What is the difference between import and declare?
Pd 0.4 and up, will on of the two be deprecated?
Tom
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Hum, first observations:
import is realtime: it imports the lib right away while with a declare you
need to reopen the patch which is a pain.
import seems to be less flexible than declare (as declare has many different
flags).
Tom
On 10/31/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What
But isn't this all deprecated? I thought the new official way of loading
externals in Pd-Extended was to either use prefixes or the import object
(which make more sense with the upcoming Pdpedia, permits the dynamic
loading of libs and better follows the standard import method seen in other
What is the difference between [str] and [any2string]?
If I understand correctly str is a wrapper for standard string functions and
it's output is a pointer to a string.
I believe this approach is more limited that using any2string because all
basic string functions can be recreated once a symbol
The help is in moocow/pdstring-help.pd
Tom
On 10/18/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
What is the difference between [str] and [any2string]?
I don't know. I can't find the help file for [any2string] so I don't know
how to use it. Maybe I have to look
The main difference is that moocow's conversion of a message into a string
appends a 0 at the end of the created list.
Tom
On 10/18/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The help is in moocow/pdstring-help.pd
Tom
On 10/18/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O
Attached, two abstractions that can help. Feel free to modify.
Tom
On 10/18/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
The help is in moocow/pdstring-help.pd
It's not there in the autobuilt Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20070905 even
though any2string
BOTH screens must have the same refresh rate or you will get tearing.
Tom
On 10/12/07, Olivier Heinry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 15:32 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks a écrit :
Yes there is.
Your monitors have to have the same refresh rate in your xorg.conf (for
all
Hi Martin,
just to make sure, the newest version of comport is in iem/comport/comport
right?
But the result should be the same, the data gets sent anyway, the error is
bogus.
Nope, the data is never received by the device.
Please note that there are only problems with sending data through
I am looking for a way of reading/writing strings (as defined by the
string2any and any2string externals) to the hard disk.
Is there already an implementation anywhere (maybe I will adapt textfile or
msgfile)?
The reason is I want to bypass the limitations imposed by pd's special
characters so I
editor and would
display a b c.
Tom
On 10/11/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
I am looking for a way of reading/writing strings (as defined by the
string2any and any2string externals) to the hard disk.
Is there already an implementation anywhere (maybe I
Hum, I just loaded the file created with binfile inside textfile and it
works like I want. But how do I make the system recognize the file as a text
file?
TOm
On 10/11/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi again Martin,
Hum , the output file is a binary. I don't think I
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Oh. Do you mean that it won't open in a text editor or that it doesn't
have
a text icon, or both?
Martin
Does not work on linux.
Tom
On 10/11/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
Hum, I just loaded the file created
([comport] write returned %d, errno is %d, result, errno);
//return result;
}
//Added end
Tom
On 10/11/07, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
Hi Martin,
just to make sure, the newest version of comport is in
iem/comport/comport right?
Yep
Yes there is.
Your monitors have to have the same refresh rate in your xorg.conf (for all
your monitors) as Gems refresh rate and you have to set up the opengl params
of your card so that it refreshes the opengl in between synchs (called sync
to VBlank in my nvidia-settings panel).
On 10/11/07,
Cool. It's great the behavior will be the same on XP and POSIX.
I get the following warning (treated as an error):
cc -DPD -O2 -fPIC -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow
-Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
-I../../src -I../../../../pd/src -o
sync to vblank will sync swapping buffer with the screen frame rate, but
that's not the original question.
to my knowledge, there is no possibility to sync gem rendering with the
screen frame rate.
if you fix both at 60Hz, you can have jitter (not a lot, but some).
You are not technically syncing
I agree!
It would guarentee better results but would increase the chance of a cpu
lock up I think!
Tom
On 10/11/07, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 01:49 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 00:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote:
Thomas O Fredericks
I am creating an abstraction to ease the communication with an UBW (USB Bit
Wacker: http://greta.dhs.org/UBW/index.html).
The abstraction uses comport to communicate with the device. It is
considered as USB modem by the system. See the tail of dmesg when the device
is plugged in to my Ubuntu
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/10/08/first-max-5-preview-music-patching-the-next-generation/
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that is the size of one block, sometimes there, sometimes not). How
can I make this consistent?
Tom
On 10/3/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo,
Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 13:52 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
Actually
Are there any objects to make ramps smaller than one second?
Tom
On 10/3/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
vsnapshot~? Where can I find it's help? (I use Ubuntu PD(not extended)
and PD 0.40-2)
I still see inconsistencies in the patch I submitted
I will try to make something
Hi, I am trying to implement the switch ramp that the list was talking
about. Attached you will find the abstraction and a patch showing the bug.
Why doesn't this work?
Actually, it kind of works, but there is an annoying glitch (when you
replace the lines with vlines inside mix.switch.ramp~ the
Has the backlash been integrated as an escape character in the pd's editing
environment? Or is it still only useful in the file description format?
Tom
On 9/29/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some help for writing your http://puredata.org/dev/PdDefinitions ... those
are surely
This is a standard feature of all obects/externals:
If the hot inlet does not accept a list, the firs
Tom
On 9/22/07, João Miguel Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I just found out that if a list is sent to a |scale|, all values after the
1st substitute the parameters. The result will be
This is a standard feature of all obects/externals:
If the hot inlet does not accept a list, the first element is sent to the
first inlet, the second element to the second inlet, etc...
Tom
On 9/22/07, João Miguel Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I just found out that if a list is
Wow, very nice. Very much improved!
Does it compile easy on other systems than Linux?
Comments:
I had to edit your makefile to point to my pd sources. Maybe you should note
that somewhere. Also, I had to add a space between and $*.tk2c in the
line #12 of your makefile (sh tk2c.bash $*.tk
Excellent, it compiled on windows (properties window still does not
thought).
Also, I think you should specify that your external requires PD 0.4
Attached the compiled windows version and a modified makefile.
Tom
On 9/21/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, very nice. Very
I got the error with pd 0.39, not pd 0.4
Tom
On 9/21/07, patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi federico,
after compiling your external (with tk2c.bash copied in /usr/bin
beforehand). i have this error:
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux:
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/tracker.pd_linux:
It looks like the function do_open_via_path in s_path.c is the one to
fix...
Wow, talk about solving a big problem with the most simple solution!
If this were implemented (and that could be done in one day instead of
years), the rights to Max/Msp would not have to be bought (as this is
clearly
visit the documentation website. The cvs version is
outdated, and since there is talking of making a svn system, they will be
integrated properly then.
Tom
On 9/18/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo,
Thomas O Fredericks hat gesagt: // Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
It looks like
If you are interested, with the sample_id system, the pdmtl abstractions
have a basic 4 cue point system i.e. start,end, loop in, loop out . Once you
load a wav with the sample_id system you can load it many times without the
actual sample(frame) data being reloaded. Since you can save the
You will be happy to know that the pdmtl abstractions have given up (for a
couple of months now) the [pdmtl/list/op] style of naming it's abstractions.
By building the pdmtl abstractions layer, users do not have to care about
namespaces anymore (anyways, I don't), as all externals/libraries are
I was able to play mp3s in Windows with through a vst and the vst~ external.
It worked great.
The vst mp3 player: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/604.html (almost everything
can be controlled with vst~)
Tom
On 9/12/07, David Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
This is driving me nuts! I
I think to implement it we would need new externals to provide better access
to the window(patche) contents,names and such...
Tom
On 9/10/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 9, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote:
pat wrote:
Batuhan Bozkurt a écrit :
Hello,
Starting from scratch (an empty patch) you can do it with internal messages.
But with a currently build patch it is not possible now.
Tom
On 9/10/07, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I can tell, you can do this with internal messages to Pd. Am
I off base here?
~Kyle
On
WHAT! I did not know tot could do that! Surprise, surprise!
Thanks Patrice.
I could build an object toolbar with that!
Tom
On 9/10/07, Patrice Colet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 9/10/07, Batuhan Bozkurt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any facility like this in PD? Not necessarily
I am sorry, but in Canada at least:
the rest believes: making the rich richer is good for
everybody, JUST IN CASE you might get rich.
Tom
On 9/5/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
glerm soares wrote:
Hi folks.
I didn't mean to be the annoying guy, fundamentalist or whatever.
That is why this object's name will change. It will be called destroysend
because it sends a bang when it is destroyed. It is designed for inter
patch communication NOT inner patch communication.
After your receive object, simply add a delay message with 0 for time and
you should be sure that the
I have been waiting (count in years) for the long promised closebang. As for
many PD promises, I am tired of waiting... I got work to do!
I will not patch my PD (or use a special version) because I want my patches
to be cross-platform and accessible to all users.
am i correct that your external
being empty either.
This is not an issue with this external as it is made to annonce to another
patch that the current patch is being deleted.
On 9/3/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
Since I started making externals for PD, here
report!
Tom
On 8/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi.
Quoting Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also experienced many inconsistencies with msgfile. But I do not think
it
has to do with spaces. If you add data to a msgfile then send a write
/test message, it answers
We implemented something similar forthe help files in PDMTL abstractions.
See the pdmtl.inde.maker.pd in
https://devel.goto10.org/listing.php?repname=pdmtlpath=%2Ftrunk%2Ftools%2Frev=0sc=0
Tom
On 8/29/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
this is the start for the
Very nice. Excellent use of transparency!
Tom
On 8/28/07, Nikola Jeremic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have some old work of me experimenting with Gem ...
feel free 2 use it :)
the patch needs audio input and likes techno...
u can change the photos in the images folder with your own ones, but
Thanks to Han's help page (http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw) I was
able to compile a test external on windows with mingw.
I then started making a new external called getdollarzero based on getdir
(from ggee) and parentdollarzero (from iemlib2). I compiled it and it works
but I had to:
1)
You can also check out some of the PDMTL Abstractions. Here are some
screenshots:
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/ScreenShots
Tom
On 8/27/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Atte André Jensen wrote:
I feel impolite to ask in such a hurry, but is
There is a way of fiddling with the XP monitor display properties settings
to set the second screen as your primary screen (on my cheap laptop, the
path is Control Panel/Display Properties/Settings/Advanced/Utility
Manage/Driver Mode). That way, the laptop screen will not be accelerated,
but your
:
These are included in Pd-extedned also.
.hc
On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Thomas Grill wrote:
Hi, please try the one at http://g.org/ext/beta
greetings, Thomas
Am 24.07.2007 um 23:41 schrieb Thomas O Fredericks:
Anyone have a copy of xsample compiled for OsX i386?
If not, how does one compile stuff on OsX
Anyone have a copy of xsample compiled for OsX i386?
If not, how does one compile stuff on OsX. I usually work on Linux, but are
all the compilation tools, headers, etc already installed on OsX or do I
have to get them somewhere?
Thanks for the help
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Here is the corrected patch (much simpler than what you are expecting)
Tom
On 7/22/07, Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To:
In what case do you rely on using [unpack 0 0 0] except for throwing an
error when it receives a symbol? As it was previously suggested on this
list, why use anything else than [t a] or [t b]? I think Mathieu's end of
type restrictions is a great idea. For example, if you use Max/Msp every so
You could start two PDs. Each one controlling it's own Gem window. One
would be the main output, the other the previewer.
Tom
On 7/18/07, Patrice Colet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Hi Patrice,
If you are using pdp, why not just create another pdp_xv window just for
You can also use Line~ or curve~, both from the cyclone lib and
included in Pd Extended.
Tom
On 7/15/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jasch wrote:
hello,
i'm flabbergasted.
how do you all know when a ramp has finished ramping? none of PD's
line/line~/vline~ objects
Line~ is not the same as line~
But you can simulate Line~'s behavior with Pd's basic objects. See the
attached patch.
Tom
On 7/15/07, jasch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hmm, errm, yes well, i'm actually running PDa on an ARM procesor ;=)
anybody wants to port cyclone to PDa ? (hello fixed point
This solution uses coll (from the cyclone library).
It works with floats and symbols (you could even count the repetitions
with a few changes).
Tom
On 7/6/07, Nicolas Montgermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
This seems to work but the order is broken.
I haven't test all the possibilities.
In my own experience netsend/netreceive works very well even with a
constant stream of data.
Tom
On 7/4/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
patrick wrote:
hi,
i'm looking for the best way to use netsend / netreceiving between 2
instances of pd (1 with -nogui) running on the
:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
Yes, everything does have to be in a category. This constraint makes
for an environment that is especially useful for newbies and resolves
a lot of conflicts.
verb/is article/this noun/sentence adjective/easier prep/to verb/read ?
Yes
I vote for no namespace, no prefix, it's difficult enough to organize
files for pd, and many prefixes won't work with externals that requires
a script, for example
if I put my python scripts into extra/python, I'd call the script with
[pyext] with a namespace like that [py python/myscript
MB Ok, but I don't think that the _ character is so distinctive. I mean,
it's enough to distinguish unambiguously, but it's still looks pretty
close to a space, and it doesn't seem to have the kind of appeal to it[...]
We used ! (an upside down i that stands for interface) before
instead of _
[...] Without their
prefix -- [list]-abs is using a dash instead of an underscore or a
slash, because underscores are harder to type on german keyboards and
because not following guidelines leads to more fun in life [...]
Wow, talk about cheap thrills :)
Doesn't the German keyboard have a /
You can try gems/mouse in combination with gems/win from the Pdmtl
Abstractions to get the mouse behavior you are looking for.
Get a recent snapshot of the Pdmtl Abstractions here:
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions
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On
So, SMS is signicantly slower because it uses ASCII conversion ?
Interesting. Even at high baud rates ?
SMS is aimed at ease of use and precision. Although I am surprised to ear
about SMS's and Pduino's speed problems.
I made an installation with an SSC-32 servo controller controlling 24
I thought pix_ouput a -1 as the frame count when it did not properly load a
movie (there is something in the doc related to that) but I can not get it
to work.
Tom
On 6/22/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:
Hello,
I sometimes encounter messages error:
oups: pix_ouput = pix_film outputed
On 6/22/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought pix_ouput a -1 as the frame count when it did not properly load
a movie (there is something in the doc related to that) but I can not get it
to work.
Tom
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