Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread marius schebella
Fernando Gadea wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2007/11/android_opensource So the licence is Apache... is it still open source? apache licence is similar to the BSD or MIT. but it is more verbose and writes out the rightsthat are granted, whereas BSD and MIT are rather vague. it a

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/ but there are binary blobs and apps in Android that are very much not open source. .hc On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2007/11/android_opensource So the licence is Apache... is it still

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Fernando Gadea
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Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Tables work on PDa, but they use milliseconds instead of samples as the index. Pd-vanilla needs a CPU with a floating point unit, which most embedded systems don't have . .hc On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:56 PM, glerm soares wrote: Talking about "free hardware": Did anybody try beagleboard? h

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread glerm soares
Talking about "free hardware": Did anybody try beagleboard? http://beagleboard.org/ Some people are runing maemo on it. Seems that something about it is "creative commons",is that the hardware schemes like arduino licence? Does anyone know another arm based project like that? And about PDa - Do

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread martin brinkmann
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: as far as i have heard, rjdj is currently ported to android. >>> >>> But not released, and likely not free. >> >> probably "free as in beer" only, but i hope it does not take too >> long until it is released. > > AFAIK, they wanted to keep the core rjdj app a fr

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 3:19 PM, martin brinkmann wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: as far as i have heard, rjdj is currently ported to android. But not released, and likely not free. probably "free as in beer" only, but i hope it does not take too long until it is released. AFAIK, they

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread martin brinkmann
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> as far as i have heard, rjdj is currently ported to android. > > But not released, and likely not free. probably "free as in beer" only, but i hope it does not take too long until it is released. > What's non-free about Maemo? I use a Maemo device daily and as

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Matthew Logan
Speaking of which, does anyone have any issues with installing gp2xPd? I can't get this thing to work. I'm on Firmware 3.0.0, on the F100(B). I put the python folder from the pygame package on my sd root per the instructions on Chris McCormick's site. I put the gp2xPd folder in my sd/games fol

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Georg Holzmann
Wow, thanks for these tipps ... didn't know that someone already did it. I will maybe look into it after becoming a bit more familiar with this platform - would be really nice to have pd on it ! LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Just getting Pd on the Android phone would be easy, esp

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just getting Pd on the Android phone would be easy, especially if you have rooted it. Basically, Pd-vanilla should build and run fine on Android with some minor tweaks for Android-specific macros. The only tricky part is that Pd can't use Android's ALSA, it must use the Java audio API v

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I just got an android phone (linux) and was actually quite impressed. It is very user-friendly and there are also good development tools (I did not program something so far, but I will ...) However, I don't know how easy it is to port PD to android phones. The general platform is in ja

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:03 PM, martin brinkmann wrote: Otto Maddox wrote: Maybe it's just because I'm new to the world of mobile computing and have missed something, but I couldn't find a single mobile hardware/software platform which is properly Free/open from top to bottom (i.e., friendly to

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread martin brinkmann
Otto Maddox wrote: > Maybe it's just because I'm new to the world of mobile computing and > have missed something, but I couldn't find a single mobile > hardware/software platform which is properly Free/open from top to > bottom (i.e., friendly to people who don't mind getting their hands > dirty)

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Without a lot of work, Pd-vanilla (or even Pd-extended) would run on Android. We know what to do, it just needs someone to do it :) PDa runs already on Nokia Maemo, OpenMoko, Zaurus, Familiar, and the Re- ware images that we put out for Palms and old iPods. The re-ware project was taki

Re: [PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Michal Seta
Hi Otto, Do you know about openmoko? http://www.openmoko.com http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page I do not have any experience with it but it has been in existence for a while now and I would hope it actually functional by now. In any case, it meets your desire for open, top to bottom (and ba

[PD] Free/open mobile platform for Pd?

2009-10-12 Thread Otto Maddox
Recently I looked at RjDj and was well impressed. Now I want to get a mobile device on which to run Pd to do similar things. An iPhone is out of the question because it's such a closed and locked up platform. I started looking around at other devices, but that was a bit overwhelming. Maybe it's ju