Chris McCormick wrote:
In this particular case of Andre's legato object,
The name is Atte :-)
I see no positive
reason whatsoever for it being an external. I see several positive
reasons for it being an abstraction:
I made it because I needed it and I couldn't find a similar
Hi
I think I installed py/pyext allright, but it doesn't seem to work. For
instance opening pd/script-1.pd in pd prints the following:
Opened Alsa Client 128 in:1 out:1
py/pyext 0.2.0 - python script objects
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Patrick Valiquet wrote:
Hi folks:
TIFFOpen: /home/patrick/Desktop/rainbows/images/1109200735/1.jpg:
Cannot open.
*** glibc detected *** pd: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08314c4c ***
are you using nvidia's binary drivers?
there is a long outstanding bug somewhere upstream (nvidia-glx,
Hans Steiner wrote:
Here's my first stab at representing classes, selectors, and
libraries in the wiki:
http://pdpedia.at.or.at/test/index.php
Feedback please!
i don't understand the differentiation between the toplevel Class and
Library: e.g.
Library/zexy vs. Class/zexy/drip
why not
Hallo Marius!
Only some small questions:
for what are the TAGS,TAGS,TAGS ? (in your csv file no object uses
them)
OBJECTNAME,ABBREVIATION,DESCRIPTION,LIBRARY,CATEGORY,TAGS,TAGS,TAGS,HELP
PATCH
And to the categories: do you want to list objects per category
afterwards, which would meen that
Hi Atte,
i guess it's in the archive many times already: You probably don't
have the script folder in your pd path.
greetings, Thomas
Am 12.09.2007 um 08:49 schrieb Atte André Jensen:
Hi
I think I installed py/pyext allright, but it doesn't seem to work.
For
instance opening
hi thomas,
i guess it's in the archive many times already: You probably don't
have the script folder in your pd path.
i am not that familiar with the py/pyext internals, but what about
adding the path of the patch, that is instantiating the script, to the
python search paths temporarily? in
Hi Tim,
the patch path is always added tp the python path, probably exactly
as it is in Nova.
The scripts folder that comes with the Python package is separate
from the patches though.
greetings, Thomas
Am 12.09.2007 um 11:31 schrieb Tim Blechmann:
hi thomas,
i guess it's in the archive
Thomas Grill wrote:
i guess it's in the archive many times already: You probably don't have
the script folder in your pd path.
Great, thanks. Sorry for asking...
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I tried to search online about this and saw that pix_image might have a
caching system in it. is that true? does it cache images that have
already been loaded? if so, why, and is there any way to turn this off?
I'm writing to image JPG file called showme.jpg every couple of
minutes. The
Hej thomas
i just wanted to ask if you had already the time to look into it?
if so please lemme know - cause i would like to use it in an actual projé!
thanksgreets
olsen
On 9/3/07, Thomas Grill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
it's possible that i introduced a mismatch of versions of flext and
Hi Olsen,
actually no, but i will have time next week. You could try to fetch
an older version of py/pyext from the cvs in the meantime.
greetings, Thomas
Am 12.09.2007 um 14:03 schrieb olsen wolf:
Hej thomas
i just wanted to ask if you had already the time to look into it?
if so please
Hi!
This is driving me nuts! I just can't find a way to open and read an mp3
file in pd on windows. mp3play~ outputs an error message whenever I put
something into it. Can anyone tell me how these files should be encoded in
order to be red properly? Thanks.
Hi Atte
attached patch should do it.
mvh/Steffen Leve Poulsen
Atte André Jensen skrev:
Chris McCormick wrote:
In this particular case of Andre's legato object,
The name is Atte :-)
I see no positive
reason whatsoever for it being an external. I see several positive
reasons for it being
I was able to play mp3s in Windows with through a vst and the vst~ external.
It worked great.
The vst mp3 player: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/604.html (almost everything
can be controlled with vst~)
Tom
On 9/12/07, David Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
This is driving me nuts! I
This is driving me nuts! I just can't find a way to open and read an mp3
file in pd on windows. mp3play~ outputs an error message whenever I put
something into it. Can anyone tell me how these files should be encoded in
order to be red properly? Thanks.
sorry that readanysf~ is not yet
Thomas O Fredericks schrieb:
I was able to play mp3s in Windows with through a vst and the vst~
external. It worked great.
The vst mp3 player: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/604.html (almost
everything can be controlled with vst~)
It is also possible to play mp3 files with the mpe player from
Georg Holzmann wrote:
It is also possible to play mp3 files with the mpe player from iemlib
(iem_mp3), which should work under windows too.
The object is called [mp3play~].
have your read this thread?
fmasdr
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since it is easy to change, I did not care so much about the structure.
I just pasted the basic information. there should be only one tags
field, but sometimes I got a second or a third. for example pdmtl
abstractions had flags, which I am not exactly sure, what they are
for, but I kept them.
we have to talk about structure first.
I am against category structure, because category is not always clear.
I am also against library structure, because that is just an arbitrary
structure for me, worse than categories.
for name clashes make a disambiguation page or directly jump to the
object
same as previous, but only trigger at the beginning of phrase.
Steffen Leve Poulsen
Steffen Leve Poulsen skrev:
Hi Atte
attached patch should do it.
mvh/Steffen Leve Poulsen
Atte André Jensen skrev:
But I'm looking forward to seeing your implementation as an
abstraction, it will help me
marius schebella wrote:
we have to talk about structure first.
true
I am against category structure, because category is not always clear.
true
I am also against library structure, because that is just an arbitrary
structure for me, worse than categories.
well, but what is wrong with an
IOhannes m zmoelnig schrieb:
Georg Holzmann wrote:
It is also possible to play mp3 files with the mpe player from iemlib
(iem_mp3), which should work under windows too.
The object is called [mp3play~].
have your read this thread?
I thought yes, but maybe its a problem of my mail
Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
same as previous, but only trigger at the beginning of phrase.
It doesn't seem to work as I expected. Should I do something special to
get it to play first note when releasing the second?
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Atte
http://atte.dk |
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
I am also against library structure, because that is just an arbitrary
structure for me, worse than categories.
well, but what is wrong with an arbitrary structure?
pd-development (i am talking about externals) is chaotic and arbitrary:
how stable is the library
Hallo,
Steffen Leve Poulsen hat gesagt: // Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
attached patch should do it.
But doesn't: Atte's legato also stores notes that have been pressed but
not released and recalls them, if other notes get released.
Ciao
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Frank
marius schebella wrote:
how stable is the library structure? if it is stable over several years,
then it could be arbitrary. but some objects jump around. from zexy to
iem (mtx?), from iemlib1 to iemlib (don't know if that is really the
case...) from iemlib to puredata core (gui)... from
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On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:55:36PM +0200, Thomas Mayer wrote:
Hi,
I've just uploaded a music video rendered with Pd/Gem to a track of
mine. The track is done with Pd, Hydrogen and Ardour.
http://www.last.fm/music/Residuum/+videos
could you send a direct URL to the
Thanks for the info Iohannes. Should have known it would be a driver
issue. Unfortunately the problem persists whether I compile with or
without ImageMagick.
I'd troubleshooting to try to find a way to work around this. The
problem was that the images I'm sending to [pix_multiimage] are being
Patrick Valiquet wrote:
After I've loaded a set of pictures into [pix_multiimage], I try to
replace it with a second set of images. When I send the message to
load the second set, I get an exception with:
*** glibc detected *** pd: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08446244 ***
Is this normal
OK I havent tried your external.
Can you describe it's functionality.
Or send me the DLL.
mvh Steffen Leve Poulsen
Atte André Jensen skrev:
Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
same as previous, but only trigger at the beginning of phrase.
It doesn't seem to work as I expected. Should I do
Hi
I normally run things from a sequencer (muse) and this also holds for my
current project. But I have a problem I'd like to solve with pd. I'd
like to have an arpeggiator running in sync with muse, representing a
few chords that's changing through the song.
My first thought was to have pd
ok, so the library structure is stable and repacking is not an argument
against library structure, but still, somehow it concerns me that
libraries create a virtual border in the heads of people. I am still in
favor of the flat structure.
anyway, pd IS structured around libraries... although
hi marius, hi iohannes
sorry to chime whitout having participated yet to this discussion at
all,
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
how stable is the library structure? if it is stable over several years,
then it could be arbitrary.
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 10:09 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
It's a bit easier with [list] now, but it involves lists that
constantly change their size (to buffer lists) which is something where
[list] will become slow for larger lists. So an external may still be
useful.
is speed an issue with
Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
OK I havent tried your external.
Can you describe it's functionality.
[legato] transforms output from [notein]
inlet 1: note
inlet 2: velocity
inlet 3: mode:
0: last note hit priority (default)
1: low note priority
2: high note priority
outlet 1: note
outlet 2:
Hallo,
Atte Andr? Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte Andr? Jensen wrote:
I normally run things from a sequencer (muse) and this also holds for my
current project. But I have a problem I'd like to solve with pd. I'd
like to have an arpeggiator running in sync with muse, representing a
few chords
Hallo,
Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 10:09 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
It's a bit easier with [list] now, but it involves lists that
constantly change their size (to buffer lists) which is something where
[list] will become slow for larger
Hallo,
Atte Andr? Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte Andr? Jensen wrote:
Or send me the DLL.
What's a DLL?
It would be called *.pd_win, if Bill Gates was Linus Thorvalds.
Ciao
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Atte Andr? Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte Andr? Jensen wrote:
Or send me the DLL.
What's a DLL?
It would be called *.pd_win, if Bill Gates was Linus Thorvalds.
actually pd searches for a .m_i386 before it tries .dll
mf.asdr
IOhannes
PS: having a hard time to
Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi marius, hi iohannes
however, this is actually a different story, but probably affects the
way we want to implement the wiki. since there _are_ incompatibilites
between pd-vanilla/original libs and pd-extended, i vehemently propose
to decide which route to follow for
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 19:51 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
but what about all those libraries that are not in pd-extended?
do they have to stay outside the wiki until they are extendified?
i'd say, they could be included as well, of course, but in the same
manner as they probably are going
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 18:17 +0200, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Ok, I could go on and do my second external (since I would be able to
write this up in C in no time), but I'm wondering:
1) Is there a similar wheel out there?
there probably many ways to do it. i personally think, that the
You cannot access IRC with iChat, but there is a nice IRC client for
OS X called Colloquy (http://colloquy.info/).
~Kyle
On 9/11/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ähem... where is the chat? can I use iChat?
marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:05 PM,
Roman Haefeli wrote:
anyway, i think this task is a good example to get in contact with the
logic of pd a bit. i encourage you to go on and ask the list again, if
you need specific help.
Thanks to both of you. I think I'll go for an abstraction, esp since I'm
not really in a hurry here and I
Marius and I are sitting here arguing over whether we should use the
term class or object in the pdpedia as the standard term for
differentiation, e.g. bang (class) vs. bang (selector).
I think the current usage of the term object in Pd has two
meanings: an instance of a class, and the
as hans already knew, I disagree. I have not heard the term class
before. I think the term class is really not in use by pd users.
what you (hans) call a class is called an object by everybody else...
[class] -- that is not a class, it is an object.
[message( -- and that is a message.
when we
it took me 5 months to figure out the difference between objects, externals,
and abstractionsgod only knows how much longer it would have taken if
i'd had to deal with 'classes' as well. i probably would have given up.
'object' has always been used (even if it is sometimes incorrectly
how about naming the 'class' 'objectclass' instead?
although you are probably right, marius, that most of the pd users do
not know the term 'class', they'd probably understand 'objectclass'.
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:07 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
as hans already knew, I disagree. I have not
this is how i order notes in a table:
when a new note is input, read through the table until you reach either a 0,
or a number higher than the new note. if you reach a zero, then put the new
note in place of the zero. if you reach a higher note, then shift every
remaining note 1 step forward in
On 12/09/2007, at 21.47, Roman Haefeli wrote:
at least in my opinion the differentiation between a [dac~] and
the 'dac~' in general is quite important.
I would love some insight on that. If you or anyone would care to
elaborate?
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On 12/09/2007, at 19.04, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Of course if you prefer to use C and just want to use Pd as a kind of
library to make things like accessing soundcards or midi ports easier,
just go on with it, this is a perfectly fine use of Pd.
I urge to say that i agree with this. Just to
hi, when i try to do fullscreen on the extended desktop screen(second screen)
... the window appears at fullscreen but in the first screen.
how can i do fullscreen on the second screen on macosx?
thanks
p p
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Need a vacation? Get great
what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object oriented
programming (and maybe other programming too) the instantiation of a
class is called object. but referring to the miller's pd documentation
(html) there are no classes, and he calls classes objects.
'reference patches, one
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:22 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object oriented
programming (and maybe other programming too) the instantiation of a
class is called object. but referring to the miller's pd documentation
(html) there are no
h...
hm...
will you be the one to ask miller to change his documentation?
marius.
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:22 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd. in object oriented
programming (and maybe other programming too) the
Attached has the basics of mode 0.
It's a very good idea you got, great fun to play with.
mvh /Steffen Leve Poulsen
Atte André Jensen skrev:
Steffen Leve Poulsen wrote:
OK I havent tried your external.
Can you describe it's functionality.
[legato] transforms output from [notein]
inlet 1:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:49 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
h...
hm...
will you be the one to ask miller to change his documentation?
marius.
good point.
now, i really don't know what to say
roman
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:22 -0400, marius schebella
Hey all,
my vote is for object, although it's technically incorrect.
Thinking of my course next semester, i guess i would have a hard time
explaining the class/object difference to the students, most of who
have no programming experience at all.
I tend to think that for pd this differentiation
marius schebella wrote:
what you say make sense, it is just not true for Pd.
Look at m_pd.h, you will find class written a lot. In fact the most
important function for writing externals is called class_new.
I vote for removing the confusion that exists currently, by using the
word class
Class is what pd calls objects internally.
For example here is the setup routine for the unpackOSC object:
void unpackOSC_setup(void)
{
unpackOSC_class = class_new(gensym(unpackOSC),
(t_newmethod)unpackOSC_new, (t_method)unpackOSC_free,
sizeof(t_unpackOSC), 0, 0);
Hi,
I've been using GEM for quite a while and I never had to/never did use
the [fullscreen( message to the GEMWin object. The right [offset x y(
combined with the according [size x y( sent to the GEMWin do the job so
well that it never occured to me I'd better use [fullscreen( instead.
This
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, hard off wrote:
it took me 5 months to figure out the difference between objects, externals,
and abstractionsgod only knows how much longer it would have taken if
i'd had to deal with 'classes' as well. i probably would have given up.
'object' has always been used
Am 12.09.2007 um 16:59 schrieb punchik punchik:
how can i do fullscreen on the second screen?
[fullscreen 2(
|
[gemwin]
before window creation
m.
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote:
how about naming the 'class' 'objectclass' instead?
although you are probably right, marius, that most of the pd users do
not know the term 'class', they'd probably understand 'objectclass'.
I often write object class in the context of pd precisely
On 9/12/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been using GEM for quite a while and I never had to/never did use
the [fullscreen( message to the GEMWin object. The right [offset x y(
combined with the according [size x y( sent to the GEMWin do the job so
well that it never
Marius and I had a powwow about the pdpedia structure of the pages,
and I think we are in agreement with this proposal. Here's the outline:
http://pdpedia.at.or.at/test/index.php/Main_Page
- Basically, it's as much like wikipedia as possible. For class/
object names, the canonical page for
IIRC, most if not all of iemmatrix was included in Pd-extended...
.hc
On Sep 11, 2007, at 12:00 PM, punchik punchik wrote:
hi, i got the iemmatrix sources from cvs
im following iohanes advice for compiling using cd
iemmatrix/src/ autoconf ./configure make
when i do autoconf i get
There is a ton of documentation out there, and there are varying
standards about how things are described and named. We can't heed
them all, so we should come up with something that is clean and concise.
The term class has not really been used in Pd land much at all.
The term object has
Hey,
I think this script should try to get all the things that are
definite, and then create a template page in the pdpedia for each:
objectclass
library
author (might need a bit of manual intervention)
language written in (Pd, C, C++)
hmm, not much else...
I think there should be a grabbag
On Sep 12, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi marius, hi iohannes
sorry to chime whitout having participated yet to this discussion at
all,
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
how stable is the library structure? if it is stable
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 00:49 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 12, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi marius, hi iohannes
sorry to chime whitout having participated yet to this discussion at
all,
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
marius
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