Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:07 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > >> From: Jonathan Wilkes >> Subject: Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX >> Date: October 22, 2013 1:14:41 PM EDT >> To: pd-list@iem.at >>

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/22/2013 05:34 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: I'm not going to argue OS politics, again use what works best for you. I can understand the frustration with how the build system works on OSX. It is actually really nice in a lot of ways but it took me a while to get the hang of it after switching from

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Simon Wise
On 23/10/13 05:12, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Debian supports PPC, no? Anyone know how it does on the old machines? I suppose since Pd is in the repos one could say it still supports PPC. :) I don't think their main ppc target is Apples now, and the Open Firmware boot system is very old, I think

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
I'm not going to argue OS politics, again use what works best for you. I can understand the frustration with how the build system works on OSX. It is actually really nice in a lot of ways but it took me a while to get the hang of it after switching from Linux. Without counting Debian, I still t

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/22/2013 02:52 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:07 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at <mailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at> wrote: *From:*Jonathan Wilkes mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com>> *Subject:**Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX* *Date:*October 22, 2013 1:14:41 PM EDT *To:*pd

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
sharing. Best, Jonathan - Original Message - From: Martin Peach To: Jonathan Wilkes ; pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX On 2013-10-22 13:14, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> Errr. Tha

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:07 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > From: Jonathan Wilkes > Subject: Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX > Date: October 22, 2013 1:14:41 PM EDT > To: pd-list@iem.at > > On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> Errr. That's not so easy

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Martin Peach
On 2013-10-22 13:14, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Errr. That's not so easy. You need the 10.5 SDK which you can only get with a *really* old version of Xcode which you probably can't install on anything newer than OSX 10.6. It's possible to put older SDK's the

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
once sleek and sexy devices are ignored along with their now ugly, unprofitable devices. -Jonathan On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at <mailto:pd-list-requ...@iem.at> wrote: *From:*Jonathan Wilkes mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com>> *Subject:**Re: [PD] Building externals on

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette
True... I tried recompilnig wth LLVM to see what I was missing out on and didn't see any significant performance difference. And the less I'm using of anyone's SDK the happier I am because they always just change again later anyway :) M On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:05:46PM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Dan Wilcox
Except that that old version of Xcode/gcc doesn't have all the nice SDK stuff in the newer versions of OSX nor any of the optimizations performed by llvm ... On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > THat agrees with my experience I compile Pd vanlla on a 32-bit > machine runni

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette
IMHO, at this point, it's best to drop support for PPC for new versions of > pd. The *vast vast vast* majority of OSX users have moved on at this point. > > On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > > > From: Jonathan Wilkes > > Subje

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Dan Wilcox
ave moved on at this point. On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > From: Jonathan Wilkes > Subject: Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX > Date: October 21, 2013 4:20:55 PM EDT > To: pd-list@iem.at > > > On 10/21/2013 02:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wro

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/21/2013 02:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That sounds like you're building pd/extra from Pd-vanilla. I never had any luck with that build system. That's part of the reason why I ripped out extra from Pd-extended and made it a standalone library. It was much easier to make it work t

Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That sounds like you're building pd/extra from Pd-vanilla. I never had any luck with that build system. That's part of the reason why I ripped out extra from Pd-extended and made it a standalone library. It was much easier to make it work that way. .hc On 10/10/2013 01:08 PM, Jonathan Wilkes

[PD] Building externals on OSX

2013-10-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi list, Another roadblock: When I compile the externals in "extra" and try to create them I get an error to the Pd console: load_object: Symbol "choice_setup" not found In the "choice" directory there is a choice.d_fat and a choice.pd_darwin. nm choice/choice.d_fat shows a line with this: