Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-03-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-27 à 18:31:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for abstractions to have some way of accessing class-wide data-- like this: you mean something like [1]? [1]

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-03-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Le 2012-02-27 à 18:31:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2012-02

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions? [import] is

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-27 à 16:44:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:50 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import]

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Le 2012-02-27 à 16:44:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Sun, 2012

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for abstractions to have some way of accessing class-wide data-- like this: you mean something like [1]? fgmasdr IOhannes [1]

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:31 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Sorry for the obscure example, but I think it's important for abstractions to have some way of accessing class-wide data-- like this:

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-27 18:22, Jonathan Wilkes wrote

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-27 à 12:11:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Any idea what Miller's comment means by a control inlet for canvases?  It means that mysterious remarks made six years ago should be disregarded. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-27 à 12:58:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca It means that mysterious remarks made six years ago should be disregarded. But what if this mysterious control inlet could be the key that unlocks the door to Maximus P?  How long must we

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Le 2012-02-27 à 12:58:00

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
search path 0.43 OSX On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:37 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or [declare] object in the help patch. one prob I have found ... in a lib such as rtc the objects are not compiled externals

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions? [import] is not very local, is it ? But it also works with multi-class externals. See my other mail. Roman

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:37 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or [declare] object in the help patch. one prob I have found

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions? [import] is not very local, is it ? But it also works with multi-class

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-26 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions? [import] is not

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-26 à 14:11:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Where does it import symbols to ? A big global namespace. Yup, binary objects will be imported into the global namespace. Abstractions will be local though. Oh, yes, because

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-24 Thread m.e.grimm
, 2012 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in Pd so there is nothing to conform with. If it gets implemented, it will be something helpful and ugly - for a temporary period of time. Three ways come

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:37 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or [declare] object in the help patch. one prob I have found ... in a lib such as rtc the objects are not compiled externals but abstractions that rely on list-abs. how

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com To: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:37 -0500

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-24 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : In what way [import] shouldn't be used inside abstractions? [import] is not very local, is it ? As long as the constructor-table is still one big table (the method-list of the objectmaker class), you can't escape the fact that importing any

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-23 Thread András Murányi
Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in Pd so there is nothing to conform with. If it gets implemented, it will be something helpful and ugly - for a temporary period of time. Three ways come into my mind: - an alert box (modal dialog with the warning and an OK

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
-- is there a way to automate fixing these, or did you already address this issue? -Jonathan From: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Huh, afaik there has

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
this issue? -Jonathan From: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in Pd

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
From: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in Pd so there is nothing to conform

[PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Joson Android
Dear List! i love pd-extended-0.43 !! but i cannot add any search path in the prefferences. It will show my new settings right when i make changes but wont save anything. It prints ripts/../extra/mapping: no such object in the pd-window. It works in pd-extended-0.42.5 . Should there be a file

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Scott R. Looney
well, just to add my experience i think i can set search paths correctly, but i would like to add that it seems to be quite difficult to have more than one instance of PD-extended 0.43 on the computer (trying mac OS 10.6.4 w/ 32bit and 64bit builds) making it a bit challenging to check one build's

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Setting the paths and the libraries to load at start time via the preferences is deprecated in Pd-extended 0.43. The way to do this is: * for the global path, add your libraries, etc. to the built-in user path: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files * for a

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread András Murányi
Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this info shall be directly accessible from the affected dialog window. Many people may think their Pd is just broken and they might just have no idea what to do about it. Andras On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 20:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, I agree, it should be represented clearly somehow I'm open to suggestions. Its been a long time policy in Pd-extended to avoid using the preferences. Its only recently been enforced. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this