Re: [PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
stion remains that is: how can I have a PD extended and a PD Vanilla on the same computer? Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: Post the log from your Pd window. You mean the messages that are printed at st

Re: [PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
ph Steiner escribió: On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: Post the log from your Pd window. You mean the messages that are printed at startup? There are only these ones: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, t

Re: [PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
a folder that I called "programmi" (since I am italian) which has no special meaning for the system. However that doesn't seem to be the problem, that was just a try. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com __

Re: [PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
changed anything (i didn't expect it to). -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
anged. Any other suggestion? thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] pd-extended is not extended

2009-12-24 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
supposed to be already "configured" out-of-the-box to load all the included externals and libraries? (isn't it half all pd-extended is about, the other half being actually including the externals and libraries?) Including bnlt GEM? I'm confused. What am I doing wron

Re: [PD] message box issue with blank spaces

2009-12-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
uess) and the "123" becomes a real float: if you bang it, the [+] will perform the sum successfully. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-12 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Strange, isn't it? Your os version seems to be the same as "mine"... Is yours an Intel mac? (I am ignorant about macs so I don't know if _all_ macbooks have intel processors) I ask this because in the 2006 message in the archives it said it didn't work on intel mac.

Re: [PD] autopatch was Re: something else, was ......

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
By the way, the "connection failed" error message should be suppressed when generated by the autopatch. Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Jaime Oliver escribió: This is the same version in which a feature was introduced such that when you create a new object with another one s

Re: [PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
until the last "/" -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] autopatch was Re: something else, was ......

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
having a hard time getting used to it, I now find it extremely helpful... Imo it would only make sense as something you can enable and disable at any moment (without restarting pd). -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

Re: [PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
acBook Pro 4.1 (intel core duo) Mac Os X 10.5.8.... -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
jurgen escribió: why do you take me for an idiot On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:58 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: btw are you sure you're testing savepanel and not openpanel? No I don't, and I'm sorry if you felt offended. It seemed to me an error that anybody could easily make,

Re: [PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
but not in vanilla??? btw are you sure you're testing savepanel and not openpanel? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.pure

[PD] savepanel in MacOs still not working??????

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I'm testing on Mac a patch that I developed under windows and [savepanel] does not open the browsing window when banged. I found a message by Miller of 2006 in the archives saying "I will check it tomorrow". How do people using Mac work this around? thanks m.

Re: [PD] bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: > jusst add "-noautopatch" to the startup options. Wow! By disabling autopatch with that option, the bug disappears! So it is definitely related, though I can't even imagine how. False alarm. The bug does NOT disappear with -noautopatch.

Re: [PD] bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
> jusst add "-noautopatch" to the startup options. Wow! By disabling autopatch with that option, the bug disappears! So it is definitely related, though I can't even imagine how. Thanks a lot m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.ma

[PD] bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42 - was Re: crazy bug: all user actions executed twice

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
uot; enabled for the abstractions? If so see bug id# 2621932. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: From: Matteo Sisti Sette Subject: [PD] crazy bug: all user actions executed twice To: "PD list" , gem-...@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:40 PM Hi, I wr

Re: [PD] crazy bug: all user actions executed twice

2009-12-11 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
is it possible that it has appeared in some recent version? Well I'll compare my patch with the one in the bug report, try some older version of pd, and see if I find out something. Thanks again m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.

[PD] crazy bug: all user actions executed twice

2009-12-10 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
liable). Thanks in advance m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] a philosophical question

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
When some apparently buggy behavior of a program (say PD for example) persists after closing and restarting it but disappears after a reboot of the machine (which does not show any other strange behaviour), can one safely blame the operating system alone? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise

[PD] SORRY was: Re: savepanel

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
(whatever it is) both with bang and with invalid paths At least this happens in windows. Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, [openpanel] can accept a symbol in order to have it start browsing from a given default location. Why doesn't [savepanel]? Is there another way to accomplish the

[PD] savepanel

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, [openpanel] can accept a symbol in order to have it start browsing from a given default location. Why doesn't [savepanel]? Is there another way to accomplish the same with [savepanel]? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisett

Re: [PD] makefilename inconsistency (or not?)

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
; in the description. If we take those "should be" as the conditions that determine success or failure, a 0 precision is not a failure condition, so according to the definition it should just output a 0-length string. -- Matteo Sisti Sett

Re: [PD] browsing and selecting a folder (directory)

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
ed)... Ah, the [truncatesymbol] abstraction, which is basically a settable [makefilename %.$1s], also manages the case of 0 characters by returning a null symbol. Dunnow if it will be of any use to anybody..... bye m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas

[PD] makefilename inconsistency (or not?)

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
-- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] message box issue with blank spaces

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
27;t explain it well. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] message box issue with blank spaces

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
trick. I think a general escaping mechanism would really be needed in PD!!! (see for example the "self reproducing slashes" bug...) Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Shit I'm so confused... Now I'm trying it again and it seem it does work... I need to find what I was d

Re: [PD] message box issue with blank spaces

2009-12-09 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Shit I'm so confused... Now I'm trying it again and it seem it does work... I need to find what I was doing that I am not... -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at ma

Re: [PD] browsing and selecting a folder (directory)

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
s few weeks ago. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] message box issue with blank spaces

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
.S. the same results are obtained with [set $1( | [ ( but since it involves two message boxes i thought it could be more confusing. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNS

Re: [PD] browsing and selecting a folder (directory)

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
install the external, or switch to extended... -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] browsing and selecting a folder (directory)

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
directory, and then write the directory name manually, but that's not very intuitive. Perhaps some configuration message to be sent to the [*panel]? thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com _

Re: [PD] browsing and selecting a folder (directory)

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: As far as I can see, these two object only allow you to select a file; the only way to select a directory would be to navigate to the parent directory, and then write the directory name manually, but that's not very intuitive. That doesn't even w

Re: [PD] just out of curiosity

2009-12-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 at 00:37:11 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 18:04 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >> >> [funny face] > > [big hungry fish or cetaceous] Did you do that ascii art manually, or did you create some PD patch to generate it? :

Re: [PD] just out of curiosity

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
> Do you genuinely hate Hans-Cristoph or is it a joke/game between long-time friends? :) -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] just out of curiosity

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
From the main page of the Pure Data portal: "[Pure Data] is the _third_ major branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max (Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.)..." (emphasis added) Which is the second one? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmai

Re: [PD] snapshot misteries, bang to gemhead

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
abstraction that always output the correct transformation matrix. c cyrille henry a écrit : are you sure you send the good patch? this one is not "very simple" and does involve pix_snap. c Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Yes the issue is indeed much simpler and [pix_snap] is not involved.

Re: [PD] snapshot misteries, bang to gemhead ERRATA (attachment)

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, in my previous message I attached the wrong patch. Here's the correct one. Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Yes the issue is indeed much simpler and [pix_snap] is not involved. Attached is a very simple patch with a square and a sphere. The bang forces a render. If you move the spher

Re: [PD] snapshot misteries, bang to gemhead

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
if it was in the opposite position than usual. Is it normal, and if so, what is the explanation??? Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, I'm working on a patch (not the attached one which is an example that isolates the problem), where from time to time I need to take a snapshot of the

[PD] snapshot misteries, bang to gemhead

2009-12-07 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
without involving pix_snap; of course with a "fast" enough to see what happens during a single extra frame Thanks in advance By the way, thanks to all who gave me example patches some days ago which have helped me building this patch. m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@g

Re: [PD] getting the current size of the gemwin

2009-12-04 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
use them in the patch -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] getting the current size of the gemwin

2009-12-04 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I've found this question already asked in the archives, but not the answer. Is there a way, in gem, to get the current size of the gemwin? Taking into account that it could be changed by the user by just dragging its borders, after its creation. Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
times with PD alone (though I try to avoid it if I can), and with no crashes Obviously if I happen to find a 100% reproducible case I'll post it. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-l

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: Since you want to make demands, I suggest paying someone to listen to them :) I don't know who said I want to make demands -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com _

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
t doesn't hold for free software you don't pay for, that was my point. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
osophy/selling.html I may be missing something, but it seems to me that you can be charged for GETTING free software, you cannot be charged for USING it. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@i

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
n purpose, I said "doesn't work" not to mean "is inoperable" but rather "doesn't work 100% as expected". Even if this is very questionable, it was in relation to the comparison with "hardware" commercial products, where usually even small defe

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
since, I won't reconsider it, and I'd like you to reconsider yours. I was just kidding. I hope I didn't offend anybody. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSU

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
. I want you to put the blame on a piece of > code, not on any person, even you. E. no, I meant the blame about the misunderstanding: I don't like the word "misunderstanding" because it seems to blame the person who misunderstood, while the responsible may perfectl

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Justin Glenn Smith escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I meant (and understood) "demand" more or less as "asking" someone to do something, not necessarily in an imperative way. Demand is a strong word. It implies such position of power that you have a right to make a dema

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
in Barcelona at "OFF ICMC 2006" so I already knew he has a great sense of humor. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
a crashing patch (in reply to a message of mine about some bug), he started the message with "It's a dangerous thing to offer, but...". -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Martin Peach escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: > The only suggestions I can give are the obvious ones: - fix the bugs - design things with an eye on optimization and scalability. Before that I would try the very large patch on a faster computer with more RAM. I strongly disagree w

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
#x27;s no simple way to reproduce the problem has no relevance in evaluating the importance of fixing it. That can be very frustrating, I know. However, I recognize this is not the same thing because I do get paid for the work. but if somebody is ready to shout "your work frustrate

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
be a big issue and that seems to be overlooked (but the letter is just an impression). About the "very long to load" part, I simply think: is it avoidable? If it is, then it should be avoided. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.c

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
so the great joys and satisfactions it gives me, and not only the frustrations which are a small percentage. I tend to be somewhat "practical" and write only when there's an issue to be solved; that implies being unintentionally "negative". Cheers, m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Very large patches unstable?

2009-12-02 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
carefully design something so that size (e.g. number of instances) shouldn't be a problem, you strongly test it within a certain 'size' and verify it is rock-solid, and then, when you have everything working and your project grows a little bit and you just add a couple

Re: [PD] still confused about pix_snap

2009-11-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Mathieu Bouchard escribió: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove I'm wrong, that would make me very happy. i would be more happy if you could provide b

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] (GEM) color invasion

2009-11-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
tting internal) Good to know that! Thanks again m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] (GEM) color invasion

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
es with other things (not only geometry). If you wish to render something without alpha, then something with alpha enabled, then something without alpha again with the same gemhead, you _don't_ need at least two alpha objects, provided you use separators. -- Matteo Sisti Se

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] (GEM) color invasion

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
t is, the fact of applying certain things to a given subchain shouldn't be necessarily vinculated to the fact of implying a certain rendering order: they are two different concept and independent requirement... no? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistis

[PD] (GEM) color invasion

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
olor 1 1 1] on every object that I don't want to be coloured, but that's a bit unhandy -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Errata corrige: Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: - multiplicative blending by setting for example sfactor=GL_ONE and dfactor=GL_SRC_COLOR I meant sfactor=GL_ZERO However the question remains: but NOT for example subtraction or difference... or am I missing something? -- Matteo Sisti Sette

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
something? Jack escribió: i forgot the patch. ++ Jack Le dimanche 29 novembre 2009 à 15:41 +0100, Jack a écrit : Le dimanche 29 novembre 2009 à 12:07 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Ohhh, ok!!! [env ( is the way

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
your patch, I thing in the left "column" of [GLdefine]s, those which go to the _source_ factor inlet, you should replace GL_SRC_* with GL_DST_*, ¿no? Thanks a lot for the patch -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matte

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Now the question is (and it extends to all [GEMglAnything] objects): how do I pass these constant values? I guess I cannot use symbolic names, can i? Ohhh great, it seems the answer is "Yes you can"!! -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmai

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Jack escribió: I have done this patch, is it correct to use different blend modes ? Er which patch? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
ed directly to the gemwin, are rendered in the standard non-blending fashion) Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-29 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
ry to investigate these ones, thanks! -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
round At the end I think I'll use glsl: with a very small and trivial modification to the "multitexture" example I've been able to add/multiply/subtract two textures, so I'll use that to blend a [framebuffer]ed image with another one as textures. -- Matteo Sisti Sette m

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Btw now I see in the documentation it says "env" is for "texture environment mode" and I don't know what it means but the options don't sound like blending modes the way I understand them (i.e. ways of blending with the background)... Matteo Sisti Sette

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
all-white image (or no texture) (and the background is not white) am I missing something? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-managemen

Re: [PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
(or no texture) (and the background is not white) am I missing something? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -&g

Re: [PD] getting a texture into pix???

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Oh s...@#*, [pix_snap] seems to be the answer, isn't it!!! Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, I realized that a recent thread was about something very similar to what I need to do right now (the thread was "way to get gemframebuffer back onto main memory for pix_operations")...

[PD] getting a texture into pix???

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
uot; that memory with anyone at all Isn't there any "inverse [pix_texture]" object?? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: A) Use several [rectangle]s on a plane, get a snapshot of the framebuffer and put it into a texture B) manipulate the camera input as pix, or as texture, and compose a bigger pix, so only at the very end, for displaying, you would use a rectangle ? H I

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
uld use a rectangle ? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
h is a very subjective concept) I'll try to formulate my question in a way that makes more sense... By using glsl programming, would I be able to just 'tell the rectangle' how to blend with its background, or would I end up combining textures anyway? (does it make more sense

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Btw I am specially interested in add and multiply, and maybe difference and subtraction Max escribió: make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel [alpha] & [colorRGB] <- use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1 Am 28.11.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Matteo Sisti Sette: Hi,

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Max escribió: make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel [alpha] & [colorRGB] <- use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1 Well that only gives me alpha blending, I cannot do additive nor multiplicative nor difference blending etc with that, can I -- Matte

[PD] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
t;simple" way? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] GEM instability hell

2009-11-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
IOhannes m zmölnig escribió: you are using vista: try rebooting :-) Indeed after rebooting it stopped crashing -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] still confused about pix_snap

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
IOhannes m zmölnig escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove I'm wrong, that would make me very happy. i would be more happy if you could provide better documentation.

[PD] pix_snap CPU consumption question

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
he gemlist and NOT capturing, that makes it consume CPU?? It seems that, whatever it is, it is useless. Is it a bug? Or is there an explanation? (well the two things are not mutually exclusive) -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas 9 18 1246

Re: [PD] GEM instability hell was:Re: GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Now I haven't changed A THING in the patch, and even after restarting GEM, it crashes just opening the patch. Can't even edit it. It's really frustrating Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: So first of all it seems that pix_write doesn't crash when saving if I set the creatio

Re: [PD] GEM instability hell was:Re: GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Now I haven't changed A THING in the patch, and even after restarting GEM, it crashes just opening the patch. Can't even edit it. It's really frustrating Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: So first of all it seems that pix_write doesn't crash when saving if I set the creatio

[PD] GEM instability hell was:Re: GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
r nor pix_write. Now with the last version it seems you can't trust it, everything makes it crash I'm considering doing the whole thing in Flash, and that would be a shame Do you know of some relatively recent stable version? Or is it one of these three objects that is unst

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Jack Le vendredi 27 novembre 2009 à 15:46 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : I modified IOhannes' patch to use pix_write instead of pix_snap+pix_write and it also crashes, so it is not a difference between pix_write and pix_writer: both crash. I'll have a look at what's differen

Re: [PD] still confused about pix_snap

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
lp of [gemhead 51]). ++ Jack Le vendredi 27 novembre 2009 à 15:24 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I have the impression that GEM documentation is very poor. Please prove I'm wrong, that would make me very happy. I don't understand how to use pix_snap (and I'm quite surpri

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
rashes and the other does not.... Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: IOhannes m zmoelnig escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Ok, IOhannes' patch seems to be what I was looking for, however I have the following problems: - The patch out-of-the-box saves unreadable tiffs just like Jack's w

[PD] still confused about pix_snap

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
y ignorance, I would expect the attached patch to "capture" a "photo" of the red sphere and this photo to appear as a texture on the rectangle in the background, as soon as you click on the "snap" message box. On the contrary, I only see a black rectangle. What am

Re: [PD] gemframebuffer nonsense - was: Re: GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-27 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
f the camera (and then the view in the gemwin), they are different. I think the help patch about [gemframebuffer] is a good exemple. ++ Jack Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 20:21 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Can you he

[PD] gemframebuffer nonsense - was: Re: GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-26 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
I'm stuck (I tried with small negative translations in the Z axis as in your patch, which shouldn't be relevant, and no differnce) thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas 30 183 911 601 12; #X obj 26 104 gemwin; #X msg 13 27 dimen 64

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-26 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
IOhannes m zmoelnig escribió: Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Ok, IOhannes' patch seems to be what I was looking for, however I have the following problems: - The patch out-of-the-box saves unreadable tiffs just like Jack's which OS? Windows Vista :( - By sending it a [file someth

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-26 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
with the last step? Thanks a lot m. Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi Jack Sorry for the delay, I very much appreciate the patch you sent me in response to my question, but only now I've been able to look at it. Unfortunately, it does not do what I was looking for: - first of all, noth

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-26 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
-- I have done this patch. It works with a [gemwin] with [dimen 800 600( and capture a picture with dimen = 1600x1200. Hoping it helps. ++ Jack Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 01:41 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : > Hi, > > I have to modify some patches made by anoth

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Thank you so much Jack and Stéfan :) ciao m. Jack escribió: I have done this patch. It works with a [gemwin] with [dimen 800 600( and capture a picture with dimen = 1600x1200. Hoping it helps. ++ Jack Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 01:41 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I have to

Re: [PD] is there a way to get symbol length?

2009-11-16 Thread matteo sisti sette
2009/11/16 Matt Barber : > Actually, after searching through the list archives, I believe you did > think of it -- Hahahahahaha, you're right, I did - lol What I couldn't do is split a symbol into characters, or break it at an arbitrary point.... -- Matteo Sisti Set

Re: [PD] GEM: writing an image different from the one displayed

2009-11-16 Thread matteo sisti sette
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