stion remains that is: how can I have a PD extended and a
PD Vanilla on the same computer?
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
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Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at st
ph Steiner escribió:
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Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at startup?
There are only these ones:
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $
[import] is still in development, t
a folder that I called "programmi" (since I am italian)
which has no special meaning for the system.
However that doesn't seem to be the problem, that was just a try.
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Any other suggestion?
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supposed to be already "configured" out-of-the-box to
load all the included externals and libraries? (isn't it half all
pd-extended is about, the other half being actually including the
externals and libraries?) Including bnlt GEM?
I'm confused. What am I doing wron
uess) and the "123" becomes a real float: if you bang it, the [+] will
perform the sum successfully.
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Strange, isn't
it? Your os version seems to be the same as "mine"...
Is yours an Intel mac? (I am ignorant about macs so I don't know if
_all_ macbooks have intel processors)
I ask this because in the 2006 message in the archives it said it didn't
work on intel mac.
By the way, the "connection failed" error message should be suppressed
when generated by the autopatch.
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Jaime Oliver escribió:
This is the same version in which a feature was introduced such that
when
you create a new object with another one s
until the last "/"
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having a hard time getting used to it, I now find it
extremely helpful...
Imo it would only make sense as something you can enable and disable at
any moment (without restarting pd).
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acBook Pro
4.1 (intel core duo) Mac Os X 10.5.8....
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why do you take me for an idiot
On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:58 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
btw are you sure you're testing savepanel and not openpanel?
No I don't, and I'm sorry if you felt offended. It seemed to me an error
that anybody could easily make,
but not in vanilla???
btw are you sure you're testing savepanel and not openpanel?
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Hi,
I'm testing on Mac a patch that I developed under windows and
[savepanel] does not open the browsing window when banged.
I found a message by Miller of 2006 in the archives saying "I will check
it tomorrow".
How do people using Mac work this around?
thanks
m.
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> jusst add "-noautopatch" to the startup options.
Wow! By disabling autopatch with that option, the bug disappears!
So it is definitely related, though I can't even imagine how.
False alarm. The bug does NOT disappear with -noautopatch.
> jusst add "-noautopatch" to the startup options.
Wow! By disabling autopatch with that option, the bug disappears!
So it is definitely related, though I can't even imagine how.
Thanks a lot
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uot; enabled for the abstractions? If so
see bug id# 2621932.
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To: "PD list" , gem-...@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:40 PM
Hi,
I wr
is it possible that it has appeared in some recent version?
Well I'll compare my patch with the one in the bug report, try some
older version of pd, and see if I find out something.
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liable).
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persists after closing and restarting it but disappears after a reboot
of the machine (which does not show any other strange behaviour), can
one safely blame the operating system alone?
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(whatever it is) both with bang and with invalid paths
At least this happens in windows.
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
Hi,
[openpanel] can accept a symbol in order to have it start browsing from
a given default location.
Why doesn't [savepanel]?
Is there another way to accomplish the
Hi,
[openpanel] can accept a symbol in order to have it start browsing from
a given default location.
Why doesn't [savepanel]?
Is there another way to accomplish the same with [savepanel]?
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; in the description. If we take those "should
be" as the conditions that determine success or failure, a 0 precision
is not a failure condition, so according to the definition it should
just output a 0-length string.
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ed)...
Ah, the [truncatesymbol] abstraction, which is basically a settable
[makefilename %.$1s], also manages the case of 0 characters by returning
a null symbol.
Dunnow if it will be of any use to anybody.....
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trick.
I think a general escaping mechanism would really be needed in PD!!!
(see for example the "self reproducing slashes" bug...)
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Shit I'm so confused... Now I'm trying it again and it seem it does
work... I need to find what I was d
Shit I'm so confused... Now I'm trying it again and it seem it does
work... I need to find what I was doing that I am not...
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s few weeks ago.
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[set $1(
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[ (
but since it involves two message boxes i thought it could be more
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install the external, or switch to extended...
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directory, and then write the directory name manually, but that's not
very intuitive.
Perhaps some configuration message to be sent to the [*panel]?
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As far as I can see, these two object only allow you to select a file;
the only way to select a directory would be to navigate to the parent
directory, and then write the directory name manually, but that's not
very intuitive.
That doesn't even w
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 at 00:37:11 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
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> On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 18:04 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>>
>> [funny face]
>
> [big hungry fish or cetaceous]
Did you do that ascii art manually, or did you create some PD patch to
generate it?
:
>
Do you genuinely hate Hans-Cristoph or is it a joke/game between
long-time friends?
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From the main page of the Pure Data portal:
"[Pure Data] is the _third_ major branch of the family of patcher
programming languages known as Max (Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax,
etc.)..." (emphasis added)
Which is the second one?
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abstraction that always output the correct transformation matrix.
c
cyrille henry a écrit :
are you sure you send the good patch?
this one is not "very simple" and does involve pix_snap.
c
Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
Yes the issue is indeed much simpler and [pix_snap] is not involved.
Hi, in my previous message I attached the wrong patch. Here's the
correct one.
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
Yes the issue is indeed much simpler and [pix_snap] is not involved.
Attached is a very simple patch with a square and a sphere. The bang
forces a render. If you move the spher
if it was in the opposite position than usual.
Is it normal, and if so, what is the explanation???
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
Hi,
I'm working on a patch (not the attached one which is an example that
isolates the problem), where from time to time I need to take a snapshot
of the
without involving pix_snap; of course with a "fast"
enough to see what happens during a single extra frame
Thanks in advance
By the way, thanks to all who gave me example patches some days ago
which have helped me building this patch.
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Hi,
I've found this question already asked in the archives, but not the answer.
Is there a way, in gem, to get the current size of the gemwin? Taking
into account that it could be changed by the user by just dragging its
borders, after its creation.
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times with PD alone (though I try to avoid it if I can), and with no
crashes
Obviously if I happen to find a 100% reproducible case I'll post it.
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Since you want to make demands, I suggest paying someone to listen to
them :)
I don't know who said I want to make demands
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you don't pay for, that was my point.
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I may be missing something, but it seems to me that you can be charged
for GETTING free software, you cannot be charged for USING it.
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n purpose, I said "doesn't work" not to mean "is
inoperable" but rather "doesn't work 100% as expected". Even if this is
very questionable, it was in relation to the comparison with "hardware"
commercial products, where usually even small defe
since, I won't reconsider it, and I'd like
you to reconsider yours.
I was just kidding. I hope I didn't offend anybody.
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> code, not on any person, even you.
E. no, I meant the blame about the misunderstanding: I don't
like the word "misunderstanding" because it seems to blame the person
who misunderstood, while the responsible may perfectl
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I meant (and understood) "demand" more or less as "asking" someone to do
something, not necessarily in an imperative way.
Demand is a strong word. It implies such position of power that you have a
right to make a dema
in
Barcelona at "OFF ICMC 2006" so I already knew he has a great sense of
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(in reply to a message of mine about some bug), he started the message
with "It's a dangerous thing to offer, but...".
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The only suggestions I can give are the obvious ones:
- fix the bugs
- design things with an eye on optimization and scalability.
Before that I would try the very large patch on a faster computer with
more RAM.
I strongly disagree w
#x27;s no simple way to
reproduce the problem has no relevance in evaluating the importance of
fixing it. That can be very frustrating, I know.
However, I recognize this is not the same thing because I do get paid
for the work.
but if somebody is ready to shout "your work frustrate
be
a big issue and that seems to be overlooked (but the letter is just an
impression).
About the "very long to load" part, I simply think: is it avoidable? If
it is, then it should be avoided.
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so the great joys and satisfactions it gives me, and not only the
frustrations which are a small percentage. I tend to be somewhat
"practical" and write only when there's an issue to be solved; that
implies being unintentionally "negative".
Cheers,
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carefully design something so that
size (e.g. number of instances) shouldn't be a problem, you strongly
test it within a certain 'size' and verify it is rock-solid, and then,
when you have everything working and your project grows a little bit and
you just add a couple
Mathieu Bouchard escribió:
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IOhannes m zmölnig escribió:
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove
I'm wrong, that would make me very happy.
i would be more happy if you could provide b
tting internal)
Good to know that!
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es with other things (not only geometry).
If you wish to render something without alpha, then something with alpha
enabled, then something without alpha again with the same gemhead, you
_don't_ need at least two alpha objects, provided you use separators.
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shouldn't be necessarily vinculated to the fact of implying a certain
rendering order: they are two different concept and independent
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olor 1 1 1] on every object
that I don't want to be coloured, but that's a bit unhandy
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Errata corrige:
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- multiplicative blending by setting for example sfactor=GL_ONE and
dfactor=GL_SRC_COLOR
I meant sfactor=GL_ZERO
However the question remains:
but NOT for example subtraction or difference... or am I missing something?
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something?
Jack escribió:
i forgot the patch.
++
Jack
Le dimanche 29 novembre 2009 à 15:41 +0100, Jack a écrit :
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Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Ohhh, ok!!!
[env ( is the way
your patch, I thing in the left "column" of [GLdefine]s,
those which go to the _source_ factor inlet, you should replace GL_SRC_*
with GL_DST_*, ¿no?
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Now the question is (and it extends to all [GEMglAnything] objects): how
do I pass these constant values? I guess I cannot use symbolic names,
can i?
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I have done this patch, is it correct to use different blend modes ?
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At the end I think I'll use glsl: with a very small and trivial
modification to the "multitexture" example I've been able to
add/multiply/subtract two textures, so I'll use that to blend a
[framebuffer]ed image with another one as textures.
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Btw now I see in the documentation it says "env" is for "texture
environment mode" and I don't know what it means but the options don't
sound like blending modes the way I understand them (i.e. ways of
blending with the background)...
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all-white image
(or no texture) (and the background is not white)
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Oh s...@#*,
[pix_snap] seems to be the answer, isn't it!!!
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
Hi,
I realized that a recent thread was about something very similar to what
I need to do right now (the thread was "way to get gemframebuffer back
onto main memory for pix_operations")...
uot; that memory with anyone at all
Isn't there any "inverse [pix_texture]" object??
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A) Use several [rectangle]s on a plane, get a snapshot of the
framebuffer and put it into a texture
B) manipulate the camera input as pix, or as texture, and compose a
bigger pix, so only at the very end, for displaying, you would use a
rectangle
?
H I
uld use a
rectangle
?
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h is a
very subjective concept)
I'll try to formulate my question in a way that makes more sense... By
using glsl programming, would I be able to just 'tell the rectangle' how
to blend with its background, or would I end up combining textures anyway?
(does it make more sense
Btw I am specially interested in add and multiply, and maybe difference
and subtraction
Max escribió:
make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel
[alpha]
&
[colorRGB] <- use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1
Am 28.11.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Matteo Sisti Sette:
Hi,
Max escribió:
make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel
[alpha]
&
[colorRGB] <- use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1
Well that only gives me alpha blending, I cannot do additive nor
multiplicative nor difference blending etc with that, can I
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you are using vista: try rebooting :-)
Indeed after rebooting it stopped crashing
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Hi,
I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove
I'm wrong, that would make me very happy.
i would be more happy if you could provide better documentation.
he gemlist and NOT capturing, that makes it consume CPU?? It
seems that, whatever it is, it is useless.
Is it a bug? Or is there an explanation? (well the two things are not
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Now I haven't changed A THING in the patch, and even after restarting
GEM, it crashes just opening the patch. Can't even edit it.
It's really frustrating
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
So first of all it seems that pix_write doesn't crash when saving if I
set the creatio
Now I haven't changed A THING in the patch, and even after restarting
GEM, it crashes just opening the patch. Can't even edit it.
It's really frustrating
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
So first of all it seems that pix_write doesn't crash when saving if I
set the creatio
r nor pix_write. Now with the
last version it seems you can't trust it, everything makes it crash
I'm considering doing the whole thing in Flash, and that would be a
shame
Do you know of some relatively recent stable version? Or is it one of
these three objects that is unst
Jack
Le vendredi 27 novembre 2009 à 15:46 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
I modified IOhannes' patch to use pix_write instead of
pix_snap+pix_write and it also crashes, so it is not a difference
between pix_write and pix_writer: both crash.
I'll have a look at what's differen
lp of [gemhead 51]).
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Jack
Le vendredi 27 novembre 2009 à 15:24 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
Hi,
I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove
I'm wrong, that would make me very happy.
I don't understand how to use pix_snap (and I'm quite surpri
rashes and the other does not....
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
IOhannes m zmoelnig escribió:
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Ok, IOhannes' patch seems to be what I was looking for, however I have
the following problems:
- The patch out-of-the-box saves unreadable tiffs just like Jack's
w
y ignorance, I would expect the attached patch to "capture" a
"photo" of the red sphere and this photo to appear as a texture on the
rectangle in the background, as soon as you click on the "snap" message
box. On the contrary, I only see a black rectangle.
What am
f the camera (and
then the view in the gemwin), they are different.
I think the help patch about [gemframebuffer] is a good exemple.
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Jack
Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 20:21 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
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Can you he
I'm stuck
(I tried with small negative translations in the Z axis as in your
patch, which shouldn't be relevant, and no differnce)
thanks
m.
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IOhannes m zmoelnig escribió:
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Ok, IOhannes' patch seems to be what I was looking for, however I have
the following problems:
- The patch out-of-the-box saves unreadable tiffs just like Jack's
which OS?
Windows Vista :(
- By sending it a [file someth
with the
last step?
Thanks a lot
m.
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
Hi Jack
Sorry for the delay, I very much appreciate the patch you sent me in
response to my question, but only now I've been able to look at it.
Unfortunately, it does not do what I was looking for:
- first of all, noth
--
I have done this patch.
It works with a [gemwin] with [dimen 800 600( and capture a picture with
dimen = 1600x1200.
Hoping it helps.
++
Jack
Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 01:41 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I have to modify some patches made by anoth
Thank you so much Jack and Stéfan
:)
ciao
m.
Jack escribió:
I have done this patch.
It works with a [gemwin] with [dimen 800 600( and capture a picture with
dimen = 1600x1200.
Hoping it helps.
++
Jack
Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 01:41 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
Hi,
I have to
2009/11/16 Matt Barber :
> Actually, after searching through the list archives, I believe you did
> think of it --
Hahahahahaha, you're right, I did - lol
What I couldn't do is split a symbol into characters, or break it at
an arbitrary point....
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