On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
So where is that thing that is better than pdpedia that you guys all worked
on instead?
what thing ?
we didn't "all work on" anything.
the group in France decided to go do something else that is not a
replacement for pdpedia.
the authors
On Jun 14, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Loic KESSOUS wrote:
I did a few contributions, but not as much as I should have done :)
I (and two other Montréalais) convinced some other French people to
not touch pdpedia and just move on to something worth the t
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Loic KESSOUS wrote:
Le 14 juin 2010 à 12:53, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
you need to revise your criteria for what constitutes an object
reference documentation and/or what is the meaning of "closest thing".
well, I meant, compared to FLOSS or the free online book "Programm
Le 14 juin 2010 à 12:53, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Loic KESSOUS wrote:
>
>> I did a few contributions, but not as much as I should have done :)
>
> I (and two other Montréalais) convinced some other French people to not touch
> pdpedia and just move on to something wort
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Loic KESSOUS wrote:
I did a few contributions, but not as much as I should have done :)
I (and two other Montréalais) convinced some other French people to not
touch pdpedia and just move on to something worth the time. Here are some
links to some elaborate mails about i
Le 13 juin 2010 à 21:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
>
> pdpedia is definitely searchable, just like wikipedia.
yes, of course. but you need to be connected to the internet, you can't just
have the one file ( or several) on your computer, except if you download a copy
of the whole site
pdpedia is definitely searchable, just like wikipedia. I search it
often. I think some of the pdpedia content has fed to the FLOSS
Manuals Pure Data book, if not other things.
.hc
On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Loic KESSOUS wrote:
pdpedia is for me the closest thing to an object reference
pdpedia is for me the closest thing to an object reference documentation.
But it's like one searchable file, like was (is? ) for example the max
reference manual pdf.
pdpedia need to be updated, some stuff is missing, I did a few contributions,
but not as much as I should have done :) .
I wonder
ha! well said indeed! So that's what happened... Hans says years later.
.hc
On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
I have to say that 90% of the work I've contributed to Pd and the
FLOSS Manual has been motivated by a frustration with the current
state of affairs. That's how free
Am 08.06.2010 um 05:04 schrieb Funs Seelen:
> To give you a second opinion: Kreidler's work is brilliant to me. It's a
> book which has been printed (german) as well as put on the web (both german
> and an english translation).
small correction: actually it's the other way round, the printed bo
Could be. I'll have a look at it -- thanks for the link. In general,
> however, I would suggest that a website-based multi-page manual is always a
> bad idea, for two reasons: First, because it's not searchable. Second,
> because it's an invitation to the author to jumble things up and leave some
>
the FLOSS manual by telling people not to read
Miller's manual.
-Jonathan
From: Derek Holzer
To: pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 12:53:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Where is the object reference documentation?
Get involved in the FLOSS Manual?
D.
On 6/7/10 8
This is the exact goal of the FLOSS Manual. The site allows a PDF to be
generated from the current status of the manual. I've been encouraging
people not to reply solely on the images and patches, but to describe
things in text as well in order to ensure its searchability.
One caveat, however,
On 6/7/2010 2:00 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Jim Aikin wrote:
I think that would probably be the way to go with Pd documentation as
well -- some sort of handbook that gives users step-by-step
instructions on all of the basic things they will need or want to do
when gett
On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Jim Aikin wrote:
> I think that would probably be the way to go with Pd documentation as well --
> some sort of handbook that gives users step-by-step instructions on all of
> the basic things they will need or want to do when getting started. Once
> they're up and
Get involved in the FLOSS Manual?
D.
On 6/7/10 8:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
How exactly would one "start to work" on the Pd Manual?
More specifically:
What is the process by which a new, professionally written manual
replaces the old, error-ridden manual?
--
::: derek holzer ::: http://mac
On 6/7/2010 11:36 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
How exactly would one "start to work" on the Pd Manual?
More specifically:
What is the process by which a new, professionally written manual
replaces the old, error-ridden manual?
"Replaces" is perhaps not quite the right word. Last year I wrote an
On 6/7/2010 1:13 AM, mark hadman wrote:
On a blank canvas, Right Click -> Help gets you a list of all vanilla
objects. (This works on pure:dyne's version of pd, anyway...)
Fantastic. Thanks! That will help a lot.
--JA
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On 6/7/2010 2:55 AM, João Pais wrote:
further than that, there's this list, and also the pd chat. If you're
a professional, your help and insight could be very useful for the pd
community, in case you want/can get involved. with this kind of
projects, if you don't like something, *you* can ma
t@iem.at"
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 1:35:46 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Where is the object reference documentation?
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010, Jim Aikin wrote:
> But then, I'm a professional writer. I have standards for how documentation
> ought to be written.
Then congratulations, you
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Funs Seelen wrote:
As far as it concerns standards for documentation and especially coding,
have a look at the pd-dev list.
It's not essential to have pd-dev. It's basically a tiny list flooded by
sourceforge notices. Comparatively very little stuff gets discussed on
pd-d
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010, Jim Aikin wrote:
But then, I'm a professional writer. I have standards for how documentation
ought to be written.
Then congratulations, you may start to work on the manual.
_ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Qué
I have to say that 90% of the work I've contributed to Pd and the FLOSS
Manual has been motivated by a frustration with the current state of
affairs. That's how free-software projects trick you into pouring your
life away into them ;-)
D.
On 6/7/10 11:55 AM, João Pais wrote:
further than th
being the one who wrote that object list in floss, I can say that a
complete list doesn't exist - objects get added each day to svn, and
there's no "submission comitee" or any process that checks for the quality
of the documentation (or even the quality of the object).
if you're using pd-vani
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 08:05:23PM -0700, Jim Aikin wrote:
> Now that I have real-time MIDI working, I'm eager to start putting
> together the patch I need. But ... where is the documentation that
> lists the available objects? Once I know what object I want, I can
> create it and then right-click
On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:33 AM, Jim Aikin wrote:
> On 6/6/2010 8:42 PM, Funs Seelen wrote:
>> Typing "pure data object list" in google leads you straight to the
>> flossmanual, which contains useful documentation about pd (and other
>> Free-Licensed-Open-Source-Software), including object-lists. Fo
As far as it concerns standards for documentation and especially coding,
have a look at the pd-dev list. If you have experience with writing you can
propose solutions there I guess. Also there have been threads about good
documentation within this pd-list. I remember a discussion about help-files
w
On 6/6/2010 8:42 PM, Funs Seelen wrote:
Typing "pure data object list" in google leads you straight to the
flossmanual, which contains useful documentation about pd (and other
Free-Licensed-Open-Source-Software), including object-lists. For not
all existing libraries are in pd-extended probably
Typing "pure data object list" in google leads you straight to the
flossmanual, which contains useful documentation about pd (and other
Free-Licensed-Open-Source-Software), including object-lists. For not all
existing libraries are in pd-extended probably not all existing objects will
show up on th
Now that I have real-time MIDI working, I'm eager to start putting
together the patch I need. But ... where is the documentation that lists
the available objects? Once I know what object I want, I can create it
and then right-click on it to open an information window for that type
of object. Bu
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