Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Hans

On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
 finalizing it.  Download here:

Thanks a lot for your efforts. I noticed quite a huge amount of work
went into that version and many goals have been achieved. Thanks to
anyone involved.

Unfortunately, I've run into a couple of problems when running some of
my patches in the release candidate version
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130107. 



1
When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
(I'll investigate that later). 

Steps to reproduce: 
* Start pd-extended
* Load netpd/chat.pd
* click on 'unpatch' in chat.pd to launch unpatch
* load a netpd-patch from netpd/patches (click on 'netload patch')

This is the backtrace from Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130107 on Ubuntu 12.04.1
(i386):
--- Backtrace ---
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0805933a in subcanvas_new (s=0x86ae438) at g_canvas.c:942
942 g_canvas.c: No such file or directory.
(gdb) backtrace
#0  0x0805933a in subcanvas_new (s=0x86ae438) at g_canvas.c:942
#1  0x0807e4ba in pd_typedmess (x=0x80e033c, s=0x80e9c58, argc=optimized out, 
argv=0xbfffd144) at m_class.c:795
#2  0x0808455e in binbuf_eval (x=0x8585fb0, target=0x80e033c, argc=1, 
argv=0x869dba0) at m_binbuf.c:767
#3  0x0805e545 in canvas_objtext (gl=0x86b3740, xpix=10, ypix=20, selected=0, 
b=0x8585fb0) at g_text.c:96
#4  0x0805f9f5 in canvas_obj (gl=0x86b3740, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at g_text.c:193
#5  0x0807e232 in pd_typedmess (x=0x86b3740, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:719
#6  0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae0d8, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#7  0x0807f7af in outlet_anything (x=0x86ae858, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at m_obj.c:470
#8  0x080a1b4e in trigger_anything (x=0x86ae800, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at x_connective.c:1013
#9  0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae800, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#10 0x0807f7af in outlet_anything (x=0x86ae750, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at m_obj.c:470
#11 0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae73c, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#12 0x0808455e in binbuf_eval (x=0x86ae768, target=0x86ae73c, argc=3, 
argv=0xbfffd5e0) at m_binbuf.c:767
#13 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae448, s=0x80d9be0, argc=3, 
argv=0xbfffd5e0)
at m_obj.c:459
#14 0x009501cc in list_append_list (x=0x86ae408, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffd710) at list.c:240
#15 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae3a8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffd710)
at m_obj.c:459
#16 0x009501cc in list_append_list (x=0x86ae360, s=0x0, argc=1, argv=0xbfffd800)
at list.c:240
#17 0x0807d382 in pd_defaultfloat (x=0x86ae360, f=20) at m_class.c:73
#18 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae2f8, f=20) at m_obj.c:425
#19 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae278, s=0x80d9be0, argc=1, 
argv=0xbfffd8b8)
at m_obj.c:459
#20 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86ae238, s=0x0, argc=1, argv=0xbfffd8b8)
at x_connective.c:1000
#21 0x080a2697 in trigger_float (x=0x86ae238, f=1) at x_connective.c:1034
#22 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae1d0, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#23 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae148, f=0) at m_obj.c:425
#24 0x080a12d9 in pdfloat_bang (x=0x86ae120) at x_connective.c:80
#25 0x0807f4b3 in outlet_bang (x=0x86ae688) at m_obj.c:399
#26 0x080a1420 in until_float (x=0x86ae640, f=optimized out)
at x_connective.c:1190
#27 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae608, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#28 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae4c8, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#29 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae530, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#30 0x08084597 in binbuf_eval (x=0x86ae490, target=0x86ae51c, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4) at m_binbuf.c:770
#31 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae068, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#32 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86ae010, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at x_connective.c:1000
#33 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86b1400, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#34 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86a92a8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#35 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86a9248, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at x_connective.c:1000
#36 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86a91b8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#37 0x08084228 in binbuf_eval (x=0x86a9128, 

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant


On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:

Hi Hans

On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
finalizing it.  Download here:

(...)




2))
On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
I stil have to investigate the last working version.

[1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip


Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.

pob

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[PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Dario Pedrioli
Hi all,

I'm trying to do a simple planar stereo vision installation (two camera
that see a plane from a side) trying to reconstruct object position on the
plane.

I need to undistort my camera input (wide angle lens) for later blob
detection.

Has someone worked on undistort camera input or better on camera
calibration in GEM?

ciao
Dario
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:27 +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
 On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:
  Hi Hans
 
  On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
  make
  sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
  translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
  before
  finalizing it.  Download here:
  (...)
 
 
 
 
  2))
  On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
  netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
  didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
  yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
  I stil have to investigate the last working version.
 
  [1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip
 
 Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.

Oh, thanks for testing. Glad to hear that. Something is weird with my
Windows XP regarding Pd, I suppose. Let's skip this report, then. One
issue less.

Roman





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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2013-01-08 at 13:23 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:27 +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
  On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:
   Hi Hans
  
   On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
   make
   sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
   translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
   before
   finalizing it.  Download here:
   (...)
  
  
  
  
   2))
   On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
   netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
   didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
   yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
   I stil have to investigate the last working version.
  
   [1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip
  
  Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.
 
 Oh, thanks for testing. Glad to hear that. Something is weird with my
 Windows XP regarding Pd, I suppose. Let's skip this report, then. One
 issue less.

BTW: Pierre-Olivier helped me testing on Windows 7 (64bit) with the
release candidate and problem 1) is exactly the same as on Ubuntu
12.04.1

Roman


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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Jack
Le 08/01/2013 12:50, Dario Pedrioli a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I'm trying to do a simple planar stereo vision installation (two
 camera that see a plane from a side) trying to reconstruct object
 position on the plane.

 I need to undistort my camera input (wide angle lens) for later blob
 detection.

 Has someone worked on undistort camera input or better on camera
 calibration in GEM?

 ciao
 Dario


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Hello,

I think you could find something interesting in the Gem examples :
GLSL/13.panoramique.pd
This patch use GLSL shaders to revise the distorsion on several pictures.
Hoping it helps.
++

Jack


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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Cyrille Henry

for better lens calibration, see pix_opencv object (pix_opencv_calibration).
cheers
c

Le 08/01/2013 13:31, Jack a écrit :

Le 08/01/2013 12:50, Dario Pedrioli a écrit :

Hi all,

I'm trying to do a simple planar stereo vision installation (two camera that 
see a plane from a side) trying to reconstruct object position on the plane.

I need to undistort my camera input (wide angle lens) for later blob detection.

Has someone worked on undistort camera input or better on camera calibration in 
GEM?

ciao
Dario


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Hello,

I think you could find something interesting in the Gem examples : 
GLSL/13.panoramique.pd
This patch use GLSL shaders to revise the distorsion on several pictures.
Hoping it helps.
++

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 94, Issue 35

2013-01-08 Thread oscar santis
2013/1/8 pd-list-requ...@iem.at

 Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1:
   last chance to report your bugs


Pd-extended 0.43.4 rc 07/01/2013 crashes when I load a patch with
unauthorized's grid. This thing don't happens in previous beta version
running on Ubuntustudio 12.04
Cheers



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 1
 When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
 and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
 version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
 though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
 (I'll investigate that later). 

Ok, I got this one hunted down. The offending commit is this:

snip
commit b95886ccd619d6141a62608f11fda8999ea0a686
Author: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
Date:   Fri Dec 14 21:29:24 2012 -0500

place new subpatch windows near where the [pd] object was created

Use the last click location in the editor and the screen x/y position of
the owner window to set where the new canvas toplevel window is placed.

/snip

The attached patch consisting of only three objects exhibits the
problem. When creating a subpatch inside a hidden subpatch, Pd-extended
crashes. It does not so, when the outer subpatch is visible. 

Before this commit, creating subpatches in hidden subpatches was
perfectly legal thing to do.

Roman

#N canvas 63 172 596 107 10;
#X msg 11 13 obj 10 10 pd inner;
#X obj 11 39 s pd-outer;
#N canvas 927 357 272 428 outer 0;
#X restore 10 64 pd outer;
#X text 132 12 - click message to crash Pd-0.43.4-extended  2012-12-14
;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 3)
 When loading a patch in the Pd-extended release candidate, the memory
 footprint is approximately three times higher than loading the same
 patch with Pd 0.43.3 vanilla. For a patch that eats 200 MB of memory in
 Pd-vanilla, this means 600 MB memory usage in the current Pd-extended.
 
 The patch I used to measure the memory footprint does not use a lot of
 tables but contains many instances of abstractions and nested
 abstractions.  
 
 My impression is that there wasn't such a huge difference with earlier
 builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though I don't have any data to confirm
 this. I'll check that when I found a version that does not exhibit the
 problems 1) and 2) and see whether the situation is different there. 
 
 The difference in memory footprints seems consistent across operating
 systems, at least between Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Windows XP (both i386).  

It appears the difference is not specific to recent version of
Pd-extended. I tried a version from May 2012 and it also uses 3 times
more memory for the same patch than Pd-vanilla. 

It seems this isn't a release critical issue for most people. However, I
still wonder where this difference does come from.

Roman



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Ángel Faraldo
I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...

I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 

but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work for 
me when I have caps locked on my keyboard.

This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and vanilla.

(here: mac osx 10.6.8)

happy new year to all!

angelfaraldo

On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
 finalizing it.  Download here:
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This release
 includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
 highlights:
 
 * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help-Search)
 * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
 * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
 * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
 * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
 * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
 * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
 And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Download it here:
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
 Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
 run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
 There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
 * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3595309group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3599058group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3525646group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * specific kinds of GUI overload
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2013-01-08 at 15:13 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
  3)
  When loading a patch in the Pd-extended release candidate, the memory
  footprint is approximately three times higher than loading the same
  patch with Pd 0.43.3 vanilla. For a patch that eats 200 MB of memory in
  Pd-vanilla, this means 600 MB memory usage in the current Pd-extended.
  
  The patch I used to measure the memory footprint does not use a lot of
  tables but contains many instances of abstractions and nested
  abstractions.  
  
  My impression is that there wasn't such a huge difference with earlier
  builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though I don't have any data to confirm
  this. I'll check that when I found a version that does not exhibit the
  problems 1) and 2) and see whether the situation is different there. 
  
  The difference in memory footprints seems consistent across operating
  systems, at least between Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Windows XP (both i386).  
 
 It appears the difference is not specific to recent version of
 Pd-extended. I tried a version from May 2012 and it also uses 3 times
 more memory for the same patch than Pd-vanilla. 
 
 It seems this isn't a release critical issue for most people. However, I
 still wonder where this difference does come from.

The 3-fold difference seems specific to the patch I tested with [1]. I
made a test patch containing many abstractions consisting of a few
vanilla objects and there isn't any noticeable difference.

[1] sonoplanes.pd from https://github.com/reduzent/sonoplanes

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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Dario Pedrioli
Thanks a lot Jack and Cyrille

Wow! I didn't know of the existence of pix_opencv_calibration! I will have
a try as soon as possible!
so http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv is not
the main and updated page for pix_opencv stuff?
what's the main repository?

ciao
dario
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:06 AM, oscar santis wrote:

 
 
 2013/1/8 pd-list-requ...@iem.at
 Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1:
   last chance to report your bugs
 
 Pd-extended 0.43.4 rc 07/01/2013 crashes when I load a patch with 
 unauthorized's grid. This thing don't happens in previous beta version 
 running on Ubuntustudio 12.04
 Cheers


Why do you think [grid] is causing the crash?
What OS are you running? 
32-bit or 64-bit?

Can you include the patch?

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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

up to date sources are on pd externals svn, on sourceforge.
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/

cheers
c

Le 08/01/2013 15:46, Dario Pedrioli a écrit :

Thanks a lot Jack and Cyrille

Wow! I didn't know of the existence of pix_opencv_calibration! I will have a 
try as soon as possible!
so http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv is not the 
main and updated page for pix_opencv stuff?
what's the main repository?

ciao
dario


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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Dario Pedrioli
Thanks a lot.

ciao
dario


2013/1/8 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net

 hello,

 up to date sources are on pd externals svn, on sourceforge.
 http://pure-data.svn.**sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-**data/trunk/externals/http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/

 cheers
 c

 Le 08/01/2013 15:46, Dario Pedrioli a écrit :

 Thanks a lot Jack and Cyrille

 Wow! I didn't know of the existence of pix_opencv_calibration! I will
 have a try as soon as possible!
 so 
 http://www.hangar.org/wikis/**lab/doku.php?id=start:**puredata_opencvhttp://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencvis
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

 On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 1
 When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
 and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
 version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
 though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
 (I'll investigate that later). 
 
 Ok, I got this one hunted down. The offending commit is this:
 
 snip
 commit b95886ccd619d6141a62608f11fda8999ea0a686
 Author: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org
 Date:   Fri Dec 14 21:29:24 2012 -0500
 
place new subpatch windows near where the [pd] object was created
 
Use the last click location in the editor and the screen x/y position of
the owner window to set where the new canvas toplevel window is placed.
 
 /snip
 
 The attached patch consisting of only three objects exhibits the
 problem. When creating a subpatch inside a hidden subpatch, Pd-extended
 crashes. It does not so, when the outer subpatch is visible. 
 
 Before this commit, creating subpatches in hidden subpatches was
 perfectly legal thing to do.
 
 Roman
 
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IOhannes and Roman worked this thru with me, and its fixed.  Here's the 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl key for 
reasons like this.  What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:

 I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...
 
 I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 
 
 but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work for 
 me when I have caps locked on my keyboard.
 
 This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and vanilla.
 
 (here: mac osx 10.6.8)
 
 happy new year to all!
 
 angelfaraldo
 
 On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
 finalizing it.  Download here:
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
 release
 includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
 highlights:
 
 * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help-Search)
 * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
 * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
 * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
 * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
 * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
 * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
 And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Download it here:
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
 Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
 run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
 There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
 * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3595309group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3599058group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3525646group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * specific kinds of GUI overload
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Can you use ALSA or OSS?  Do the names of your Audio or Jack devices have 
accented characters é, á, etc. or ñ?

.hc

On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:

 Directly puredata.info  deb package
 
 
 2013/1/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
 Hey Esteban,
 
 Did you download the package directly from puredata.info or did you get it 
 from the eighthave/pd-extended PPA?
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 
 I tried the x64 version on 12.04.1 with Jack and I don't have sucess..
 
 I can't out pressing ok of audio settings.. And pd won't open any patch with 
 jack...
 
 
 2013/1/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
 Do you mean the auto-completion plugin?  That's not included in Pd-extended 
 at
 the moment.  Did it work with previous releases?
 
 .hc
 
 On 01/07/2013 01:03 PM, Budi Prakosa wrote:
  auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
  h...@at.or.atwrote:
 
 
  I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
  make
  sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
  translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
  before
  finalizing it.  Download here:
 
  http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
  Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
  release
  includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
  highlights:
 
  * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help-Search)
  * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
  (tclpd)
  * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
  * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
  * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
  * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
  * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
  And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
  Download it here:
  http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
  Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
  https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
  run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
  There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
  * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3595309group_id=55736atid=478070
 
  * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3599058group_id=55736atid=478070
 
  * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3525646group_id=55736atid=478070
 
  * specific kinds of GUI overload
  http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ah yes, I see.  I'll try to see what's the cause.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:

 
 Hi Hans, 
 
 from your reply I understand this behavior is not buggy, it only seemed 
 unpractical and surprising, first because all other other apps in mac (open 
 source apps included) ignore capitalization for shortcuts, and second, 
 because this was not the case before pd 0.43.
 
 á
 
 On 08/01/2013, at 17:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl key for 
 reasons like this.  
 What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:
 
 I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...
 
 I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 
 
 but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work 
 for me when I have caps locked on my keyboard.
 
 This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and 
 vanilla.
 
 (here: mac osx 10.6.8)
 
 happy new year to all!
 
 angelfaraldo
 
 On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
 make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
 before
 finalizing it.  Download here:
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
 release
 includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
 highlights:
 
 * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help-Search)
 * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
 (tclpd)
 * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
 * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
 * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
 * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
 * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
 And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Download it here:
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
 Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
 run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
 There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
 * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3595309group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3599058group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3525646group_id=55736atid=478070
 
 * specific kinds of GUI overload
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
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Re: [PD] GEM - camera lens correction or camera calibration

2013-01-08 Thread Antoine Villeret
hi,

don't hesitate to ask here if you need help to use pix_opencv_calibration i
don't know anybody using it except cyille and me and perhaps the help file
is not clear enought
it would be a good test :-)

cheers

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 Thanks a lot.

 ciao
 dario


 2013/1/8 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net

 hello,

 up to date sources are on pd externals svn, on sourceforge.
 http://pure-data.svn.**sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-**
 data/trunk/externals/http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/

 cheers
 c

 Le 08/01/2013 15:46, Dario Pedrioli a écrit :

 Thanks a lot Jack and Cyrille

 Wow! I didn't know of the existence of pix_opencv_calibration! I will
 have a try as soon as possible!
 so 
 http://www.hangar.org/wikis/**lab/doku.php?id=start:**puredata_opencvhttp://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencvis
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Seiichiro MATSUMURA
Hi Hans,

I found the solution to make IAC Driver visible in MIDI setting
window of Mac OSX.
In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple IAC Driver is
written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of IAC Driver
to English one.
I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
with no freeze.
Thanks for your suggestion.

Best,

Sei


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 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

 Hi,

 Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do 
 any
 of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
 characters in them?

 Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
 Apple's default IAC driver should be appeared but it is indicated as
 blank. (see attached file.)
 driver is translated in Japanese.
 Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
 I will try it under English mode later.

 I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in 
 English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this 
 command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the 
 result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into 
 a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media-Audio Settings, 
 and Media-MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do 
 Audio and MIDI separately.

 /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
 -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs

 The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
 the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, 
 this is what I get when I do that:


 $ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
 -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
 StartNotification name = default
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set ::tmp_path {}
 set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
 set ::tmp_path {}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path 
 {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
 set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
 set ::startup_flags {}
 set ::startup_libraries {}
 pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
 {Monaco} normal
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set pd_whichapi 4
 pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
 8 5 11
 9 6 12
 10 6 13
 12 7 16
 14 8 17
 16 10 19
 18 11 22
 24 14 29
 30 18 37
 36 22 44
 ;

 pd autopatch 0;

 pd autopatch 0;

 pd audio-properties;
 global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
 global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
 pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100 20 1 
 0 0 64




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[PD] Urgent! Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
I've been using [link]x[mass] sending [setK 9, setD 0, setD2 500( to [link]
and [setM 1( to [mass] in a patch and it worked fine when sending a
ramp from 0 to 1 with [line]. Just now though it looks like these two
objects don't work properly any more as the values produced by [mass] go to
something like 1790, which is totally weird. The patch was working half an
hour ago (a bit too big to post) and now it's behaving crazy.
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[PD] Counter that keeps time with an ogg file?

2013-01-08 Thread Filippo Peccoz
Dear List,

I'm trying to sync a counter that keeps track of bars and beats of an ogg file 
that is started simultaneously. Unfortunately, there's a big evident drift 
after just 5-10 seconds.

I'm using oggread~ and simple metro constructs for this. Am I missing 
something? Is there a reliable way to display/deduce bars and beats from a 
linear playing audio file (compressed audio file, that is!)

Thanks to all, as always,

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That's good to know, at least there is a workaround.  That also provides me 
with a way to reproduce it on my machine :)  I didn't know you could rename IAC 
Driver, so I did that, and I have the same issue.  Now it should be possible to 
fix.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

 Hi Hans,
 
 I found the solution to make IAC Driver visible in MIDI setting
 window of Mac OSX.
 In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple IAC Driver is
 written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
 application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of IAC Driver
 to English one.
 I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
 with no freeze.
 Thanks for your suggestion.
 
 Best,
 
 Sei
 
 
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 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do 
 any
 of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
 characters in them?
 
 Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
 Apple's default IAC driver should be appeared but it is indicated as
 blank. (see attached file.)
 driver is translated in Japanese.
 Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
 I will try it under English mode later.
 
 I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in 
 English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this 
 command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the 
 result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into 
 a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media-Audio Settings, 
 and Media-MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do 
 Audio and MIDI separately.
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
 -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
 
 The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
 the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, 
 this is what I get when I do that:
 
 
 $ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
 -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
 StartNotification name = default
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set ::tmp_path {}
 set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
 set ::tmp_path {}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path 
 {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
 set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
 set ::startup_flags {}
 set ::startup_libraries {}
 pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
 {Monaco} normal
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set pd_whichapi 4
 pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
8 5 11
9 6 12
10 6 13
12 7 16
14 8 17
16 10 19
18 11 22
24 14 29
30 18 37
36 22 44
 ;
 
 pd autopatch 0;
 
 pd autopatch 0;
 
 pd audio-properties;
 global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
 global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
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Re: [PD] Urgent! Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I have my
patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I open the
01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get error: inlet: expected
'float' but got 'bang', whereas if I open 01_basics.pd without having my
patch open, everything seems to work fine. I'm not using [send] from
[metro] to [link] and [mass], but I rather connect them with cords.
I'm just sending this one as well in case it's a hint that will help
someone who might know what's wrong.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been using [link]x[mass] sending [setK 9, setD 0, setD2 500( to
 [link] and [setM 1( to [mass] in a patch and it worked fine when
 sending a ramp from 0 to 1 with [line]. Just now though it looks like these
 two objects don't work properly any more as the values produced by [mass]
 go to something like 1790, which is totally weird. The patch was working
 half an hour ago (a bit too big to post) and now it's behaving crazy.
 Any ideas why this happens?

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
 have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
 open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get error:
 inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang', whereas if I open
 01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
 fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
 rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
 in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
 wrong.

wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2013-01-08 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the
 example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave
 the way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to
 see what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working
 on (which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the
 same strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a
 sudden.. I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if
 anyone's willing to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd
 object1], [pd object2] etc. inside [pd coordinates1].. It used to
 be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles wouldn't
 behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything 
 was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.
 

i haven't really tried to understand your patch, but you will most
likely find, that [trigger] will fix most of your problems.

**never ever connect one message outlet to multiple message inlets;
always use [trigger] in such cases**

fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Well, it's full of [trigger]s..


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:25 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

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 Hash: SHA1

 On 2013-01-08 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
  No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the
  example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave
  the way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to
  see what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working
  on (which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the
  same strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a
  sudden.. I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if
  anyone's willing to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd
  object1], [pd object2] etc. inside [pd coordinates1].. It used to
  be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles wouldn't
  behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything
  was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.
 

 i haven't really tried to understand your patch, but you will most
 likely find, that [trigger] will fix most of your problems.

 **never ever connect one message outlet to multiple message inlets;
 always use [trigger] in such cases**

 fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
...Don't really get it. Anyway, it seems it came back to normal. For some
reason it went crazy for some 20 minutes and settled back to what it's
supposed to be doing. Hope I don't get this in a couple of days during a
gig I have, crossing fingers..


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:43 PM, plutek plu...@infinity.net wrote:

 From: Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com

  Well, it's full of [trigger]s..

 [OT] -- h, why am i suddenly thinking HAL, Dave, 2001 etc?
 .pltk.

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

You have a receive sharing the same name as in the example patch.
It's in [pd rect-length] and it's [r G].
Not a very specific name... :)


On 08/01/2013 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the 
example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave the 
way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to see 
what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working on 
(which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the same 
strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a sudden..
I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if anyone's willing 
to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd object1], [pd object2] etc. 
inside [pd coordinates1]..
It used to be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles 
wouldn't behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that 
everything was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at 
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


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On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
 Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
 have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
 open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get error:
 inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang', whereas if I open
 01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
 fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
 rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
 in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
 wrong.

wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd

fgmasdr
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Damn! That was for the length of the letter G for [text2d]. Sorry for that.
Still the weird behavior didn't have to do with this, but as I said, it's
now gone.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant
po.boul...@free.frwrote:

  You have a receive sharing the same name as in the example patch.
 It's in [pd rect-length] and it's [r G].
 Not a very specific name... :)



 On 08/01/2013 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:

  No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the example
 patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave the way they do
 in my patch, which is really strange. In order to see what's wrong I opened
 earlier versions of the patch I'm working on (which were using [link] and
 [mass] fine) and they also show the same strange behavior. It looks like a
 bug hit it all of a sudden..
  I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if anyone's willing to
 check. Physical modelling is inside [pd object1], [pd object2] etc. inside
 [pd coordinates1]..
  It used to be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles
 wouldn't behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything
 was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.


 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:

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 Hash: SHA1

 On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
  Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
  have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
  open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get error:
  inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang', whereas if I open
  01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
  fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
  rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
  in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
  wrong.

 wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
 re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
 but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
 understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

2013-01-08 Thread plutek
From: Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com

 Well, it's full of [trigger]s..

[OT] -- h, why am i suddenly thinking HAL, Dave, 2001 etc?
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Re: [PD] Counter that keeps time with an ogg file?

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

You can have one-sample accuracy if you load the sound into a table/array and
play it that way.  You might try comparing oggread~'s accuracy to readsf~.
I've had pretty accurate playback with reafsf~, certainly a lot better than
what you are getting.  That should tell you whether the problem lies in 
oggread~.

I know that Olaf Matthes, the author of the pdogg objects, took them closed
source and started selling ogg pro objects for Max/MSP.  They might be
improved.  But it would be nice if someone fixed up any issues in the pdogg
objects.

.hc

On 01/08/2013 12:53 PM, Filippo Peccoz wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 I'm trying to sync a counter that keeps track of bars and beats of an ogg 
 file that is started simultaneously. Unfortunately, there's a big evident 
 drift after just 5-10 seconds.
 
 I'm using oggread~ and simple metro constructs for this. Am I missing 
 something? Is there a reliable way to display/deduce bars and beats from a 
 linear playing audio file (compressed audio file, that is!)
 
 Thanks to all, as always,
 
 Filippo
 
 
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[PD] OT: Web hosting solution for running PD

2013-01-08 Thread Tyler Leavitt
Hello list,

I write a lot of generative sound art, and for the ones I would like to
include on my online resume I would prefer to have streaming audio of
patches actively running rather than recorded audio. I know, it's
nit-picky, but putting a pre-recorded audio clip of a generative patch
seems dirty to me. I currently host my page from my comp (and I can do this
just fine) but I'm going to be putting it in someone else's hands for the
reliability factor.

Has anyone here had experience getting a web hosting company to allow you
to run an instance of Pd on their servers? What solutions are available to
me?

Thanks,
Tyler
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[PD] documentation of kinect pd/gem externals

2013-01-08 Thread Matthias Kronlachner

hi list!

maybe this is interesting for people working or planing to work with the 
kinect and pd/gem.


i finished a documentation about the kinect pd/gem externals 
(pix_freenect, pix_openni, pix_threshold_depth, pix_depth2rgba, 
freenect, freenect_audio)
it deals with general properties of the sensor and describes the 
externals and their usage in various applications.


you can get the pdf document here:
http://iem.kug.ac.at/fileadmin/media/iem/projects/2012/kronlachner_01.pdf

software and examples can be found at my github repo:
https://github.com/kronihias/

have fun
matthias

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[PD] My guitar / PD rig for live performance

2013-01-08 Thread Rick Bragg
Hi Everyone,

I made a patch for my guitar rig that I use for live performance.  Some if it is
very specific to my setup, but there is also a sound-on-sound sub-patch, and a 
dual
stereo loadable playback sub-patch and a custom preset system.  If you can 
think of
any improvements please let me know!

http://www.commontonerecords.com/artists/rickbragg#puredata

Thanks!
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Re: [PD] vbap 1.0.3.2 fails when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ah, that's an important tidbit of info!  If that's not in the bug report,
please include which version is working.

.hc

On 01/08/2013 06:53 PM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi HC- Yeah,  I kind of gave up at a certain point, figuring that I was 
 poorly equipped to get to the bottom of that one quickly. I posted a ticket.  
 For now, I suppose I'll grab an earlier version that seems to work, and 
 switch back, once the bug gets sorted out.  
 
 cheers,
 
 Zack
 
 
 
 
 
 On 2013-01-07, at 12:28 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 

 Hey Zach,

 Looks like you've gone deep into it :)  Sounds like those MAX macros are set
 because the code can't currently handle longer lists.  I won't have time to
 look at this for a while.  Could you post a bug report to the bug tracker
 (Help menu -- report bug) with the info in this email?  Also it might be
 worth your while to see if anyone has tried this when using this object in
 Max/MSP.  Its the same code.

 .hc

 On 01/07/2013 09:45 AM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph,

 Thanks for your previous reply before the holidays. 

 Just to refresh the subject:

 using Pd-0.42.5-extended.app, Pd-0.43-3.app, and Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121101
 on OSX 10.6x and 10.7x,

 vbap 1.0.3.2 crashes when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages


 the PD console displays: vbap: Loudspeaker setup configured! pd: getbytes() 
 failed -- out of memory vbap: Configure loudspeakers first!
 and the program crashes.


 (It appears to be failing in the vbap_matrix method.  But, perhaps, the 
 data sent to that message is already bad).




 Following your suggestion, 

 I tried doubling both MAX_LS_AMOUNT as well as MAX_LS_SETS.  Now the 
 program does not crash, vbap fails each time:  when sent the 
 define_loudspeakers,   the PD console displays: 


 vbap loudspeaker-matrices: param 475 is not a float.   (from vbap_matrix 
 method)


 Things I have noticed:

 --The above param number in the error message will be different each time 
 pd is relaunched and a new attempt is made. 
 --increasing MAX_LS_AMOUNT and MAX_LS_SETS 10 times introduces 
 intermittency:Some times the same error message above will be 
 displayed,  sometimes it the define_loudspeakers message will succeed, and 
 VBAP will function correctly.
 -- occasionally,  a different error message in the pd console will result:
 Dimension can be only 2 or 3 (from vbap_matrix method)

 --And of course, the problem does not manifest when smaller configurations 
 are used (i.e.  shorter define_loudspeakers messages).



 I wrestled with the problem for a long time without getting any further.  
 Maybe you, or someone out there, will have some greater insight into this 
 problem.  Any assistance or additional suggestions would be greatly 
 appreciated, since the problem above comes with the latest pd-extended.  


 Below is the the vbap message that provokes the problem:


 define_loudspeakers 3 0 90 -7.5 55 52.5 55 112.5 55 172.5
 55 -127.5 55 -67.5 55 7.5 20 37.5 20 67.5 20 97.5 20 127.5 20 157.5
 20 -172.5 20 -142.5 20 -112.5 20 -82.5 20 -52.5 20 -22.5 20 7.5 -15
 37.5 -15 67.5 -15 97.5 -15 127.5 -15 157.5 -15 -172.5 -15 -142.5 -15
 -112.5 -15 -82.5 -15 -52.5 -15 -22.5 -15


 thanks

 Zack

















 On Dec 22, 2012, at 0:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Sounds like you are the first to try it with that many speakers!  My guess 
 is that something that allocates memory is hard-coded to a pretty short 
 number.  I've used it a lot for 6 speakers and had no crashes.

 Try changing this in vbap.h:
 #define MAX_LS_AMOUNT 55

 .hc

 On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Zack Settel wrote:

 Hi List,


 It seems that VBAP v 1.0.3.2 (downloaded sources from 
 puredata.info/downloads/vbap/releases/1.0.3.2)  is crashing when send the 
 define-loudspeakers message.  

 When sent:

 define_loudspeakers 3 0 90 -7.5 55 52.5 55 112.5 55 172.5
 55 -127.5 55 -67.5 55 7.5 20 37.5 20 67.5 20 97.5 20 127.5 20 157.5
 20 -172.5 20 -142.5 20 -112.5 20 -82.5 20 -52.5 20 -22.5 20 7.5 -15
 37.5 -15 67.5 -15 97.5 -15 127.5 -15 157.5 -15 -172.5 -15 -142.5 -15
 -112.5 -15 -82.5 -15 -52.5 -15 -22.5 -15


 the length of the list is 64


 an error appears on the PD console :

 vbap loudspeaker-matrices: param 11132 is not a float
 pd: getbytes() failed -- out of memory
 vbap: Configure loudspeakers first!



 context:  pd vanilla  0.43-3
 vbap: 1.0.3.2

 mac OSX 10.8.2


 Note:  does not crash when same message is truncated to a length of 16,


















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[PD] vbap 1.0.3.2 fails when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages

2013-01-08 Thread katja
Hello,

This issue seems somehow related to changing 'float' into Pd's type
't_float' about a year ago. I checked a few builds to find out where
the issue started. Most changes were made 2011-11-16 (by me). The
2011-11-25 build does not show the issue yet.

Apparently I had overlooked a few instances of 'float', and Hans did
more changes on 2012-01-12. Most of these are in lines which are
commented out anyway, there is only one change that has effect, and it
is in line 230 of define_loudspeakers.c. Leaving commented-out lines
away, it reads:

t_float azi = 0;
if(av[pointer].a_type == A_FLOAT) azi = av[pointer].a_w.w_float;
else { error(define-loudspeakers: direction angle #%d NaN,i+1);
x-x_ls_read = 0; return; }

In the 20120216 build, the message 'param  is not a float' pops
up. However, Pd does not crash (also not when closing the patch). So,
there may be an extra issue, introduced later. I can't imagine how
't_float' could be a problem here, as it is perfectly equivalent to
'float', if m_pd.h is included. Without m_pd.h it should not compile,
but m_pd.h is included via other headers.

Also on 2012-01-12, a variable 'epsilon' of type t_float was
introduced in the same file, but this seems less related to the issue.

Katja



On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, that's an important tidbit of info!  If that's not in the bug report,
 please include which version is working.

 .hc

 On 01/08/2013 06:53 PM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi HC- Yeah,  I kind of gave up at a certain point, figuring that I was 
 poorly equipped to get to the bottom of that one quickly. I posted a ticket. 
  For now, I suppose I'll grab an earlier version that seems to work, and 
 switch back, once the bug gets sorted out.

 cheers,

 Zack





 On 2013-01-07, at 12:28 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Hey Zach,

 Looks like you've gone deep into it :)  Sounds like those MAX macros are set
 because the code can't currently handle longer lists.  I won't have time to
 look at this for a while.  Could you post a bug report to the bug tracker
 (Help menu -- report bug) with the info in this email?  Also it might be
 worth your while to see if anyone has tried this when using this object in
 Max/MSP.  Its the same code.

 .hc

 On 01/07/2013 09:45 AM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph,

 Thanks for your previous reply before the holidays.

 Just to refresh the subject:

 using Pd-0.42.5-extended.app, Pd-0.43-3.app, and 
 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121101
 on OSX 10.6x and 10.7x,

 vbap 1.0.3.2 crashes when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages


 the PD console displays: vbap: Loudspeaker setup configured! pd: 
 getbytes() failed -- out of memory vbap: Configure loudspeakers first!
 and the program crashes.


 (It appears to be failing in the vbap_matrix method.  But, perhaps, the 
 data sent to that message is already bad).




 Following your suggestion,

 I tried doubling both MAX_LS_AMOUNT as well as MAX_LS_SETS.  Now the 
 program does not crash, vbap fails each time:  when sent the 
 define_loudspeakers,   the PD console displays:


 vbap loudspeaker-matrices: param 475 is not a float.   (from vbap_matrix 
 method)


 Things I have noticed:

 --The above param number in the error message will be different each time 
 pd is relaunched and a new attempt is made.
 --increasing MAX_LS_AMOUNT and MAX_LS_SETS 10 times introduces 
 intermittency:Some times the same error message above will be 
 displayed,  sometimes it the define_loudspeakers message will succeed, and 
 VBAP will function correctly.
 -- occasionally,  a different error message in the pd console will result:
 Dimension can be only 2 or 3 (from vbap_matrix method)

 --And of course, the problem does not manifest when smaller configurations 
 are used (i.e.  shorter define_loudspeakers messages).



 I wrestled with the problem for a long time without getting any further.  
 Maybe you, or someone out there, will have some greater insight into this 
 problem.  Any assistance or additional suggestions would be greatly 
 appreciated, since the problem above comes with the latest pd-extended.


 Below is the the vbap message that provokes the problem:


 define_loudspeakers 3 0 90 -7.5 55 52.5 55 112.5 55 172.5
 55 -127.5 55 -67.5 55 7.5 20 37.5 20 67.5 20 97.5 20 127.5 20 157.5
 20 -172.5 20 -142.5 20 -112.5 20 -82.5 20 -52.5 20 -22.5 20 7.5 -15
 37.5 -15 67.5 -15 97.5 -15 127.5 -15 157.5 -15 -172.5 -15 -142.5 -15
 -112.5 -15 -82.5 -15 -52.5 -15 -22.5 -15


 thanks

 Zack

















 On Dec 22, 2012, at 0:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Sounds like you are the first to try it with that many speakers!  My 
 guess is that something that allocates memory is hard-coded to a pretty 
 short number.  I've used it a lot for 6 speakers and had no crashes.

 Try changing this in vbap.h:
 #define MAX_LS_AMOUNT 55

 .hc

 On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Zack Settel wrote:

 Hi List,


 It seems that VBAP v 1.0.3.2 (downloaded 

Re: [PD] vbap 1.0.3.2 fails when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey Katya,

Looks like you and me are off the hook for causing this bug ;) I used
svn-bisect to find the commit that introduced this issue:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15871

So I I emailed the author of that patch to see if he's got any insight.

Here's Zach's bug report:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3599983group_id=55736atid=478070

Here's my little build/test script for use with svn-bisect:
svn revert -R . ; make clean; sed -i 's|^#define \(MAX_LS_[A-Z]*\)
[0-9]*|#define \1 200|' vbap.h  make  pd -noprefs -open vbap64-test.pd

.hc

On 01/08/2013 09:19 PM, katja wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This issue seems somehow related to changing 'float' into Pd's type
 't_float' about a year ago. I checked a few builds to find out where
 the issue started. Most changes were made 2011-11-16 (by me). The
 2011-11-25 build does not show the issue yet.
 
 Apparently I had overlooked a few instances of 'float', and Hans did
 more changes on 2012-01-12. Most of these are in lines which are
 commented out anyway, there is only one change that has effect, and it
 is in line 230 of define_loudspeakers.c. Leaving commented-out lines
 away, it reads:
 
 t_float azi = 0;
 if(av[pointer].a_type == A_FLOAT) azi = av[pointer].a_w.w_float;
 else { error(define-loudspeakers: direction angle #%d NaN,i+1);
 x-x_ls_read = 0; return; }
 
 In the 20120216 build, the message 'param  is not a float' pops
 up. However, Pd does not crash (also not when closing the patch). So,
 there may be an extra issue, introduced later. I can't imagine how
 't_float' could be a problem here, as it is perfectly equivalent to
 'float', if m_pd.h is included. Without m_pd.h it should not compile,
 but m_pd.h is included via other headers.
 
 Also on 2012-01-12, a variable 'epsilon' of type t_float was
 introduced in the same file, but this seems less related to the issue.
 
 Katja
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, that's an important tidbit of info!  If that's not in the bug report,
 please include which version is working.

 .hc

 On 01/08/2013 06:53 PM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi HC- Yeah,  I kind of gave up at a certain point, figuring that I was 
 poorly equipped to get to the bottom of that one quickly. I posted a 
 ticket.  For now, I suppose I'll grab an earlier version that seems to 
 work, and switch back, once the bug gets sorted out.

 cheers,

 Zack





 On 2013-01-07, at 12:28 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Hey Zach,

 Looks like you've gone deep into it :)  Sounds like those MAX macros are 
 set
 because the code can't currently handle longer lists.  I won't have time to
 look at this for a while.  Could you post a bug report to the bug tracker
 (Help menu -- report bug) with the info in this email?  Also it might be
 worth your while to see if anyone has tried this when using this object in
 Max/MSP.  Its the same code.

 .hc

 On 01/07/2013 09:45 AM, Zack Settel wrote:
 Hi Hans-Christoph,

 Thanks for your previous reply before the holidays.

 Just to refresh the subject:

 using Pd-0.42.5-extended.app, Pd-0.43-3.app, and 
 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121101
 on OSX 10.6x and 10.7x,

 vbap 1.0.3.2 crashes when sent longer define_loudspeakers messages


 the PD console displays: vbap: Loudspeaker setup configured! pd: 
 getbytes() failed -- out of memory vbap: Configure loudspeakers first!
 and the program crashes.


 (It appears to be failing in the vbap_matrix method.  But, perhaps, the 
 data sent to that message is already bad).




 Following your suggestion,

 I tried doubling both MAX_LS_AMOUNT as well as MAX_LS_SETS.  Now the 
 program does not crash, vbap fails each time:  when sent the 
 define_loudspeakers,   the PD console displays:


 vbap loudspeaker-matrices: param 475 is not a float.   (from 
 vbap_matrix method)


 Things I have noticed:

 --The above param number in the error message will be different each time 
 pd is relaunched and a new attempt is made.
 --increasing MAX_LS_AMOUNT and MAX_LS_SETS 10 times introduces 
 intermittency:Some times the same error message above will be 
 displayed,  sometimes it the define_loudspeakers message will succeed, 
 and VBAP will function correctly.
 -- occasionally,  a different error message in the pd console will result:
 Dimension can be only 2 or 3 (from vbap_matrix method)

 --And of course, the problem does not manifest when smaller 
 configurations are used (i.e.  shorter define_loudspeakers messages).



 I wrestled with the problem for a long time without getting any further.  
 Maybe you, or someone out there, will have some greater insight into this 
 problem.  Any assistance or additional suggestions would be greatly 
 appreciated, since the problem above comes with the latest pd-extended.


 Below is the the vbap message that provokes the problem:


 define_loudspeakers 3 0 90 -7.5 55 52.5 55 112.5 55 172.5
 55 -127.5 55 -67.5 55 7.5 20 37.5 20 

[PD] more strings to translate

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I dug up a bunch more strings to make translatable, including some error
messages, and debug loading messages for plugins.  Also, the file type
descriptions from the open and save panels.  These will show up here once
transifex syncs with the pd-extended git:
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/resource/pd-extended/

Then I added some GNU/Linux specific ones, basically the pop up description in
the menu, and the short name of the document types:
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/resource/pd-extendeddesktop/
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/resource/free-desktop-shared-mime-info/

.hc

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

2013-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ok, some more bug fixes:

- restored opening of .mxb and .help files from Max/MSP
- fixed Roman's crasher bug with dynamically created subpatches
- (GNU/Linux) fixed double-click opening of unicode file names
- (GNU/Linux) fixed double-click opening of files with spaces in the name
- (GNU/Linux) hopefully fixed the icon for .pd files, let me know if you see
this on your machine, .pd patches should look like the attached image


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