Re: [PD] pd-scheme / SIOD
Hi List, Hi Larry I havent been using PD for a while. But i have a little project which i like to explore I found i nice scheme script in the context of the linux-sound-editor snd, that synthesizes plenty of birds, animals and insects. So i was wondering if it possible to get this running inside of PD, so i can be played in realtime... How difficult is it to compile SIOD on OS X ? i dont know much about scheme and various dialects - so i post a little snippet of the code, to find out, if that would work. ;;; Frogs and Toads ;;; ;;; ;;; Knudsen's frog (definstrument (a-frog beg dur freq amp amp-env gliss gliss-env pulse-dur pulse-env fm-index fm-freq) (let* ((start (seconds-samples beg)) (stop (+ start (seconds-samples dur))) (base (make-oscil freq)) (modm (if (and fm-index ( fm-index 0.0)) (make-oscil fm-freq) #f)) (frqf (if gliss-env (make-env gliss-env :duration dur :base 32 :scaler (hz-radians gliss)) #f)) (pulse (make-pulsed-env pulse-env pulse-dur (/ 1.0 pulse-dur))) (ampf (make-env amp-env :duration dur :scaler amp)) (index (hz-radians (* fm-freq fm-index (run (lambda () (do ((i start (1+ i))) ((= i stop)) (outa i (* (env ampf) (pulsed-env pulse 0.0) (oscil base (+ (if frqf (env frqf) 0.0) (if modm (* index (oscil modm)) 0.0)) (define (knudsens-frog beg amp) (a-frog beg .25 480 amp '(0 0 1 1 3 1 4 0) 50 '(0 0 .5 .2 .8 1 1 1) (/ .25 7) '(0 .1 .5 .4 .6 .75 1 .9 1.5 1 2 .9 2.3 .1) 1.75 40)) ; 0.01 here is about 1.75 as an fm index: (/ (radians-hz .01) 40) #| ;;; cricket-like: (with-sound (:play #t) (a-frog 0 .25 2000 .5 '(0 0 1 1 3 1 4 0) ; or 3000 6000 etc 50 '(0 0 .5 .2 .8 1 1 1) (/ .25 5) '(0 0 1 0 5 1 8 0 20 0) 0.01 40)) (with-sound (:play #t) (a-frog 0 .25 4000 .5 '(0 0 1 1 3 1 4 0) 0 #f (/ .25 10) '(0 0 1 1 2 1 4 0 10 0) 0.0 10)) ;;; frog-like (with-sound (:play #t) (a-frog 0 .25 2000 .5 '(0 0 1 1 3 1 4 0) 50 '(0 0 .5 .2 .8 1 1 1) (/ .25 10) '(0 0 1 1 2 1 3 0 4 0 5 1 7 1 8 0 20 0) 0.0 10)) |# (definstrument (a-cricket beg dur freq freq1 amp amp-env pulse-dur pulse-env) (let* ((start (seconds-samples beg)) (stop (+ start (seconds-samples dur))) (base (make-oscil freq)) (base1 (make-oscil freq1)) (pulse (make-pulsed-env pulse-env pulse-dur (/ 1.0 pulse-dur))) (ampf (make-env amp-env :duration dur :scaler amp))) (run (lambda () (do ((i start (1+ i))) ((= i stop)) (outa i (* (env ampf) (pulsed-env pulse 0.0) (+ (* .8 (oscil base 0.0)) (* .2 (oscil base1 0.0)) ;(with-sound (:play #t) (a-cricket 0 .12 4500 5400 .5 '(0 0 1 1 3 1 4 0) (/ .11 3) '(0 0 1 .8 5 1 6 0 15 0))) ;;; - and this (define* (calling-all-mammals :optional (beg 0.0) (spacing 0.0)) (indri beg 0.25)(set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (+ beg 2)) (define* (calling-all-insects :optional (beg 0.0) (spacing 0.0)) (mosquito(+ beg 0) 5 560 0.2)(set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (mosquito(+ beg 1) 3 880 0.05) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (broad-winged-tree-cricket (+ beg 5.5) 2.0 0.2)(set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (long-spurred-meadow-katydid (+ beg 8) 0.5) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (southern-mole-cricket (+ beg 18.5) 3 0.15)(set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (handsome-trig (+ beg 22) 2 0.5) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (fast-calling-tree-cricket (+ beg 24.5) 2 0.25)(set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (dog-day-cicada (+ beg 27) 2 0.1) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (linnaeus-cicada (+ beg 29.5) 2 0.125) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (lyric-cicada(+ beg 32) 2 0.125) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (confused-ground-cricket (+ beg 34.5) 2 0.3) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (tinkling-ground-cricket (+ beg 37) 2 0.3) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (marsh-meadow-grasshopper(+ beg 39.5) 0.3) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (striped-ground-cricket (+ beg 45) 2 0.25) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (sphagnum-ground-cricket (+ beg 47.5) 2 0.3) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (southeastern-field-cricket (+ beg 50) 2 0.13) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (snowy-tree-cricket (+ beg 52.5) 2.1 0.3) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (slightly-musical-conehead (+ beg 55) 2 0.4) (set! beg (+ beg spacing)) (pine-tree-cricket (+ beg 57.5)
[PD] PD on Android - how far is it and how far can it go...
Hi List. i have some question about PD on Android. Honestly, i dont know much about Android, so please be patient I would like to know how far the development is, the last info i read said, that sound is not working.. Any idea how long it will take ? The other question is, if it is possible to use pd on android in the background, so that another app is sending some data (would be: Compass data and direction) to PD and let PD process the sound... Would it further be possible to have some HRTF functionality with that , or are there librarier involved that cannot be ported to android ? Any other suggestion how that could be realised in android ? Have a good time...and thank you for your help Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] second instrument/piece in the silent percussion project...
Hey Jaime i can only talk for me ;-) I like it a lotthe MANO controller. And its just one object ??? Very cool work... please organize concerts in europe, or better germany Thumbs up ciao luigi Am 16.04.2010 um 23:46 schrieb pd-list-requ...@iem.at: hello everyone, In the link below there is a video documentation of a brand new performance with the new MANO Controller called Silent Construction 2 in a new webpage... lots of new things... For those who were in Sao Paulo for the PdCon you may have heard Silent Construction 1 (for Silent Drum). As in that case everything is done in Pd/GEM and a few new externals... hope you like it...: Dipl.-Ing. Luigi Rensinghoff postmas...@halbsolaut.de Mobil: 01775412191 Festnetz: 0351-7966370 web: www.halbsolaut.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Suggestion of Wii-Instrument to port to PD
Hi List, i found this project http://wiidii.net/ and i really liked it. It has some aspects that i was not able to implement in pd. If you are interested, have a look at the Source Code and the youtube video. I really dont know how to program, but it would be really cool if someone on the list likes it as well and wants to put effort into making this a pd-external.. Anyway Have fun All the best Luigi -- Dipl.-Ing. Luigi Rensinghoff postmas...@halbsolaut.de Mobil: 01775412191 web: www.halbsolaut.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Motion Plus Data to be used with Puredata/OSC-Data-stream
Hi Florian, Johannes an Mike after a little abstinence period i want to come back to my wiimote experiments and would like to know how far the integration of the MotionPlus into the pd-external went meanwhile. I setup up my laptop-environment and downloaded the latest stuff from svn. So my first step was trying to compile it on my ubuntu laptop and some questions aroused, which are based on the fact that i still dont know enough of c-programming and the compilation process. I looked into the makefile.org file and tried to set up all pathes according to my system and here is my first question: it is referring to this part of the makefile.org PD_PATH=../../../pd # specify the path to CWiid: #CWIID_PATH = $(ASCAPE_PATH)/usr/lib LIBCWIID_PATH = cwiid-svn/libcwiid ## # You shouldn't need to change anything beyond here! # ## ifdef PD_PATH PD_INCLUDE := -I$(PD_PATH)/src PD_EXTRA_PATH := ../../../../lib/libs PD_DOC_PATH := ../../../../lib/pd-help else PD_INCLUDE := -I../../../pd/src PD_EXTRA_PATH := /usr/local/lib/pd/extra PD_DOC_PATH := /usr/local/lib/pd/doc endif Since i have a somewhat unusual location of my files i ask my self if these pathes have to point to the locations where these files are (taken from wiimote.c file) #include stdio.h #include unistd.h #include sys/select.h #include bluetooth/bluetooth.h #include m_pd.h #include math.h #include cwiid.h Is that Right ??? I am always confused whether the path means the location of the sources or the binaries. I get the following error: in line 55: balance_cal hat unvollständigen Typen unbenutzter Parameter für mesg, timestamp ap nicht deklariert für CWIID_FLAG_MOTIONPLUS i guess some pathes are not set right Another thing i never know wit the declaration of pathes... When do i usequotes ?? like in PD_PATH=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd or PD_PATH=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd do i need the first slash ?? why is somtime an I used and sometimes not ? --- i looked for the locations of my header files: #include stdio.h /usr/include #include unistd.h /usr/include/sys and /usr/include #include sys/select.h #include bluetooth/bluetooth.h #include m_pd.h /usr/include and /opt/sw/pure-data/pd/src #include math.h /usr/include #include cwiid.h /opt/sw/cwiid-0.6.00/libcwiid/ /usr/local/include So my makefile should look like that - i thought --- PD_PATH=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd LIBCWIID_PATH=/opt/sw/cwiid-0.6.00/libcwiid and further down: PD_INCLUDE := -I$(PD_PATH)/src PD_EXTRA_PATH:=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd/extra PD_DOC_PATH:=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd/doc I appreciate any help Thanks Luigi Am 03.Okt.09 um 03.Okt.09 MESZ 10:35 schrieb Luigi Rensinghoff: Great.. Thanks a lot Sounds Promising Am 03.Okt.09 um 03.Okt.09 MESZ 10:23 schrieb Florian Krebs: Hello, I added Mike, the developer of the PD-External and IOhannes, who is also actively working with the External to our conversation. I continued working on the PD-external a bit the last weeks, and I think it would be great to set up a repository for it. @Mike Woz: Can we put it in the PureData development svn ? What I did was basically integrate multiple bluetooth dongle support (to be able to use more than 7 wiimotes on one computer). I haven't used the MotionPlus so far, but as I remember my collegue IOhannes is planning to use this for a project in a couple of weeks, and also Mike has done some work with the MotionPlus for the External. So again I would say next step is to put it in svn. Greetings, Florian - Original Message - From: Luigi Rensinghoff postmas...@halbsolaut.de To: cw...@abstrakraft.org; flokadi...@yahoo.de Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: Motion Plus Data to be used with Puredata/OSC-Data-stream Hello there, i am writing to you because the web told me, that you are actively developing or working on the cwiid-library or the Wiimote-PD-External for Puredata. I worked on a music-improvisation project with the wiimote and wrote quite a bit of PD-Patches and used the PD-External on linux, that depends on the cwiid library. I stopped further development because of the shortcomings due to accelerometers only and the complicated IR-Things with the wiimote. When i heard of the release of the MotionPlus, i was very excited and was looking forward to the time, when the MotionPlus was usuable with the PD-External. So now my question: Is it possible to use the MotionPlus with a recent version of cwiid and the pd-external ? What do i need to do for that ? Simply compile the PD-External against a cwiid-MotionPlus branch ? Did you make any tests with that ? I could read that it is still more or less beta... I further would like to know if you are planning to continue
[PD] Wii - Motion Plus - PD external
Hi List, been away for some time. I would like to know if in the meantime there has been any progress or successful attempt to use the MotionPlus-Extension for the Wiimote with a PD-External ? Anybody tried that or heard something about that ? Thanks a lot Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Wiimote - Motion Plus
Hi List a question to anybody who knows a little bit about the wiimote external and its development. will it be difficult to use the MotionPlus with its new functionality ? How long would it take if the wiimote-external needs adaptation ? Any ideas/experiences ?? All the best Luigi - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wiimote problems
Hi phillip i do not think there is a runing wiimote external out there for osx. If thats not the case, i would be very interested in this object. I guess you have to either use OSCulator (which i preferred over Darwiinremote) Or look at Junxion on the steim - page http://www.steim.org/steim/junxion_v4.html Am 30.Mai.09 um 30.Mai.09 MESZ 13:53 schrieb philippe boisnard: wii-osc1.pd Le 30 mai 09 à 13:06, Andrew Faraday a écrit : Hey guys I've looked at old forum and mailing list entries and it seems all the links given are out of date. I need to get data from a wii remote into pd in OSX. I've seen the [wiimote] object operating before now but I can't find where to download it. I've also downloaded Darwiinremote, which is synching but I don't know how I could get that data into PD. God Bless Andrew Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Hi Joao As i understand - there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong Luigi Am 23.Mai.09 um 23.Mai.09 MESZ 13:25 schrieb João Pais: Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Am 23.Mai.09 um 23.Mai.09 MESZ 15:40 schrieb chris clepper: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de wrote: there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong Stream audio into ProTools. I think it is possible. With JackInsert. I did it once not sure, maybe you need I used that (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15), but right Rewire would be cool.. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT]Mailing-List-Info Extraction-Software
Am 20.Mai.09 um 20.Mai.09 MESZ 01:00 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: You can download the whole archive of this list as a single file, I think. Yes, thats cool for the pd-list Doesnt work for goole/yahoo though... Thanks Luigi One thing that I have always dreamed about is an interface to all of the Pd patches ever posted to the pd lists. It probably would be easy to do with Perl or Python. .hc On May 19, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Luigi wrote: Hi List, a question that is not PD-related: Since a few weeks i am thinking if there is some kind of software, that extracts messages from lists, be it mailing lists, yahoo, or google groups. I am following th pd-list for quite some time and the information here is extremely valuable. The problem is the filtering, of course you can browse the archives, but i was wondering if anybody knows of a better way. A software-based solution that helps one to restructure information that is hidden in these kinds of lists. Of course it would need some human effort to sort by subject, topic or move to categories Any Ideas/Suggestions ? All the best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT]Mailing-List-Info Extraction-Software
Hi List, a question that is not PD-related: Since a few weeks i am thinking if there is some kind of software, that extracts messages from lists, be it mailing lists, yahoo, or google groups. I am following th pd-list for quite some time and the information here is extremely valuable. The problem is the filtering, of course you can browse the archives, but i was wondering if anybody knows of a better way. A software-based solution that helps one to restructure information that is hidden in these kinds of lists. Of course it would need some human effort to sort by subject, topic or move to categories Any Ideas/Suggestions ? All the best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CDM articles about Pd - contribution?
Hi, well it sounds very interesting... Am 02.Mai.09 um 02.Mai.09 MESZ 10:53 schrieb Marco Donnarumma: Hi all, i will start to write articles about Pd techniques on CDM - Create Digital Motion http://createdigitalmotion.com/ . For who doesn't know it, CDM is a online magazine about motion graphics, vjing, audiovideo, and whatever related. The editorial staff there used to write few things about Pd. But i proposed them to write more specific articles, with the aim to spread to a broader audience the usage of Pd for audiovideo, mixed- media related projects. There are many processes that i discovered partecipating to this mailing list and to the forum, so i would like to spread some of the most interesting and/or unexpected to a broad audience of possible users. What do you menat by this could you give an example ?? Maybe - this could give a little more specific idea... it would be fantastic if the list could contribute with ideas, little patches, images, screenshots or whatever you like. I'm still planning how to move on with this, but first i would like to know if this sounds interesting for the list or not. To start maybe it would be good to propose a list of topics .. some kind of frame... suggestions are very welcome... cheers Saluti Luigi -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abstraction creation audio engine start
Hm, worked quite ok here. And i dont quite understand. Does it bother you ? Dou you consider it a bug ? Or are you asking, because you want to know how the dsptree is updated ? Cheers Luigi Am 18.04.2009 um 17:56 schrieb Tuti: Hi, Thanks for the reply! I am using Pd version 0.40.3-extended (for Mac OS X 10.5), and, sure enough, pd audio engine does not start at abstract creation time. Here attached are two pd files to illustrate this problem. When you open test.pd it will run the abstraction sine.pd with the argument 440. If you enable the audio engine, it will generate a sinewave whose frequency is the argument (e.g. 440). Now, if you create a new one, with another argument, say sine 550 it will NOT generate a new sinewave (together with the sine 440) UNTIL you select/deselect it or tun on/off the audio engine. How to solve that?!? Thanks! Tuti On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote: what about something like sending a value to the inlet of an audio arithmetic object? would that update the dsptree? i'm wondering why the audio in my abstractions is working, because i don't think i am doing any of those things. sine.pdtest.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Variable in osc message
Hi Ricardo, have a close look at the help file. Probably just a format problem like /route space 1 or something like that. If that does not help, you should post your patch Cheers Luigi Am 16.04.2009 um 08:53 schrieb Ricardo Dueñas Parada: Hi list, just a simple question, I am working with osc, and i have to send messages to pd, I am using OSCroute to route messages. Next is happening to me: where i should be receiving the variable, i get this on the pd console: error: gatom: no method for '1' The message is something like/route/1 I guess that the number is being mapped as a symbol and not a number, how can I convert it? Or, what else can be? Thanks. Ricardo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wiimote on pure dyne
Hi wiimotarians I wouldnt recommed that, i tried it before and you get into trouble, the latest when you try to compile something yourself. Or ask dierctly someone from the pure:dyne team, what to do. When i tried the nesting - feature was not implemented yet, in the actual version. So alltogether i found it better - and less time-consuming - to install a full linux system like sidux... Just my recommendation best Luigi Am 16.04.2009 um 10:06 schrieb Alvaro: Hi, this might not be a problem with Wiimote, but rather a special thing of using pre-installed system. You have to make what they call a NEST to save your own settings and so on. http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/wiki/DocNesting Alvaro - ursprüngliche Nachricht - -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:37:01 + From: Nicanor Garcia Subject: [PD] Wiimote on pure dyne To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, I just installed pure dyne linux portable distro on my USB and I'm trying to configure it to my needs. I need to use the Wiimote object which is an external, but I haven't been able to do so. When I try to change the paths or the startup settings on Pure Data and I click Save all settings and then OK, the next time I open the window the changes I made are gone so it wont load the external. What can I do to change the settings? Or how can I load this external in other way? Thank you very much. Nicanor Garcia O. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -- ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?
Hi, well not directly, but i did use mplayer (commandline) to receive internet radion stations and you can send them (also multiple streams) to PD via Jack... The advantage: you are not limited to shoutcast. That worked quite good Best Luigi Am 08.04.2009 um 14:49 schrieb John Harrison: I've used mp3amp~ to play shoutcast streams. It seems to work pretty well and I think it's already included in Pd-extended for Linux. Might be on the OSX version too...not sure. -John On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:41 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I'm wondering if anyone has used PD to read internet radio streams? I need to make an interactive tuner ... --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell
Hey List. not wanting to offend anybody. But this has some good amount of absurdity in it, i think. And for any Newbie following that its actually quite frightening. Frank calls his way of doing hell and it only includes 3 steps. And Hans Christoph calls his way easy and it includes 10 steps monster monster-hell.. Another thing i always found strange about tthe mapping-collection. If you want to use the helpfiles in one of your patches and actually use more then one you get into conflicts What needs to be done to restructure mapping ?? I could help maybe, because its a library i used very often and found it very useful. I would be happy to do something good to that library ;-) All the Best Luigi Am 06.04.2009 um 15:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: 1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found 2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and [mapping/disjoin] These two were meant to have reversed reasons. Hmm, because you are doing it wrong? Try this: 1. create a single place to store externals, I recommend ~/pd- externals/ 2. add it to your path 3. cd /path/to/pure-data/trunk/abstractions/ 4. cp -a purepd ~/pd-externals (mapping is still poorly organized in SVN, so its a bit harder) 5. cd /path/to/pure-data/trunk/externals/mapping 6. mkdir ~/pd-externals/mapping 7. cp -a *.pd ~/pd-externals/mapping 8. cd help 9. cp -a *-help.pd ~/pd-externals/mapping 10. touch ~/pd-externals/mapping/mapping-meta.pd That's it. Then if you have the libdir.pd_linux loader loaded, you can also load that as a lib using any of the standard methods. (you'll need the libdir.c from SVN). pd -lib libdir -lib mapping declare -lib mapping import mapping .hc As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Searching for a starting point - 7seg number recognition in pd
hi list i would like to ask more advanced programmers for a good starting point. I would like to do a minimalistic OCR for 7 segment numbers in PD. The picture would be captured by a simple webcam. What is a good way to realize that ?? I found some perl-scripts that seem to do that, or some OCS software that one could send the images to. What do you think, how complicated would it be to write an external that does that ? Help is very much appreciated bye luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] more info about pix_fiducialtracks
Ok this is referring to my last post. I guess i could use pix_fiducialtrack to to the simple OCR-Task. I would just need to adjust the all.trees file, right ?? Is there any more information on how to do that ? How the region adjacency graph is built ?? Thanks Luigi Am 21.02.2009 um 11:20 schrieb Luigi: hi list i would like to ask more advanced programmers for a good starting point. I would like to do a minimalistic OCR for 7 segment numbers in PD. The picture would be captured by a simple webcam. What is a good way to realize that ?? I found some perl-scripts that seem to do that, or some OCS software that one could send the images to. What do you think, how complicated would it be to write an external that does that ? Help is very much appreciated bye luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] startup problems
Am 21.02.2009 um 18:20 schrieb Conor Higgins: Is this not the same as x11? nope there is a bug you are on 10.5.xx or sthg and there was a bug i remember Conor On 21 Feb 2009, at 16:10, Enrique Erne wrote: you could try this one: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.3.2.1 Conor Higgins wrote: Hi Jack, we did that... it didnt work, we tried it twice in fact. Once before we reinstalled the operating system, and once after we installed the operating system... Conor On 21 Feb 2009, at 15:50, Jack wrote: You have to install X11 User from the MacOSX installation DVD. ++ Jack Le 20 févr. 09 à 23:16, Conor Higgins a écrit : Hi guys, I am working on an art project at the moment and I am using PD to design the system that we will be exhibiting, now for some reason the artist can't seem to get PD to actually run properly on his own laptop, a macbook 13. We have tried everything with regards the startup paths, reinstalling, deleting the plist files, even reinstalling the operating system just last week, yet we are still getting the same problems with the software. Pretty much every other library can be loaded manually, i.e adding it to the startup path, except for those that involve video manipulation or graphics manipulation e.g. Gem, PDP, PiDiP etc. If you look at the startup window image below you will see that the errors having something to do with x11. We tried installing x11 to combat this error, but for some reason it will not allow us to do this either giving an error message stating that a newer version of the software already exists, which it doesn't... we have scanned the system looking for it and it isnt there. Has anybody here got an idea as to why this is happening? Thank you, Conor Higgins PD Part 1.tiffpd part2.tiffX11.tiff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI for PD in FLASH -- LINKS Dead ???
Seems like the Project have moved ?? Any Idea whereto ?? Luigi Am 17.02.2009 um 19:20 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: There is the Pd browser plugin with flash interface: http://www.iua.upf.edu/~malonso/pdplugin/ .hc On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:58 AM, enrique franco wrote: Hi, Are there any examples for building GUI in Flash for PD? thanks, Enrique ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions
That means: the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ?? This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd- vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ??? was that discussed before ?? Grüße Luigi Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce this. With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can. I get one: error: .x34e4d0: no such object .hc On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd on pd-vanilla 0.42-4: error: .xa22a90: no such object if I would: 1) open test.pd 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10 seconds) 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds) But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window solved all these problems. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions To: Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM So the consistency check failed: canvas_create_editor also happens on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4. I checked this by copying the contents of extra into a Pd-0.42-4.app and running your app. If we can track down the fix, I'll backport it if it is not too complicated. error: .x6cfc80: no such object seems to be specific to Pd-extended, I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to track down. Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd' side, while the pd- gui side it is still there... .hc On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote: Hi Hans Christian... All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- extended dont know which exact version from the builds actually so here we go: 1) Unzip the Archive 2) open drummer_main 3) with right-click go inside of drum_module 4) with right-click go inside gg_midi_note 5) do any modification 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose Save from the menu Hope that helps would be great to find that bugger Best Luigi example_consistency.zip Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Did you ever find an answer to this? Or is there an example patch? I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track down. .hc On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List, I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active instance of a patch. Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated in other abstractions. While patching i decide to change something - for example add an outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it. PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the patch anymore... I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for the workflow. I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight... For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject it might have been saved in the archive.. All the Best and a Happy New Year Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ds-tgl.pdtest.pd Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more
Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions
No that doesnt mean anything, i just threw away some garbage lying around. Actually the patch does not work in that version Am 09.02.2009 um 04:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Ok, I get that too. First thing I notice is that some connections are failing. It looks like perhaps drum_module.pd used to have two outlets, but now it does not. Does this happen for you? Does this trigger the bug? drummer_main.pd 48 0 0 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 49 0 42 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 50 0 32 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 50 1 34 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 50 1 22 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed drummer_main.pd 51 0 31 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 52 0 26 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed drummer_main.pd 52 1 35 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 52 1 45 0 (canvas-unpack) connection failed drummer_main.pd 53 0 37 0 (canvas-message) connection failed drummer_main.pd 53 1 36 0 (canvas-message) connection failed But yes, I get the issue that you are talking about, I'll dig deeper. .hc On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote: Hi Hans Christian... All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6 So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd version 0.40.3- extended dont know which exact version from the builds actually so here we go: 1) Unzip the Archive 2) open drummer_main 3) with right-click go inside of drum_module 4) with right-click go inside gg_midi_note 5) do any modification 6) Type CTRL-S for save or choose Save from the menu Hope that helps would be great to find that bugger Best Luigi example_consistency.zip Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Did you ever find an answer to this? Or is there an example patch? I have seen some strange behavior that I am trying to track down. .hc On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List, I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active instance of a patch. Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated in other abstractions. While patching i decide to change something - for example add an outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it. PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the patch anymore... I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for the workflow. I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight... For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject it might have been saved in the archive.. All the Best and a Happy New Year Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] weird_stave Release
Very Nice indeed. i was just wondering, what your preferred way to generate or edit these scores is ? Some kind of recording function would be great, dont you think ? Great Work.. All the Best Luigi Am 04.02.2009 um 05:51 schrieb Georg Werner: hi, thanks for your comments. I added a new helpfile with 2 staves which gives you 10 lines (but only the space on your screen would be a limit - as long as you give each instance a unique name). for better control i added an API ;) so you can send both of them [play( see the updated help file for some other small changes. georg Mike McGonagle schrieb: Wow, this is cool. While I am in no way knocking the work you have done, it would be great if this were able to handle a variable number of these staves... I have something that I would like to test it on, but ideally having 6 staves would be great. Thanks, Mike On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Georg Werner ge...@fricklr.de wrote: Hi, weird_stave is a graphical score GUI abstraction which uses data structures. It can play back 5 streams of values (between -100 an 100) at variable speed. Multiple instances of it can be used in one pd patch and scores can be stored in files. test it! Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list weird_stave_2.zip___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] aka.wiiremote object for os x
Hi Johannes, Hi Florian I tested to compile akawiiremote on OS X and it actually worked. But : i get only output of the buttons, cannot set the LED, and no motion- data... if anyone gets any further with it, i would be interested Bye Luigi Am 20.01.2009 um 14:11 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Florian Krebs wrote: I would like to work on akawiiremote a bit, because it seems to be the only external for wiimote and pd on mac. Can somebody, who has successfully compiled it yet, tell which version of Pd he/she has used ? I still haven't managed to compile it with neither pd- extended-0.40-3, nor pd-0.42-3, and would like to try it with another build system. Thanks, attached is a standalone makefile that at least compiles here. it is derived from the build-process of pd-extended (which had no problem here, but i have checked out the entire trunk) fgmadsr IOhannes makefile.zip___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions
Hi List, I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X PD-extended. The occurs when i change an Abstraction, but not the original, but an active instance of a patch. Fpr example i have many instances of the same abstraction encapsulated in other abstractions. While patching i decide to change something - for example add an outlet - i open the instance change it and try to save it. PD seems to update all occurring abstractions and meanwhile the parent-window seems to disappear and it is not possible to save the patch anymore... I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely enough the change is saved in the abstraction. but of course it is totally annoying for the workflow. I think i had this issue before and it disappeared in a more recent release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel I am sorry i cannot post an example patch right now, maybe tonight... For now i would like to ask if anybody is having the same problemand how to fix it, or maybe knows under which subject it might have been saved in the archive.. All the Best and a Happy New Year Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Speaker protection abstraction
Am 01.12.2008 um 15:21 schrieb Andy Farnell: It's quite rare to find a sound card and amplification system that can actually deliver DC. These are usually specialised DACs for control applications. Regular audio equipment uses DC blocking capacitors (analogue high-pass) that won't admit anything much below 5-10Hz. All the same, if you are using an experimental signal processing system like Pd or any other computer music language along with high power amplification for a live audience, it is sensible to add a compressor/limiter at the end of the chain. For the sake of your audience rather than the speakers. This should be a separate piece of hardware, not part of the software system that could fail. Hi, yes thats my experienc, too. I tried to use limiter~, but wasnt satisfied. it created some crackles with extreme signals, like pure sine-tones i would recommend a hardware solution as well. On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:50:41 -0500 Spencer Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my live performance work involves realtime processing of upright bass, and I find myself often using a lot of very short variable IIR taps (delays with feedback). I use either my 500-watt bass amp or the house PA as output. Right now I don't have any explicit patchage to make sure I'm not pumping out any signal that's straining the amplification system, and if I watch my speakers as I play I often see them popping in and out in a distressing fashion. I'm thinking I should start including some basic speaker protection into the output stage of my patches, mostly a limiter and highpass filter to get rid of any sub-audio and DC signal. Is this necessary? I assume that either the output of the firebox or the input of my amplification setup is AC-coupled and should be getting rid of DC anyways, but we all know what happens when you assume. Are other people using speaker protection patches? Anything more sophisticated than the classic [hip~ 5] before the output? -spencer ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Am 24.11.2008 um 01:51 schrieb Jack: It seems very impressive. Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad to test it. Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? ++ Yes i agree, very impressing, that is exactly what i am missing in my experiments with the wii-controller... Would be great if you share some patches Luigi Jack Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : Hey all, in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master thesis: http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make it all possible on current hardware). gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd , Ardour and Jack
Did you check this ?? http://ardour.org/node/2004 Am 24.11.2008 um 12:19 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: ju wrote: hy everybody, does anyone use Ardour with Pd ? are there any patches already working to use Pd with Ardour and Jack ? in order to fully answer your question, it would be interesting to know what you expect from this combination. there is not much to be found in Pd patches, when it comes to recording the output of Pd with ardour or using ardour as playback engine that feeds Pd. it's just plain jack-wiring Pd to ardour and/or vice-versa. do you want to remote-control one application from the other? fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] status of streaming on XP
Hi i was playing around with streamin... from OS X to XP.. i tried to use mp3streamin~ and similar on XP (0.43-extended) Looks like lipm3lame is missing.. Any streaming-abstraction that works out of the box on XP ?? Thanks Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] status of streaming on XP
Am 23.11.2008 um 13:03 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 12:55 +0100, Luigi wrote: Hi i was playing around with streamin... from OS X to XP.. i tried to use mp3streamin~ and similar on XP (0.43-extended) Looks like lipm3lame is missing.. Any streaming-abstraction that works out of the box on XP ?? maybe it is just a matter of downloading the lame.dll file and putting it somewhere where [mp3streamin~] finds it? Thats what i thought... The error showing up in XP is: limp3lame-0.dll cannot be found. But not by me either (on the net i mean) All i found was lame3.98 which includes a lame_enc.dll ??? In the case of mpstreamin i think i rather need a lame_dec, even if i rename the dll and put it somewhere Any other suggestions ? Thanks Luigi i think, i had it once running on windows, but i am not sure anymore. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Startup Error PD-extended MAC OS 10.5
Hi List: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/001_Audio/ 001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd- extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: can't map pdp: can't load library /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/001_Audio/ 001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ pidip.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd- extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: can't map Whats the proper and easy way to fix that ?? I dont actually need the librariesbut it looks ugly ;-) Best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Startup Error PD-extended MAC OS 10.5
Hi Hans i found it out myself and the information your link points to is not up-to-date for LEOPARD...(10.5) i had X11 installed but that seems to be buggy in 10.5, therefore one needs: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.3.1 maybe you want to add it to the wiki ?? might be interesting for other Leopard users... All the best Luigi Am 14.11.2008 um 23:19 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Install X11: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-fix-this-error-library-not- loaded-usr-x11r6-lib-libx11-6-dylib .hc On Nov 14, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Luigi wrote: Hi List: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/001_Audio/ 001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd- extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: can't map pdp: can't load library /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/001_Audio/ 001_Experimentell/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ pidip.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/ libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/001_Audio/001_Experimentell/Pd- extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: can't map Whats the proper and easy way to fix that ?? I dont actually need the librariesbut it looks ugly ;-) Best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cant load libraries
i did not touch the PD-default-Preference file at zexy is loaded by defualt probably an issue with the libloader... I would suggest to use the preference file that comes with the pd- extended installer Did you read the Readme ??? cheers Luigi Am 12.11.2008 um 15:20 schrieb Conor Higgins: this is the start up message that I am getting... just in case anybody wanted to know... GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.1 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Jul 29 2008 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors :Mark Danks (original version) GEM: Chris Clepper GEM: James Tittle GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX GEM: using SSE2 optimization zexy: can't load library PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs [pdp_qt]: setting LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR to: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libquicktime gridflow: can't load library framestein: can't load library PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.22 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) On 12 Nov 2008, at 10:45, Conor Higgins wrote: Hi I am trying to install Zexy 2.1 on Mac OS X Leopardit is starting to get annoying at this stage because it will not install for meI mean I am not quite sure as to how to install different libraries anyway but I successfully managed (fluked) doing it before with Gem and one or two others at the moment when i start up PD i am getting cant load library for Zexy, gridflow and also for framestein is it a compatibility issue with OS X or else is it someting I am doing wrongundoubtedly it is the latter case if anything... Thanks, Conor ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Looking for an RjDj Scene producer in Canada
Gratuliere ;-) freut mich sehr für Dich ... springt denn da auch was bei raus ? finanziell ?? doofe frage ich weiß, aber das gönn ich Dir auch Liebe Grüße Luigi Am 13.11.2008 um 00:00 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: Two weeks after RjDj launched in October, the application was downloaded ~10.000 times, and the count is still growing. Oops, I got my numbers wrong: there were actually 50,000 downloads in that time. Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __rjdj.me__ ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] looking for collections - patches
Hi List... maybe someone can help me... after a hard disk crash i lost some things that i collected browsing the net. I remember a fft-effects collection, tha i cant remember who made them, i think it was a southamerican composer studying in the netherlands any ideas ? I am about to buy ableton live, i remember someone made something that was similiar to abletons elastic-audio/warp concept. Any Ideas which project/collection that was ? All the best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] looking for collections - patches
Am 07.11.2008 um 18:25 schrieb Si Mills:
I think the ones on that page were compiled for ppc
you need the intel build ones, which oddly don't feature on there...
(although the source is if you want to roll your own)
Download intel ones here then install as normal like the ppc package
On 7 Nov 2008, at 16:37, Lao Yu wrote:
Thanks.yes fftease is a very nice collection and Gyre... i will
have a closer look
But i meant a different set of pure abstractions, damn
tried to find it with google for hours yesterday...
Any one else an idea ?
On Nov 7, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Si Mills wrote:
was it fftease? http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/
FFTease doesn't run on an intelmac ('can't load library' error) -
does anybody know about a recent version?
Also, at least one of the authors is not studying any longer, his e-
mail address is not updated on the site you quoted.
On an older G4 the library loads but I can't get the links to the
objects work ok. Also very strange...
This seems to be a very interesting package, what a pity.
J
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[PD] live distro with pd extended
Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? Thanks luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] live distro with pd extended
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi List Well maybe it was discussed before I am looking for a live distro like puredyne , that i can start from a CD, with my patches on an usb stick. Since i have to usse a foreign computer for a performance. I tried with puredyne but i am missing many externals from pd- extended Is there anything like a debian-live cd with the complete and full pd- extended ?? i'm no expert in live distro area, but why don't you simply add the missing externals to the pure:dyne usb installation? i guess, it is easier to adapt the pd inside the distro than to adapt the distro around pd-extended. roman I didnt manage tocompile them...due to.c compiler missing i think . and the repository - thing with apt-get didnt work as i expected it hm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] warmest reverb?
partconv is great but eats a lot of cpu and vst ?? cheers luigi On Oct 11, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I am currently working furiously on a sound design project. I used freeverb since it is quick and easy. But now I want to replace it with the warmest reverb Pd can offer. Any suggestions? .hc -- -- It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version
Hi i ran into similar situations in the past and use the following procedure now. Which can easily adapted if you want to copy a complicated (meaning: consinsting of many different abstractions, that you got from collections, built yourself or whatever). So in your example i would open the example patch (the main-patch) and as you did save to a different location. Then i would create a folder next to the target location and call it maybe abs or lib Then i would add a declare - statement including the new folders (i noticed that on OSX you need always the Full path whereas on XP and linux the relative path is sufficient) And the open all the abstractions contained in the main original path and save the with the same names in the newly created folders That way you can easily copy projects from one computer to another... I use several folders where i collect the abstractions i use. For example i dont want to have pd look into all the abstraction folders included in pd-extended. It was mentioned before that this increases loading time. So i just copy the one or two abstractions i use from maybe list- abs or mapping and thats it Maybe that can help you Does someone recommend a different procedure ?? All the Best Luigi On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:32 PM, Lao Yu wrote: Steffen, On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: How do you open it? Are you opening it from the help browser? from the open dialog. when I invoke an abstraction I create a new object and give it the name of the abstraction. in the case of output~ that I mention to Claude the abstraction that I create in my patch wouldn't look like the one in the figs folder which I want to use. Hmmm Best Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Py/pyext binary for OS X 10.4?
I had one... but didnt touch it for over half a year. So i dont really know if it is working. I remember that i didnt want to go through the flext build system, but at the end it wasnt actually that hard actually i see some py.pd_darwin in the pd-extended folder, but i guess they dont work Sorry Luigi Am 15.08.2008 um 23:14 schrieb Phil Stone: Hello, Sorry to revive an old thread (from last March), but the URL referred to by Thomas below no longer seems to work. Anybody have a working py/pyext binary for OS X 10.4? The one in the latest Pd-extended seems to have the compiled-by-10.5 problem, and won't load. Many thanks, Phil Stone In http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-03/060118.html , Thomas Grill (gr at g.org) writes: Hey all, I had the chance to compile py on a 10.4 machine... the binary is in http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/osx. I hope it works for you. gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] MIDI clkin and realtimein
Hi Dear List and Listers.. for the first time i do more with MIDI i checked some posts in the archive, but they are quite old... The Problem: I would like to sync PD to an incoming MIDI-Clock, and the best would be to route it through PD to the MIDI-Equipment ... Is that possible on OS X ??? It seems [midiclkin] is working somehow but .. after measuring the time between incoming beats and converting it to bpm it is not quite exact... and i dont know how to send it to the output. I guess using somekind of external program that does the midi- patching is the choice... (Any Idea ?) Or are there any midi related objects, that are not in pd-extended, but compile on OS X, by now ?? midirealtimein...does still not work on OS X, right ?? Thanks Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sequencer app for osx (Iannis Xenakis?)
Am 12.08.2008 um 14:07 schrieb s.koepf: Hallo Ignacio, ah, I see. Unfortunately I don't know of available software here. In your situation, I would try to directly contact Peter Hoffmann. Did so earlier this dayi am interested, too... Just to have a look at it.. Lets keep in touch if someone gets the App (And of course if Peter Hoffmann is willing to share it) Best Luigi Siegfried Koepf Ignacio Viano wrote: Thanks Siegfried, that's what I already have. Actually, what I'm looking for is the software itself. Any ideas about that? Thanks Ignacio - --- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sequencer app for osx (Iannis Xenakis?)
cool good to know Am 12.08.2008 um 14:39 schrieb Derek Holzer: Isn't there an implementation of GENDYN in Supercollider? http://danielnouri.org/docs/SuperColliderHelp/UGens/Oscillators/ Gendy2.html best, Derek Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Am 12.08.2008 um 14:07 schrieb s.koepf: Hallo Ignacio, ah, I see. Unfortunately I don't know of available software here. In your situation, I would try to directly contact Peter Hoffmann. Did so earlier this dayi am interested, too... Just to have a look at it.. Lets keep in touch if someone gets the App (And of course if Peter Hoffmann is willing to share it) Best Luigi Siegfried Koepf Ignacio Viano wrote: Thanks Siegfried, that's what I already have. Actually, what I'm looking for is the software itself. Any ideas about that? Thanks Ignacio --- -- --- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/ macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 149: Take a break ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] adapting wiimote_navigation_example patch with osculator
Hi have a look at the mapping abstractions they are very useful in this context For the actual point, i usually use autoscale to find out what the range should be, but then expr (if you know exactly how you have to scale is good for adjusting the range. The x-y coordinates might be the other way around in osculator, check carefully (timeline is a good tool to check the OSC data) Luigi Am 07.08.2008 um 01:41 schrieb punchik punchik: hello im trying to use the wiimote_navigation_example patch but since im on macosx, im trying to use osculator instead of the wiimote object for linux. I can receive my wiimote data in pd with osculator without any problems. But it seems the second outlet of the wiimote object outputs the acceleraion data in a diferent scale than osculator. The acceleration x y z varialbes that i get from osculator goes from 0 to 0.9 and when i use them in the patch instead of the wiimote object everything begins to spin very fast and never stops any idea how to fix this?? thanks p. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ultrasonic 'theremin' patch
Thats very cool... i heard of someone implementing that with a nord-modular If you browse the forums maybe you can find it... Its a cool thing to have for Sound-Installations... Best Luigi Am 07.08.2008 um 21:16 schrieb Ico Doornekamp: Hi all, Yesterday I found out that modern audio cards can do much higher sample rates then 48000, which allows for entertaining experiments with ultrasound. I'm not sure if this has been done before, but I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I've created a patch running on a samplerate of 88200 Hz, which sends out high-frequency chirps over two laptop speakers. The chirps are reflected back to the bultin mic using both hands. The reflection is correlated with the outgoing chirps to calculate the time the sound waves needed to return to the mic, thus measuring the distance to the hands or any objects hovering above the laptop. This particular patch just drives two tone generators whose frequencies depend on the measured distances, which are played back over the same speakers as the high-frequency chirps. The result is a two-tone-polyphonic theremin-like instrument. If only I could play this thing in tune... A simple demonstration video and the patch can be found at http://zevv.nl/play/code/ultrasonic-theremin/ This patch just a first test using ultrasound, I'm sure much more interesting things can be done using this technique. The patch is not very well documented at this time, and I think getting things to work needs a fair amount of tweaking for each different setup. Things that need to be setup properly are output level of the soundcard, a magic gain factor after the correlation, and the range that should be inspected for echo peaks to avoid detecing of reflections from the ceiling. I think it would be possible to make the patch do some auto-detection of some of the paremeters like ceiling height and gain factors, which would make a nice addition for future versions. Enjoy, Ico -- :wq ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wiimote for macosx
As much as i know its still not working well. and the use of Osculator is still recommended on OS X bye luigi Am 06.08.2008 um 16:00 schrieb punchik punchik: hello , do anybody have compiled the wiimote object for macosx? if not where can i get a working wiiremote object from hans steiner compiled for macosx? thanks in advance ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Idiomatic Pd
Hi Luke.. I think that is very useful even better would it be to have that in a PD-Patch ;-) so it is 100% clear what is meant and maybe easier to read... Bye Luigi Am 28.07.2008 um 03:34 schrieb Luke Iannini: There are some amazing sets of abstractions being released recently, which has served to highlight the many extant styles of patching. I was wondering if there was interest in establishing a set of guidelines for patching in the vein of PEP 8 for Python; I've found that document to be very relaxing as it is a standardized approach to OCD. More seriously, it greatly helps when reading other people's code or collaborating. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ The only one I have seen so far for Pd covers best practices for layout. I'd want to include that, but also codify naming, arguments, common idioms, and so on. I've begun to collect some of my practices to start things off. I was hoping we could all lazy-vote the document together in this thread and I'll then compile it into a PdPedia/Pd.info document. So, feel free to object to or replace my propositions. Style: * If giving $0 as an argument to an abstraction, it is always first in the argument list [1] * * When possible, pass parent arguments in numeric order, like [child $0 $1 $2 other1 other2] etc. * Sends and Receives are written in camelCase, with R appended to complementary receives (e.g. in GUIs, $0mySlider for the send and $0mySliderR for the receive) * When prepending $0 to a symbol, only add a - to separate it from another number, like [r $0-1stSend]. Otherwise the symbol should immediately follow, like [r $0mySend]. * When working with stereo, Left and Right pairs are written with Le and Ri appended (to distinguish them from an R denoting receive, above) Programming recommendations * To invert a toggle, use [== 0] * Use the loadbang of the parent of both abstractions to initialize two or more interdependent abstractions [1] I think of this like emulating the self convention in Python And so on... Cheers Luke ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bcr2000 and midi-feedback
Am 22.07.2008 um 15:31 schrieb Atte André Jensen: Hi I have assigned a knob on my bcr2000 to a vertical slider in pd. Under the sliders properties, I have set send-symbol and receive-symbol to send and rec. I then have [ctlin 1] | [/ 127] | [s rec] [r send] | [* 127] | [ctlout 1] This basically works, the upper one is receiving from the bcr and moving the fader in pd, the lower one is updating the display on the bcr when the knob is moved in pd. The problem is that pd sends it's send-symbol, even if the fader is moved as a result of the receive-symbol. This means that the bcr get's the value right back, with a small delay, which causes the whole to be very reluctent to accept movements from the bcr. I could make some logic that doesn't send the value back if it was received from midi, but thought I'd ask if there was a simpler solution? i cant think of any probably you need to pit the send and receive out of the slider and do something with t b b and spigot... but that would be what you call the logic cheers luigi For instance is it possible to have pd's knobs *not* send it's send-symbol if the fader was moved as a result of a receive-symbol? -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bcr2000 and midi-feedback
thats cool i didn know/never used that Am 22.07.2008 um 15:50 schrieb kristof lauwers: Hi, You can set the value of the slider without having it sent back with a 'set' message [ctlin 1] | [/127] | [set $1( | [s rec] cheers, Kristof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net http://myspace.com/xofxof At 15:31 2008-07-22, you wrote: Hi I have assigned a knob on my bcr2000 to a vertical slider in pd. Under the sliders properties, I have set send-symbol and receive-symbol to send and rec. I then have [ctlin 1] | [/ 127] | [s rec] [r send] | [* 127] | [ctlout 1] This basically works, the upper one is receiving from the bcr and moving the fader in pd, the lower one is updating the display on the bcr when the knob is moved in pd. The problem is that pd sends it's send-symbol, even if the fader is moved as a result of the receive-symbol. This means that the bcr get's the value right back, with a small delay, which causes the whole to be very reluctent to accept movements from the bcr. I could make some logic that doesn't send the value back if it was received from midi, but thought I'd ask if there was a simpler solution? For instance is it possible to have pd's knobs *not* send it's send-symbol if the fader was moved as a result of a receive-symbol? -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] saving state of a patch
Hi if you just need to save for example the initial state of the patch - and since you said you are a beginner. 1) Use number2 instead of number, like toggle it has an init/no init switch, so it saves one state. 2) You can send all the parameters you want to save to a messagebox, just with | set $1 (. With clever naming and the use of abstractions you dont have to do much wiring But be careful: Message Boxes dont save their state within subpatches so they have to be in the parent patch. And actually when PD crashes a lot it is a bit dangerous, because you may loose all your settings before you can save them. of course you can as well use textfile ore arrays, but just for saving ONE state like the initial one you can get along with that, without having to use sssad or memento. On the other hand: sooner or later you will need them ;-) So you can also dive into it from the beginning ;-) Best Luigi If you need an example patch, let me know Am 17.07.2008 um 17:46 schrieb Atte André Jensen: Hi I'm trying to build something generic for performing live with pd and for the most parts, it's going really well. But I need to save the state of everything (a patch with some instances of some abstractions), so that the widgets will preserve their state between sessions. I looked into memento, but couldn't make it do anything useful, not even the manuals/memento/* stuff. Is memento broken and if not, could someone provide a brief example of how to use it. If broken, what other options are there? Thanks in advance for any response. -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] saving state of a patch
Am 21.07.2008 um 20:16 schrieb Atte André Jensen: Frank Barknecht wrote: Then I would recommend [sssad]. It's the most simple of them all and doesn't need any externals. (Note that it's missing from pd- extended's autobuilds currently for reasons I don't understand.) Ok, thanks for all the advice, I'll look at sssad, then. First problem: It seems it's there, but broken (is it my that's broken?): /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/sssad.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/sssad-help.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/_sssad /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/_sssad/singleton-help.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/_sssad/sssad-persistence.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/_sssad/singleton.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/_sssad/list_argument.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/sssad-example.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/sssad-meta.pd /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/sssliders.pd but creating a single [sssad] object gives: libdir_loader: added 'sssad' to the canvas-local objectclass path ... ... libdir_loader: added 'sssad' to the canvas-local objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'sssad' to the canvas-local objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'sssad' to the canvas-local objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'sssad' to the canvas-local objectclass path error: maximum object loading depth 1000 reached sssad ... couldn't create However google suggested that I should create [sssad/sssad], and that worked. Unfortunately right-clicking-help totally freezes up my system (something that never happens). What's up with that? Is that just a single bug (so don't click here) or a symptom of something bad? Did i have tat onc, too ?? because of prepend - list prepend ?? I am not sure Should I try to rescue what's there (and if so, what to do) or abandon it and install just sssad anew (and if so how/from where). Additional question: I never saw the slash in objects (like in [sssad/ssad]) before, it that some kind of namespace thing? Where can I read more on that, including pros/cons and recommended ways/ conventions? Its all in the mailing list archives ;-) One favourite subject, i guess... -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OS X PD-Extended - help-path question
Hi List A Little question about the helppath-startup flag... I am using Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080622 on OSX Macbook/Intel The lib/path definitions finally work fine, but i wonder where i have to put an additional -helppath folder. I made a patch where all the mapping - objects are collected, just to have an overview. And if i right click the objects i want the helpfile to open. But instead the abstractions open. Even though the help files are in the help-browser in the subfolder 5.reference/mapping. What should i do ?? 1) Include the startup flag -helppath ... bla bla ? There i dont know if on apple the path has to be in 's 2) Add a new path ? So it doesnt make a difference if is path or helppath ?? 3) Modify the puredata.org.plist file ?? 4) Go back to use a .pdrc-file ?? Thanks... --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] vst~ again Status and Questions
Hi List What about the infamous vst~ object ?? I am trying it on XP now...installed pd-extended 0.39.3 and there is no help file ??? Ok...i took it from somewhere else and i can load the plugins .. just fine But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) is it supposed to work ?? And on Mac ? is somebody on a version with Edit-window ?? Thanks Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vst~ again Status and Questions
Am 17.07.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Thomas Grill: Am 16.07.2008 um 21:47 schrieb Luigi Rensinghoff: But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) does your vst plugin have an editor at all? I know there are some that don't work too well, but even those should at least show up. No it doesnt show up ... nothing... ...i think i can use plogue bidule for it.. but its a shame ;-) something pd cant do is it supposed to work ?? yes, it usually does gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] int.lib for PD? (interpolating between numerous preset values)
Hi, This looks really nice and exciting. I would like to incorporate the patch in the wiimote experiments i did...so the 2D variables could actually be catched from the wii-IR coordinates. What i dont understand is the synth part ?? i did not have a closer look yet for now i am just getting this error: Warning_synth_not_implemented (using_SBlive): symbol Kontakt-2 If i understand right it is just necessary to connect a synth via MIDI, so what does the error message mean ? Anyway... Thanks for posting it Bye Luigi Am 12.07.2008 um 09:51 schrieb Anders Friberg: Hi Joseph, I did exactly that but in pd so I wonder who it was? Anyway my patch is called pDM and can be downloaded at http://www.speech.kth.se/music/performance/download/ It includes 2D interpolation of a number of variables. The corner values of each variable are set to specific values and the rest of the space is more or less linearly interpolated. Since 4 points are defined it will result in a somewhat curved surface. All this is described in the papers, see the readme. Defining presets in arbitrarily positions in the space would be an interesting extension that needs some other method of interpolation. Best Anders --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Speed of messages (WII-OSC..etc)
Hi dear List I have a question regarding my Wiimote-OSC experiments. The wiimote data gets into PD via OSC, either through OSculator or through a linuxbox running the wiimote external. So i have problems computing really really fast movements from the wiimote and i would like to ask if somebody knows about the speed of messages, be it in OSC, PD or Osculator 1) What do you think is a reasonable message-rate for fast motion- data ? I have the impression i need to slow down the data (with speedlim, pipe or resample) to be able to process it properly - any experience with that or recommendations ? 2) What would you consider the bottleneck ? 3) Could it be an advantage to transform incoming OSC-messages into a signal ? instead of dealing with floats ? The idea behind it is to combine x-y IR Data from the wii with the accelleration data (Mapping accelleration to velocity, but catch the note from the IR-Position) Did anybody find a good solution for that ? Thanks Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals
Great !!! Thats very helpful.. Is it diffcult to implement detecting abstractions within abstractions ??? That would be perfect Cheers Luigi Am 04.07.2008 um 13:20 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I've made a patch that might be useful for others. In the attached patch you can open a pd-file and the main window prints all the abstractions or externals that you need to make the patch work. It doesn't detect abstractions within abstractions though and it also prints objects like [5] or [$1], I didn't find a solution for this (small) problem yet. (I'd think it is bad pratice to use [5] in sted of [5( or am I wrong?) I wanted to make a patch that copied all the necessary abstractions and the file itself to a new folder but I ended up with this simpler solution... --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data
Hi Rich How is your project going ?? I cant wait to beta-test, what do you think ?? When is it ready to be released or pre-leleased.. Best Luigi Am 29.04.2008 um 17:10 schrieb Rich E: I re-tarred and re-uploaded trax.tar.gz, can you try it again? Sorry about that.. regards, rich On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:18 -0700 Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the comments. I'd love to hear if people are getting it to work, having problems, making cool sounds, etc. Rich, I had a problem unpacking the source file .tar.gz on Linux. I was going to grab from CVS when I'm not so busy, but just to let you know. a. -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Midi File Playback
Hi List I would like to play back a midi file and i am using seq for that. It looks like xeq is not under active development any more and thus not a good choice for OSX.. Seq works fine so far ... but...what about playback speed ?? Do i have to send a MIDI - metro message via midiin ?? As another way i tried to use qlist (after having converted the midifile to a textfile, but that seems to be an overcomplicated way) Any suggestions ?? Thanks Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] autosaving incluing GOP subpatches Autosaver
Hi List, Hi Georg I would like to have one subject discussed... I am encountering a problem (OS X Mac-Intel - Pd-extended version 0.40.3-extended-20080614) When quite a big patch i am working on (CPU-load around 80-90%) i actually can not close it in a clean way. Sometimes i slightly modify subpatches, or pd thinks they are modified because some numberboxes have a different value comapred to the state when opening a patch. Every Time i want to close the Master-parent-patch PD asks whether i want to discard changes. Sometimes the subpatch in question is opened and i can save it sometimes pd does not show me the subpatch. Is there a way to (auto)save a patch INCLUDING all related subpatches ?? The GOP issue has been discussed, i dont know if thats related ? Thanks List Luigi Am 10.06.2008 um 11:12 schrieb Georg Werner: Hi, when working under unstable conditions i thought about an autosaving funtion for Pd. This an abstraction i did and like to share. It does saving every x minutes as well as immediate saving with a bang. All options are explained in the help file. Georgautosaver.zip___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sssad and polywavesynth
Dear List If someone also uses the great Polywavesynth.well i have a little weird problem.. I would like to use two of them in one patch and store and recall presets for each of them.. lets say poly1 and poly2... i create sssad_panel poly1 and poly2 but if i save a preset from poly1 it also catches the values from poly2 so.they are not 100% independent from each other.. It might be a bit complicated to unterstand...but the same probably happens with anything that is stored with sssad What am i doing wrong Thanks Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Troubleshooting help CPU Overload
Actually the problem disappeared... Just in case it appears again i have some more questions... Am 13.06.2008 um 13:50 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List... I have a patch that drives the cpu-load up Wha do you think is the most common source for that ?? streams of messages (i often find that people just send tons of statechanges triggering all kind of superfluous calculations, while they really are just interested in the settled state) vline~ naive search implementations, denormals, memory allocation,... Could you explain that a little more ??? denormals, memory allocation ?? How should i pin down the malicious circuit/external or whatevr it is.. hmm... try to find out when problems occur (do you have constant load? spikes? is the CPU load growing while the patch is running?) what does this tell you regarding your program logic? try to disable parts of the patch (by deleting it). does the problem go away? try to narrow down the culprit. use [print] for debugging rather than the numberbox (nbx will not tell you if a number changes 1 times per tick) use a profiler (e.g. valgrind, shark,...) What is that ??? It seems not to be related to Audio-Processing even with audio turned off, [vline~] has a known bug (fixed by claude, but i don't know whether this has already made it into Pd) that would start eating CPU if you keep sending it messages. there might be other objects that have similar problems (that is audio-objects that start eating CPU without dsp-on) it could have been that actuallyi realized it was behaving very strange and replaced it fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Anybody Using Faust ??
Hey List... what do think about Faust ??? Is anybody using it outside the academic research and teaching world... I just managed to get the Eks Extended Karplus Strong compiled on Intel Mac.. and would like to know if there is anybody with some experiences on it... Cheers Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Question on Nightly builds...MacIntel
Since there are Mac-Intel builds only once in a while... i would very much appreciate if there you be an annouce-e-mail if there is a new Mac-Intel-Build Thanks to all Luigi Am 12.06.2008 um 20:48 schrieb Mike McGonagle: Hello all, I have noticed the the last week or so that there are no Mac builds for the nightly stuff. Is there something happening with the Mac distro? Also, when there were things for the Mac, there was also something labeled with 'dyn'. Is that another separate distro? When I tried to download those things, it came up with a Pd-Extended app, named the same as the other Mac version, but when I tried to run it, it acted like it was starting, but then just quit. I checked the console, but couldn't find any error messages. Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Troubleshooting help CPU Overload
Hi List... I have a patch that drives the cpu-load up Wha do you think is the most common source for that ?? How should i pin down the malicious circuit/external or whatevr it is.. It seems not to be related to Audio-Processing Thanks Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Non-transposing delay
Hi what about vd~ ?? Is it not what you are looking for ? Or is non-transposing-delay any kind of special term i dont know of ?? Best Luigi Am 05.06.2008 um 18:17 schrieb Jamie Bullock: Hi folks, Does anyone know of Pd implemenation (or external) of a non- transposing variable delay? Thanks, Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk Birmingham City University is the new name unveiled for the former University of Central England in Birmingham For more information about the name change go to http:// www.bcu.ac.uk/namechange/official_announcement.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] chuck~ object
Hi list i am following the chuck list...and there was an object mentioned named [chuck~] http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/software/index.html its for max/msp but maybe someone wants to port it or flext-ize it... just an idea... bye Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fftease-help was Re: chromatic fft
Am 12.05.2008 um 10:11 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig: Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List... i looked at these objects today (very proud because i inally have my flext installation running) ;-) And comparing the flext distribution with the original from here... http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/ oh, that's getting more complicated than it should: Dont worry ;-) i can handle it ;-) it seems like the fftease you are trying to run is the backport done by thomas grill using flext. i was rather referring to eric's original objects (the link you have posted) which are now (for some time) available for Pd anyhow, so no need to use the reverse-engineered(?) objects by thomas i tend to use first what is in PD-extended (svn) so it just happened that i used the felxt-port first The help files from the original are far more descriptive . Shouldnt at least the text-parts be included in pd-extended ?? I think the help files will not work directly because the objects have varying numbers of in- and outlets... if you use eric's fftease-library, the help-files should work:-) Well, for me its fine (although i think the compilation of erics files did not work for intel-macs) I was just thinking that, if Pd-extended is adressing people who do their first steps with PD it might be much better to have more descriptive help-files... anyway... Enjoy the sun ;-) Bye Luigi mfgasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] fftease-help was Re: chromatic fft
Hi List... i looked at these objects today (very proud because i inally have my flext installation running) ;-) And comparing the flext distribution with the original from here... http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/ The help files from the original are far more descriptive . Shouldnt at least the text-parts be included in pd-extended ?? I think the help files will not work directly because the objects have varying numbers of in- and outlets... Anyway Just a suggestion Luigi Am 11.05.2008 um 21:38 schrieb Mirko Maier: Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, please, i need a hint, is there a possibilty for chromatic control over the fft bins? i think of the pd example I03.resynthesis but having an array with chromatic (or same-distant) intervals for the whole range. i guess eric lyon's fftease library is what you might be looking for. ok, thanx, but which object exactly is it? regs, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OSX-intel extended Audiio droputs
Hi Listi am quite desperate;-(Working on areally nice patch with boids and sound.I have the latest available OS-X extended for Intel, which is still from nightly autobuilds (20080505), because it has a working boid3D external.There is pmpd and Gem involved but the load meter is only a 30 percent.After about 7 seconds of running the patch (no Gui-elemnt or number box running) i start to have nasty crackle sounds.I have no idea where they come fromi put the delay to 100 ms and the -rt audioflag...patch is attachedIf anybody has an Idea ?? boids3d-pmpd-example_minimal.pd Description: application/applefile boids3d-pmpd-example_minimal.pd Description: Binary data Best Luigi >---Luigi Rensinghoff[EMAIL PROTECTED]skype:gigischinkeichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] declare - paths - prefPane - trouble
Hi List Latest Pd-extended on Intel-OSX is actually not usable right now... The PrefPane crashes and it is confusing how, and if and declare is working Strange.. i would like to start PD-extenden with an empty paths-prefpane, to edit it manually. As far as i understand the bug-reports the PrefPane can handle up to ten entries...which could be enough for me right now. How can i start with a blank PrefPane ?? I tried the hint from the readme, but it seems not to work. I dont understand where the extended Package holds the startup- script Any ideas ?? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] declare - paths - prefPane - trouble
p.s. could you do me a favour: please restrain from just pressing reply on a random email when you actually want to start a new thread. just hit new mail and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks. Sure, sorry..i had no idea it makes a different Bye Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] boids2D 3D again
Ok i got it working now - fantastic The only parameter i dont quite understand is the wall probably silly.what does l/t/r/b/f/b stand for... Thanks Luigi Am 06.05.2008 um 04:24 schrieb marius schebella: Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List i looked at boids - just like someone before - more or less accidently, but i think thats a very cool external with a lot of musical potential. Now two questions: Does anbody know how to compile on mac-Intel ? Or is there a binary somewhere ?? boids is included in pd-extended for example. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] boids2D 3D again
Hi List i looked at boids - just like someone before - more or less accidently, but i think thats a very cool external with a lot of musical potential. Now two questions: Does anbody know how to compile on mac-Intel ? Or is there a binary somewhere ?? I tried the CVS-Version on linux, but it looks like it did not compile right (maybe the double-float problem) ? In which version was the problem fixed ?? When i open the help-patch, basically it looks like the values going to the gemspheres a far too little (range from -0.2 to 0.2 - instead of expected -4 to 4) and every time i change a parameter boids3D stops the calculation and has to be re-initiated again.. BTW: Does anybody have a little sound-boids- example patch ?? Once it is working ? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ANN - Gesture Recognition Capabilities
Hi all very interesting, really.. yet it does take me away more and more from my inital question ;-) And a practical solution to implement some simplicistic gesture recognition in PD.. ..and wait for the summer, when the PD bindings are ready... I hope there will be some creative, artisitic examples then.. Best Regards Luigi Am 04.05.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Georg Holzmann: Hallo! Hm. You can incorporate changes over time using a standard feedforward ANN by wrapping your time-ordered vectors over a given time period into a single input vector and increasing the number of inputs to the network accordingly. But of course this introduces latency and other problems (e.g. it could massively increase the number of training examples required). Pd has the ann_td external, which provides a 'time delay' neural network which I believe incorporates time using a method similar to that described above. Yes of course, one other possibility is to use time delayed neural networks ... For example a hidden markov model or echo state network (= special kind of recurrent neural network) should work. I'm intrigued! Presumably these approaches avoid the latency problem by maintaining the network's state? Are there other advantages -- easier to train? Hm ... I did not think about latency ... but if you do not process the data in blocks there should not be a significant latency (also for the time delay NN) ? However, the advantage of the echo state network is that training is linear and you cannot get in a suboptimal solution as with feedforward neural networks (where the error surface has multiple local minimas) - see for example http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Echo_state_network for a short introduction. And it is recurrent - so in general more powerful ... from the link above: On a number of benchmark tasks, ESNs have starkly outperformed all other methods of nonlinear dynamical modelling If you are interested, I implemented ESNs (with various extensions) in a C++ library with python bindings: http:// aureservoir.sourceforge.net/, a PD external will hopefully follow in summer ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Oops Sorry for the last posting
damn... too quick... sorry for that Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] circle of fifths chord progression
Hi List Did anybody ever implement something like that in PD ?? http://images.google.de/images?q=circle+of +fifthshl=declient=firefox- arls=org.mozilla:de:officialhs=3iBum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Xoi=imagesct=tit le Maybe a good exercise to do with data-structures just an idea Bye Luigi___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Trax - Sinusoidal Model Synthesis in Pure Data
Wow... that opens really some doors to new sounds. Thanks very much. I dont have a wacom unfortunately, but ia m playing around with a WiiRemote quite a bit. Rich, do you have any plans for that ? Any idea for a good mapping scheme ?? Am 25.04.2008 um 05:34 schrieb Rich E: www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it. Trax is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~]. It gets the sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be imported with [sdiflists]. I'd like to know how well it works for others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much worse results on a Macbook. You can get the externals from cvs or: www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent]. *note: I chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with [linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to the correct /dev/input/event*. I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it is on. You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour: www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is.. cheers, rich ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Trax - OS X Installation
Hi Rich I know Linux is better ;-) especially for PD, but i am on a Macbook There unfortunately is no makefile for oscbank, and the makefile for sdiflists seems not to work for me. The included binary neither... But i found another oscbank in some extended distribution from svn or cvs Too bad... /Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/sdiflists.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/sdiflists.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _SdifFReadAllASCIIChunks Referenced from: /Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/ sdiflists.pd_darwin Expected in: flat namespace /Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/sdiflists.pd_darwin: dlopen(/ Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/sdiflists.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _SdifFReadAllASCIIChunks Referenced from: /Applications/01_AUDIO/Pd-extras/SMS/ sdiflists.pd_darwin Expected in: flat namespace Thats the error i get when i try to load sdiflists (thats the one i compiled myself) any idea ?? Thanks Luigi Am 25.04.2008 um 05:34 schrieb Rich E: www.teafordragons.com/rte/trax.html This is a patch I've been working on for quite some time now, finally packaged with some documentation and an example qlist with it. Trax is a fancy additive synthesizer that stores partials in data structures and re-synthesizes them using [oscbank~]. It gets the sinusoidal models from SDIF files with 1TRC frames, which have to be imported with [sdiflists]. I'd like to know how well it works for others, it makes great sounds on my Ubuntu laptop, although I had much worse results on a Macbook. You can get the externals from cvs or: www.teafordragons.com/rte/software.html I personall control Trax with a Wacom Intuos3, so there are mappings programmed for it that get wacom data using [linuxevent]. *note: I chose not to use [hid] because it is possible to call the wacom with [linuxevent /dev/input/wacom], which is always symbolically linked to the correct /dev/input/event*. I couldn't ever get [hid] to do find the wacom on its own, without specifying exactly which event number it is on. You can also listen to a couple pieces I wrote using Trax, which also use other fun Pd stuff and recorded in Ardour: www.teafordragons.com/rte/music.html Now, on to SMS, Spectral Model Synthesis, that is.. cheers, rich ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polymatrix...patchbay for audio and anything
Sorry, i dont get it ?? what do you mean... Am 25.04.2008 um 12:48 schrieb hard off: ahh, name changegets me every time. who thought of mtx_*~ though??? a bit over the top isn't it? why over the top ?? and still no help file. obviously audio matrices are so simple that everyone can understand them ;P i have a mtx:*~-help file --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-msg
Well... not yet...but if you post the patch, or the part with th 200 or more wires... i would test the difference. I am surprised where this discussion is going...many useful tips so far. I personally dont like that $0 $1 confusion somehow, but thats just because i dont remeber what i did when i open the patch many months later or so.. Wires are somehow more haptic and its a part of pd that i like, sort of the typical pd-character, but as in the 24 24 matrix thing - when you have to do more than 100 connections in one patch, then its kind of silly, this weaving so dynamic object creation or just automated connecting seems to be a good way.. To come to a little bit more practical example.. I am facing the problem - again with the mapping library - and this is, where it does not work with abstractions - i would like to have one abstraction with a mapping object inside, but not always the same... i post the example, later - where i am now experimenting with this message-thing basically its like that.. lets say you have an abstraction: transfer.pd inside of that there is the core-math object like exponential_curve or exponential_sigmoid so it would be cool to just send the argument expoential_curve to the abstraction so this object is created.. well...not very clear i guess.. but i will post it later .. What about the route audio~ float - object did nobody ever have the same problem ?? good night luigi Am 26.04.2008 um 00:06 schrieb Mike McGonagle: Just curious, but has anyone tried to test the performance differences between sending messages as compared to actually connecting things up with wires? I am curious weather or not one of my patches would work with messages, as I want to instantiate close to 200 oscillators, with each taking about 7 or 8 parameters per grain. Mike On 4/25/08, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 20:09 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: And yes, while this is possible, it just seems very difficult at best, to be able to create a patch and lay it out in such a way that you can make those sorts of selections. LOTS of planning would need to go into such a thing. What I generally do *if* I'm doing dynamic patching is write as much as possible into an abstraction and just create copies of that. nqpoly4~ may help with automating that. A very useful trick for these abstractions is to avoid doing connections at all and just pass $0 as an argument. Then inside the abstraction, use [r $1-inlet] receivers where $1 is the $0 of the parent as passed as argument instead of inlets, and [s $1-outlet] instead of outlets. Outside of the patch use [s $0-inlet] to write to the fake inlet, and [r $0- outlet] to read from the fake sender outlet. Do the same for signals with r~/s~ and throw~/catch~ pairs. Most dynamic connections can be avoided by this approach. If you need to pass data from one dynamically created abstraction to another, use a similar approach with numbered arguments. Again this can be seen in action in the redesign of nqpoly4~.pd that I once did and that's in svn/pd-extended as well, or in polypoly.pd. this is basically the approach, that probably all dynamic patches from netpd are based on. no connections are created or deleted dynamically (it's just too cumbersome and relies on undocumented features). parts that need to be deleted separately go into their own subpatch, so that they can be deleted simply by sending 'clear' to the appropriate subpatch. however, there _are_ issues, that cannot solved that way. whenever signals are involved with dynamically created abstractions, it's likely to get one-block-delays due to the creation order of the [throw~]s/[catch~]es and [send~]s/[receive~]s. don't know how to deal with that yet. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] direction
Hi there,since i am experimenting quite a bit with the mapping-abstractions...in the last dayswell, there is many times a solution for problems that i am facingThere is an object called "diff_n" which does simple differentiation, and thats exactly what you are looking for..maybe that helpsI have attached a patch...you dont need the mapping-abs in order to see how its made and how it is workingCheers Luigi diff_example.pd Description: Binary data Am 24.04.2008 um 22:21 schrieb Matthew Logan:Looks like the decrease and increase represent bangs... On 4/24/08, Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it looks good, but not working. I have made a fe assumptions in your sketch.does the big X represent the patch chords crossing to opposite inlets? also, i am assuming that the decrease and increase at the bottom arenumber boxes. with these assumptions, i am getting no changewhatsoever in the number boxe at the bottom.also, before sending this i looked back, connected a number box tot he outlet of [- ] and i am never getting a value above 0, therfore nochange is occurring.On 4/24/08, Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Carney wrote:>> > I need to be able to tell direction the slider is being "slid"> > relative to the direction it started from.> >>> ((slider value) - (previous slider value)) > 0 >>> slider> |> [t f f]> \ />X> / \> [-]> |> [> 0]> |> [select 0 1]> ||> decrease increase >>>> Hope this helps,>>> Claude> --> http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org>--Ben C. ___PD-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___PD-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >---Luigi Rensinghoff[EMAIL PROTECTED]skype:gigischinkeichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-msg
Hi List there is this well-written tips and tricks folder that desribes how to create objects/abstractions by sending messages. like...in folder #5: 2.create_new_abstract.pd.. First, thanks to who put that together, this is extremely helpful and only documented here... So my question is: Is there a way to find out the indexnumber of the objects (the creation-order-number), that is needed for the | connect a b c d( message ?? The scenario: imagine you build many objects and easily want to connect them with a little counter-like think. 1) How do you find out the number that needs to be given to connect ??? 2) Which additional arguments can be send to which object ?? for example i would like to build a number-box, using the built- in send and recieve mechanism... Is that possible ??? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-msg
Yes, you just need to set those arguments when you add the objects to the patch. I am not really sure where it is, but there is a listing of each of the objects in PD and what arguments they can handle. Oh yes i found it its just in the properties menu of the object - silly me Hope this helped. Mike Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] VOSIM - Voice Synth and similar
Hi Frank, thanks for your helpful remark... Am 07.04.2008 um 12:57 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Luigi Rensinghoff hat gesagt: // Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: I came across that email, when i searched the archive list for voice- synths for PD. For a Project i would like to have a synthesized singing voice. VOSIM is the name of a very basic algorithm for formant synthesis. I posted an abstraction which does classical VOSIM a while ago called vosim~.pd. To make it sing or speak, some more work is needed, Would you mind posting it again ??? Well, i dont want it to really sing, i would just like to have some human-like - sounds..that are synthesized ... lets say vocaloid-formant sounds i tried flite, but thats to much spoken for my needs however, and you may be better of with some of the readymade speech synthesis objects by Bryan. Yes i saw that vosim patch mentioned, but i think it is not accessible anymore in the pd-archive... Concerning [paf~], the readme tells that it is a Percussion Detector ?? Which README?? CVS-externals/by-author/tgrill/pd/extra/paf~ contents: Paf is copyright (C) 1999 Miller Puckette. Permission is granted to use this software for any purpose, commercial or noncommercial, as long as this notice is included with all copies. NEITHER THE AUTHORS NOR THEIR EMPLOYERS MAKE ANY WARRANTY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS SOFTWARE! This is the README file for the paf percussion detector. This software is available from http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp as part of the toys library. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- have a nice day... bye paf~ as I know it it also a formant synthesis object (PAF for phase-aligned formants). For patent reasons it's not part of Pd ATM. It will probably come back when the patent expires (in 2010?). Check Miller's book for a description of the algorithm and a slightly limited implementation as an abstraction is part of the docs. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] VOSIM - Voice Synth and similar
Hi List... I came across that email, when i searched the archive list for voice- synths for PD. For a Project i would like to have a synthesized singing voice. Any Suggestions, which Patch, External or other implementation to look for ?? Actually Perry Cooks Spasm seems to be the most complete - correct me if i am wrong... Somewhere i read that there was a PD-Patch planned, but i guess it was never made public. Concerning [paf~], the readme tells that it is a Percussion Detector ?? Thanks, Luigi vosim, chant, spasm, and Perry Cooks new thing that follows lip positions, and in Pd there if [paf~], and if you can't find it for any reason I have the source. andy On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:36:07 + josue moreno josuemoreno1 at hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, can anyone tell me if there is some software for simulate singing voices? It can be cool if there is a spanish oriented one my OS is Mac OS X 10.4.8 ppc thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion
Hi List I am a bit stuck with my ongoing experiments. What i am trying to do is to send acceleration (xyz or pry) data from the wii/osculator to pd/pmpd to have it visualized with some masses generated with pmpd. I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to move a mass. The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and not absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir- sensor bar. I am missing a mathematical trick there, any suggestions or hints for further reading. I was working with the mapping-abstractions, which are - as it seems - for any type of conversion. Thans very much Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] reading suggestions for wii/sensor data conversion
Hi List I am a bit stuck with my ongoing experiments. What i am trying to do is to send acceleration (xyz or pry) data from the wii/osculator to pd/pmpd to have it visualized with some masses generated with pmpd. I would liek to simply generate some force in the x or -x dirction to move a mass. The data i get from the wii is i guess already accelleration and not absolute position, since i would liek to avoid using the ir- sensor bar. I am missing a mathematical trick there, any suggestions or hints for further reading. I was working with the mapping-abstractions, which are - as it seems - for any type of conversion. Thans very much Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Hexloader on Mac/Intel was Re: mtx_* and similar on OS X
Hi, thanks for your response... i manages to get mtx_~ running by loading mtx_mul~first... i was just wondering, about the hexloader external.. i read in the archice that there were some issues, taht it didnt work any more in more recet releases does it work with pd 41-4 on a macbook ? I couldnt find it in svn quite strange thanks luigi Am 31.03.2008 um 01:51 schrieb marius schebella: I am not 100% sure, but i think you need a library called hexloader to load these objects. (should load on startup with pd-extended. then mtx_* will know that it has to load äh... I think you can also try mtx_mul. marius. Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List i can imagine this was asked before.. i am on OSX and i was trying to go through pdmtl-abstractions i cam across the mtx_* object which cannot be loaded...because it appears as somethin like - --- how do i know which one is which this question might concern many other libs i guess... even ~ or something might not load because of a similar issue bye Luigi - --- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mtx_* and similar on OS X
Hi List i can imagine this was asked before.. i am on OSX and i was trying to go through pdmtl-abstractions i cam across the mtx_* object which cannot be loaded...because it appears as somethin like mtx_strange.png Description: application/applefile inline: mtx_strange.png how do i know which one is which this question might concern many other libs i guess... even ~ or something might not load because of a similar issue bye Luigi___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sc4pd binary for intel ?
Oh not very uplifting...is the PD-community on its declien ;-) So i ask againthere is a gap between developers and users ;-) Please anybody who has flext running on an intel mac... Do us ( - the regular user-crowd) a big favour, try to compile sc4pd and post it somewhere Is it only me who would be thankful for that ?? I guess not Thanks crowd Luigi Am 26.03.2008 um 17:40 schrieb marius schebella: no, I just tried to compile it, but got an error. Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Hi List... Does anybody have sc4pd compiled for intel mac. I feel scared thinking to go through flext installation and compilation on may macbook. I would say you are right about that, people will always tell you that it is easy, but what they mean is: search the web for an hour and find all documentation, download sourcecode from svn, read documentation about how to compile, post error messages that you get (because that is what usually is happening with things that are not compiled yet...) then wait for help, try again, post again, wait again... usually frustration gets bigger with every time and you give up. but actually in this case, the flext part is easy. (well...) marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sc4pd binary for intel ?
Hi List... Does anybody have sc4pd compiled for intel mac. I feel scared thinking to go through flext installation and compilation on may macbook. Would be great Bye Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sc4pd binary for intel ?
Hi List... Does anybody have sc4pd compiled for intel mac. I feel scared thinking to go through flext installation and compilation on may macbook. Would be great Bye Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] msd binaries mac intel anywhere ??
Hi List, happy easter... I was going through the mapping-abstractions and when i tried to run anything with pm--blabla... i realized that msd seems to be broken, or not compiled for intel-mac looks like Nikolas' Site is down... So does anyone have msd copiled for mac-Intel or a Link ??? Thanks Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Miller's PD-Guitar Workshop LAC 2008
Hi List, Hi Miller i was at Miller's Workshop in Cologne for the LAC 2008. For those wo were not there: It was about a new approach for guitar-synthesis within PD and the setup was a divided-pickup from Roland, a 6 channel preamplifier (selfmade) and some new patches in PD. I am trying to get some more information about which Pickup was used by Miller (was it the GK-3 ??) Miller mentioned, that there might be a amplifier available in 6 months or so (did someone write down the name of the person who is going to build and sell it ?) Is there any Web-page with more information about it ?? I remember that some guys attending mentioned that there might be a different way to amplify the signal from the pickup so that it can be fed to a line-input of any soundcard.. Any Suggestions would be appreciated Have a nice day Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fun with Lua coroutines
Hi List... I would be interested to know as well ;-) Back on the list ;-) What could pdlua be good for ? Or better asked - and i would appreciate an answer for non-nerds - what reason could there be for using another extension language within pd ?? For what kind of problems ? What is the difference to for examples python, or writing a specifi external ??? I am just curiousif it is something worth learning for me bye.have a good time Luigi Am 30.10.2007 um 23:26 schrieb Mike McGonagle: Hum, exactly where on goto10 is the stuff for pdlua? I looked and there doesn't seem to be an obvious link. Thanks, Mike On 10/30/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ah, Lua is so much fun. Attached is some coroutine scheduling to create lots of bullets as an excercise for the bullet hell Ikaruga-style shmup I'm going to write for Pd/Gem in 2008. Or maybe not. Anyway, pdlua required, get it from goto10.org Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. -- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) Give Peace a Chance -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980) Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician If you think you can, or you think you can't, you are probably right. —Mark Twain Art may imitate life, but life imitates TV. Ani DiFranco ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] metastudio released - trying to test
Am 25.10.2007 um 01:29 schrieb Ed Kelly: no idea what's going on. It's fairly complex. It uses only 17% cpu for the pd process but the gui uses something about 95%. Ah. I'm so bad at documenting my projects, but I'm insanely busy right now with teaching. Believe me - I'm quite profoundly behind with many things, but will get around to writing proper help files at some point. And yes, the gui. I needed to get to this point because I'd really like a more efficient gui, but my solution will be for now to make versions that are gui-less as well. The gui is only needed for composing the patterns and stuff - in performance it's not necessary. So - perhaps 0.2 will have this feature. I had to get 0.1 finished first. Wouldn't it be nice to switch the gui on and off at will? Now there's a thought. Best, Ed Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Hi Ed, i would like to try out what metastudio actually is and does ;-) the demopatches open fine..but then ??? Do i have to load some etxtfiles ??? i really cannot see how i should get sound out of it...could you help ?ß Thanks Luigi___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
