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> but i don't really like that.
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> I'm trying to figure out if there is an object to read table indices with
> linear interpolation? Other than linear_path (Gem).
>
> Or perhaps there is a simpler way of doing it?
I made one as an abstraction some time ago, it's at
Hi Mario,
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> Your router.pd is the one I was looking for for the router
> connection. Because I had done a dozens-of-wires connection... a
> mess. I use that technics, now, it is beautifull. Thank you.
Great to hear!
> Is it better to ha
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:09:53AM +0100, Ed Kelly wrote:
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>
> >if you can I would prefer to patch with direct connections as it may make
> >things clearer. Attach is a little sketch (router.pd) which uses no
> >signal-sends and -receives at all, so you can be sure to have no delays
> >introduce
off).
> Maybe, if I need to sort only in one way, I should sort following
> these example.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> PD: I have to say that I'm having a good latency using this patch,
> but maybe it could be better, only sorting in the right way. In
> other words, I&
ead of subpatches you can use abstraction, but you have to connect these
just as you have connected the subpatches.
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Block delays with non-local connections will only happen if you don't do order
forcing. But if you are careful, you will have zero delay.
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> Is in PD a similar easyly way to scale values?
You can use an abstraction like m_scale.pd from the ri-library (attached) for
this.
Or just divide by 127 and multiply with 500. :)
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Descripti
file] inside.
All this is not dependent on the operating system, so it will work on OS-X,
Linux, iOS, Android, etc.
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I didn't test current Pd versions nor your fork, but up to 0.43 GUI
objects in subpatches or abstractions were a substantial and significant
CPU load when they are activated, even when invisible. So this is slow:
[r data]
|
[hsl ...]
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[s data-out]
But this is fast:
[r data]
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| [h
[print] these receivers to debug if no data is received.
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ion system. By using a different block size in the subpatch
and bigger tables, you can also extend this to bigger preset list sizes. And it
still is very fast - much faster than if you would use a message based approach
which involves list unpacking and so on.
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med [u_sssad]. There are some additional goodies, but
basically that's it.
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two running side by side?
I would suggest you make some kind of wrapper. You can remote-control all rj
parameters via sends and receives, so it's probably not necessary to change the
rj state management itself.
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ll no polygate~: You get nocrossfades and of course no [inlet~]s.
I'd just just patch a [dekagate~] abstraction with 10 fixed inputs and proper
fading for Pd vanilla. It's useful to have anyway and you only do it once.
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manually.
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So [makefilename %d-tab] is doing something different. You should not use
m_symbolarray to replace it. Only use a symbolic array, where you need it.
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> >
> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:26:17AM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >> How many table names total were there in the patch that wa
ieve me, just do some benchmarks on your own and compare
array access with list filtering.
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above, and please do so, if you don't run into problems.
But if a) the number of names (i.e. the list length) gets large or b) you have
to activate this idiom many, many times, you can hit a wall. And it's quite
easy to make a) and b) with sample players if you play polyphon
rs to table-names in a generic sample
player.
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> The "seq" object is part of Krzysztof Czaja's "cyclone" library which I
> found rather easy to compile last time I tried (on a linux system; not
> sure what will happen in IOS). I don't think there are any third-party
> library dep
to
load it, use "-path" instead.
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not a clock.
If you want to quit Pd at a certain time, [date] from the zexy library is fine,
or you can use your operating system's scheduling mechanisms to start a little
script to quit Pd gracefully via "pdsend" and a [netreceive] in your patch.
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Hi,
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 05:29:49PM +0200, tim vets wrote:
> don't know if it matters if the tgl isn't visible,
> but i guess you could also use:
> [i ]X[== 0]
That would be *much* faster than using the [tgl]. You can squeeze a
little bit more performance out of it if you use [f ] instead of [i
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:29:10PM -0400, Billy Stiltner wrote:
> so there are 3 builti ways to do some sort of patch storage - msgbox,
> table, and txtfile.
4) "data structures" i.e. the [struct] object and relatives.
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> > Hi folks
> >
> > I may be wrong here: is mtl meant to replace pdmtl?
> >
> > If that's the case, am I crazy or is
st an atom-thin wrapper around [packel
$1], so you could use that instead. If you want to avoid externals, you could
build something with two [list split] objects or message boxes with "set,
adddollar". For negative indices, just substract the index from [list length]
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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:36:46AM +0200, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
> Here are the mac bins from august 2011
Wonderful, thanks a lot!
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could make them available?
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a settable route with [select], check out the sroute.pd example in the
[list]-abs collection.
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rs-set.pd
Description: application/puredata
r-set.pd
Description: application/puredata
s-set.pd
Description:
base future preset handling on the [sssad] abstraction. It's
also usually not shipped by the Pd-extended maintainer (maybe it is in the
latest version, I didn't check), but because it's a single Pd vanilla
abstraction, it is very easy to use just everywhere.
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go, in 2006:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1556206&group_id=55736&atid=478070
It happens, if the slider's range is not divisible by its pixel size. A 100px
slider
0...100 is fine, a 100px slider 0 ... 127 is not.
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 02:46:12PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Thanks. On that page it says:
> Thanks to Frank Barknecht and others, RTC-lib is available for Pd (Pure
> Data). Download from khz96.org. Frank? Should I sent the revisions to you to
> commit?
Yeah, I ported RTC to
has already happened: list-len.pd was counting
the output of [list-drip] before [list length] was introduced, which is now the
sole object inside of list-len.pd
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> Le 2012-03-27 à 17:37:00, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
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> >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:04:37AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >>>From: Mathieu Bouchard
> >>>(Of course, there are externals, bu
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:21:15AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> list-abs was designed to only use pd's builtins, no externs, which
> makes it more like academic exercises of proving that anything can
> be done with a Turing tape machine, rather than being designed in a
> pragmatic way.
Actual
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:04:37AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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> > (Of course, there are externals, but they're not the kind of thing used by
> > the kind of people who come up with list-abs.)
>
> I don't know what that means. What does that mean?
Matju is teasing
ox. Miller's help-files are crammed full with message boxes used
as patch storage. Patch-level storga it nice for toplevel patches, but often
not really useful in abstractions, when each abstraction instance needs a
different state, although they all share the same patch file.
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lsen's version for a while now. It's much improved
and easier to get running on Pd installations including vanilla-based ones
because it avoids relying on the Pd-extended path layout where unneccessary.
Hans forgot to mention where to get it:
https://github.com/reduzent/pduino
C
ical
operations
repeat again and again in almost the same way. It's like the [f ]x[+ 1]
counter: At first it's
hard to understand, but later you'll just do it without thinking.
Attached is a working sort patch.
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:39:51AM +, Andy Farnell wrote:
> Yes of course. Once you can sort items of any type you can sort
> aggregate items, structs, sublists or whatever on one of their
> elements. Its a little messy in Pd. The best way might be to
> use pointers and try to do the cla
e it should be possible to correct the timing issues of the offset
inlet
with some additional calculations involving [timer] and [bang~] that take
into account that this inlet is only updated at block boundaries. It's probably
a bit
tricky to get right, but I suppose it could work.
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has been changed in the newest release to not allow list-messages containing
OSC-messages as first item anymore, breaking some old patches without any urgent
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the OSC path, unless the selector is "list"
> where the first element of the message is considered the OSC path'.
"The first element in the incoming message is considered the OSC path." :) No
mentioning of selectors, list-message, meta-messages needed to document it
here, unles
at the turnaround points where
clicks are expected anyway.
The offset-index of [tabread4~] is a message inlet that is not timing accurate,
[tabread4~] will use the value from here at a different time than [vline~] uses
its own copy of the value, leading to clicks.
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m]
suddenly. It's not like in [route] where [route list] is indeed needed
sometimes (or was needed before [list trim] appeared). One could just as well
define [routeOSC] as an objectclass that routes pure OSC-messages as well as
OSC-messages that are embedded in a "list
about 88
> samples (or 44 samples for each half of the triangle wave).
This actually is a limitation of [metro] which has a lower boundary of 1
millisecond. If you replace it with a metro-clone based on a feedback'd [delay]
you can get lower periods.
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have expr in it anymore. You can get it
here:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/abstractions/footils/tunetof/
I don't remember anymore if the latest version deals correctly with non-octave
tunings, it may not. What exactly did you change here?
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and don't
need to run
scl2pd.py again.
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the blue PIL! http://www.lua.org/pil/
For starters the online 1st edition is fine, but I still recommend to buy the
second edition: The PIL is one of the best books on programming in general in
my opinion, and you will probably learn a lot that you can use in other
languages as well.
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> Le 2012-02-25 à 09:34:00, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
>
>> Yes, exactly. I often use data structures, well, as data structures and
>> almost never use them for scores in a UPIC sense.
>
> What's UPIC ?
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>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 01:26:54PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > I have Pd-extended 42.5 that contains Michał Seta's sort, which used to
> > be cubic (O(n³)) and with even lower sortin
t runs in
> O(n) and uses O(log n) stack.
>
> I don't know any more recent version of list-abs.
To me the home of [list]-abs is the CVS repository, but I'm a bad boy who
practically never does proper "releases".
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> reason
> he's using x is because that's the field the canvas "sort" method uses.
Yes, exactly. I often use data structures, well, as data structures and
almost never use them for scores in a UPIC sense.
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> Le 2012-02-24 à 09:07:00, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
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>> I made it "half signal-rate": The object accepts signal parameters, but
>> these are just linearly interpolated internally, i.e. they don't
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>> Most filters in the rj library (https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib) use a
>> similar approach. They even include a biquad-clone written with
>> ele
hod borrowed from
Pd's data-structures for sorting. The problem here is not so much the sorting
algorithm, which is very fast and can sort way more than 125 items.
However copying the list to a data structure and back - this currently indeed
has a problem with stack-overflows, as I'm now
our message box to convert to a
list-message.
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e to mean a space within a
> symbol, but the printer doesn't handle it.
[stdout] does handle spaces in symbols, but not in combination with the [t a]
in front of it, only when it receives the spaced-out symbol directly. I guess
there is something shady with [stdout]'s anything-method
This has its roots indeed in the use of fading identical signal(s). If you use
different input sounds, the CP-fade gives nicer results. Attached is an example
that uses the linear/cp crossfades from the rj-library as subpatches and fades
two different signals and then the same s
om you as it gets to the center, it will move as if on an
oval.
Avoiding this kind of movement is the motivation for CP-panning.
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>
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
> > I need a simple equal-power crossfade between two signals. I asked the same
> > question a few years ago, but i just can&#x
ased wave full force! :)
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sin(p) * signal
where p is in radians from 0 to PI/2 (i.e. multiply your 0...1 panning by
1.5708...)
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have any ideas, or patches we can share?
Most filters in the rj library (https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib) use a similar
approach. They even include a biquad-clone written with elementary filters. Some
are modelled after the classic reson-filters used since CSound times.
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, for
example when converting messages to (and from) audio signals, because audio
signals
in Pd are block based. The gory details are in Miller's TTEM-book:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node40.html
Especially note the subchapters:
"Control streams
7;s important
here: It's not necessary to use Eric's objects in Pd. They may be useful in
Max/MSP and they provide some nice functionality besides accuracy, but the
accuracy you get with vline~ and Pd's clock objects (metro, delay, etc.)
already is subsample-exact, so it's f
ative.
>
> Sounds fine, perfect looping, thanks to [expr]
Isn't this actually very similar to the simpler and faster [wrap~] (see
attachment)? [wrap~] is different in that it will also wrap around for values
larger than twice the loop size and it will wrap around in negavite areas as
we
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 06:35:51PM -0700, Benoît Fortier wrote:
> I'm using the sigmund~ object to get amplitude and pitch information
> for the loudest peaks of a signal (see the sinusoid-tracking help
> patch, which can be found in the sigmund~ help patch). Out of that
> information, I want
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:39:11PM +0200, Patrice Colet wrote:
> hi,
>
> - "Sebastian Valenzuela" a écrit :
>
> > Thank you for the responses, Andy and Jonathan. But I am looking for
> > something that will output THE FIRST number whenever I hit "bang"...
> > then the NEXT number when i hit
Hi,
"Chord" is a drone metal piece I wrote for the Cologne Music Night
2011, where it was performed in a very nice location, the Kunststation
St. Peter, an old romanic church from around 1500. So far I don't have a
recording of the performance, so here you get one of the final
rehearsals I did wit
ng
> into a message or object box.
Editor conversions again. To see how the "type system" works, you should go to
the source code where you will discover that it allows "symbols that look like
a number", because the data-carrying part of a symbol is a char*.
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 02:13:01PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> About hex 0x form, that could conceivably fall under the "anything
> that looks like a number is a float", as least for programmers.
I really disagree with your assumption, that in Pd, "anything that looks
like a number
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:30:25AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > From: fbar
> > I used [makefilename %d] a lot in the rj library's [m_chorddict]
> > dictionary for chords, where some chord names are proper symbols, like
> > "m7", while others are floats like 7. The float-names get convert
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 11:41:53PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> I think my proposal of having Pd automagically make floats out of
> selectors that look like numbers solves half of the problem, as well as
> being consistent with what's written in the last paragraph of 2.3.1. The
> other half
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 02:34:30PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> On Sep 5, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >Here this sentence is true, but you know that not every data entity in
> >Pd can be used in object boxes as name or argument, while most things
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>
> On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>So in the sense of Pd, anything that can be intepreted as a
> >>number should be.
This discussion is s 2
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:51:34PM -1000, Rick T wrote:
> I have two signals Signal B and Signal C that I would like to append, which
> would create a joined signal called Signal D. I can create Signal B and
> Signal C but the questions I have is:
>
> I created a image that may help explain it be
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pairs, where the number is used as a flag if a symbol is active or "deleted".
So your symbolarray can have "holes", but OTOH if you create an array with only
one symbol stored at position 20,000 it will use up the memory of 20,000
symbol/number pairs. But so does
Maybe you can make use of the Python parser?
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> what about e_pitchshift (from RjDj)?
That's the G09 example patch transformed to an abstraction.
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> I'm mainly interested in using Pd for scientific and engineering
> research. I have a mixed level of experience--I'm deep into the DSP
> routines, but I have no clue how data structures work.
>
> About the only application I can thi
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Hi,
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:45:45AM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> But here is an FM glitcher using d-scale and Tonalatonal, I patch I found
> on list a few years ago that is RIPE for rjDJ-ness
> Maybe you can look at these and help me make em a little more spiffy, or
> at very least get tonal
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 07:37:00AM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> I did not hear back yesterday and I am wondering
> Can I use the d-scale abstraction David Mccallum wrote in rjdj?
I answered now, but to answer in more general terms: If an abstraction
uses only the objects and features that
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:21:53AM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> I am still fooling around with rjdj and I was wondering what way
> people are using to turn r #acceleromter & r #gyro to positive values.
> I usually use a mccallum abstraction d-scale for stuff like this but I
> am not sure it will
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:11:20PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
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> >It seems to want a list-drip?
>
> Get the whole list-abs library. Recent versions (since about two
> years) include my accelerated [list-drip] (formerly known as
> [list-drip-quick
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:59:50PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Another option would be sorting with data structures, which I usually do
> today.
> Attached is an example abstraction for data structure sorting (datasort.pd).
> It
> seems to be much faster than list-quic
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