Hi,
I may have been sensitive, I needed 2 days break, sorry. If we focus on the
important facts, I received really constructive feedbacks and I've been
able to improve the library for the next release.
Joao suggestions :
- The properties window will have a fixed size.
- We can set (in the code)
i very much doubt miller will include stuff in vanilla that's not backwards
compatible. seeing as how these objects don't even work with my
(relatively) recent 0.42.5 version, i can't see how they'd pass.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
I
Well, backwards compatibility can have reasonable limitations and perhaps this
is one.
On Jan 13, 2014, at 6:18 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
i very much doubt miller will include stuff in vanilla that's not backwards
compatible. seeing as how these objects don't even work with
is it possible/feasible to add a switch so that "old" objects don't get replaced by the new ones? e.g. by analysing the parameters of the creation objects? if so, and someone delivers the code for this (I don't know how to do it myself), there might be a better chance of these objects making it
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Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Date: January 3, 2014 at 8:26:17 AM EST
To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at
I offers a library for Pd and not only on Pd-extented. It would have been
annoying to put the iem's prepend in the distribution
are admittedly utilitarian (but
have their own charm).
On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:35 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
From: Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Date: January 3, 2014 at 8:26:17 AM EST
To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
Cc: PD List
I don't have any plans, I was only responding in a hypothetical manner. I'm
busy on a show right now and can't do pd dev. A better person to ask is Miller
...
On Jan 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
What is your plan for getting the necessary features into
On 01/10/2014 12:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I don't have any plans, I was only responding in a hypothetical
manner. I'm busy on a show right now and can't do pd dev. A better
person to ask is Miller ...
I must have misunderstood-- the way you wrote that made it sound like
there is a process by
Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Date: January 3, 2014 at 8:26:17 AM EST
To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at
I offers a library for Pd and not only on Pd-extented. It would have been
annoying to put the iem's
*Subject: **Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee*
*Date: *January 3, 2014 at 8:26:17 AM EST
*To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
*Cc: *PD List pd-list@iem.at
I offers a library for Pd and not only on Pd-extented. It would have been
annoying to put the iem's prepend in the distribution (I
, at 10:35 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
*From: *Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com
*Subject: **Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee*
*Date: *January 3, 2014 at 8:26:17 AM EST
*To: *IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
*Cc: *PD List pd-list@iem.at
I offers a library for Pd
@peiman : I thought about something that creates ramp lines with a specific
interpolations but I think you're right, the best way is to fill an array
(much more efficient). So, now I offer a cosine interpolation and cubic
interpolation, this is easy to use and if you add some points you can
create
You can do the same with bezier curve, you don't click on a line segment
but you move a control point.
Cheers
2014/1/6 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
Hi Pierre,
Sounds great. Although I would love to see ej.function's (Max external)
functionality here. Please see the attached
Great.
Thanks!
Peiman
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On 6 January 2014 12:46, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote:
You can do the same with
if you want only one segment, you can use the abstraction [jmmmp/bezier].Great.
Thanks!Peiman
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On 6 January 2014 12:46, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote:
You can do the same with bezier curve, you don't click on a line segment but
I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought
that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if
it's your principal wish.
@Scott : The range slider is added to the todo list !
@Peiman : There're several ways to create curves. How do you think
to make things more complicated, I would suggest the possibility to turn segments (none or all should be enough?) into straight lines or bezier curves.This would make my abstraction [jmmmp/bezier] not necessary anymore, which is a good thing.Thanks Peiman. This could be useful. I add it to the
On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote:
I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought
that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if
it's your principal wish.
i don't think you've hurt anybody; and so far the only one who has
been
I offers a library for Pd and not only on Pd-extented. It would have been
annoying to put the iem's prepend in the distribution (I don't think that
Thomas Musil would have be happy) and it would have strange to ask the user
to download one external here and another here. I've made c.prepend and
yeah, I was finding the coffee library to be kind of reductant, these
functionalities have already been achieved by other libraries in Pd
Extended, but the GUI stuff is gold, I think it's time we could have
something like that as an option in Pd Extended!
2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig
On 2014-01-01 22:20, enrike wrote:
hi
the linux binaries are compiled for 64 bits machines? I get this error
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Coffee/c.patcherargs.pd_linux:
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Coffee/c.patcherargs.pd_linux: wrong ELF
class: ELFCLASS64
yes they are (and should have the
On 2013-12-31 11:46, Pierre Guillot wrote:
Quickly : Chocolate is a set of GUIs sometimes already available in PD
Vanilla, PD extented or Max with new features (like presets edition) that I
hope, you'll enjoy.
as said before: they are great.
And it will be a part of a more complex project
For Chocolate : I made this library because I wanted to have other
behaviors than those available in Vanilla or Extented, I think that design
and ergonomics are really important and can change your approach (I'm not a
specialist, but that seems obvious). Nevertheless, I understand that people
a PD newbie perspective...
i'm personally in agreement with Dan that these should be in Vanilla, and
probably in Extended too. i do agree the functioning should be the same as
the current GUI works, for consistency. based on my experience with a few
of the extra GUI objects in pd-extended, i have
On 01/02/2014 08:09 AM, Pierre Guillot wrote:
For Chocolate : I made this library because I wanted to have other
behaviors than those available in Vanilla or Extented, I think that
design and ergonomics are really important and can change your
approach (I'm not a specialist, but that seems
These are amazing, thanks for sharing.
One feature request: any chance *breakpoints* could enable the user to
create curved lines? Something like alt+drag a line segment...
Thanks
Peiman
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Thanks Peiman. This could be useful. I add it to the todo list with the
Joao ideas.
2014/1/2 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
These are amazing, thanks for sharing.
One feature request: any chance *breakpoints* could enable the user to
create curved lines? Something like alt+drag a
another request for the list - a horizontal or vertical range slider,
perhaps? two inlets on either end, one for each side of the range. good for
looping or granular range selection...
scott
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Peiman. This
On 2014-01-02 20:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Realize that you're responding to someone who gave his library the
extraordinarily clear and descriptive name of zexy
i'm arguing not for *descriptive* titles but for *non-deceptive* ones.
i don't know which associations zexy evokes for you, but for
@IOhannes : I explain in @chocolate.pd, you should be in edit mode to popup
the menu (I hope it works on your Linux distrib).
ah yes. it does work.
but this is different than how it usually works in Pd (where you can
right-click even in run-mode to get the context menu; whether the
default Pd
There are 2 reasons :
- The popup menu stop the dsp, I think it could be annoying during live
session if you make a mistake.
- Sometimes you want to have another behavior in run mode (another popup
menu for example, like hoa.map) and I think it would be strange to have
objects with the popup menu
On 2014-01-01 19:42, Pierre Guillot wrote:
There are 2 reasons :
- The popup menu stop the dsp, I think it could be annoying during live
session if you make a mistake.
why does it do this? i don't experience this behaviour with the vanilla
objects.
- Sometimes you want to have another
hi
the linux binaries are compiled for 64 bits machines? I get this error
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Coffee/c.patcherargs.pd_linux:
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Coffee/c.patcherargs.pd_linux: wrong ELF
class: ELFCLASS64
enrike
ar., 2013.eko aberen 31a 11:46(e)an, Pierre Guillot(e)k idatzi
Hi Pierre,this looks very nice. Are you thinking of including it in pd-ext?Hi everybody,I'm pleased to share my new libraries : Chocolate Coffee.For the HOA project, I've developed a C library to facilitate the creation of graphical objects for Pure Data and to allow further interactions with
Just tried it shortly. A couple of suggestions:- the properties window is very small, the text elements are hard to read (XP, pd-ext 0.43)- do you plan to have color selectors in the properties window? or just with text?- would it be useful if your GUI objects also have built-in send and receive
Holy shit. Can these eventually replace the vanilla objects??!!
On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
From: Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com
Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Date: December 31, 2013 at 11:46:54 AM GMT+1
To: pd-annou...@iem.at
Hi João,
- I'll will force the size of the properties window in the next release.
Really easy but I forget to do it.
- The properties windows are auto generated with the attributes of the
objects and I plan to add new features :
sections, color picker, menu when the possibilities are predefined
Some of us can help with that :D
On Dec 31, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote:
- I didn't schedule to add the library to pd extented because it's already a
lot of work and I'm ashamed but I'm not very familiar with the Makefile...
And the default one seems
The Vanilla objects have the advantage to work fine on computers with very
few memory and old graphic cards or on the hardwares like the raspberry pi.
My objects don't need the best computer but I think if I use a very old
computer I'll have some latency.
But thank you ! And for Pd-extented, I'm
Hah I know but I imagine there could be a way to fallback to the original
implementations. My reaction was based mostly on how nice they look. That seems
to be important to some people and I've had to push them in workshops to not
dismiss Pd purely because it doesn't look like Max (go figure
It's just a matter of using open-source tools for compiling this, I
think using mingw for example on windows instead of VB would resolve
inclusion in pd-extended, there is a makefile template in pd-extended
sources.
This project looks really nice otherwise, this seem to not apply the
same
On 2013-12-31 14:12, Pierre Guillot wrote:
Hi João,
- I'll will force the size of the properties window in the next release.
Really easy but I forget to do it.
properties window?
i seem to have missed this, as whenever i right-click on e.g. [c.bang]
it emits a bang instead of opening a
@Patrice : I use code::block for Linux, I think it's open source but for
Windows and Mac, I'm too many attracted by the comfort of XCode and Visual
Studio... Anyways, a good Makefile is the solution ! For GUIs, I create a
canvas in a window, the best way to clip drawing and to receive all the
On 2013-12-31 16:57, Pierre Guillot wrote:
@Patrice : I use code::block for Linux, I think it's open source but for
Windows and Mac, I'm too many attracted by the comfort of XCode and Visual
Studio... Anyways, a good Makefile is the solution ! For GUIs, I create a
yes, Makefiles are always
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