[PD] externals scrubar inversion of control

2008-10-11 Thread carmen r
someone f'd up the externals/ dir on SVN big time theres 118K (!!!) makefile at toplevel, with instructions for (all? most?) subdirectories subdirectory makefiles do weird sed/regex hell just to essentialyl cd .. and send their directory name to the megascript WTF???

Re: [PD] Building Externals

2008-10-11 Thread carmen r
On Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 07:15:59PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Alex hat gesagt: // Alex wrote: Can someone tell me how to build the new svn externals? I downloaded from the svn: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals I run make mrpeach [I'm

Re: [PD] Building Externals

2008-10-11 Thread carmen r
btw why is additionally depending on ../packages/ and ../build/ and ../scripts/ good? this change bugged me ever since it occured but i refrained from mentioning, since at least someone was motivated to work on maintenance imo /externals should be self-sufficient, like it always was you can

Re: [PD] Building Externals

2008-10-11 Thread carmen r
'externals' cannot be self-sufficient since it will always depend on the headers in 'pd'. the existing scripts were smart enough to find m_pd.h (and the other headers) alonside externals/, or its parent directory see miXed/ it still works that way the issue is you introduced dependencies

Re: [PD] cheapest possibility, many audio players or outputs

2008-09-11 Thread carmen r
On Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 06:42:28PM +0200, simone-www.io-lab.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:57 PM, smilingmolecule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hallo list, i know this is not a special pd question but i think there are some points which touch pd. i ask this question here cause i think

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread carmen
On Mon May 07, 2007 at 01:26:09PM -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: You are right, I just started looking through the Toxy library examples, and so far it looks really nice! I'm excited about this! How do these sliders and such compare with the iemgui objects in terms of gridlock? you mean like

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread carmen
On Mon May 07, 2007 at 02:08:12PM -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: One question I have with the toxy sliders is this: in the multiscale-test.pd file, there are some really neat sliders, but how do you create these, and what are the creation arguments? [widget widgetname widgetref moreargs]

Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL

2007-04-28 Thread carmen
On Sat Apr 28, 2007 at 02:37:27PM -0400, Stephen Sinclair wrote: Hello, I've created an XPCOM component that wraps LibLo, allowing you to communicate via OSC with JavaScript. It's sort of raw right now, and hasn't yet been ported to Windows or OS X, but doing so shouldn't be too hard. I

Re: [PD] ebuild naming

2007-04-18 Thread carmen
im trying to get the ebuild to build http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Software/pd-0.41-0test04.src.tar.gz and wondering about the necessity of this line: MY_P=${P/_p/-} i think this means i need a pd-0.41_p0test04.ebuild but portage says: !!! media-sound/pd-0.41_p0test04 does not follow

Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?

2007-04-18 Thread carmen
On Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:44:37AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am a big fan of Debian because the package management is so well done. admittedly i havent used debian or related distrii for 2-3 years, so maybe my info is obsolete, but the package manager isnt that great. the

Re: [PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2

2007-04-16 Thread carmen
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 03:44:25AM +0200, federico wrote: I forgot: actually, in the pd-overlay repository, many ebuilds have version - meaning that they are fetched from CVS (a trick to make they appear the latest version). URL pls. i find a link to an XML file on sourceforge, that might

Re: [PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2

2007-04-15 Thread carmen
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 03:39:25AM +0200, federico wrote: just some notes: I was thinking on how to manage releases, since many externals do not have releases numbers. also: in gentoo binary packages aren't much in use. gentoo *is* a build farm: the user compiles the softwares that wants to

Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...

2007-02-25 Thread carmen
On Sun Feb 25, 2007 at 01:51:33AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Jared, for what it's worth, I've been working with PD for years and I still can't read most other people's patches ;-) Everybody has their own style, their

Re: [PD] thread titles

2007-02-24 Thread carmen
On Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 02:21:13AM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Hi jared, I'm guessing hard off was referring to your changing the subject line of your emails, which for those of us using threading mail clients throws off the conversation (i.e. their tracking and organizing of related

Re: [PD] minor but persistent annoyances

2007-02-23 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 07:42:07AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: no, that is a known problem which also appears under windows. but maybe not under linux. I've never encountered problem 1), the resizing, on my Linux machines.

Re: [PD] spigot~

2007-02-23 Thread carmen
On Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 03:10:17AM -, jared wrote: Hey all. I just downloaded a patch from this archive: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-08/030467.html I visited ydegoyon's site. I need spigot~ to run the patch. No chance that spigot~ has been ported for Windows?

Re: [PD] spigot~

2007-02-23 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 10:57:11PM -0500, carmen wrote: On Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 03:10:17AM -, jared wrote: Hey all. I just downloaded a patch from this archive: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-08/030467.html I visited ydegoyon's site. I need spigot~ to run

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread carmen
with server-side Pd. The Google SOC can be about anything, but Pd has these very good advantages over other dataflow languages : * can be used with no GUI (server-side) you're joking? before i submitted pd to the dataflow category in dmoz, everythign there was some kind of programming

Re: [PD] Playing .flv files

2007-02-16 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:42:16PM -0500, Stephen Sinclair wrote: ffmpeg seems to be convert an flv quite well for me, in Ubuntu Dapper: ffmpeg -i video.flv -acodec copy -o video.avi neither gridflow, mapod, framestein, pdp, or gem use libffmpeg internally? i guess they all contain an ad hoc

Re: [PD] Playing .flv files

2007-02-16 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 03:01:33PM -0600, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: FYI, FLV has two different codecs associated with it right now: Sorensen Spark (Flash 7 player) and On2 TrueMotion VP6, which requires Flash 8 and above. This is also in the Wikipedia entry though, but I thought I'd reiterate it

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread carmen
this to complain. Is there a solution I don't know about? Is this an issue that's currently being worked on? yes its been worked on quite a bit, in the desiredata project.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread carmen
On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 11:06:32AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, John H hat gesagt: // John H wrote: This is my first submission to this mailing list, so I hope I'm not completely in the wrong here. I've searched through all the daily digests that I've received in the past few

Re: [PD] hotkey scrolling within patches?

2007-02-13 Thread carmen
On Tue Feb 13, 2007 at 06:50:53PM -0800, Rich E wrote: Hi list, Does anyone know of a good linux window manager that would allow me to scroll left/right or up/down within a pd patch with the use of hotkeys? In Gnome and Blackbox, I can scroll up and down with the trackpad, but I really

Re: [PD] installing linux

2007-02-13 Thread carmen
On Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 03:55:57AM -, jared wrote: Hello list, I want to install linux on an old laptop. What distro do you guys use? Which distro is most stable for PD work? Are some distros more suited for audio apps? gentoo with the proaudio overlay is great. if you have an aversion

Re: [PD] render pd files

2007-02-05 Thread carmen
On Mon Feb 05, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0500, vade wrote: Yeah. Those are really great. it would be lovely if PD proper could use SVG/vector format for the main GUI element, rather than bitmaps. THis would really give PD a huge edge, and allow for re-use in other areas on other platforms,

Re: [PD] mootcher external - freesound

2007-02-04 Thread carmen
I beleive the problem at the moment is that the cUrl library doesn't load any pages anymore for some reason. That is why it already stops working at the login, because it has to check whether the login and pass are correct.. that was alreayd happening for me back when it supposedly worked.

Re: [PD] the state of VST plugins in Pd

2007-02-03 Thread carmen
On Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 10:11:34PM -0500, David NG McCallum wrote: Hi all, I know that there was some activity going on at some point with using VST plugins in Pd, and I got the impression that there were several unrelated objects, or legacy objects, and I was never really sure which the

Re: [PD] Live Apectrum Analyzer

2007-02-02 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 09:43:09AM -0600, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Good point. The idea of 'hearing an image' is great in theory, but will end up sounding like a clone of Aphex Twin's equation track. nope. unless you use metasynth. afaik theres still no options in there for image resynthesis

Re: [PD] hans is it possible to include jack?

2007-02-02 Thread carmen
On Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 06:58:17PM +, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hi is it possible to include jack support on next 39.2 extended RC for intel? in 0.41 --enable-jack is still required to even test for jack. maybe that script should be fixed? thanks

Re: [PD] Live Apectrum Analyzer

2007-02-01 Thread carmen
On Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:20:36AM +, Jamie Bullock wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 23:48 -0500, carmen wrote: if you dont mind the analysis being offline, check out sonic visualiser: http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/ CLAM might have one. see a full-color spectrogram in one

Re: [PD] Live Apectrum Analyzer

2007-02-01 Thread carmen
So, for now, I'd ask for some specific objects: How can I split lists of audio data, as [snapshot~] only outputs the first value? if you mean turn them into lists of floats from a signal, theres unpack~, drip, and similar. you probably want an intermediary table anyways, to eg use a

Re: [PD] render pd files

2007-02-01 Thread carmen
On Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:46:22PM +, Jeff Sandys wrote: Is there a way to render a .pd file to make a printable graphic besides loading the file into PD?as in: $ renderPD input_patch.pd output_graphic.png This would be useful for documentation and could be a nice addition to a web

Re: [PD] Live Apectrum Analyzer

2007-01-31 Thread carmen
On Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:46:39AM +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi, I think that Tapestrea does something like this (and lots more). http://taps.cs.princeton.edu/ ..if you want to do a ton of concurrent analysis, and have openGL acceleration working, Tapestrea might be cool (ATI hates me

Re: [pd] gui redraw improved by holding down a random key

2007-01-29 Thread carmen
On Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 02:55:12PM -0600, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Yes, try to capture a short video screen capture! be sure to capture at about 100 fps, so it doesnt introduce much jitter / quantization error of its own, so we can tell whats _really_ going on in your patch There are a number

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-12 Thread carmen
On Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 03:03:07PM +0100, Malte Steiner wrote: yeah, expensive locked down boutique device, Apple gets worse all the time, there have been different times when they were much more open. But, at least when they drop now the 'Computers' in the name, now we know that they focuse

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread carmen
On Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 10:59:56PM -0500, Matthew Shanley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to be the buzz kill, but this hurts me as much as anyone else. Word on the street is that there will be no possibility of software development or installation of software by

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Iann iX 0.638ß

2007-01-09 Thread carmen
On Tue Jan 09, 2007 at 06:44:11PM -0500, Pall Thayer wrote: Obviously, it's a niX lanifier. For lanifying niXes. If you don't lan your niXes regularly, they could explode. you misread. its Ian, not lan. like an Ianizing filtration system of 70s musical ideas into 00 software implementations..

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread carmen
On Mon Jan 08, 2007 at 10:58:08PM +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 16:25 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how should it be integrated into the development process of pd? maybe it whouldnt be so pd specific.

Re: [PD] glitch when using switch~ to apply fx

2007-01-04 Thread carmen
On Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:39:45PM -0500, patrick wrote: hi, here's a patch that use switch~ to turn off/on an effect. using switch~ will save some cpu when the effect is turn off right? so that is good, but the thing is i have a glitch when switching... 06:29 c how do you keep the

Re: [PD] 64 Studio and a 64bit pd

2006-12-31 Thread carmen
You could build the Pd-extended package on yoyur machine with the right compiler flags, then everything should be 64-bit. Even better would be to help generate debian packages from the Pd-extended build system. That is happening already with the PlanetCCRMA RPMs. mkdir pure-data cd

Re: [PD] [*] vs [*~]

2006-12-31 Thread carmen
Yes, a lot of this kind of stuff is done for efficiency's sake, like messages vs. audio rate data. also for efficieny's sake (on the implementation side), some of the newer graphical dataflow / patcher engines consider them one and the same, and solve the rate-efficiency issue by allowing a

Re: [PD] soundfile_info can't read 32-bit IEEE float

2006-12-31 Thread carmen
On Sun Dec 31, 2006 at 02:35:55PM -0500, patrick wrote: InfoAudio and sndfile-info .. part of AFSP and libsndfile those tools cannot be use inside pure data (as external) right? is there a solution inside pure data to get all the information about a WAV in 32-bit IEEE float format? you

Re: [PD] [*] vs [*~]

2006-12-27 Thread carmen
I have some newbie questions here... why is it that [*] is only for floats, whereas if you want to multiply two signals one has to use [*~] ? And then why is it that [*~] can multiply a signal by a float, but [*] can't do that? because according to Pd rules its not OK to confuse the user

Re: [PD] adding the Pd lists to GMANE

2006-12-17 Thread carmen
On Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 12:51:27AM +, Peter Plessas wrote: Hi, that sounds like a good idea, but me personally, i don't like redundancy in information, so since there is already the searchable list archive at http://lists.puredata.info, i'd suggest we leave it there and point people to

Re: [PD] status on intel core duo?

2006-12-13 Thread carmen
pd-0.41 (his is: the current CVS), seems to work fine on my amd64 (the only problems i had with earlier versions were the tables) it was freezing on launch here until start with -noaudio, then i realize the configure.in generates a script that still doesn't properly detect jack.. manually

Re: [PD] Midi sequencing

2006-12-04 Thread carmen
On Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 09:20:02PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: hi cypod On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 09:22 -0800, Cypod wrote: Hi PD list, Can anybody recommend a midi sequencing application that works well with pd and possibly jack? what you mean by 'works well' is heavily dependent on

Re: [PD] Midi sequencing

2006-12-04 Thread carmen
maybe you'me missed my message on LAU list. I was asking for help to install your ix widgets. They seem a lot of fun from the screenshots. tcl error: in ::toxy::longvishook: invalid command name ::ix::mat_new miXed consistency check failed: widgettype_doload yeah i saw that. sorry, unable to

Re: [PD] desiredata knows how to handle a crash

2006-12-02 Thread carmen
On Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 07:42:15PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Tired of all pd windows just disappearing suddenly, without explanation? Look at this: http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/oops.png And then, after you click Oops, you can still select all objects in your patch,

Re: [PD] Calling a Dos Batch script

2006-11-27 Thread carmen
On Mon Nov 27, 2006 at 07:00:43PM -0500, Paul Coleman wrote: Hi everyone, I am trying to get pd to call up a dos batch script that includes CDP (Composers Desktop Project) commands. I know the shell object works on the unix side, but is there a windows equivilent? you can use [popen].

Re: [PD] spectrogram in PD

2006-11-14 Thread carmen
On Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:49:20AM -0800, Rich E wrote: What I have been wanting to see is a nice time vs. frequency/amplitude spectrogram... like something that is very easy to do in matlab with the specgram function. The [sonogram~] object in the unauthorized library comes close, but it is

Re: [PD] [failsafe] to save you when Pd pegs the CPU

2006-11-14 Thread carmen
On Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I was just playing with Alberto Zin's OuterSpace on my poor old 800 MHz laptop. When I opened it the first time, it pegged my CPU and locked me out. I had to power cycle my machine. This isn't the first time