Re: [PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE

2014-05-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-05-11 19:47, Martin Peach wrote: I removed the requirement for 5.1 in the makkefile, this was in January of this year. i think the OP is referring to Pd-extended 0.43.4 - Released 2013-01-25 and while january matches, the year is off

Re: [PD] best format for send/receive between iOS and libPD

2014-05-12 Thread i go bananas
thanks Miller and Rich for the help. We thought at first that it might be better to package all our pattern data together, but after reading what you guys have written, i can see that individual values should be the best way to go. We do have some arrays though, so that PdBase copyArray* will

[PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE

2014-05-11 Thread Andrew Faraday
Hi All I've been trying to install pd-extended on OpenSUSE but whatever I do `make install` fails. It looks like it's trying to find pdlua_stack_dump but it's not defined... you can see the tail end of my make process here: https://gist.github.com/AJFaraday/2ee07be60ac7af5f7a6c If anyone

Re: [PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Peach
On 2014-05-11 12:45, Andrew Faraday wrote: Hi All I've been trying to install pd-extended on OpenSUSE but whatever I do `make install` fails. It looks like it's trying to find pdlua_stack_dump but it's not defined... The latest code should compile for Lua5.2 as well as 5.1, do you have this

Re: [PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE

2014-05-11 Thread Andrew Faraday
I was under the impression that I had the latest code, I built it using Pd-extended_0.43.4-source.tar.bz2 line 152 is: LUACFLAGS += -I/usr/include/lua5.1 Also dependencies seem very sparsely documented, could I be missing one? Andrew F Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 13:13:09 -0400 From:

Re: [PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Peach
I removed the requirement for 5.1 in the makkefile, this was in January of this year. I don't know when the pd-extended externals source was last updated from svn, maybe it needs refreshing. From the diff: - LUACFLAGS += -I/usr/include/lua5.1 # lua is named differently on every platform,

[PD] From code poetry to interpretive PD poetry reading

2014-05-10 Thread Pall Thayer
Hi All, For a while now, I've been writing short perl scripts as works of art. Somehow, this practice of mine has become associated with poetry, which was never my intention at all. Here's a new direction I'm experimenting with, interpretive poetry reading via PD... (requires the ratts external:

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-10 Thread plutek infinity
thanks to all for your responses... very helpful! i've implemented a solution based on lorenzo's suggestion, and it works just fine! one further question: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way to get the slider's send to

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-10 Thread Max
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 05? 10? 23:56, plutek infinity wrote: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way to get the slider's send to float out of view (other than just sticking it under the

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-10 Thread plutek infinity
thanks, max! right, so it looks like this needs to be the summer of pd tutorials! :) cheers! .pltk. On 2014-05-10 11:40, Max wrote: On 2014? 05? 10? 23:56, plutek infinity wrote: since my slider is in a gui panel for the patch, with all the other code buried in subpatches, is there a way

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-10 Thread plutek infinity
...which makes me wonder: besides all the various tutorials, is there a comprehensive online course about pd that one can work through? cheers! .pltk. On 2014-05-10 11:58, plutek infinity wrote: thanks, max! right, so it looks like this needs to be the summer of pd tutorials! :) cheers!

Re: [PD] best format for send/receive between iOS and libPD

2014-05-10 Thread Rich E
I'd second what Miller said, for a different reason though: every time you send a message from your app's main thread (the iOS / obj-c bits) into pd (the libpd bits), a mutex will lock because the audio thread runs on a different thread and needs to be synchronized. Breaking the lists down (not

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I took a stab at it. The main item here is the [set $1( message.  That allows you to update the display/state of the slider without outputting a value. The [trigger a a] isn't needed for the patch to run correctly, but it makes it easier to see the connection that feeds back up the chain.

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, you could use a set $1-message to only set the slider's display value without letting it propagate the new value to its outlet. Ciao -- Frank On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 01:24:34AM -0400, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-09 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi, On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-09 Thread i go bananas
you can also use [change] in the chain to make sure messages are not resent when they are the same On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem

Re: [PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-09 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 09/05/2014 07:24, plutek infinity wrote: [...] i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement [...] the problem is, of course, that if i connect the expr

Re: [PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
and it took me quite some time to figure it out :) 2014-05-06 10:55 GMT-03:00 Oli Larkin olilar...@googlemail.com: thanks everyone ... Alexandre that is just what i was looking for On 6 May 2014, at 06:09, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I did one and shared on the list you can check

[PD] more sprites!

2014-05-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi list,     Here's another data structure sprite example: http://www.jonathanwilkes.net/sprite.webm I changed the object name and interface a little bit-- now sprites can have affine transformations.  It's neat to use the transform method to see how few objects it takes to animate the sprite

[PD] recursive controls problem

2014-05-08 Thread plutek infinity
greetings! i'm sure this is a simple problem, but i can't seem to come up with the solution... i'm trying to control one numerical value in a few ways: 1. have a bang to set an initial value 2. have a slider for mouse control 3. use keyboard keys to increment and decrement the attached

Re: [PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-06 Thread Oli Larkin
thanks everyone ... Alexandre that is just what i was looking for On 6 May 2014, at 06:09, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I did one and shared on the list you can check it at:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AoiT0xk8fnNU9PRHdldVVFbU0/edit?usp=sharing 2014-05-05 16:41 GMT-03:00

[PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-05 Thread Oli Larkin
hi, is anyone aware of an example of both a brute force time domain (e.g. buffir~ in Max) and an FFT-based fast convolution patch in pd-vanilla? I would like to do a comparison of the two. Can be using a small IR, just for demo purposes. cheers, Oli

Re: [PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-05 Thread david medine
For the FFT based convolution, you could easily modify the example patch I06.timbre.stamp.pd to do straight up convolution in the frequency domain. I wouldn't know how to do it in the time domain without an extern or a lot of painstaking work. It might be a nice thing to have, though. I can

Re: [PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-05 Thread katja
Brute force time domain convolution for small kernel can be done with [fexpr~]. For zero phase filter kernels, fast convolution in Pd is relatively simple. Multiply real and imaginary part of the signal's spectrum with the filter's spectrum while using four times overlap and Hann windowing before

Re: [PD] analog PD+GEM

2014-05-05 Thread Ed Kelly
Jeenyoos! BTW I went to a modular synth meetup the other day. Hoxtonowl were demoing a eurorack module that runs Pd. They already have an effects pedal that uses it:  http://hoxtonowl.com/2014/04/owl-puredata-alphatesters-wanted/   Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune

Re: [PD] convolution using pd-vanilla

2014-05-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I did one and shared on the list you can check it at: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AoiT0xk8fnNU9PRHdldVVFbU0/edit?usp=sharing 2014-05-05 16:41 GMT-03:00 katja katjavet...@gmail.com: Brute force time domain convolution for small kernel can be done with [fexpr~]. For zero phase filter

[PD] comparing symbols in external

2014-05-03 Thread Jaime E Oliver
Hi all, I am trying to compare two symbols, one incoming in a list into an external and the other one stored internally in the external. It compiles fine, but I don't get a match. c code is below. Ideas on what I'm missing? J void testtext_input(t_testtext *x, t_symbol *selector, int

Re: [PD] comparing symbols in external

2014-05-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Strange things like this can happen if someone inadvertently writes a new string into an existing symbol... i.e., never do this: strcat(sym-s_name, cat). MAybe there was already a symbol somewhere else whose name is cat and then you'll have 2 symbols with teh same name but different addresses.

Re: [PD] comparing symbols in external

2014-05-03 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 05/03/2014 09:22 AM, Jaime E Oliver wrote: Hi all, I am trying to compare two symbols, one incoming in a list into an external and the other one stored internally in the external. It compiles fine, but I don't get a match. c code is below. Ideas on what I'm missing the whole idea

Re: [PD] comparing symbols in external

2014-05-03 Thread Jaime E Oliver
Thanks to both, it makes sense and it works now. J On May 3, 2014, at 4:42 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 05/03/2014 09:22 AM, Jaime E Oliver wrote: Hi all, I am trying to compare two symbols, one incoming in a list into an external and the other one stored internally

Re: [PD] best format for send/receive between iOS and libPD

2014-05-03 Thread Billy Stiltner
:) On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi Matt - From Pd's perspective at least, it would be more efficient to handle the messages separately (some of Pd's list operations have to copy the list, which would be expensive if done iteratively over a long

Re: [PD] MobMuPlat - data from several iPads to one PC

2014-05-03 Thread Christian Fischer
Thanks Dan! It worked so far with the help patch! Now I have just to see how it’s going with several iPads… Thanks again! chris Am 03.05.2014 um 01:30 schrieb Daniel Iglesia daniel.igle...@gmail.com: (And for multiple devices into a pd patch, I usually have the user of each device manually

[PD] puredata.info down

2014-05-02 Thread Richie Cyngler
Just wanted to report the site is down. Been that way for at least a few hours judging by the forum. -- Richie www.glitchpop.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI

2014-05-02 Thread András Murányi
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: In Pd-l2ork you can also do this: [print( | [pdinfo] Which prints all the info for the running Pd instance to the console, including devices. Or you can send it a message to get a specific attribute like

Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI

2014-05-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-09 16:45, Antoine Villeret wrote: Shouldn't `[mediasettings/midisettings]` update it's own device lists on `[listdevices(` message ? please file a feature-request (and assign it to me, if possible) fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP

[PD] gridflow pd-extended ubuntu 14.04

2014-05-02 Thread u...@xdv.org
hello, i have dedicated some time to updating my system, ending up with ubuntu 14.04 doing the occasional patching now. everything pd related went relatively painless, just had to rebuild Gem, but gridflow's stuck and won't move a bit and i have no clue. i have gridflow in it's own builddir:

Re: [PD] puredata.info down

2014-05-02 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 05/02/2014 07:03 AM, Richie Cyngler wrote: Just wanted to report the site is down. Been that way for at least a few hours judging by the forum. there was a power-outage that drained our UPS and blew the fuses. all should be up and running again. gfmsard IOhannes signature.asc

[PD] [PD-announce] Muditulib: first test release

2014-05-02 Thread Funs Seelen
Hello all, For those who would like to try my new tuning library before it is released: the first test release of Muditulib is now available on sourceforge. Algorithms to translate less into more dimensions are not included yet. However, the tuning and pitch systems should be working. A reference

Re: [PD] gridflow pd-extended ubuntu 14.04

2014-05-02 Thread Colet Patrice
Le 02/05/2014 15:19, u...@xdv.org a écrit : hello, i have dedicated some time to updating my system, ending up with ubuntu 14.04 doing the occasional patching now. everything pd related went relatively painless, just had to rebuild Gem, but gridflow's stuck and won't move a bit and i have no

[PD] A list of live electroacoustic ensembles

2014-05-02 Thread eldad tsabary
Hello all, If you're in a live electronics ensemble or know of such an ensemble that is not on this list http://bit.ly/1pyfyVJ, it'd be super nice if you could add it here (in the additions tab). The list includes electroacoustic ensembles and mixed ensembles that have a substantial live,

Re: [PD] gridflow pd-extended ubuntu 14.04

2014-05-02 Thread u...@xdv.org
On 02.05.2014 16:21, Colet Patrice wrote: Le 02/05/2014 15:19, u...@xdv.org a écrit : hello, i have dedicated some time to updating my system, ending up with ubuntu 14.04 doing the occasional patching now. everything pd related went relatively painless, just had to rebuild Gem, but

Re: [PD] [Patching Circle] Generative Musical Apps this Friday!

2014-05-02 Thread Epic Jefferson
Awesome! what time? 6:30pm? On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:29 PM, sonia yuditskaya marysgh...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Epic, the next patching circle will be on May 22 at ITP/NYU, 721 Broadway, 4th floor. Cheers! Sofy Yuditskaya s~ http://yuditskaya.com On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Epic

[PD] MobMuPlat - data from several iPads to one PC

2014-05-02 Thread Christian Fischer
Hi there, not sure whether I can make out the forest for the trees after x hours of fiddling… What would be the best way to send data (one way) from several iPads to one master patch on PC, connected adhoc wireless? So far I tried only with one iPad, used MobMuPlat and simple ‚netsend' /

Re: [PD] MobMuPlat - data from several iPads to one PC

2014-05-02 Thread Daniel Iglesia
Hi Mobmuplat handles networking at the app layer, not the pd patch layer. Take a look at the tutorial patch MMPTutorial4-Networking.pd which has both LANdini and non-LANdini (UDP multicast) examples of sending/receiving. In all cases, OSC messages come from/go to [receive fromNetwork] and [send

Re: [PD] MobMuPlat - data from several iPads to one PC

2014-05-02 Thread Daniel Iglesia
(And for multiple devices into a pd patch, I usually have the user of each device manually input a number identifying their identity, and then filter/route based on this in the PC patch) (If you choose to use LANdini, you'll want to get the standalone client (OSX only, or supercollider code)

Re: [PD] read from same array with multiple [tabread4~]'s

2014-05-01 Thread James Dunn
Yes, it's a problem with my patch! Thanks Quoth Miller Puckette, on 30/04/2014 15:31: There aren't any interactions between tabread4~ (etc.) objects reading from the same table - I do it all the time - for example, the silly example in 3.audio.examples/D13.addtive.qlst.pd cheers Miller On

Re: [PD] best format for send/receive between iOS and libPD

2014-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Matt - From Pd's perspective at least, it would be more efficient to handle the messages separately (some of Pd's list operations have to copy the list, which would be expensive if done iteratively over a long list). cheers Miller On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 01:37:05PM +0900, i go bananas wrote:

[PD] read from same array with multiple [tabread4~]'s

2014-04-30 Thread James Dunn
Hi, I'm trying to playback a sound file from the same array using multiple [tabread4~] objects but I'm getting nasty clicks presumably because they are having accessing the same array at the same time. Is there another approach to this or some other way of avoiding the clicks? thanks James

Re: [PD] read from same array with multiple [tabread4~]'s

2014-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
There aren't any interactions between tabread4~ (etc.) objects reading from the same table - I do it all the time - for example, the silly example in 3.audio.examples/D13.addtive.qlst.pd cheers Miller On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 02:06:46PM +0100, James Dunn wrote: Hi, I'm trying to playback a

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-30 Thread katja
Hi Simon, Maybe it's just me but I did not find an attachment with your last post. By the way I found a bug in my upsampling method: apparently, [samplerate~] in a resampled subpatch needs some time before it reports the correct samplerate, therefore the subpatch used wrong values for filter

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-30 Thread Simon Iten
katja, you can see the error as an amplitude fluctuation in the array (i think thats the error) it gets more and more dominant with higher frequencies and at some point you hear a deep note, which seems to be the amplitude modulation coming into the hearable range. or am i wrong? i also could

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 04/29/2014 10:44 PM, Jaime E Oliver wrote: I guess one of the nicest things about what you're showing is to do manipulations ala PWGL or open music. I'm interested in being able to make arbitrarily complex and long scores, and be able to export these as lilypond scores that can be edited

[PD] CFP: Practice-Based Research in New Interfaces for Musical Expression

2014-04-30 Thread Sam Ferguson
= Call for Papers Workshop on Practice-Based Research in New Interfaces for Musical Expression NIME 2014 Workshop: Goldsmiths, London, UK www.nime2014.org Workshop website: http://www.creativityandcognition.com/NIMEWorkshop/ Submission

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread simon
nice changes with expr~ ! but i think you missed the point of the beginning of the patch. read in my first e-mail for an explanation of what this patch does exactly. it is an gr300 analog guitar synthesizer clone (well one voice of it). it is intended for real-life signals so there needs to be

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, So your method counts samples per (zero-crossing) cycle, is what I learned from studying the patch. Very nice how you do this with tilde objects. It seems possible to get equivalent result with only one [rpole~], when using the positive pulse as trigger for [samphold~] and with two

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
Katja thanks for your Inputs! Will Look at the Patch tonight. Simple lowpass Filtering? I tried to upsample with a Block object but the biquad object stopped outputting Pulses. If you don't mind doing a Version with upsampling that would be fantastic. Well i just copied from the Gr300

[PD] ALSA broken pipe on pd-extended on Beaglebone?

2014-04-29 Thread David Welch
Hi all, I am currently working on an embedded device made up of some hardware, Arduino, Beaglebone running Debian white with audio cape. I am attaching a pd file that works on a laptop. For the beaglebone, basically I change the serial port argument to 4 for [comport] but get a Broken Pipe error

Re: [PD] ALSA broken pipe on pd-extended on Beaglebone?

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
Alsa is only supposed to work with One application at a Time. Am 29.04.2014 um 17:15 schrieb David Welch nicederangem...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am currently working on an embedded device made up of some hardware, Arduino, Beaglebone running Debian white with audio cape. I am attaching a pd

Re: [PD] ALSA broken pipe on pd-extended on Beaglebone?

2014-04-29 Thread David Welch
I am only using it with one app with is pd-extended. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: Alsa is only supposed to work with One application at a Time. Am 29.04.2014 um 17:15 schrieb David Welch nicederangem...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am currently working

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-29 Thread tim vets
INScore works great for me http://inscore.sourceforge.net/ Tim 2014-04-29 5:21 GMT+02:00 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 04? 29? 09:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think somebody had one using Gem and dynamic patching. that someone is

Re: [PD] ALSA broken pipe on pd-extended on Beaglebone?

2014-04-29 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi, more precisely, The number of simultaneous audio streams (called an application in your message) depends on the soundcard hardware mixer and the driver. In the case of the BeagleBone, this probably sums as 1 hardware mixer == 1 application at a time. Cheers, Charles Simon Iten wrote:

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 04/28/2014 11:21 PM, Max wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 04? 29? 09:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think somebody had one using Gem and dynamic patching. that someone is Ed Kelly

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, See attachment for an upsampled version. I used a 6th order lo pass filter with cut off at 1/4 of the original sampling rate. This seems to work with max. 8 times upsampling. Period length error is then limited to 1/8 sample. You mentioned adaptive filtering of a real life input

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
katja, exactly! i filter the input based on the output of the pitch detection. i used this for quite some time with my doublebass (but with a pickup per string) and it works perfectly. i get no octave jumps or glitches at all. the version i shared here is planned to be used for vocals, i have

Re: [PD] ALSA broken pipe on pd-extended on Beaglebone?

2014-04-29 Thread David Welch
Well, the follow up to this is that I was able to resolve the problem by installing pure data (Vanilla), pd-cyclone, pd-comport with apt-get. Added /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone to the search path (-lib cyclone didn't work for some reason). And it works! I wonder if that means there's something wrong

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread katja
Hi Simon, I'd be curious to see this adaptive filtering work in practice. Could you share a patch, once you have that working? Vocals mostly don't exceed a 3 octave range either. Only thing is, in vocals the strongest component is sometimes not the first harmonic but the second, when speaking or

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Phil Stone
That is certainly true with bass (electric or upright) as well. (I'm watching this discussion with fascination!) Phil On 4/29/14, 12:10 PM, katja wrote: Hi Simon, I'd be curious to see this adaptive filtering work in practice. Could you share a patch, once you have that working? Vocals

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-29 Thread Jaime E Oliver
Hi Jonathan, This is excellent work! I wonder in what direction are you taking this… best, J On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 04/28/2014 11:21 PM, Max wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 04? 29? 09:07, Jonathan Wilkes

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-29 Thread Simon Iten
hi katja, i tried your patch and had a look at it. it’s beautifully programmed :-) so skilled. thanks for taking the time and it’s very interesting to see a different style and different thinking to get to the “same” outcome. i tried (with a different version of the patch) just to replace osc~

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 04/29/2014 05:28 PM, Jaime E Oliver wrote: Hi Jonathan, This is excellent work! I wonder in what direction are you taking this… As far as notation inside Pd patches-- just the demo. But I do remember Ed saying he'd initially investigated using data structures for his project. If

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-29 Thread Jaime E Oliver
I guess one of the nicest things about what you're showing is to do manipulations ala PWGL or open music. I'm interested in being able to make arbitrarily complex and long scores, and be able to export these as lilypond scores that can be edited and printed for someone else to play… best, J

[PD] best format for send/receive between iOS and libPD

2014-04-29 Thread i go bananas
I've got a six voice synth, each with about 20 variable parameters, and then sequence data, etc... and all of this data is being stored by the objective C front-end of my app. can someone tell me, hopefully from experience, what the best format is to send a lot of pattern data between obj C and

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
That works very well. Good job and thanks for sharing! One minor thing jumped to my eye: Your patch uses some instances of [fexpr~] and all of them actually don't need [fexpr~] functionality. I experienced that [fexpr~] is quite expensive, which seems apparent considering it is designed for

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Simon Iten
roman, thanks for your inputs. i tried both fexpr and expr and sticked to fexpr at some point, don’t know why though. will change it back! (i remember reading that fexpr was more expensive but also more precise) to make the whole thing work with real world signals (bass guitar in my case)

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-28 Thread Ingo
Sounds great! I'll have to get the sensors first now (I was waiting to see if it would work at all) and see how far I'll get with it. Thanks Ingo Von: Ivica Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. April 2014 23:27 An: Ingo Cc: Alexandros

[PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-28 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Is there a working music notator in PD? pp Patrick Pagano, B.S, M.F.A Assistant in Digital Arts and Science Digital Media Projection and Audio Design Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2070 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I have no idea what the patch is doing either, but I was able to clean it a lot. many things that didn't need to be there cheers 2014-04-28 3:52 GMT-03:00 Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com: roman, thanks for your inputs. i tried both fexpr and expr and sticked to fexpr at some point, don’t

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I think somebody had one using Gem and dynamic patching. I've got a demo using svg-style drawing instructions in Pd-l2ork.  I'm almost finished working on nested svg groups-- at that point one should be able to output a page of Lilypond notation to svg and write an importer to convert to a Pd

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-28 Thread Jaime E Oliver
I've been using this external of mine which is certainly ongoing work for converting pitch-duration pairs into Lilypond Scores. Here is the c code and an os x binary: http://www.jaimeoliver.pe/archives/2827 Pitch is expressed in midi and duration in multiples of a smaller unit of reference.

Re: [PD] Music notation in pure data

2014-04-28 Thread Max
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014? 04? 29? 09:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think somebody had one using Gem and dynamic patching. that someone is Ed Kelly http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Conference/Gemnotes:_A_Realtime_music_notation_system_for_pure_data

Re: [PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-28 Thread Simon Iten
Well i know exactly what the Patch does... I just dont know why the two numbers before the Addition Need to be -1 And -2 :-) Will Look at your Version asap. Cheers Am 29.04.2014 um 02:00 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com: I have no idea what the patch is doing either, but I

[PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
dear list, i have a strange problem with my “sinetosawtooth” patch. it is basically a version of the pitch to voltage conversion used in the old gr300 guitar synths from roland. i cut out all the clutter to make it easier to look at and understand. (cut out the adaptive filtering at the input

Re: [PD] UDOO Quad and Generic Guitar to USB link issues

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
do you use the hardware or the plugin tab in the pd preferences? i found that i had to use the plugin and not the hardware to get results without distortion. also you should use debian hard float image and not linaro, it works better with puredata. and, i would not use jack but alsa directly

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Miller Puckette
That is an excellent, witty way to measure pulse withs using only tilde obects - my hat's off to you. The methond only has limited accuracy since its measurement is in samples. For instance, a 1/2 cycle of a 440-hz. tone at 44.1 kHz is only 50 samples, so there's only 2% accuracy. That's about

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry for the double answer, but this also occurs to me: To improve accuracy, measure both halves of the cycle and add them. To improve further, upsample the whole mess, say by a factor of 16. Doint both of those would improve the theoretical resolution by a factor of 32. (Of course, you still

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
so if i would measure at the peak of the sawtooth and would upsample inside the pd patch, i would get higher resolution, right? any ideas how i can measure at the peak? (using the rpole output on both samphold inputs does not work and delaying one of them is also not working) which i would

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
crosspost! sorry about the noise. thanks for the inputs i will try to to this. not sure if i can. otherwise i will ask back if that’s ok! On 27 Apr 2014, at 13:03, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: so if i would measure at the peak of the sawtooth and would upsample inside the pd patch, i

[PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ingo
I have been using an arduino with [comport] (pduino) to read out sensors so far and want to use a I2C sensor board for some other sensors soon. Can [comport] connect to the I2C interface or is there another object in Pd-extended that can do that? Thanks! Ingo

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
ok tried to upsample the whole thing (after the osc~) and now change~ does nothing anymore… it just spits out the same square wave i feed in…clues? On 27 Apr 2014, at 13:05, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: crosspost! sorry about the noise. thanks for the inputs i will try to to this.

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Actually I don't know where the change~ object is from - I've nver seen t before. I would just use biquad~ 0 0 1 -1 0 (assuming that change~ simply ubtracts the previous sample from teh current one as I guessed from the patch :) M On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 03:40:01PM +0200, Simon Iten wrote: ok

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
What if you use the Wire library in Arduino and then collect the info in Pd with [comport]? On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Ingo i...@miamiwave.com wrote: I have been using an arduino with [comport] (pduino) to read out sensors so far and want to use a I2C sensor board for some other sensors

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ingo
Thanks! Could be a possibility but I was hoping for an object that would be able to read I2C directly without adding an arduino since most smaller arm boards do have some I2C pins onboard. Ingo Von: Alexandros Drymonitis [mailto:adr...@gmail.com]

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I forget what i2c uses driverwise, but if it is spidev, in pd-l2ork you have disis_spi external that allows for reading data from mcp3008 8-channel ad converter. The external is specifically designed for Raspberry Pi build of pd-l2ork, but I don't see a reason why it could not be compiled for

Re: [PD] pitch to voltage

2014-04-27 Thread Simon Iten
sorry this one went off-list :-) On 27 Apr 2014, at 19:05, simon itensi...@gmail.com wrote: sure, here is the version with biquad in a subpatch with a block opject to upsample. probably i'm doing something wrong, i just copied from the block help-patch. sinetosawtoothupsample.pd

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ingo
Thanks Ivica, I'll check out pd-l2ork. I might use a Raspberry Pi for that purpose anyway. I need some capacitive sensors that work without actually touching them. All I found was using I2C. Ingo Von: Ivica Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] Gesendet:

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Martin Peach
On 2014-04-27 13:52, Ingo wrote: Thanks! Could be a possibility but I was hoping for an object that would be able to read I2C directly without adding an arduino since most smaller arm boards do have some I2C pins onboard. If the machine Pd is running on has an I2C port and is running linux

Re: [PD] How to read I2C sensors?

2014-04-27 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Check out also pd-l2ork k12 documentation where you can learn more about lots of pots RPi shield that gives you essentially 8 capacitive channels via the aforesaid mcp3008 d/a chip. This is what pd-l2ork essentially supports out of box. To access k12 mode start it with appropriate shortcut or

[PD] SOLVED!!! Re: pitch to voltage SOLVED!!!

2014-04-27 Thread simon
hey miller and list, find attached a version that works beautifully. it's a dirty hack without upsampling but it works extremly well. don't ask me why, i have no idea. thanks for all the help miller, really appreciate it! and thanks for pd in general :-) cheers, simon sinetosawtooth.pd

[PD] anything pd related happening in NYC from May 19-27?

2014-04-27 Thread Epic Jefferson
or unrelated? electronic music shows, analog or digital. let's hang out and stuff. Will there be a patching circle in May? -- www.epicjefferson.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] [Patching Circle] Generative Musical Apps this Friday!

2014-04-27 Thread sonia yuditskaya
Hi Epic, the next patching circle will be on May 22 at ITP/NYU, 721 Broadway, 4th floor. Cheers! Sofy Yuditskaya s~ http://yuditskaya.com On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Epic Jefferson jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Sofy, I'll be in NY from May 19-27. When is the patching circle?

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