 Best, D. On 2/3/11 11:07 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote: My question is what would be the hardware equivalent of the [*~] object. I guess it don't have to

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread Derek Holzer
Thanks everyone! D. On 2/3/11 10:08 PM, :a wrote: +1 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 25: Cascades ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] Need Help Understanding pack

2011-02-03 Thread Theron Trowbridge
I've looked over the help patches, the FLOSS manual, and at a number of examples, but I'm clearly missing something. I'm trying to build a proof-of-concept state table for a grid sequencer. I figured out to use an array to store my states, and I can write to and read from the table, except when

[PD] pd-kinect-skeleton

2011-02-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
At the last NYC Patching Circle, we got some stuff working with the Kinect camera's skeleton tracking mode. There is a simple Gem model of the data, and then sounds controlled by the hands. Quite fun for a night of hacking, I'd love to see this stuff extended! We used the OpenNI and

Re: [PD] saving relative paths in a textfile

2011-02-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Use [getdir] and [list2symbol]: chop-path.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi wrote: hello list, i'm building a patch in wich openpanel is used to load four wavfiles in four different arrays. The four paths are stored and, if needed, saved in a