Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Martin . wrote: But, we could also conclude that war/military is commercial, at least in the sense that war is waged for profit, and thus GPL should do GPL is not noncommercial. The GPL even forbids a noncommercial clause to be added. ___

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The GPL doesn't restrict people from doing commercial business with the software (although v3 does try to restrict certain types of monkey business). -Jonathan --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Martin . wrote: From: Martin . Subject: Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian To: "PD List" Date: Sat

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread ALAN BROOKER
I agree but how could such a term ever be enforced if the military were to use it? Through litigation? IMO such a term is unenforceable ... arguably making it redundant-although I am happy to hear other's point of view? On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Martin . wrote: > +1 for including the lin

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread Martin .
+1 for including the line about military use in pd's license. That will make us all happy. And the military then has to use maxmsp. Though, I assume it means military institutions and not my own militant guerilla art. But, we could also conclude that war/military is commercial, at least in the se

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-10 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
Bernardo Barros wrote: 2010/12/4 Mathieu Bouchard: It's because GPL is for hippies, or something. It's the other way around. BSD is hippier: Someone in Berkley smoked marijuana and said: "hey man, let's just give it away, who cares what people will do with it, let them turn this into

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-10 Thread Bernardo Barros
2010/12/4 Mathieu Bouchard : > It's because GPL is for hippies, or something. It's the other way around. BSD is hippier: Someone in Berkley smoked marijuana and said: "hey man, let's just give it away, who cares what people will do with it, let them turn this into proprietary or whatever". I don'

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: I don't get all this discussion... why not just stick with plain GPL? It's because GPL is for hippies, or something. That's why Google Code restricted the possible licenses to choose... What's why ? I don't follow. Do you really know why Google di

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Derek Holzer
I read somewhere they used the Pd test-tone patch to torture inmates at Guantanamo Bay. Doesn't that suck? We certainly wouldn't want a license which allows that kind of thing to happen, would we? D. On 12/4/10 9:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Well, I hope they are all joking. I bel

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Well, I hope they are all joking. I believe SourceForge also only allows code with free licenses, so code with such restrictions would not be allowed on SourceForge. But I could be wrong there. .hc On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I don't get all this discussion... w

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Bernardo Barros
I don't get all this discussion... why not just stick with plain GPL? That's why Google Code restricted the possible licenses to choose... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: From now on I refuse to allow my code to be used in anything that sucks. The licensee thereby agrees to not make fan videos of Kate Ryan or Avril Lavigne or Johnny Halliday, no matter how noncommercial you may be doing it. __

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-04 Thread Pagano, Patrick
_or a sexually aroused gas mask. ___ From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of João Pais [jmmmp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:40 PM To: pd-list@iem.at; Derek Holzer Subject: Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-03 Thread Ludwig Maes
The processor running Pd must not be inside the vacuum cleaner, so we can still use his precious code :) as long as the processor blows its OK i guess... On 4 December 2010 02:40, João Pais wrote: >>  From now on I refuse to allow my code to be used in anything that sucks. > > so you'll never try

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-03 Thread João Pais
From now on I refuse to allow my code to be used in anything that sucks. so you'll never try to control a vacuum cleaner with Pd... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-03 Thread Derek Holzer
From now on I refuse to allow my code to be used in anything that sucks. D. On 12/3/10 5:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : * any project that promotes : racism, national

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) «Nationalism» is a broad wo

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-03 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
i want to like this reply, but i can't find the facebook 'like' button On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 05:46:22PM +0100, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > > good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!! > > yeh! > > sevy > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extend

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
thank you officer you'll stay in too, you made your good job of tracking deviants, a song for you : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULKw8s061E ciao, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: PDP has a regular GPL license, so its staying in. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Patrick Pagano wrote:

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Patrick Pagano wrote: removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea it's also a bad idea to cause the simple things that cause people to want to remove pidip. if the military decides to use pidip for military use, chances it will be classified information, and no-one of us will eve

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
PDP has a regular GPL license, so its staying in. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Patrick Pagano wrote: removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea On 11/23/2010 11:58 AM, John Harrison wrote: Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-e

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick Pagano
removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea On 11/23/2010 11:58 AM, John Harrison wrote: Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-extended is very unfortunate. I hope at some point you reconsider your position. -John On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 a

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread John Harrison
Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-extended is very unfortunate. I hope at some point you reconsider your position. -John On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > > good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!!

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!! yeh! sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on this license. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr wrote: jooo, que espeso ... i told you 1 times not to package my stu