Re: [PD] Random - Different seed each time the patch is loaded
Martin Peach wrote: Or have a single random generator inside pd that feeds all the random objects. yes of course, this would be the most straight forward solution. mfgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 'pure' pd DSP abstractions wanted!
Enrique Erne wrote: just out of curiosity: ~.pd, ~.pd, sgn~ and what else in zexy are already pd-vanilla abstractions (some of them are both abstractions and externals for performance reasons); is there an advantage in collecting these things in yet another arbitrary (as opposed to grouped by functionality) library? where are any abstractions/externals grouped by functionality? do you mean pdmtl? i didn't mean any special library; it was rather a comment on the absence of grouped by functionality libs. just to be clear: the files netpd.org/eni/purepd/ are not collected as library, they are just there since i have no other place to put them and it could be useful for purepd reasons. i did not want to offend you for pointing to your files. the thing i was asking about was, whether these objects should be added to another arbitrary library in svn (a request for which i paranoidedly sensed), without any benefit. the svn purepd patches contain some abstractions that confuse me a bit. actually i would like to contribute to purepd. (i.e. why is there moses and clip?) well, it proves hat you don't need an external to use them :-) i guess it is rather didactic, but i don't see any harm in having them there. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Idiomatic Pd
when I try to add a wiki page to the Style Guide folder. Could you or IOhannes try, maybe? i always thought i had already fixed this. hmm, obviously not I just discovered that you fixed it IOhannes, thanks very much! Back to work then. ah sorry that i haven't told anyone. i forgot to find your original email to answer it. anyhow, good that you found out yourself... fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems with pd extended (0.40.3)
martin brinkmann wrote: Si Mills wrote: I've been using [expr~ ] as a workaround eg. [expr~ $v10.5] ok, it is good to know that there is a workaround, actually zexy provides the [~] objects _additionally_ as abstraction which do exactly this: wrap [expr~] the only problem with this is, that you have to decide beforehand whether you want to have signals or float (messages) on the right-hand input. that's the main reason why zexy also provides [~] as an external object (that allows both, depending on whether you specify a default argument - just like [+~] and the like) and i will probably use the expr-method in the future for compatibility with 'pd vanilla'. but i am not looking forward to converting all my patches... thanks for your hint! it's probably always a good idea to try to have a look inside 3rd-party objects; sometimes they really are just abstractions and you can learn a lot... amdsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] getting started with webcam/pdp
Atte André Jensen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You could pull out the pidip.pd_linux and use it with a different version of Pd-extended. Ok, I downloaded, patched and compiled pdp succesfully, however the problem is still there (pd crashes when trying to use the webcam in pdp). However (begin new to video) I discovered that GEM also has some video processing stuff. Would that be a way to go? What *can't* I do in GEM that would be possible either pdp? loads of things...well, i don't know; i would ask the question the other way around: does Gem/pdp/gf/... can do everything you want? anyhow, the good thing is that there is gem2pdp (and vice versa) bridge, so you can combine the powers of the various libs. Finally the image has distorted colors (skin is blue, for instance) when used under GEM. I tried the cam in other software (for instance skype) and it's fine. Any ideas what to do about this? hmm, do i remember which version of Gem you are talking about? apart from this: - simple solution; use [pix_colormatrix] to rotate the colourspace till the channels match (red=red, green=green, blue=blue) - non-portable solution: in line Pixes/videoV4L.cpp:160 change the fromBGRA() to frmRGBA() and recompile Gem. fmgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ratts object on OSX
Bryan Jurish wrote: (your error message looks hauntingly familiar, but I can't remember in what context I last saw it...), but I you see it whenever an object that Pd was unable to create receives a message (that is: the ghost of this object) in short this means: either the compilation of necessary objects failed or you should add the paths to the objects to your Pd startup. use Find last error, it will tell you more. take a close look at the Pd-console, it will tell you even more. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default Save As location (was: [openpanel]/[savepanel]directory, [cd])
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, I'm the wrong person to comment on MS-Windows or Mac, as I don't use these and don't care even the teeny-tiniest bit about what happens to iirc, you can set the working directory on w32 in your link. so i suggest setting it to %HOME% (or whatever the name is) and no need to modify a single line of code within Pd. i am sure that there is a mechanism for this on OSX too (where i admit that it is really annoying that Pd thinks it is started from /; but i would rather have os flaws fixed on the os level rather than on the app-level...) mfgas.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!
Enrique Erne wrote: should i file a bugreport for... uhm.. expr or 0x3c0x7e.pd ? for the hexloader fgmadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
marius schebella wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: maybe this is a 10.5 related problem? which version of osx were you using? ah, that might be.nes i think, all the machines i have access to (G5 and i686) still run on 10.4 fgmsdf IOhan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fftease-help was Re: chromatic fft
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List... i looked at these objects today (very proud because i inally have my flext installation running) ;-) And comparing the flext distribution with the original from here... http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/ oh, that's getting more complicated than it should: it seems like the fftease you are trying to run is the backport done by thomas grill using flext. i was rather referring to eric's original objects (the link you have posted) which are now (for some time) available for Pd anyhow, so no need to use the reverse-engineered(?) objects by thomas. The help files from the original are far more descriptive . Shouldnt at least the text-parts be included in pd-extended ?? I think the help files will not work directly because the objects have varying numbers of in- and outlets... if you use eric's fftease-library, the help-files should work:-) mfgasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: wiiremote.pd_darwin and create [wiiremote]. This object currently only successfully fetches one value, so don't bother unless you are going to get down into the details and write the strange Carbon CFRunLoop trickery it needs to get more values. hmm, the [wiimote] object i use returns all the values i asked it for (buttons, all accelerations, 4 IR-blobs; everything at the same time) are you talking about [aka.wiiremote], or about [wiimote] not being able to access several wiiremote-devices, or about some osx speciality of any or one of these two externals (which one?)? fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem compilation for abling [pix_film] to open video file (read homer.avi)
tommaso bianco wrote: Hi all, I suppose I have to bind the compilation with some codec library in my system, but which and how? correct. you have to have libavifile-dev (here it is: libavifile-0.7-dev; it might be something like avifile-devel on a fedora machine) installed at configure-/compile-/run-time. Gem's configure will automatically detect the presence of this library and use it at compilation time. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
marius schebella wrote: after installation I noticed that I never have used pd raw (outside of /Applications), and don't know how to start it. you mean like: $ /Applications/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd or $ ../bin/pd didn't you use linux before you switched to osx? mfga IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] SQL-Python-puredata (text encode?)
ths wrote: Hi List ! I make a patch how receive text from a python script by OSC (python read a DB with MySQLdb). Pd receive text from python but when i put special chars (é^ ... etc), it says to me: Type tag said this arg is a string but it's not! PD accept UNICODE, ASCII, ... UTF-8 ? how do you receive data on the pd side? via OSC? which library? OSCx or mrpeach's net/osc stuff? fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS Manual)
Steffen Juul wrote: On 07/05/2008, at 9.54, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Derek Holzer wrote: 4) Grammar/spelling, of course Miller refers to Pd rather than PD, shouldn't this canonical form be used? (which reminds me, that even the header of this list says [PD] :-|) Oh dear. Any chance of changing that (for all the iem-lists)? Please. i could easily. but then i guess 500 people will start shouting at me, because their mail-filters won't work anymore :-) if nobody objects within the next week, i will change the subject-prefix from [PD] to [Pd] (and accordingly) on all Pd-related mailinglists. fgmadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem crash using fglrx driver in ubuntu
Tim wrote: Ok just built the latest sources disabling hidio and gem2pdp because of errors, and it looks like verything is back to normal. I set GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=1 too. Cool. Thanks so it does not crash with GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=1 (?) does it (still) crash without setting it? fgmasdr Ihannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] SQL-Python-puredata (text encode?)
hi
(please always answer to the list if it might be of interest to it...)
ths wrote:
i receive data by OSC ... but we find a solution: python encode text on
ASCII before send to PD (text2D/text3D in gem).
Now, i think that is good ! But if you have any informations about text
encodage in PD, i would like to know why i can't receive special
charaters in a SYMBOL when it receives by OSC !
If not, how would make you to pass a character string from symbol to a
message ?
Gem's [text3d] (and [text2d], but why would you want to use that?) has
another possibility to get the text:
use a message string char1 char2 char3 ... where char# is a
numeric representation of the character.
e.g. string 123 64 125 will display [EMAIL PROTECTED] (123 being the
ASCII-code
for '{',...)
the fun-part comes now:
string 232 673 294 (232 being the unicode for 'é', ...)
of course, the font you use has to support these characters (vera.ttf
(that comes with Gem) does not have characters 294 or 673 (the latter
being from the IPA-section of unicode that is contained in few fonts))
it should be pretty easy to send the numeric values from python instead
of characters/symbols)
fgmasdr
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote
hard off wrote: you will probably need a middleman program to take the wii data and convert it into OSC messages so PD can read it. what's wrong with [wiimote]? anyhow, i haven't done such a patch yet. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem crash using fglrx driver in ubuntu
tommaso bianco wrote: Hi, I confirm. It definitively works for me just after setting the environmental variable (in ~/.bashrc) GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=1. Before that, X was shutting down and going back to the gdm login after each Gem window creation. The environmental variable GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=1 must be on both in compile time and in run time. thanks, i will add this to the FAQ. (btw, GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=1 at compile-time means nothing and is ignored; seems i was unclear about this) one last thing for all the brave ubuntu testers: could you try to find out what get's posted when Gem crashes? like: % export GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT=0 % pd -stderr -lib Gem gemcrash.log 21 ..create a gemwindow (and crash X) ..send me the gemcrash.log mfg.adsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mailing-List header
Steffen Juul wrote: On 09/05/2008, at 11.27, Roman Haefeli wrote: changing the mail filters shouldn't be too hard ;-) And why filter list-mail by subject? I might miss an obvious reason, thats why i ask. i assumed that many people have never ever looked at the mail-headers of an email - apart from the obvious fields that are shown by default on most mtas (subject:, from:, date:, ...) - and don't even know that they could filter based on rfc2919 i might be wrong of course. mgf,adsr IOhannes PS: probably most people don't do any filtering anyhow... ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx
marius schebella wrote: exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus except file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk icon is in the taskbar. weird. i also get the tcl-tk icon and wish as a name. i admit that i don't care much. however, i can use Pd just like i am used to use it. (open patches, create new ones) fg,asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] crash in fedora ehn opening patch
Jaime Oliver wrote: Hello I am trying to open the attached patch in Fedora 8, but just crashes. It opens perfectly in OSX. Right after opening the patch i get the following message [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./pd Pd: signal 4 TIFFOpen: /home/joliverl/Desktop/VIVO test 2/./img/shipibo.JPG: Cannot open. pd_gui: pd process exited does anyone have any idea why this could be? does the image exist? if so, is the image-file valid? (try opening it with another image-viewer) it might be related to the C++exception-vs-openGL(nvidia) bug (which is not Gem specific but a problem with the drivers (or something else); there is an outstanding bug-report on debian for years...) fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Am 25.04.2008 um 12:48 schrieb hard off: who thought of mtx_*~ though??? a bit over the top isn't it? why over the top ?? as i understood hardoff's remark, [mtx_*~] is a bit overpowered to do mere routing (being able to mix signals, have any gain and doing interpolation) and thus a potential waste of ressources. (cf: mit kanonen auf spatzen schießen) nevertheless, [mtx_*~] should be rather optimized when dealing with multiplication of 1 and 0. speaking of this, i now remember that i do have 2 audio-routing matrices in zexy: [demux~] and [mux~] (for pd-extended users these are probably called [demultiplex~] and [multiplex~]) they have been written as counterparts to the full-featured [matrix~] (now [mtx_*~]), but as you probably have guessed from my lack of memory, i hardly ever (actually quite never) use it... fgmaser IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla?
Enrique Erne wrote: or [biquad~ 0 0 0 1] Miller Puckette wrote: I believe z~ is just rzero~ 0. no. both of them are equivalent to [z~ 1] you could also argue that [f] is just the same as [0( :-) fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I'm stuck in a corner, please help! RE: [delta~] object was: Re: Cyclone in vanilla?
Enrique Erne wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Enrique Erne wrote: or [biquad~ 0 0 0 1] Miller Puckette wrote: I believe z~ is just rzero~ 0. no. both of them are equivalent to [z~ 1] you could also argue that [f] is just the same as [0( :-) oups, yes ofcorse z~ 1. the output of 1 sample with rzero~ 0, z~ 1 and biquad~ 0 0 0 1 seems to be slightly different. if one wants to be fuzzy about that :) maybe ome rounding problem? no, i don't see any rounding errors... and now i even couldn't do the delwrite/read with the subpatch :( :( it's generally a good idea to tell [delwrite~] how much space it should allocate for the delayline. e.g. [delwrite~ abcd 1000] helped a lot... and [rzero~ 0] is not the same as [z~ 1]. the output of [z~ 1] is y[n]=x[n-1] according to [rzero~]s help-patch it does the following: y[n]=x[n]-a[n]*x[n-1] since you set a[n] to 0, you just get y[n]=x[n] :-( to get [z~ 1], do something like | +--+ | | | [rzero~ 1] | | [-~] | fmgads.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
hard off wrote: isn't there some sort of [matrix~] external that can do that sort of thing? i'm sure i saw it before, but can't find it in my current pd-extended i guess you are referring to [mtx_*~] in iemmatrix (former known as [matrix~] (and even former being part of zexy. as i understand it, luigi's solution is for routing messages (even though he claims including audio i haven't seen this in his implementation - but i only had a short glance so i probably missed it) nevertheless, i think it would be interesting if luigi's solution would somehow integrate into iemmatrix (on a message-level) fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
hard off wrote: ahh, name changegets me every time. well, iemmatrix still provides [matrix~] for backward compatibility. and still no help file. obviously audio matrices are so simple that everyone can understand them ;P probably you have just deleted this file yourself, since audio matrices are so simple. if you want it back, get it from: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem/iemmatrix/doc/mtx_mul~-help.pd mfga.df IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
hard off wrote: i didn't delete it. had a good look, and the help file doesn't seem to be a part of pd-extended hans build for os x. well, how about filing a bug-report then? (i think it is a packaging bug in pd-extended; but you also might just have a very outdated version of pd-extended that has not yet included this helpfile (pre 2006-03-28, according to the logs)) mfgas.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
hard off wrote: actually, none of the matrix help files work on osx not [matrix], nor [matrix~]. nor [mtx_*~] this is a well known bug (though opinions differ here) in Pd-extended, as it does not allow aliases of object names. fga,sr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Retrieving Text form a URL | Webpage
mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Didn't find any results on search... Do we know a way to retrieve/grab Text from a webpage/url in PD... ... then write it to a textfile maybe? or insert into a list. you don't have to use Pd, you could just do wget [URL] myfile.txt you can run this from within Pd (using [shell]) or create a small server that communicates with Pd using netsend/netreceive (or whatever you prefer). i have posted examples on how to the latter on this list before (so see the archives). i have used this method extensively to display websites within Pd (e.g. for http://umlaeute.mur.at/projects/surf-the-net) an alternative method is to use the [tcpclient] object of mrpeach; the help-patch even shows how to access a website. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd extended build environment
Joseph Barrows wrote: thanks IOhannes, i'm trying to avoid needing to build it myself, 've been using pd/gem for a few years, started with the planet ccrma system, after having broken my linux system several times and having to re-install i decided to try ubuntu and stick with a policy of install stable version (when will pd hit version 1.0?) i don't think that there are any plans to move to 1.0 ever. (but of course i really don't know; i am not making the version numbers) use ffmpeg : no (forced) hmm, maybe i should compile it myself then probably not. ffmpeg support in Gem is not something i would consider stable. (the API is changing so fast...) mpeg and mpeg-3 are just able to decode mpeg-file, which you don't seem to care about right now. onl;y because i need the number of frames, and pixmovie always seems to return 0 for mpeg files (i have build a video player that fades between clips, and so it needs to know when a clip is about to end) i see, does it help if you create a table-of-contents first? iirc, there is a tool mpeg3toc which will create TOC from an mpeg-file which can then be fed into [pix_film] to allow frame accurate accessing of mpeg-files (and probably the exact number of frames in the file). otoh, it seems that this has stopped working some time ago... probably you should just check. the funnier parts are quicktime and aviplay; these APIs both support a number of codecs depending on how they were compiled and/or which codecs they find on your harddisk. even funnier is that my linux machine now plays more in PD than it does in VLC, something has gone wrong again ... hmm, i would rather say that this is cool. watchout, one day Pd/Gem will be the most universal movie-player ever. gem still causes PD to completely die when given a video file it doesn't like. which is not fine. i suspect that it is libmpeg1 (if it is really used; check out which APIs are really supported when creating the first [pix_film]) - this library is highly unstable; it's only in the code in case libmpeg3 is missing and you still want to decode mpeg-files. mfgads IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and PDP-PiDiP
Jack wrote: Hello, I have a problem when i use GEM and PDP at the same time with pd-extended 0.39.3 on MacOSX.4.11 (powerbook G4). When i draw a square in the GEM window and start a video in X11 window with [pdp_yqt], the square in GEM window disappears. (See the patch attached). i have no idea, but try disabling threaded packet handling in pdp (in case it is turned on) mfgadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] display lists - was: Re: lua scripting for pd objects
chris clepper wrote: I think someone did make an example of building a display list per gemhead and then calling the list for rendering in another. i guess you mean the one i mentioned earlier, which can be found in examples/09.openGL/ mfgas IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] yet another gem w32 binary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : i have finally managed to compile Gem on w32 with PBuffer (pix_vpaint) and libfidtrack (aka reactivision) support). That sounds cool for building a reactable, also may I ask if you manage to add libfprint? cannot remember hearing of this. anyhow, currently i would rather see a new Gem release than new features added. this is the first complete Gem-built for w32 in years. as i would like to issue a release asap, i ask all of you for testing of this binary. I could say right now that this binary is in need of two dll's: msvcp71d.dll, and msvcr71d.dll aren't they part of XP already? if not, i would suggest that they are to be downloaded from the wild internet... or: do you have msvcp71.dll and msvcr71.dll (without the d's) installed by default? (a release version of Gem sh/c.ould be made dependent on these) mgfadsör IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] yet another gem w32 binary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've removed the dll's from the system, and loaded this attached version, it's running fine, now I'm testing examples, from the last to cool the begining, oh an error: with examples/02.advanced/21.basic_LSystem.pd [gemlist]: you should not bang the gemlist now when I create gemwin, same error with doublehead example, 19.pointer, other examples are ok. i think i get this warning too. do the patches run fine apart from it, or do you get a never-ending flood of these warnings? (i think i get ~100 and then it stops - the patch works fine though) gfmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] new w32 binary!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Shall we try to switch the Gem build to MinGW? Then we'll have automated builds, and you'll be able to make Gem Windows binaries by cross-compiling on GNU/Linux. .hc if you feel up to it. i currently don't really want to spend time in getting code compile against DirectX with mingw. (for Gem you also have to compile parts of the DirectShow examples) i also would not like to have a stripped down version of Gem (without DirectX and QuickTime) compiled and widely distributed. and you would have to change your policy of importing code to repositories, as i don't think importing DirectX-SDK (some versions of which you can only download from a genuine windows machine (or however they call it)) and Quicktime-SDK (for which you currently need an apple user-account to download) would be a good idea. nevertheless it would be cool if you could include the new binary into the next pd-extended release. fgnasd IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PdExtended autobuild
Olivier Heinry wrote: hi, looks like the debian stable autobuild of last night didnt make it. it would be nice if you could also provide the information _why_ the autobuild did not succeed (as can be found in the autobuild-logs). btw, whenever an autobuild on the build-farm fails, there will be an automated email to the pd-cvs mailinglist, telling so (and appending a tail of the logfile to get an idea why it did fail) finally, it failed because of Gem's new recordQT4L code. i just realized that this new code (which is supposed to be more stable and reliable than the last one) depends on a new version of libquicktime1, which might not be available for debian/stable (but is in lenny; probably there are backports?) personally i would rather not revert to etch (who works with multimedia and can live with a debian/stable anyhow :-)?) i will the configure-script to prevent failing builds. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It could be, it's just a matter of someone writing the code :) well, it's almost done. within the next month or 2, i will hopefully have all patches ready, to make Pd fully double floating point enabled (that is: you have to chose at compile time; all externals have to be recompiled for this; and no, i have no plans to get a dual-precision (both 32bit and 64bit) support into Pd) what is more, just raising the precision won't necessarily boost the cleanness of the sound (btw, this is not the objective of my double Pd project); Pd could have better oscillators even with 32bit, by using better interpolation/extrapolation algorithms. mfga.dsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
Charles Henry wrote: Most Pd objects (externals) use t_sample to define what gets passed to input and output. At compilation time, the externals code includes m_pd.h, which defines t_sample as a float. Which makes sense on 32-bit processors--Pd for 64-bit processors could potentially redefine t_sample as a double, with no loss in performance (with nearly twice as much memory usage). that's the theory. in practice, even Pd-vanilla was using a wild mix of t_sample, t_float float as sample-type until 0.41 (when i submitted a number of patches to clean that up) i have a basically running version of Pd with 64bit double precision, basically only some oscillators have to be ported (osc~, phasor~,... use lowest level bitmanipulation in their core-routines) playing soundfiles works fine :-) fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
Martin Peach wrote: It would be interesting to try to build pd using doubles instead of floats, but it would necessitate changing the size of atoms... see my other post: this is basically done. on 64bit OS the size of atoms would stay the same (it's at least 64bit because of the pointers) fgadsmr, IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Saving Gem output as video file on MacOSX ?
Dudley Brooks wrote: I also found that pix_record not only gets the colors wrong, but seems to rotate the picture 90 degrees and reverse it as well. (The abstract nature of the piece is why that wasn't obvious immediately.) But how can it be that pix_record does this, and especially that people haven't noticed and complained? Or fixed, those who know how? (Not me, I'm afraid.) Incompatibility between how the various video cards label screen directions and RGB colors? in this i would suggest reporting the full version of Gem and where you obtained it from. i couldn't find anything about the version of Gem _you_ are actually using. rotating the picture by 90° is _very_ unusual. did you mean 180°? fmgadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: at least i am using kind-of regression tests in zexy and iemlib. this of course should read iemmatrix instead of iemlib sorry for the confusion. mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What we really need is regression testing, I think that would make it easier to convince Miller to accept patches, and would be a great tool for finding bugs. Matju started that project, any word on that Matju? No, I haven't done much progress. The problem with that thing is that no-one wants to do it, not even me. It's hard to consider it a priority as much as it should be. at least i am using kind-of regression tests in zexy and iemlib. the suite is rather simplistic, but works well for my purposes. see zexy/tests for how it works mgfasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] My project at IEM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one could be to use cal3D http://home.gna.org/cal3d/ I know Pablo Caedes made a 3dp object some time ago ... but there is nothing like this in GEM. well, several years ago i have written a cal3d object for Gem. it never made it into Gem though fmgas.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Seasons Greetings
Andy Farnell wrote: The time is almost upon us to to erase those brain cells collected over the last 12 months. But who will dare post first in the obligatory ASCII xmas tree thread? Mine's in Pd this year, we love it! mfa.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd filter with pole and zero
Charles Henry wrote: I remember there were many filter abstractions based on biquad~s. I thought they were in the iemabs directory, but I can't find them. there are abstractions in ggext that do this. fgmad.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd filter with pole and zero
cyrille henry wrote: hello Ioannes IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : Charles Henry wrote: I remember there were many filter abstractions based on biquad~s. I thought they were in the iemabs directory, but I can't find them. there are abstractions in ggext that do this. you mean ggee? yes there is only externals there. true (i checked now :-)) or did i miss something? i don't think so. it was my fault. but i guess most of ggee's filter externals can be rewritten as abstractions (i checked only [highshelf] and i haven't seen anything you cannot do with plain pd.) the only problems that might occur are about precision (as you can only use single precision in abstractions), but at least highshelf.c uses single precision too, so that should be ok. fgmasd.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] scroll bug
hi I just posted a bug report about this, but I am in an urgency of finding a quick workaround. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Please post a bug in the tracker. actually matteo just wanted to point out that he has already submitted a bug-report to the bug-tracker [1817858] i think he only wanted to raise the priority on a social level. however, if it is so important for him, he should have noticed that 45minutes after he had submitted the bug, i have already posted a possible solution. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended on gusty
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: perhaps Gem will need to be ported to libquicktime 1.0. i know you probably know that already: but Gem has just to be recompiled. i am using libquicktime-1.0 since about april (according to the changelog.Debian), i have never even noticed. debian/lenny just did a non-maintainer upload for the recompilation without any problems. i have just recently done a bit of a project with pdp, and i do not remember having any troubles in re-compiling it against the lqt-1.0. afaik, pidip does not depend at all on libquicktime. so no porting, just compiling. we shouldn't make things worse than they are. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iARS download?
Andrei Thomaz wrote: hello Iohannes, at sourceforge, I can download CUBEmixer and abcdef only. I couldn't find iARS there. However, I looked at the screenshots (at IEM site), and it seems very nice. you can download the sources from our subversion repository at sourceforge: the link for checking out is: https://iem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/iem/IAEM/trunk/iARS/ mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdplugin on a browser
Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thanks IOhannes So has anyone developed pd-plugin? it seems it only works on windows is there anyone else who developed other versions available of such plugin ? 1. yes, at least 2 parties have developped a pd-plugin (music technology group/barcelona; iem/graz); but i have already said so in my previous email. 2. on which grounds do you base your claim, that any of these plugins only work on windows? at least using the iARS plugin i have definitely done Gem-rendering within the browser window... 3. you do mean, another plugin or another version of the existing plugins? what are you looking for? which functionality is missing? mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iARS download?
Andrei Thomaz wrote: hello list, I looked at this page, and it looks amazing: http://iem.at/projekte/newmedia/vch_iaem/index_html/view But i couldn't find a link for downloading the iARS plugin. It seems link if I need to have an user account in the site, something I guess only the IEM students have. Am I right? no you are not right, as you don't need a user account to get the plugin. nevertheless, you are right that it is hard to find. the bets thing i can come up with right now is: the iARS plugin is open-source and can be found at http://sf.net/projects/iem ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdplugin on a browser
Miguel Cardoso wrote: Hello IOhannes i tried to use pd-plugin from barcelona music technology group. on macintel I wasn't able to install the plugin. so now it becomes interesting: you never mentioned that you are using a macintel platform. at least iARS (and i guess the same is true for the mtg plugin) has been developed before macintel became an interesting platform. i also think that both plugins have reached their final state before macintel became an interesting platform. furthermore they (again: at least iARS) are not actively maintained any more (that's the unfortunate nature of so many universitary projects...) nevertheless, i don't think that there are any reasons why shouldn't run (compile) on macintel. on pc i installed the plugin, but the test files they provide on i guess with pc you mean an intel/amd-equipped computer. is it running linux, os-x or linux? their website don't work. am i missing something? most likely this is an issue of their website. please contact their site-administrator. (but again: as it is likely to be not actively maintained any more, i wish you good luck here) also tried to find the iars plugin, but couldn't find it. not available? http://iem1.iaem.at/doku/iARS/ resuming... i need some help finding the files and documentation to try this out :) as written in my other mail, you can get the iARS plugin from iem's sourceforge project (and there really should be a link to the sources somewhere at the homepage; i'll investigate asap) the mtg plugin is certainly available as source-code too. so all you need is a compiler :-) like mostly, the documentation will be the source code and some (scientific) publications (hopefully available on the net) hope this helps mfg.asdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Getting (not pure) data over the internet
Martin Peach wrote: Umm, isn't the local port always 80 for http, and the remote and local no, who told you that? on most operating system you will need special privileges to open a local port below 1024. port numbers always identical for tcp? no, who told you that? only the remote (server) port is fixed. the client usually chooses any free port (in the high range). Anyway, [tcpclient] lets you do the important CRLF combo which [netclient] won't, and any http-compliant web server will not reply until it gets that. you can add CRLF with [netclient] as well, but it is far more complicated than with [tcpclient]. on the other side, it is more complicated to generate your query and interpret the response with [tcpclient] mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_draw flipped
David Powers wrote: On 3/21/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using python, but I am not an expert. I think GEM is faster for image operations, since it is hardwarebased or at least c code. and also I don't want to change my images at all, just display them correctly. the pix_info works great at the moment. I still will have a look at the possibilities with PIL. marius. I think (please step in Gem developers) that the hardware acceleration only applies to 3d and not pix operations, but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway true, but [pix_texture] is a 3d (that is: openGL) operation and therefore hardware acceleration applies. [pix_draw] is usually NOT done in hardware (at least on non SGI machines ;-)), that is why [pix_texture]+[rectangle] is recommended. mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM - too many open files-error with [pix_multiimage]
hi. orjo wrote: i am currently working on a gem-project that uses a lot of images. the images are loaded and switched with [pix_multiimage] - and i want to change the set of images a few times, so i load quite a lot of images into memory.. and quite soon - after having loaded a few sets - all together about 2 or 3 thousand pictures, the too many open files message occurs. is there some fix or workaround for gem on win32 yet ? my project is nearly done - so this is the only (and a quite serious) problem i got. would need something like a really fast fix or workaround ;) which version of Gem are you using (exactly(!))? i think this has been fixed in CVS a while ago, so you probably should try one of the experimental CVS builds for windows. mfgas.dr IOhannes PS: your mail made it to the list just fine... what exactly were your problems? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM - too many open files-error with [pix_multiimage]
orjo wrote: hi i am using version 0.91-cvs with winXP.. this was the newest version for win, that i could find.. but here the bug still appears.. hmm, that is bad. could you please post a bug-report at http://sf.net/projects/pd-gem describing your problem (so that it won't be forgotten) i will have a look at it asap, but i am not sure how fast we will have a windows-binary (ieven if it gets fixed today). so for know, is it possible to use [pix_film]/[pix_movie] as suggested by Max? mfg,.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text3d / textoutline
Romain Vuillet wrote: Hi, Yes sorry for my first mail , actually the problem is that Gem is compiled without FONT-support ! I use pd 0.40-2 on Fedora Core 6 and the CVS version of GEM. But, i can'tt find how to active font-support when i compile GEM. Is there a flag for the ./configure ? just adding to georg's and cyrille's comments: you could also use gltt if ftgl is not available (though i discourage it). Gem's configure will (well: should) automatically detect which of these libs is present and use it. mfg.adsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: g
hi. i don't see any problems for connecting a lemur to pd via OSC. however, i strongly suspect that this email should rather go to the pd-list than to me privately (i am not an expert with lemur). mfg.adr IOhannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I was wondering if there are any available methods to use a Lemur over OSC (with PD). I've ironed out how to use netsend and netreceive but dont know if theres an object i should use comparable with r for Max/msp to pinpoint which lemur objects give off which integers. Maybe using the Linux PD is preferable. If you've any suggestions, they'd be much appreciated thnks *Check out the new AOL* http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] convert pd patches to Max patches
Stefano Papetti wrote: Ciao, is there a fast way to convert a pd patch to a Max one? apart from browsing the archives at http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/ (note that i am ignorant of any moratoria that might be around), you could also try to: 1) save the max-patch as text (with .pat ending) and open it in pd 2) use cyclone (i don't know much about that, but this has definitely been discussed several times on this list) mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
