Re: [PD] delay lines
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, samuel rowe wrote: Mathieu, just out of interest, what are the [phasor~] s used for? [phasor~] can be thought of as a cycling counter. It counts up to 1 and then instead of giving a 1 it drops to 0 and starts again. This can be used to loop through a recorded sound in a table. In the case of a table-based delay line, you have to be continually writing in the table. In the case of a constant delay, this means that each sample will be read only (and exactly) once before it is replaced by something newer, and this means that the frequencies of the two phasors will be the same, but their phases will be different. You can also replace two phasors with just one if you add a [+~] and a [wrap~]. That's especially useful in your case. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] intro to Gridflow and...
Maybe, but I want to try and get me head around it first. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Richie Cyngler wrote: Also why isn't Gridflow part of Pd_extended? Do you want to work on it ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
I have been searching extensively on the internet for how to do this, but I can't find anything. I'm just struggling to visualize how I would do this, especially as one would need to read and write right-left. I had a read about wrap, and how it outputs the difference between the input and nearest integer, like the output of 1.75 would be 0.25. How would this replace two phasors? So one phasor would be used to read, then another one would trail slightly behind writing? Do you know of any examples or tutorials on continually reading and writing into an array, whilst incrementing the index? oh, and after much reading I have discovered that although you can read out of a delay line at any point, you can not drop in at a place and write (ie.you cannot write at the 50msec point in a 200msec delay line) so it looks like tables really are the way forward. Thanks Samuel On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, samuel rowe wrote: Mathieu, just out of interest, what are the [phasor~] s used for? [phasor~] can be thought of as a cycling counter. It counts up to 1 and then instead of giving a 1 it drops to 0 and starts again. This can be used to loop through a recorded sound in a table. In the case of a table-based delay line, you have to be continually writing in the table. In the case of a constant delay, this means that each sample will be read only (and exactly) once before it is replaced by something newer, and this means that the frequencies of the two phasors will be the same, but their phases will be different. You can also replace two phasors with just one if you add a [+~] and a [wrap~]. That's especially useful in your case. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Controlling an Arduino from PD
I've followed the instructions on this post and have successfully gotten Pure Data to control some LEDs on my Arduino http://nf-interactive.blogspot.com/2011/02/pure-data-to-arduino.html Is it possible to control each different pin from within pure data e.g. have a slider for each LED? Cheers Ant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
No idea... power of 2 buffer so masking is easy? add a variable number of wraparound points and adjust it depending on what delread style objects pop up? There are plenty of things it could end up as :) Miller On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:58:51AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: Nothing specific, but the current implemtnation has 4 wraparound points (which assumes that interpolation goes up to 4 points) -- seems unnecessarily arbitrary to me. Then what would you change it to, instead ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
Mathieu, just out of interest, what are the [phasor~] s used for? Would I set up an array for both left and right traveling wave, or one each? and I don't understand how the data inside would be changing over time, if I use the excitation abstraction I have to put an impulse into , for example, the middle of an array, I don't understand how it would move along the array. Sorry, I'm not a brilliant programmer, I have done digital waveguides in matlab, but I really don't like matlab and wanted to use a graphical real-time program, but Pd isn't as straight forward for delay lines. Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:04:15 -0400 From: ma...@artengine.ca To: samueldavidr...@hotmail.co.uk CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] delay lines On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, samuel rowe wrote: I'm not quite sure what you mean, simply using [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] where I've used [delread~] and [delwrite~]? I wasn't aware you could specify a location in an array, I thought you just read it all? Well, just read about [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] and then try to use two [phasor~] slightly out of phase, together with a [*~], to make your own delay line without [delread~] nor [delwrite~]. After that, you will have a lot more possibilities of customisation. Perhaps look at [wrap~] too. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, samuel rowe wrote: I'm not quite sure what you mean, simply using [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] where I've used [delread~] and [delwrite~]? I wasn't aware you could specify a location in an array, I thought you just read it all? Well, just read about [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] and then try to use two [phasor~] slightly out of phase, together with a [*~], to make your own delay line without [delread~] nor [delwrite~]. After that, you will have a lot more possibilities of customisation. Perhaps look at [wrap~] too. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
I'm going to have a go changing the [dline~] abstractions, as inside them the signal is written to a delay line then read at a delay specified by the output position and delay line frequency/length. I'm just confused a bit with how the delay lines are designed, but I must be able to copy the section that connects output position to [dline~] on the right hand delay line over to the input delay line, then use that to read from the delay line. Surely.. I will have a go in a bit cheers From: jbtur...@hotmail.com To: samueldavidr...@hotmail.co.uk; pd-list@iem.at Subject: RE: [PD] delay lines Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:38:37 +0100 Ahh, The strength of arrays is that you can specify a specific location. So, to play audio that's stored in an array you usually have to feed it either changing position data from [line~] or [phasor~] which, as it reads each point at your sample rate (usually 44100 points a second) and feeds this data to your speakers you hear the stored audio, of course changed by the speed of the position line you're putting into it. You could build your own delay unit using tabread~ and tabwrite~ but if you're just starting out, I'd stick to [delread~] and [delwrite~]. Have you managed to do this? From: samueldavidr...@hotmail.co.uk To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:08:23 + Subject: Re: [PD] delay lines I'm not quite sure what you mean, simply using [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] where I've used [delread~] and [delwrite~]? I wasn't aware you could specify a location in an array, I thought you just read it all? Sorry, I'm pretty new to using delay lines and arrays in Pd Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: Nothing specific, but the current implemtnation has 4 wraparound points (which assumes that interpolation goes up to 4 points) -- seems unnecessarily arbitrary to me. Then what would you change it to, instead ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?
Hi list. I've got [wiimote] compiled and almost working with 0.43 vanilla...except that the accelerometer data doesn't seem to be working. I've got (what I think is a) latest generation black wiimote with built-in Motion Plus, and my testing was without the nunchuck or anything attached. I can discover the device and the help patch shows all the button presses and I can toggle the LEDs and vibrator using the help patch, but even after clicking the toggle the accelerator data is just absent. I believe that an extra blank line shows up in the Pd console when I send the accel activation message, but aside from that there's just nothing. I read the blurb in the [wiimote] readme about the problems with older versions of libcwiid, but I've got 0.6.00+svn201-2+b2 from debian sid, which I believe is pretty damn close to the latest... Has anybody experienced this? Any suggestions other than compiling libcwiid myself and trying out the motionplus_sensitivity patch? Thanks! -jason http://noisybox.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:07:24PM -0300, Vilson Vieira wrote: And please, don't forget Chris' WebPd: http://mccormick.cx/projects/WebPd/ If you have FF4, hit this: http://mccormick.cx/projects/WebPd/demos/xmen-sample-looper/ Then drag your mouse on the waveform. Paches welcome! Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
Ahh, The strength of arrays is that you can specify a specific location. So, to play audio that's stored in an array you usually have to feed it either changing position data from [line~] or [phasor~] which, as it reads each point at your sample rate (usually 44100 points a second) and feeds this data to your speakers you hear the stored audio, of course changed by the speed of the position line you're putting into it. You could build your own delay unit using tabread~ and tabwrite~ but if you're just starting out, I'd stick to [delread~] and [delwrite~]. Have you managed to do this? From: samueldavidr...@hotmail.co.uk To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:08:23 + Subject: Re: [PD] delay lines I'm not quite sure what you mean, simply using [tabread~] and [tabwrite~] where I've used [delread~] and [delwrite~]? I wasn't aware you could specify a location in an array, I thought you just read it all? Sorry, I'm pretty new to using delay lines and arrays in Pd Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [playlist] for win32 [was:Re: What version of GEM should I use with pd 0.43-0 vanilla]
- Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Also, it looks like cooled~ isn't building and its now included in the Windows build: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-11/logs/2011-04-11_03.31.01_mingw32_nt-5.1_windowsxp-i386_pd-extended.txt .hc Well, the patches should help to build all unauthorized on mingw, only stk exterals are missing, I might work on this later or sooner... -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Controlling an Arduino from PD
Yes, but connected in PWM, imhe...working like a Dimmer... Best regards José 2011/4/12 Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com I've followed the instructions on this post and have successfully gotten Pure Data to control some LEDs on my Arduino http://nf-interactive.blogspot.com/2011/02/pure-data-to-arduino.html Is it possible to control each different pin from within pure data e.g. have a slider for each LED? Cheers Ant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
Is it possible just to download this version of ff4? Are you planning on putting the contents of your workshop on libpd online? Or to do an online workshop, where people all around can listen to you? João On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:07:24PM -0300, Vilson Vieira wrote: And please, don't forget Chris' WebPd: http://mccormick.cx/projects/WebPd/ If you have FF4, hit this: http://mccormick.cx/projects/WebPd/demos/xmen-sample-looper/ Then drag your mouse on the waveform. Paches welcome! Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
Hi João, On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:35:18PM +0200, João Pais wrote: Is it possible just to download this version of ff4? For sure. Go here: http://www.mozilla.org/ and click on Get Firefox (4 is the recently released stable version). Are you planning on putting the contents of your workshop on libpd online? Or to do an online workshop, where people all around can listen to you? I am not sure what the recording arrangements will be, but if either NYC or LA are recorded I am sure it will be put online. However this is a type of interactive workshop where I hope to help people out on their actual laptops and devices rather than lecturing at them, so it might not be 100% suitable for video. By the way, for anyone interested the New York session still has places available in two Saturdays time. You can sign up here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 If you are in LA, the session is: Friday April 29, 7pm - 11pm CRASHspace (10526 Venice Blvd., Culver City, CA 90232) http://pd-la.info/pd-launch-schedule/ Maybe I can get to Berlin somehow soonish? By the way, libpd is due to a massive effort by Peter Brinkmann and also Peter Kirn, Hans-Christoph Steiner, Martin Roth, and that includes really excellent documentation: https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/PdForAndroid https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
forgot to ask: when do you think you might add delay and readsf~ to the libpd objects? would it make sense for you to open up a pd-ext.js file, where non-vanilla objects are coded? João Hi João, On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:35:18PM +0200, João Pais wrote: Is it possible just to download this version of ff4? For sure. Go here: http://www.mozilla.org/ and click on Get Firefox (4 is the recently released stable version). Are you planning on putting the contents of your workshop on libpd online? Or to do an online workshop, where people all around can listen to you? I am not sure what the recording arrangements will be, but if either NYC or LA are recorded I am sure it will be put online. However this is a type of interactive workshop where I hope to help people out on their actual laptops and devices rather than lecturing at them, so it might not be 100% suitable for video. By the way, for anyone interested the New York session still has places available in two Saturdays time. You can sign up here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 If you are in LA, the session is: Friday April 29, 7pm - 11pm CRASHspace (10526 Venice Blvd., Culver City, CA 90232) http://pd-la.info/pd-launch-schedule/ Maybe I can get to Berlin somehow soonish? By the way, libpd is due to a massive effort by Peter Brinkmann and also Peter Kirn, Hans-Christoph Steiner, Martin Roth, and that includes really excellent documentation: https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/PdForAndroid https://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
Are you planning on putting the contents of your workshop on libpd online? Or to do an online workshop, where people all around can listen to you? I am not sure what the recording arrangements will be, but if either NYC or LA are recorded I am sure it will be put online. However this is a type of interactive workshop where I hope to help people out on their actual laptops and devices rather than lecturing at them, so it might not be 100% suitable for video. yes, but it would be nice for us to be informed. I'm itching to get my http://code.google.com/p/clicktracker/ as an online tool. Maybe I can get to Berlin somehow soonish? that's up to you, not to me :) I should be able to get a place to stay. I can give some contacts of places to teach, but of course Berlin is famous for being cheap to live, and treating it's residents and guests even cheaper than that. João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delay lines
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, samuel rowe wrote: I had a read about wrap, and how it outputs the difference between the input and nearest integer, like the output of 1.75 would be 0.25. No, 1.75 becomes 0.75, while -1.75 becomes 0.25. The output of [wrap~] is the difference between input and the integer below or equal (the nearest of those that are not above). How would this replace two phasors? the phasor used for writing the delay is to be reused by every reader to synchronise with the position that is currently considered to be the present. So one phasor would be used to read, then another one would trail slightly behind writing? Yes, or even a lot. If you're trying to use the whole table for that job, you will put the read-phase a bit _ahead_ of the write-phase, because if e.g. the read-phase is 97 % behind, it is also 3 % ahead, because it's a loop. oh, and after much reading I have discovered that although you can read out of a delay line at any point, you can not drop in at a place and write (ie.you cannot write at the 50msec point in a 200msec delay line) so it looks like tables really are the way forward. However, controlling the write-head is harder than controlling the read-head. There's a reason for which delwrite~/delread~ is done the way it is now. If you just move the write-head the way you move the read-head, it will skip samples during writing, which will cause your data to blend in weird ways with whatever was the older data. It's complicated to stretch the data upon writing, especially in Pd, in which the normal way to stretch a live signal is to put it in a short delay line and read it with [vd~]. You can't write at variable rate with [delwrite~]. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd - DSP in a web app
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 04:22:06PM +0200, João Pais wrote: forgot to ask: when do you think you might add delay and readsf~ to the libpd objects? As soon as someone sends me the patch I will add it. :) Actually, [delay] is very high on my TODO list. Unfortunately my development on WebPd is divided between my clients (day job) and other spare time projects so it doesn't always get the love it needs. So far it has kept plodding along due to some really awesome and huge patches from Brandon and Spencer with an occasionally architecture tweak from me. would it make sense for you to open up a pd-ext.js file, where non-vanilla objects are coded? Yes, perfect sense. Or someone could make their own pd-ext.js or pd-zexy.js or pd-gridflow.js and self-publish them. There are already some non-vanilla objects in pd.js though which I should move into pd-ext.js and that is a good idea, thanks. Goodnight, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.43 Vanilla under Ubuntu
got the same error on a fresh install pd-vanilla on ubuntu 10.10- configure install no problemo but starting pd hangs up: was... 1 Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory watchdog: signaling pd... i've tk8.5 and tcl8.5 installed any hints welcome thanks ø On 03/22/2011 12:02 PM, saint wrote: Configure and make seem to go fine but when I try to launch... Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory ...perhaps I'm missing something? I'm no Linux expert. Thanks, John. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised http://hasa-labs.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Controlling an Arduino from PD
Definitely. The easiest way is probably to use Pduino: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Pduino-0.5beta8.zip On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: I've followed the instructions on this post and have successfully gotten Pure Data to control some LEDs on my Arduino http://nf-interactive.blogspot.com/2011/02/pure-data-to-arduino.html Is it possible to control each different pin from within pure data e.g. have a slider for each LED? Cheers Ant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Controlling an Arduino from PD
Yes, Pduino...great work!, Ant: if you have problems i can send the patch for your pourpose... Best José 2011/4/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Definitely. The easiest way is probably to use Pduino: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Pduino-0.5beta8.zip On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: I've followed the instructions on this post and have successfully gotten Pure Data to control some LEDs on my Arduino http://nf-interactive.blogspot.com/2011/02/pure-data-to-arduino.html Is it possible to control each different pin from within pure data e.g. have a slider for each LED? Cheers Ant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 0.43 Vanilla under Ubuntu
The only way I suceeded was executing the binary straight from the source: cd to your src directory: $ cd /usr/src/pd-0.43/bin/ $ ./pd I still have some doubts on setting 0.43 to find the right tcl version, once 2 gui plugins (gtk open/save and kiosk) don't find those: UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package Tcl: have 8.4, need 8.5 while executing package require Tcl 8.5 Oddly, other gui-plugins that also require tcl 8.5, loaded smoothly ( autocompletion-plugin, menubar-plugin and buttonbar-plugin) cheers 2011/4/13 olsen sesselastron...@googlemail.com got the same error on a fresh install pd-vanilla on ubuntu 10.10- configure install no problemo but starting pd hangs up: was... 1 Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory watchdog: signaling pd... i've tk8.5 and tcl8.5 installed any hints welcome thanks ø On 03/22/2011 12:02 PM, saint wrote: Configure and make seem to go fine but when I try to launch... Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory ...perhaps I'm missing something? I'm no Linux expert. Thanks, John. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised http://hasa-labs.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (16) 99645077 M2D multi_meios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?
Hi Jason A few people from this list worked on getting [wiimote] into Debian. Under unstable / sid it is already available as the package 'pd-wiimote'. I'd be glad, if you could try this one and report if it is working with your device. Note: It depends on the meta-package 'pd' thus it will probably install 'puredata', although you have a Pd version already installed in /usr/local/. However, this shouldn't hurt at all. I just want to let you know, and also to take care to set proper paths for your locally installed Pd, since the 'pd-wiimote' will install into /usr/lib/pd/extra. Roman On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 00:02 -0700, Jason Plumb wrote: Hi list. I've got [wiimote] compiled and almost working with 0.43 vanilla...except that the accelerometer data doesn't seem to be working. I've got (what I think is a) latest generation black wiimote with built-in Motion Plus, and my testing was without the nunchuck or anything attached. I can discover the device and the help patch shows all the button presses and I can toggle the LEDs and vibrator using the help patch, but even after clicking the toggle the accelerator data is just absent. I believe that an extra blank line shows up in the Pd console when I send the accel activation message, but aside from that there's just nothing. I read the blurb in the [wiimote] readme about the problems with older versions of libcwiid, but I've got 0.6.00+svn201-2+b2 from debian sid, which I believe is pretty damn close to the latest... Has anybody experienced this? Any suggestions other than compiling libcwiid myself and trying out the motionplus_sensitivity patch? Thanks! -jason http://noisybox.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?
Somewhat OT perhaps, but can you also try disis_wiimote which supports motion plus (compiled against latest SVN cwiid lib)? I just released new version earlier today that also fixes a few bugs and makes it even more xrun-proof. You can find it on the L2Ork website at http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main (then click Join the L2Orkmania-Software). Best wishes, Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question
Hi all, Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in the console which I didn't previously: get_baud_ratebits: 115200 set_baudrate baudbits: 4098 Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall patch is expecting a much faster rate. Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2011 05:56 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Somewhat OT perhaps, but can you also try disis_wiimote which supports motion plus (compiled against latest SVN cwiid lib)? I just released new version earlier today that also fixes a few bugs and makes it even more xrun-proof. just to make sure: [wiimote] (which is packaged into debian/ubuntu), definitely does support the motionplus extension. mgsdt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2l1aYACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSXkQCfed75x7pwhgftL4vcmR1gPZtp t+wAn3lWDsTJ7v8qifheIad1beCEAM03 =9qNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question
Hi all, Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in the console which I didn't previously: get_baud_ratebits: 115200 set_baudrate baudbits: 4098 Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall patch is expecting a much faster rate. I think the baud rate will be correct, the baudbits message is wrong. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question
Hi, maybe you must change in the Arduino IDE the baud to comunicate...in Arduino terminal... in the tabs to upload, run,stop, etc, find the last (on right) which corresponds to terminal, open it and setup the baud of Arduino, do not quite understand what you say, but might work. Check the pic http://emulare.sourceforge.net/manual/ArduinoTerminal.jpg In Linux is the same Best regards José 2011/4/13 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hi all, Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in the console which I didn't previously: get_baud_ratebits: 115200 set_baudrate baudbits: 4098 Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall patch is expecting a much faster rate. Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question
Yes, and then upload your serial sketch or whatever. José 2011/4/13 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi, maybe you must change in the Arduino IDE the baud to comunicate...in Arduino terminal... in the tabs to upload, run,stop, etc, find the last (on right) which corresponds to terminal, open it and setup the baud of Arduino, do not quite understand what you say, but might work. Check the pic http://emulare.sourceforge.net/manual/ArduinoTerminal.jpg In Linux is the same Best regards José 2011/4/13 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hi all, Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in the console which I didn't previously: get_baud_ratebits: 115200 set_baudrate baudbits: 4098 Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall patch is expecting a much faster rate. Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question
Hi all, Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in the console which I didn't previously: get_baud_ratebits: 115200 set_baudrate baudbits: 4098 Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall patch is expecting a much faster rate. I think the baud rate will be correct, the baudbits message is wrong. Actually it's not wrong, it's just reporting the bits for the baud rate register, so it's not useful except for debugging. I will remove it. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [playlist] for win32 [was:Re: What version of GEM should I use with pd 0.43-0 vanilla]
- Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Also, it looks like cooled~ isn't building and its now included in the Windows build: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-11/logs/2011-04-11_03.31.01_mingw32_nt-5.1_windowsxp-i386_pd-extended.txt cooled~ builds on my machine, I can't get whats happening with the autobuild because I could download only 700k of this log file -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [playlist] for win32 [was:Re: What version of GEM should I use with pd 0.43-0 vanilla]
It may build but it will crash pd if you try to load it On 04/13/2011 01:18 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Patrice Coletcolet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : - Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at a écrit : Also, it looks like cooled~ isn't building and its now included in the Windows build: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-11/logs/2011-04-11_03.31.01_mingw32_nt-5.1_windowsxp-i386_pd-extended.txt cooled~ builds on my machine, I can't get whats happening with the autobuild because I could download only 700k of this log file ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [playlist] for win32 [was:Re: What version of GEM should I use with pd 0.43-0 vanilla]
- DW mail p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu a écrit : It may build but it will crash pd if you try to load it On 04/13/2011 01:18 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Patrice Coletcolet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : - Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at a écrit : Also, it looks like cooled~ isn't building and its now included in the Windows build: Ooopse I forgot to submit the patch for cooled~, since it was included in the pdx version I'm using, I thought that it was ok, but it's not, is it crashing on windows only or another platform? http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-11/logs/2011-04-11_03.31.01_mingw32_nt-5.1_windowsxp-i386_pd-extended.txt cooled~ builds on my machine, I can't get whats happening with the autobuild because I could download only 700k of this log file ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd firewire in the Natty Narwhal
Hi list I've upgraded my Ubuntu to Natty Narwhal beta (kernel 2.6.38-8 x86_64). I'm trying to run pd 0.42-6 (from the ubuntu universe repo) with jackdmp 1.9.7 and libffado 2.999.0, on my Edirol FA-101. This was running nice on Ubuntu 10.10. I launch jackd with : jackd -P70 -p128 -dfirewire -r44100 -p256 -n3 As soon as i click Apply to select the jack backend in pd, its telling me : jack_client_new: deprecated JackSocketClientChannel read fail Cannot open pure_data_0 client and Jackd then answers : JackFFADODriver::ffado_driver_wait - unhandled xrun firewire ERR: wait status 0! (= -1) JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping... JackProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 500 err = Connection timed out If i only launch jack, after some time i get : JackFFADODriver::ffado_driver_wait - unhandled xrun firewire ERR: wait status 0! (= -1) JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping... Do anyone here got the same issue ? I have found that the right method to open a jack port is now jack_client_open(). It seems that pd 0.42-6 is not using this method. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd firewire in the Natty Narwhal
I bet this is about the new firewire stack. Further reading in here https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration I had problems with my soundcard too (focusrite saffire pro40) and I'm yet stuck with a 2.6.35 kernel, I hope it helps cheers 2011/4/13 batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr Hi list I've upgraded my Ubuntu to Natty Narwhal beta (kernel 2.6.38-8 x86_64). I'm trying to run pd 0.42-6 (from the ubuntu universe repo) with jackdmp 1.9.7 and libffado 2.999.0, on my Edirol FA-101. This was running nice on Ubuntu 10.10. I launch jackd with : jackd -P70 -p128 -dfirewire -r44100 -p256 -n3 As soon as i click Apply to select the jack backend in pd, its telling me : jack_client_new: deprecated JackSocketClientChannel read fail Cannot open pure_data_0 client and Jackd then answers : JackFFADODriver::ffado_driver_wait - unhandled xrun firewire ERR: wait status 0! (= -1) JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping... JackProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 500 err = Connection timed out If i only launch jack, after some time i get : JackFFADODriver::ffado_driver_wait - unhandled xrun firewire ERR: wait status 0! (= -1) JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping... Do anyone here got the same issue ? I have found that the right method to open a jack port is now jack_client_open(). It seems that pd 0.42-6 is not using this method. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (16) 99645077 M2D multi_meios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Husk, Hi Martin First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post than Simon's, just so that you know. ok The image in his email is incorporated into the body, it's a link to a URL: http://email.rwcmd.ac.uk/disclaimer/signature_build.jpg. I believe you jumped to conclusions, and there is no reason why an embedded image link should be considered bad practice. That's totally right I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally and I can vouch for him. The Mussolini video is not something that he posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need to jump to conclusions. I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that. See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this stange days in Italy. BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right? My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list. I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and collective discussions (and conflicts too) cheers husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons? PdConvention Graz had no submission process for papers. PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers. PdConvention São Paulo had... I don't remember (or perhaps I never knew). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments
I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to access files for later recall. Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Husk, Hi Martin First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post than Simon's, just so that you know. ok The image in his email is incorporated into the body, it's a link to a URL: http://email.rwcmd.ac.uk/disclaimer/signature_build.jpg. I believe you jumped to conclusions, and there is no reason why an embedded image link should be considered bad practice. That's totally right I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally and I can vouch for him. The Mussolini video is not something that he posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need to jump to conclusions. I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that. See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this stange days in Italy. BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right? My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list. I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and collective discussions (and conflicts too) cheers husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. Then according to you data, Weimar has about 40. PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers. And Montréal had about the same. Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference. Best regards, Pedro On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons? PdConvention Graz had no submission process for papers. PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers. PdConvention São Paulo had... I don't remember (or perhaps I never knew). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Controlling an Arduino from PD
Yes, the interface takes a little bit of getting used but as long as you have the right com port set (the pd window will give you feedback on this) you just use the radio button grid to set the different pins to whatever you want them to be. That is you have to switch on for example analog inout for the analog pins, or digital in (or out), or pwm for digital pins - individually. I love Pduino, I can make Arduino stuff without any sketches! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 16:04 +0100, Antonio Roberts wrote: Definitely. The easiest way is probably to use Pduino: I thought you could only use Pduino to recieve data from an Arduino, not to send to. Maybe I'm mistaken? Pduino lets your Pd talk with your Arduino in both ways. Also it enables you to configure the digitalPins as Inputs or Outputs. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference. Well, at the same time, you'd think that there would be more submissions, now that the pd-community has grown. But it's not like that. Proximity still makes a big difference, as we have seen with canadian submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, and with brazilian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention (as well as lack of canadian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention), but with the number of european submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, you'd think that the 4th one would have a lot more than 40 articles (I don't know about other categories). Does anyone want to lookup stats about Pd Conventions as might have been posted on pd-list before, and then put those stats on puredata.info ? (or links to the appropriate posts) Currently the three conventions appear as links in : http://puredata.info/community/projects/ ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
Hum... The only thing that really matters is to know if Pd is going to win at the end. :-p And I can tell it to you now. We're gonna win ! Cool, isn't it ? :-D 1010ove 0101ivier 2011/4/14 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference. Well, at the same time, you'd think that there would be more submissions, now that the pd-community has grown. But it's not like that. Proximity still makes a big difference, as we have seen with canadian submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, and with brazilian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention (as well as lack of canadian submissions in the 3rd PdConvention), but with the number of european submissions in the 2nd PdConvention, you'd think that the 4th one would have a lot more than 40 articles (I don't know about other categories). Does anyone want to lookup stats about Pd Conventions as might have been posted on pd-list before, and then put those stats on puredata.info ? (or links to the appropriate posts) Currently the three conventions appear as links in : http://puredata.info/community/projects/ ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Envie de tisser ? http://yamatierea.org/papatchs/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
