Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Wait a second. You have Pd-extended & Pd 0.47.1 both installed on the “C:\Program Files (x86)\” ? Describe your folders on “Program Files (x86)”. (1) Or tell us if you installed any of them somewhere else. Anyway you can give “write access” to your running “extra” folder & have the benefits

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Christof Ressi
basically that works too. however, it gets a bit messy once you have nested loadbangs because these will get called more than once (I don't know why). as long as you doesn't relay on loadbangs firing exactly once, this shouldn't be a big problem, though. > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Christof Ressi
[loadbang] doesn't fire in dynamically created patches. The easiest workaround: use [iemguts/initbang]. Christof     Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017 um 17:18 Uhr Von: David An: Pd-List Betreff: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Jack
Hello David, Set you message box like : ; pd-WORKSPACE clear; pd-WORKSPACE obj 20 20 loadbang-test; pd-WORKSPACE loadbang ++ Jack Le 16/02/2017 à 17:18, David a écrit : > Hi! > > I have a question about the expected behaviour of loadbang when it's > used in a sub-patch that's built

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 16:14 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > > certainly wrong for everyone. > since this

[PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread David
Hi! I have a question about the expected behaviour of loadbang when it's used in a sub-patch that's built dynamically. It appears that it isn't getting triggered. I've attached a simplified example. Should it get triggered? Does anyone know of a workaround for this? In other words, something

Re: [PD] Error opening properties dialogue of 'flatgui/knob'

2017-02-16 Thread David
Thanks to both of you. I'll give moonlib/mknob a try. But does anyone know if flatgui is still being maintained by anyone? The dll files on my system are dated 2/4/2013. Maybe there's a later version, but this is what got installed by deken. David. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Christof Ressi

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > certainly wrong for everyone. since this came up on my radar and i was pointed at http://wiki.tcl.tk/11502, i took the

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
> it seems like you are changing some random variables to achieve an > unrelated goal. Yes, Roman already knew that. I got those ceros from the non X11 settings. Very naive on my side. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > if you want to change the size of the Pd-menu, you have to look > somewhere else... it seems like that slightly too high menu on X11 is just the way tcl/tk creates menus on that platform: just run this script (using wish): set m [menu .menubar]

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Thanks for the clarification, especially for menubarsize. It all makes a bit more sense to me now. Roman On Don, 2017-02-16 at 15:18 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 14:39, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Here`s the backup: > > > > line 306 > > > > # some platforms have a

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:39 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Here`s the backup: > > line 306 > > # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them >             set ::menubarsize 0 >             # Tk handles the window placement differently on each >             # platform. With

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Here`s the backup: line 306 # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them set ::menubarsize 0 # Tk handles the window placement differently on each # platform. With X11, the x,y placement refers to the window # frame's upper left

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:57 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Or try 0 "cero" I tried negative values and zero, too: No effect. I commented out the line (pd-gui.tcl:307): set ::menubarsize 19 and there is no error nor any change in the GUI. It seems this line is obsolete. (?) Roman

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Or try 0 "cero" Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From: Pd-list on behalf of Lucas Cordiviola Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:53 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Menu bar height

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
>Is it overridden somewhere? I'm lost... could be. Recently there were mentions for negative values on pixel settings: I`m totally blind on linux. Try -10 seems negative values inhibits resizing. just to try. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:42 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Line 351 > > > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > > > ? > Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on Linux > when > editing the value for x11 window

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Line 351 > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > ? Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on Linux when editing the value for x11 window system (it is already configured to 19, but resulting height is 30px). Is it

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Line 351 set ::menubarsize 22 ? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From: Pd-list on behalf of Roman Haefeli Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject:

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:56 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Hey all > > > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different > > platforms, > > I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar > > height > > is

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:50 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu > > > without the > > user having to install it first? > > > > Yes, > > > >

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
I agree with you that the installer can handle the issue more correctly. But In my case (probably other users too) I never use the installer, I use the zip which just run. No registry keys no nothing. Also to switch from PCs, versions, various tests & and more. But I can perfectly live if the

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey all > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, > I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height > is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too > large. > > Can this be

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without the > > user having to install it first? > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html > > Do you know other method? Using C code? i already

[PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too large.  Can this be made consistent across platforms, too? Roman

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 10:09 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > >Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without > the > user having to install it first?  > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html Yes, I actually saw it, but there was some

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
>Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without the user having to install it first? Yes, https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html Do you know other method? Using C code? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 21:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 10:16 -0700, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > I went ahead and created a wiki page: https://github.com/pure-data/ > > pu > > re-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-&-comparisons > > > > You can post pictures there and