Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
if anyone wants to work on this: https://github.com/patricksebastien/loopStationPD fork & pull request ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
Yes I would like to have a solution within PD. The Meh patch is very very nice, but I am not sure how cross-fading and quantization is implemented (will try to contact the author). Will take a look at ipoke~. Will put my patch on github, maybe someone will want to join me in making a loop station in pd... Roman about quantization for audio, right now my patch doesn't time stretch, only making sure that the loops are in perfect sync even if you stop the looping too early or too late. Sooperlooper documentation on syncing: http://essej.net/sooperlooper/doc_sync.html à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm > trying to mimic SooperLooper I guess you want to stick with pure pd if you are avoiding the SooperLooper app, but a half-way point might be to use the old SooperLooper ladspa plugin, whose source includes pd patches to get up and running. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
re: a loop station patch, just thought i'd point you to this: http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=40358 and this: http://mariomey.com.ar/wp/meh-system/ . looks like a good base to expand upon and get exactly what you need. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:31 AM, wrote: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list@iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: patch wanted: loop station (Julian Brooks) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:30:33 + > From: Julian Brooks > Subject: Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station > To: Will - > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" > Message-ID: > < > cagembfrt9mgpvnqiikiycsje7ycy96gub4bvk8pwsvg3rq8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Meant to add the link too: > http://puredata.info/Members/ipoke/ipoke_v.3_test1.zip/view > > > On 27 March 2014 11:29, Julian Brooks wrote: > > > As Katja mentions on the hurleur post you may also find that [ipoke] > could > > well be your friend here. > > > > > > On 27 March 2014 10:39, Will - wrote: > > > >> This one at least solves the start/end glitch and it's a really solid > >> looper, could be a good place to start: > >> http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5021-sound-sound-looper-clear-option > >> > >> If you want quantisation then maybe the recording part should somehow > >> fill a sequence of arrays with what you want to quantise (e.g. > transients > >> above a certain threshold) and what's in between, rather than a single > one > >> that you have sort out after somehow? > >> > >> Would like to see a solid loop station in PD too! > >> > >> _Will > >> goo.gl/4mfvSZ > >> > >> > From: pd-list-requ...@iem.at > >> > Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 108, Issue 112 > >> > To: pd-list@iem.at > >> > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:40:30 +0100 > >> > > >> > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > >> > pd-list@iem.at > >> > > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > >> > > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at > >> > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > >> > > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > >> > > >> > > >> > Today's Topics: > >> > > >> > 1. Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking patch to > >> > boot pd (Julian Brooks) > >> > 2. patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) > >> > 3. Re: patch wanted: loop station (Ed Kelly) > >> > 4. Patching Circle at CRASH Space Los Angeles April 6th > >> > (Theron Trowbridge) > >> > 5. Re: patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Message: 1 > >> > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:40:33 + > >> > From: Julian Brooks > >> > Subject: [PD] Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking > >> > patch to boot pd > >> > To: PD List > >> > Message-ID: > >> > > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Not sure if this is one of those 'just me' moments. > >> > > >> > Been opening and closing lots of patches last couple of days. > >> > Noticed that on most recent vanilla on debian 64b (xfce if it matters) > >> that > >> > when double clicking a patch to open pd, pd opens but the patch > doesn't. > >> > Interestingly when you then go to op
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
Meant to add the link too: http://puredata.info/Members/ipoke/ipoke_v.3_test1.zip/view On 27 March 2014 11:29, Julian Brooks wrote: > As Katja mentions on the hurleur post you may also find that [ipoke] could > well be your friend here. > > > On 27 March 2014 10:39, Will - wrote: > >> This one at least solves the start/end glitch and it's a really solid >> looper, could be a good place to start: >> http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5021-sound-sound-looper-clear-option >> >> If you want quantisation then maybe the recording part should somehow >> fill a sequence of arrays with what you want to quantise (e.g. transients >> above a certain threshold) and what's in between, rather than a single one >> that you have sort out after somehow? >> >> Would like to see a solid loop station in PD too! >> >> _Will >> goo.gl/4mfvSZ >> >> > From: pd-list-requ...@iem.at >> > Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 108, Issue 112 >> > To: pd-list@iem.at >> > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:40:30 +0100 >> > >> > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to >> > pd-list@iem.at >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > pd-list-requ...@iem.at >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > pd-list-ow...@iem.at >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking patch to >> > boot pd (Julian Brooks) >> > 2. patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) >> > 3. Re: patch wanted: loop station (Ed Kelly) >> > 4. Patching Circle at CRASH Space Los Angeles April 6th >> > (Theron Trowbridge) >> > 5. Re: patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:40:33 + >> > From: Julian Brooks >> > Subject: [PD] Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking >> > patch to boot pd >> > To: PD List >> > Message-ID: >> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Not sure if this is one of those 'just me' moments. >> > >> > Been opening and closing lots of patches last couple of days. >> > Noticed that on most recent vanilla on debian 64b (xfce if it matters) >> that >> > when double clicking a patch to open pd, pd opens but the patch doesn't. >> > Interestingly when you then go to open (ctl-o or whatever) said patch, >> the >> > dialogue box opens in the correct folder. >> > >> > Not a biggie but it's there. >> > >> > Anyone else on that behaviour? >> > >> > Jb >> > -- next part -- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: < >> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20140326/ed9bb522/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 01:18:30 -0400 >> > From: pured...@11h11.com >> > Subject: [PD] patch wanted: loop station >> > To: pd-list >> > Message-ID: >> > <20140327011830.horde.mfckx3mx7yrtm7smflyi...@courrier.privatedns.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes >> >> > >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm >> > trying to mimic SooperLooper, that is: >> > >> > - multiple sync options >> > - multiple quantize options >> > + something i am not sure SooperLooper do: cross-fading begin/end of >> > loop to avoid glitches. >> > >> > I have code a patch, but it is very messy (1 abstraction for master, x >> > abstractions for slaves). I am using xrecord & xgroove (for >> > crossing-fading start / end). The patch is kind of working but I am >> > getting glitches when starting and stopping the recording (I think it >> > was okay when using a bigger jack
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
As Katja mentions on the hurleur post you may also find that [ipoke] could well be your friend here. On 27 March 2014 10:39, Will - wrote: > This one at least solves the start/end glitch and it's a really solid > looper, could be a good place to start: > http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5021-sound-sound-looper-clear-option > > If you want quantisation then maybe the recording part should somehow fill > a sequence of arrays with what you want to quantise (e.g. transients above > a certain threshold) and what's in between, rather than a single one that > you have sort out after somehow? > > Would like to see a solid loop station in PD too! > > _Will > goo.gl/4mfvSZ > > > From: pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 108, Issue 112 > > To: pd-list@iem.at > > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:40:30 +0100 > > > > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > > pd-list@iem.at > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking patch to > > boot pd (Julian Brooks) > > 2. patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) > > 3. Re: patch wanted: loop station (Ed Kelly) > > 4. Patching Circle at CRASH Space Los Angeles April 6th > > (Theron Trowbridge) > > 5. Re: patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:40:33 + > > From: Julian Brooks > > Subject: [PD] Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking > > patch to boot pd > > To: PD List > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi all, > > > > Not sure if this is one of those 'just me' moments. > > > > Been opening and closing lots of patches last couple of days. > > Noticed that on most recent vanilla on debian 64b (xfce if it matters) > that > > when double clicking a patch to open pd, pd opens but the patch doesn't. > > Interestingly when you then go to open (ctl-o or whatever) said patch, > the > > dialogue box opens in the correct folder. > > > > Not a biggie but it's there. > > > > Anyone else on that behaviour? > > > > Jb > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20140326/ed9bb522/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 01:18:30 -0400 > > From: pured...@11h11.com > > Subject: [PD] patch wanted: loop station > > To: pd-list > > Message-ID: > > <20140327011830.horde.mfckx3mx7yrtm7smflyi...@courrier.privatedns.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm > > trying to mimic SooperLooper, that is: > > > > - multiple sync options > > - multiple quantize options > > + something i am not sure SooperLooper do: cross-fading begin/end of > > loop to avoid glitches. > > > > I have code a patch, but it is very messy (1 abstraction for master, x > > abstractions for slaves). I am using xrecord & xgroove (for > > crossing-fading start / end). The patch is kind of working but I am > > getting glitches when starting and stopping the recording (I think it > > was okay when using a bigger jack buffer - (I am now at 64...)). > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:45:24 + (GMT) > > From: Ed Kelly > > Subject: Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station > > To: "pured...@11h11.com" , pd-list > > > > Message-ID: > > <1395873924.64198.yahoomail...@web172705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > The way to deal
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
hello roman, there are several ways to sync audio loops, in most methods we try to read audio samples in a way that they are in sync by changing read speed or chunk size, or stretching it with fft, or by making slices with bonk~'s attack detection. The last methods allows to quantize sound by forcing a slice to be played on a timecode which is given by the size of the loop divided into sixteenthes, something like this, each slice could eventually be stretched to fit the timecode. Le 27/03/2014 08:14, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 05:09 -0400, pured...@11h11.com wrote: Not sure exactly what is making the click / glitch in my patches. I think the fact that I bring down the jack buffer to 64 didn't help... but I cannot be sure. I am still looking the archive / search engine to find a loop station in pd, but so far I found only basic implementation (no sync, no quantize, no cross-fade). I don't know the loop station. Can you elaborate a bit how quantize and sync work on? I think I understand how quantization works with MIDI, but with audio? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
This one at least solves the start/end glitch and it's a really solid looper, could be a good place to start:http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5021-sound-sound-looper-clear-option If you want quantisation then maybe the recording part should somehow fill a sequence of arrays with what you want to quantise (e.g. transients above a certain threshold) and what's in between, rather than a single one that you have sort out after somehow? Would like to see a solid loop station in PD too! _Willgoo.gl/4mfvSZ > From: pd-list-requ...@iem.at > Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 108, Issue 112 > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:40:30 +0100 > > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list@iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking patch to > boot pd (Julian Brooks) >2. patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) >3. Re: patch wanted: loop station (Ed Kelly) >4. Patching Circle at CRASH Space Los Angeles April 6th > (Theron Trowbridge) >5. Re: patch wanted: loop station (pured...@11h11.com) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:40:33 + > From: Julian Brooks > Subject: [PD] Possible bug in vanilla 0.45.4 when double clicking > patch toboot pd > To: PD List > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > Not sure if this is one of those 'just me' moments. > > Been opening and closing lots of patches last couple of days. > Noticed that on most recent vanilla on debian 64b (xfce if it matters) that > when double clicking a patch to open pd, pd opens but the patch doesn't. > Interestingly when you then go to open (ctl-o or whatever) said patch, the > dialogue box opens in the correct folder. > > Not a biggie but it's there. > > Anyone else on that behaviour? > > Jb > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20140326/ed9bb522/attachment-0001.htm> > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 01:18:30 -0400 > From: pured...@11h11.com > Subject: [PD] patch wanted: loop station > To: pd-list > Message-ID: > <20140327011830.horde.mfckx3mx7yrtm7smflyi...@courrier.privatedns.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes > > Hi everyone, > > I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm > trying to mimic SooperLooper, that is: > > - multiple sync options > - multiple quantize options > + something i am not sure SooperLooper do: cross-fading begin/end of > loop to avoid glitches. > > I have code a patch, but it is very messy (1 abstraction for master, x > abstractions for slaves). I am using xrecord & xgroove (for > crossing-fading start / end). The patch is kind of working but I am > getting glitches when starting and stopping the recording (I think it > was okay when using a bigger jack buffer - (I am now at 64...)). > > Thanks! > > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:45:24 + (GMT) > From: Ed Kelly > Subject: Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station > To: "pured...@11h11.com" , pd-list > > Message-ID: > <1395873924.64198.yahoomail...@web172705.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The way to deal with this in real-time is to fade in for a short period at > the start, and fade out at the end. In order for that to respond in real > time, I've found a good way is to delay the audio stream by a tiny value > (e.g. 5ms) then fade the audio at 5ms - 1 audio block (about 1.46ms). That > way, when you hit "stop" on the sample playback object (e.g. tabread4~ or > xgroove~) the audio stops, but the 5ms delay means that the fadeout starting > at that moment will happen before the audio you hear stops (because it is > delayed by 5ms). > > I hope that makes sense. Patch enclosed! > Ed > ? > Nin
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
NOt quite what you're after but Katja's SliceJockey is my favourite looping code for Pd http://www.katjaas.nl/slicejockey/slicejockey.html Certainly worth checking how she's done it. Yeah sooperlooper, I used to make use of that before Pd. It's good stuff. Jb On 27 March 2014 07:14, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 05:09 -0400, pured...@11h11.com wrote: > > Not sure exactly what is making the click / glitch in my patches. I > > think the fact that I bring down the jack buffer to 64 didn't help... > > but I cannot be sure. > > > > I am still looking the archive / search engine to find a loop station > > in pd, but so far I found only basic implementation (no sync, no > > quantize, no cross-fade). > > I don't know the loop station. Can you elaborate a bit how quantize and > sync work on? I think I understand how quantization works with MIDI, but > with audio? > > Roman > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 05:09 -0400, pured...@11h11.com wrote: > Not sure exactly what is making the click / glitch in my patches. I > think the fact that I bring down the jack buffer to 64 didn't help... > but I cannot be sure. > > I am still looking the archive / search engine to find a loop station > in pd, but so far I found only basic implementation (no sync, no > quantize, no cross-fade). I don't know the loop station. Can you elaborate a bit how quantize and sync work on? I think I understand how quantization works with MIDI, but with audio? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patch wanted: loop station
The way to deal with this in real-time is to fade in for a short period at the start, and fade out at the end. In order for that to respond in real time, I've found a good way is to delay the audio stream by a tiny value (e.g. 5ms) then fade the audio at 5ms - 1 audio block (about 1.46ms). That way, when you hit "stop" on the sample playback object (e.g. tabread4~ or xgroove~) the audio stops, but the 5ms delay means that the fadeout starting at that moment will happen before the audio you hear stops (because it is delayed by 5ms). I hope that makes sense. Patch enclosed! Ed Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad http://www.ninjajamm.com/ Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 21:52, "pured...@11h11.com" wrote: Hi everyone, > >I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm >trying to mimic SooperLooper, that is: > >- multiple sync options >- multiple quantize options >+ something i am not sure SooperLooper do: cross-fading begin/end of >loop to avoid glitches. > >I have code a patch, but it is very messy (1 abstraction for master, x >abstractions for slaves). I am using xrecord & xgroove (for >crossing-fading start / end). The patch is kind of working but I am >getting glitches when starting and stopping the recording (I think it >was okay when using a bigger jack buffer - (I am now at 64...)). > >Thanks! > > >___ >Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >#N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 66 90 inlet~; #X obj 65 128 delwrite~ \$0-buf 5; #X obj 65 152 delread~ \$0-buf 5; #X obj 64 192 *~; #X obj 63 227 outlet~; #X obj 209 141 inlet; #X text 210 121 Start = 1 \, Stop = 0; #X obj 209 165 pack f 3.5; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] patch wanted: loop station
Hi everyone, I'm struggling at making my own loop station solution inside pd. I'm trying to mimic SooperLooper, that is: - multiple sync options - multiple quantize options + something i am not sure SooperLooper do: cross-fading begin/end of loop to avoid glitches. I have code a patch, but it is very messy (1 abstraction for master, x abstractions for slaves). I am using xrecord & xgroove (for crossing-fading start / end). The patch is kind of working but I am getting glitches when starting and stopping the recording (I think it was okay when using a bigger jack buffer - (I am now at 64...)). Thanks! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
