by the way, when installing the files and the file already exists
dialog, please add a always button. it's a bit uneffective having to
press the y key for several minutes, until all files are there.
Uninstalling first is a solution to this. Please file a bug report on
that though.
I
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
patrick hat gesagt: // patrick wrote:
i just compiled vanilla pd 0.41.08 but the fonts are not okay;
screenshot attached.
I looked really, really hard, but what's not okay in the screenshot?
me too :-)
i think the labels for the gui-objects (toggles) are
vade wrote:
Personally I find that use of segmented patch coords can *increase*
readability in patches that are well laid out. I have a much easier
time following segmented patch coords that are laid out with care than
a similarly grouped /laid out patch sans segmentation.
while i
Dear List, Simon
Thanks Simon for your kind reply and explanations
So although there might be space for calling that behavior an additional
but questionable 'feature', i consider it an inconsistency in user
interface design. Preferences are preferences, whether they are in a
.pdrc file or in
Now the dependencies are not there so it won't build:
makefile.mingw:297: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
Martin
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Yep, this is fixed in my version (I think) but Ihaven't yet been able to
test it on all platforms (which I prefer to do before releasing new
'tests'...
cheers
Miller
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 03:17:33PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 10:24 +0100, João Miguel Pais wrote:
by the way, when installing the files and the file already exists
dialog, please add a always button. it's a bit uneffective having to
press the y key for several minutes, until all files are there.
Uninstalling first is a
what does libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath
after all, you don't have to care about messages, that are _not_
errors.
my problem was that I couldn't say if that was an error or not. I couldn't
say anything at all about it, in fact. in the previous version I
understood
Ah segmented patch coords again.
How about a real solution to the problem of routing objects in diagrams?
In PD this could mean a few things:
1. Best patching practise!!! Often you can choose not to overlap objects
and connections just by arranging objects as the connections force you
to, which
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Pd 0.40 adds canvas-local namespaces. that message means a library
has been loaded into the global namespace.
ok. but maybe it might be nice to replace it with something in
english. it's nicer to users that don't care about those details.
i don't
Hi.
When trying to use gemwin, I keep getting an error in the pd window which
says: 'GemWindow Activate err = 0'. When this happens I am unable to start
rendering. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks in advance.
Rebecca.
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Wellcome Donal,
i think you are speaking about a to much complex aplication to be and
object (at least nowadays).
You can construct that application with pd, but start from the begining with
the doc.
br.
GARFF
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To:
Hi Derek
Thanks for the reply - to follow on from your info, can I create the
database in PD or would I have to use some other program and then read
from that using PD ?
Cheers
Donal
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To: Donal Carey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
That message means there is no error in creating the gemwin. Do the example
patches work?
On Dec 5, 2007 12:31 PM, Rebecca Schatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi.
When trying to use gemwin, I keep getting an error in the pd window which
says: 'GemWindow Activate err = 0'. When this happens I am
Segmented patch cords fall somewhere between deferred maintenance and turd
polish on the continuum of practicality. Of course in Max you can always
resort to sweeping the whole mess under the rug as a last resort.
Stick that in your revolution!
On Dec 5, 2007 12:42 PM, vade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
B. Bogart wrote:
Ah segmented patch coords again.
How about a real solution to the problem of routing objects in diagrams?
In PD this could mean a few things:
1. Best patching practise!!! Often you can choose not to overlap objects
and connections just by arranging objects as the connections
Hi
This is my first post to the list so I'll do a quick intro and backround. My
name's Donal Carey and I'm currently studying for a Masters in Multimedia
Systems in Trinity College Dublin (Ireland).
I'm starting work on a PD project for use by DJ's in a live performance
context. The basic
I say we meet in a back alleyway and beat the crap out of one another
over this.
:)
On Dec 5, 2007, at 2:04 PM, chris clepper wrote:
Segmented patch cords fall somewhere between deferred maintenance
and turd polish on the continuum of practicality. Of course in Max
you can always
Hi there,
one more: [osc~]
http://wiki.puredata.info/es/osc%7E
For now, the list is
adc~
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Segmenting, coloring, and/or hiding the patch cords aren't going to
magically make every patch clear and easy to follow. Once a patch gets to a
certain level of density it is time to rethink how the whole thing is
structured or find a different tool. Abstractions and subpatches help quite
a bit,
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
I think the key point to take from the whole discussion is that Max/MSP
users have a choice, whilst under Pd we have no choice. It's all very
well justifying how great it is to not have patch chords, but the lack
of that feature/bug definately annoys
So Shawn Van Every and I just did a brainstorm of ideas for using Pd
and Asterisk together. There is a lot of potential there, especially
if a couple key points are addressed. Shawn can speak to the
technical details better than me, he uses it a lot more. I'll bet
there are others who
On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Russell Bryant wrote:
drh270 wrote:
This sounds great!
Cool, thanks for the interest. :)
Chris, in an earlier post mentioned using OSC, he was using a Python
script, so communicating via OSC may be a starting point.
Yeah, I saw that. Thanks for bringing up
Yeah, giving people a CHOICE is certainly condescending, what the [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
you do realize not everyone who uses PD is knowledgeable in the
languages, apis and underlying code base to make the modifications
they may request.
If anyone is being condescending, it is you with your
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Pd 0.40 adds canvas-local namespaces. that message means a library
has been loaded into the global namespace.
Is it possible to load a library of several classes, or of one class and
several aliases, into a canvas namespace? (What about a
Dear god, please, no.
no no no no no. No gradiated patch coords. *please*
I would not mind self routing patch coords, but somehow, whenever a
computer/algorithm/programmer tries to do things for me, like
intelligently re-arrange x, it ends up getting in my way. I suspect
this will be the
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 14:33 -0500, vade wrote:
Yeah, giving people a CHOICE is certainly condescending, what the [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
calm down. i have the impression, that you completely misunderstood
matju's point. or am i misunderstanding something? i think, he meant,
that for (lazy) devs it
On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
B. Bogart wrote:
Ah segmented patch coords again.
How about a real solution to the problem of routing objects in
diagrams?
In PD this could mean a few things:
1. Best patching practise!!! Often you can choose not to overlap
objects
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, chris clepper wrote:
Segmenting, coloring, and/or hiding the patch cords aren't going to
magically make every patch clear and easy to follow.
I'm not expecting magic. I've never expected magic. I don't see what's the
relationship between segmenting/coloring and magic. I
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 16:11 +0100, João Miguel Pais wrote:
what does libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath
after all, you don't have to care about messages, that are _not_
errors.
my problem was that I couldn't say if that was an error or not. I couldn't
say anything
I consider the lack of segmented patch chords a nifty feature that keeps MAX
users away.
I started with PD and am pretty well comfortable in just laying out my
patches in an efficient manner.
As previously stated, there's always [t a] if you ever need a segment.
However, if that is one of the
sorry to bump this older thread, but I'm still having the same trouble
on a debian lenny/testing amd64 box.
I ran autoconf, and changed the -m32 flags, but still get the same
errors as others have been getting. I'm wondering if I have the right
sources. can someone point me to the most recent
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
And how about patch cords that start out one colour and end up another
with
a smooth blend all the way along? Then you could identify different cords
as
well as know which way they were going.
Color really makes things stand out, especially in a black and white
Hi all!
I have edited the Spanish Help wiki page:
- http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Pdpedia:Ayuda
but there is a problem with the link to this page from the English Help wiki
page:
- http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Help:Contents
if you click in Español on other languages bottom left box, this link
Hello all,
Just wanted to let people know that I have put up another release of this.
Basically, this external allows you to create a local SQL database file, and
use it to store any data you might need. This version only supports data in
Floats or Symbols. The next thing to tackle is storing
On Dec 5, 2007, at 4:31 AM, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote:
Has anyone tried the mrpeach network objects? My guess is that
they might solve this problem. [tcpclient] sounds like the most
likely candidate.
.hc
in which lib do i find those objects?...
The pdpedia can actually
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote:
calm down. i have the impression, that you completely misunderstood
matju's point. or am i misunderstanding something? i think, he meant,
that for (lazy) devs it is easier to find a ('condescending') reason to
not implement a certain feature than just
On Dec 5, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Pd 0.40 adds canvas-local namespaces. that message means a library
has been loaded into the global namespace.
Is it possible to load a library of several classes, or of one
class and
Hi guys
As usual a little slow here.
I use a segmented patchcord from time to time, its a dummy [sg] object
with one inlet and one outlet inserted at the segmentpoint.
With PD 0.40-2 you can set the props to 4x4pix and hide objectname and
arguments.
There's a png (120k)here
I am trying to subsume what I read so far.
A - READABILITY:
readability means that when you look at a patch, you understand its
logic and dataflow. readability is important for programmers, when
looking at their own patches, but also when looking at other peoples
patches. readability is a
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, vade wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
If the people want it, why not give it to them?
Because it's easier to write a condescending justification for the lack of
segmented patchcords than to write the code for segmented patchcords.
Yeah, giving
My apologies. I did infact mis-read this. Sorry Mattieu, I shall put
on my fucking duddle cap on immediately - thats what I get for
splitting my attention.
On Dec 5, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, vade wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Mathieu Bouchard
...I have included a link to Spanish translation on [osc~] english wiki:
http://wiki.puredata.info/en/osc%7E
Saludos!
2007/12/5, raul diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all!
I have edited the Spanish Help wiki page:
- http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Pdpedia:Ayuda
but there is a problem with the
Hello Pd and Max folks,
I am doing a presentation (tomorrow!... so this request is a bit late!) on
differences between Max and Pd as tools for music and media art.
I am interested in hearing:
1. from people who actively use both
2. about less-obvious advantages/disadvantages of one or the
Hi all,
I think -noprefs should stop .pdrc as well, since it's in the spirit
of being able to find out whether a problem is coming from the configuration
or from Pd itself. If it's reasonably easy to do I'll change that.
That said, I think .pdrc should be regarded as deprecated, unless there's
Martin Peach wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Color really makes things stand out, especially in a black and white
patch. So my question is, what would this color fade be communicating? A
fade would stand out even more than a solid color, IMHO. What is that
fade communicating
...and a new object:
-http://wiki.puredata.info/es/loadbang
The new list is:
adc~
line
line~
list osc~
loadbang
2007/12/5, raul diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
...I have included a link to Spanish translation on [osc~] english wiki:
http://wiki.puredata.info/en/osc%7E
Saludos!
2007/12/5,
Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
I looked really, really hard, but what's not okay in the screenshot?
me too :-)
i think the labels for the gui-objects (toggles) are a bit tiny.
Ah, okay. They are so tiny, that I didn't even
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:39:23PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 06:29:00PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Btw.: Even many Max users prefer non-segmented cords, don't they?
I think the key point to take from
0.39.3 is not worth building as 64-bit, unless you don't want to use
arrays or data structures at all. Even 0.40.3 has problems with 64-
bit, AFAIK. Then who knows about all the externals.
Post the error messages here, and we'll see what we can do :D
.hc
On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Myo
Ok, I just committed some things to fix thigns. It should recreate
the makefile.dependencies after that error, it did in my tests.
.hc
On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Martin Peach wrote:
Now the dependencies are not there so it won't build:
makefile.mingw:297: makefile.dependencies: No such
On Dec 5, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Patrice Colet wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
On Dec 4, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
On Dec 4, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Patrice Colet wrote:
Hans Roels a écrit :
I also think this would be a simple but very handy tool,
On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
I looked really, really hard, but what's not okay in the screenshot?
me too :-)
i think the labels for the gui-objects (toggles) are a bit tiny.
Well, by database (in quotes) I meant a system to organize your clips.
Yes, you can do it in PD, it just takes some doing. Personally, I use
different dataflow objects like [coll] and the iem_matrix objects to
organize data into some kind of table or list, along with [makefilename]
or
cool! i really enjoyed the headphone festival - i participated this
year as well in the san francisco session as lna (aka low noise
amplifire)
i performed using only a patch i made in pd and a home-brew 24 element
OSC controller. pd patch is 4 instances of one abstraction - a
sample-slicer/
At 23:41 05.12.2007, Andrew Brouse wrote:
Hello Pd and Max folks,
I am doing a presentation (tomorrow!... so this request is a bit late!) on
differences between Max and Pd as tools for music and media art.
I am interested in hearing:
1. from people who actively use both
2. about less-obvious
In case anyone is interested, there is now a newspaper article with a
video about this piece:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/arts/design/25vide.html
.hc
On Nov 16, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If any of you happens to be in New York City, drop by the lobby of
the
On 04/12/2007, at 6:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
My intention is to
fix Pd to allow direct copy and pasting in object boxes so we can
ditch the Text Editor all together.
hear hear!
this is one of the elements that keeps frustrating people I introduce
to PD. splat-V in an object box
Of course we should then the whole way and allow general splines
as patch cords like in . much sexier.
not even worth 2c
tm
On 05/12/2007, at 2:36 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 06:29:00PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Btw.: Even many Max users prefer non-segmented
Hallo,
patrick hat gesagt: // patrick wrote:
i just compiled vanilla pd 0.41.08 but the fonts are not okay;
screenshot attached.
I looked really, really hard, but what's not okay in the screenshot?
Ciao
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On Dec 5, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Phil Stone wrote:
Martin Peach wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Color really makes things stand out, especially in a black and white
patch. So my question is, what would this color fade be
communicating? A
fade would stand out even more than a solid
hi hans.
this screens is a comercial product, or a special project?
do u have more info about it?
ah
is alex posada in the earstudio moveable type album?
hasta.
palmieri
2007/12/5, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In case anyone is interested, there is now a newspaper article with
On Dec 4, 2007 10:09 AM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a big problem in max is that there is no undo for segmented patchcords.
once segmented, you can only delete them and redraw to make them not
segmented.
That's not true. Ctl-click on a segmented patchcord, unsegments it.
I
It is running PDa 0.4 for sound and custom python to control the text:
http://gige.xdv.org/pda/
it uses these boards:
http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/ts7250-spec-h.html
It uses this distro of linux:
http://www.embeddedarm.com/linux/main.htm
We are currently writing a paper about it for a
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