Re: [PD] saving table contents confusion

2021-04-24 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2021-04-24 15:27]: > > Any chance this could be > > improved in the GUI somehow? > The improvement is called [array define] ;-) [table] is legacy and shouldn't > be used in new projects. Thanks Christof! Still I wonder about the reasons for the different behavior described in my

[PD] Context menu depending on window focus?

2021-04-24 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, on OS X and Linux the context menu of a patch behaves differentely whether the window is focussed (foreground) or not. Selecting "Help..." for an object in an unfocussed window will open the introduction help patch regardless, selecting "Open" for a subpatch or abstraction will silently

[PD] saving table contents confusion

2021-04-24 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, Reading from its help patch I understand that [table] actually creates a graphical array inside a subpatch. The table help patch canvas-help.pd says that the table data and properties are not stored with the patch (despite a flag being available in the properties menu). This has confuse

[PD] compander-limiter from slop~-help.pd

2021-04-24 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, nice weather today, isn't it? I am trying to understand the [pd compander-limiter] example from slop~'s help patch because I need a 0dBFS brickwall limiter as abstraction without externals. When set to the "no change" parameters, the example will still saturate any signals hotter than 0

[PD] quacktrip with more than 2 channels?

2021-04-19 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, does anyone know whether one can run quacktrip with more than 2 channels of audio, either by modifying the abstractions or by using two of them side by side perhaps to permit for 4 channels? regards, Peter ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing li

Re: [PD] size and position of PD window

2021-04-14 Thread Peter P.
* oliver [2021-04-14 10:21]: > hi, dear list ! > > is there a way to change the PD-console-window's position and size with a > message form within a patch ? None known to me, but I hope the others have an idea. Nevertheless, if you are on Linux, there is ways to change the properties of X window

Re: [PD] Problem with Gem

2021-03-16 Thread Peter P.
Kosmas, just a quick reply: Which operating system are you on? Any reason you can't install Gem via the "Find externals..." function? If you are on Linux (Debian-based) try using the apt package installer to install Gem? best, P * Kosmas Giannoutakis [2021-03-17 02:39]: > Hi list, > > I instal

Re: [PD] Espeak external compilation/loading errors on Linux

2021-03-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi, list, the modified Makefile works great, thanks IOhannes and Matthias! There still seems some hickups with the object itself. Asking it to set a texbuffer and synthesize from its help-patch, it posts a longer red message to the pd console: "an operation on the array 'array1' in the patch 'esp

Re: [PD] Espeak external compilation/loading errors on Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Peter P.
rning is > treated as an error. The quickest fix is to either remove "-Werror" or add > "-Wno-cast-function-type". Which is what I did, described below in my last email, no? Thanks , P > Christof > > On 13.03.2021 10:06, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi

[PD] Espeak external compilation/loading errors on Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, trying to compile and load the espeak external from https://github.com/kronihias/espeak on Debian/GNU Linux. Have the apt packages espeak libespeak-dev installed and the makefile modifiet to point to PDROOT=/usr/include/pd Running 'make' yields an error: cc -export-dynam

Re: [PD] messy situations: writesf~ feature request

2021-03-09 Thread Peter P.
* i...@hansroels.be [2021-03-09 11:28]: > Hello, > > I think it's a problem that in 'messy' situations you don't have feedback > from writesf~ to know/see that the recording is happening. With 'messy' I > mean situations where you aren't fully concentrated on recording, for > example: simultaneou

Re: [PD] Gem: Looking for suggestions for camera / capture setup

2021-03-08 Thread Peter P.
* Max [2021-03-09 02:01]: > Hi List, > > what's a good setup for a decent framerate (50, 60 fps or even higher?) HD > live capture from Gem? Is it even possible? > > A related problem is that ideally I would like to have Gems framerate be > driven by the capturing, so that I'm sure not to have m

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-25 Thread Peter P.
* Roman Haefeli [2021-02-25 11:04]: > On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 10:56 +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: > > My 2 Cents: > > > > There is one pitfall which should be mentioned, since it happened to > > me and > > also others I wanted to teach structured Pd programming: > > > > "The order of -path stat

Re: [PD] Best practices for [declare]

2021-02-24 Thread Peter P.
* Philip Stone via Pd-list [2021-02-25 00:31]: > peterpar...@fastmail.com writes: > > >Don't know if > >https://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files > >is up to date and of help for you, but you might wanna check it and get > >back with

Re: [PD] detect dependencies from patch

2021-02-24 Thread Peter P.
* Philip Stone via Pd-list [2021-02-24 20:29]: > I have to say that I have gotten kind of lost in the discussions about > loading and declaring external libraries. I would like to embrace the current > best practices, but don’t have a solid overview of the whole. Would anybody > be willing to w

Re: [PD] pdogg windows

2021-02-23 Thread Peter P.
* Rémy Sax [2021-02-23 11:27]: > Hey there > > Is there a "pdogg" version for windows 10 (64bit)? Have you tried "find externals" from Pd's "help" menu or the object web search at http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=ogg&objects= ? ___

Re: [PD] linux and midi

2021-02-21 Thread Peter P.
* Allister Sinclair [2021-02-21 16:58]: > Hi, > > How do you deal with midi in pd in linux (Ubuntu Studio) ? > I use alsamidi and alsaconnect to initiate midi ins and outs. > Used [midiin] with no problem until pd 0.5.1 . > Now [midiin] skips some data when too much midi is getting in (moving > s

Re: [PD] [clone] settable instance number?

2021-01-25 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2021-01-25 13:28]: > So far, it's not possible (without dynamic patching), but there's a WIP PR > which I should probably reactivate: > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1069 Yes, please reactivate! DSP switching itself is not so much of an issue as you say yourself in

[PD] [clone] settable instance number?

2021-01-25 Thread Peter P.
Hi, how would I be able to set [clone]'s instance number, currently an argument, using a message? I am trying to create voices dynamically, which furthermore would introduce clicks, but make the number of voices dependent on some other conditions/calculations in an abstraction at creation time. t

Re: [PD] Polyphonic voice allocation and sustain pedal

2021-01-07 Thread Peter P.
* alfonso santimone [2021-01-07 12:53]: > Sebastian's one is surely a more compact solution and probably more > efficient. But it doesn't deal with repeated notes, better said repeated > MIDI notes with the same MIDI note number, as the Hans' one does. > best Are you sure? Sebastian's solution is

Re: [PD] "make app" for vanilla?

2021-01-02 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2021-01-02 17:42]: > You can always distribute Pd along your project and have a simple top-level > shell script resp. batch script which opens your main patch with the bundled > Pd version. Give the script a nice icon and off you go :-) > The downside is that on Windows and ma

Re: [PD] Anyone interested in to do “translations” of old patchs?

2020-12-31 Thread Peter P.
* Andy Farnell [2020-12-31 18:17]: > If there's a lot of them likely that a script could do a global > search and replace. Probably lost now, but Chris McCormick or Hans > once helped me with a Pd parser for replacing all instances of [ead~] > with a vanilla substitute. IIRC it was all bash + awk

Re: [PD] Anyone interested in to do “translations” of old patchs?

2020-12-31 Thread Peter P.
* Mario Mora [2020-12-31 14:53]: > Hello there > > I have used PD for some works in the past years and now I’m facing the issue > of the software that is deprecated or obsolete for the new O.S in the > neighborhood. > So I face the problem when somebody ask me for to do some of this works and

Re: [PD] Pd's jack outputs are numbered from zero onwards?

2020-12-18 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-12-18 21:16]: > On 12/18/20 9:06 PM, Peter P. wrote: > > * IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-12-18 20:52]: > > > On 12/18/20 8:40 PM, Peter P. wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > just discovered that Pd's jack a

Re: [PD] Pd's jack outputs are numbered from zero onwards?

2020-12-18 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-12-18 20:52]: > On 12/18/20 8:40 PM, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > just discovered that Pd's jack audio ouput ports are numbered from zero > > onwards. Is this very intentional? > > it's been on my todo-list for ages

[PD] Pd's jack outputs are numbered from zero onwards?

2020-12-18 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, just discovered that Pd's jack audio ouput ports are numbered from zero onwards. Is this very intentional? Can't seem to think of any other software that does it, and system ports such as soundcard ports seem to be numbered from 1 onwards, making it easy to tip over the off-by-one error (

Re: [PD] Apple's GM MIDI player in Pd?

2020-12-10 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-12-10 03:33]: > I noticed Pd in windows can use an internal MS GM player, see: > > [image: 2020-12-09 23.20.34.jpg] > > And seems Apple also has a similar thing, called "DLS Sound Set" or > something like it that other softwares use (like Live and Max) but Pd can'

Re: [PD] Gem/[pix_image] not loading images due to umlauts

2020-11-27 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-11-27 21:06]: > On 11/27/20 7:48 PM, Jack wrote: > > Impossible ! the maintainer of Gem is Austrian :) > > what's more, e goes by the nick of "umlaeute". > > > but of course, i'm mainly testing on Linux (where everything works as > expected). On another account, I jus

Re: [PD] delay compensation in pitch-shifting (i...@hansroels.be)

2020-11-23 Thread Peter P.
Nice Juliàn, is that a variable-delay ("rotating head") pitch shifter as well? In that case, how would it compare to G09.pitchshift.pd ? cheersz, P * Julián Villegas [2020-11-24 03:45]: > Hi Hans, > > I’m sorry I’m late to the party and that I can’t answer your questions, but I > wanted to call

Re: [PD] Pd 64 bits precision "for real"?

2020-11-23 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2020-11-22 23:40]: > Double precision Pd indeed solves the table playback issue (among other > things). > > Christof > > PS: "64-bit Pd" usually means Pd compiled for a 64-bit architecture, but > this thread is really about double precision Pd. I'm sure you were talking > about

Re: [PD] Pd 64 bits precision "for real"?

2020-11-22 Thread Peter P.
* Dan Wilcox [2020-11-20 23:19]: > Note: until the sound file updates branch with the CAF file support is > merged, 64 bit sample indices aren't yet useful with the current core file > formats (WAV, AIFF, SND) as they use 32 bit indices. Dan, is this in any way related with buffer indexing? I am

Re: [PD] reverse items in a list?

2020-11-17 Thread Peter P.
Trying to avoid all externals™ but thanks! ;) * Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-11-17 22:55]: > if you can use externals, try else/reverse, it's based on this ;) > > Em ter., 17 de nov. de 2020 às 18:20, Peter P. > escreveu: > > > Sweet Alexandre, thank you a

Re: [PD] reverse items in a list?

2020-11-17 Thread Peter P.
nect 10 0 9 0; > > Em ter., 17 de nov. de 2020 às 17:56, Ingo escreveu: > > > [$3 $2 $1( ? > > > > Ingo > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter > > P. > > >

Re: [PD] reverse items in a list?

2020-11-17 Thread Peter P.
Sorry, I forgot to say that I am trying to do it for lists of unknown and varying length. Thanks so much Ingo. cheers, P * Ingo [2020-11-17 21:54]: > [$3 $2 $1( ? > > Ingo > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Beh

[PD] reverse items in a list?

2020-11-17 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, sorry if this has been discussed before, the list archive didn't give a good search result, but how would I reverse items in a given list immediately, so that [1 2 3< becomes [3 2 1< ? cheers, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSC

Re: [PD] pix_snap2tex: First frame garbled upon repeated launch?

2020-11-16 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, Cyrille wrote me a reply off-list meanwhile: > hello Peter, > my mail was rejected from the list, I don't know why, so I just forward it to > you so you have my answer, even if it's not yet on the list. [...] > from pix_snap2text help file : > "When banged [pix_snap2tex] will take a s

[PD] pix_snap2tex: First frame garbled upon repeated launch?

2020-11-16 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, having fun exploring Gem's [pix_snap2tex] object, I find that the first frame to be snapshot is garbled and displaying a green bang and the text "Pd" unless opened the first time (see screenshot). This is on Debian with Gem 0.94-3. Attaching a minimal working example. Can anyone confirm

Re: [PD] help on bash script

2020-11-09 Thread Peter P.
* Roman Haefeli [2020-11-09 13:25]: [...] > Poor man's solution: > > put a 'sleep 5' after starting Pd. This of course introduces a race condition. Might almost always work™. > A slightly more advanced way: > > while ! aconnect --list | grep "Pure Data"; do sleep 0.1; > > Put that after

Re: [PD] help on bash script

2020-11-09 Thread Peter P.
* Jakob Laue [2020-11-09 12:54]: > Hey friends, > i have a raspberry pi that executes a bash script on startup. Inside this bash > script I want two things to happen. > 1) start my pd patch > 2) connect my launchpad mini (connected via usb) to pd using the > aconnect-command Have you tried search

Re: [PD] opening a unix path with writesf~ on windows hangs Pd

2020-11-05 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2020-11-05 17:46]: > Confirmed. I just opened an issue on GitHub: > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1211 Sweet, thanks to you and to IO! P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> ht

[PD] opening a unix path with writesf~ on windows hangs Pd

2020-11-05 Thread Peter P.
Hi, it seems that opening /tmp/foo.wav and starting to write into it on Windows10 from Pd 0.51.2 and DSP turned on will halt Pd after a few seconds. Is this known? cheers, Peter ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-managemen

Re: [PD] Checking for interest: Scheme interpreter external for PD

2020-10-22 Thread Peter P.
* Iain Duncan [2020-10-22 05:22]: > Hello, I'm the author of Scheme for Max, a relatively new open source > external for Max/MSP that hosts an embedded Scheme Lisp interpreter using > S7, the Scheme implementation from Bill at CCRMA, also used in Snd and > Common Music. The external allows one to

Re: [PD] audio interface with multiple outs on raspberry pi

2020-10-04 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette via Pd-list [2020-10-02 17:31]: > I've used startech "7.1" interfaces (USB powered) with Pis. The "1" is the > same electronics as teh "7" - it's really just an 8ch output. It has 1/8" > connectors which won't age well but it's only $25 or so. I ended up > buying 5 for an inst

Re: [PD] b16.long-varispeed working? bypass the "onset" solution?

2020-09-24 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-09-25 08:38]: > > I have [else/ramp~] and it has an internal "sum" variable which is a > 'double', > > and I see it works just great to generate indexes over that limit > > Ok, Matt Barber explained to me how has this doesn't really work and I was > just fooled...

Re: [PD] Binural externals

2020-08-30 Thread Peter P.
* José Rafael Subía Valdez [2020-08-30 03:01]: > Can't get IEM plugins to compile (very frustrating)... never could in > fedora 31 or even in ubuntu, I think it was the VST2 sdk setup that always > defeated me. > > Yes!! earplug~ I will give it a try. > thanks guys > any other suggestions? Perhap

Re: [PD] Binural externals

2020-08-29 Thread Peter P.
* José Rafael Subía Valdez [2020-08-29 18:54]: > Hello List, > a long time ago, maybe 10 years, I do remember finding a couple of > binural options as externals for PD, now with covid, I have been > interested in this again, but to my surprise, I did not find much of > anything. There are a couple

[PD] Quicktime Synth via IAC Bus from Pd?

2020-06-18 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, when I still had to use OS X there was the Quicktime synthesizer available as a Midi software synthesizer in the OS. It was quite handy to quickly play a few notes from Pd's Midi objects. It seems to be gone from current (mobile-phone-like) versions of OS X. Is this correct? Is there an

[PD] [semi-OT] binary nvidia drivers on Debian Linux for Gem

2020-06-10 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, oliver and me have been struggling to get nvidia binary drivers to work on his Debian stable laptop. Their intended use is with Gem, hence I would like to know if in 2020 the preferred way to install them is with Debians nvidia-legacy-390xx-kernel-dkms package or with some install script

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-0 released

2020-06-06 Thread Peter P.
Oh thanks Hans, I always forget! cheers, P * hans w. koch [2020-06-06 13:44]: > usually the changes are documented here: > http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x5.htm > > best > hans > > > Am 06.06.2020 um 12:56 schrieb Peter P. : > > > > Thank you so m

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-0 released

2020-06-06 Thread Peter P.
Thank you so much Miller! I can't seem to find some changelog or info for users what has changed. Where would I best look? src/CHANGELOG seems to be rather old. best, P * Miller Puckette via Pd-announce [2020-06-06 04:51]: > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.51-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd

[PD] grey checkbox in Deken: Tri-Option? More questions and mailinglist archive search

2020-06-06 Thread Peter P.
Hi, just found out that the checkbox for the Deken preference "Should newly installed libraries be added to Pd's search path?" has three states, on, off, and a grey check ("perhaps"?). What is its meaning? What is the meaning of the "Check" button in front of some of the directories in the same d

Re: [PD] external binary file extensions for 32 and 64bit under recent OS X

2020-06-05 Thread Peter P.
> "ppc" -> PowerPC > > --- > > In your case, you can ship two different binaries next to each other: > ".d_i386" and ".d_amd64". > > Finally, macOS also supports fat binaries, where several architectures are > contained within a single bi

[PD] external binary file extensions for 32 and 64bit under recent OS X

2020-06-05 Thread Peter P.
Hi, excuse me if this has been discussed before but since I am not on OS X I am wondering how one would include pre-compiled externals for OS X these days for 32bit and 64bit Pd installations. Do these files have different extensions on OS X and will Pd select the correct one? thanks, P __

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] CALL FOR PAPERS: "A quarter of century of Pd: past, present and future" - Vortex Music Journal

2020-06-03 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-06-02 23:50]: > I'm glad to announce the next year's edition of the Vortex Music Journal > dedicated to Pure Data. This volume will be released in 2021 - the year Pd > becomes 25 years old, hence the theme: “A quarter of century of Pd: past, > present and future”. A

[PD] Pd concert: Modulometer 7pm CEST via audio stream

2020-05-16 Thread Peter P.
Tonight at 7pm central European summer time: The modulometer concert happening in cyberspace at https://plessas.mur.at/modulometer/ with many works composed exclusively as Pd patches and by students of the Vienna university of music and performing arts. __

Re: [PD] hid 64bit binary for OS X (after upgrade to Catalina)?

2020-05-16 Thread Peter P.
* Albert Rafetseder [2020-05-15 18:09]: > Hi Peter, > > > after an OS X upgrade to Catalina my current 32bit binary of [hid] does not > > work anymore due to Apple dropping support for 32bit. > > > > Does anyone have a 64bit binary at hand? Is there any other workaround? > > I can send you (of

[PD] hid 64bit binary for OS X (after upgrade to Catalina)?

2020-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, after an OS X upgrade to Catalina my current 32bit binary of [hid] does not work anymore due to Apple dropping support for 32bit. Does anyone have a 64bit binary at hand? Is there any other workaround? Thanks and stay safe cheers, P ___ Pd

Re: [PD] live audio broadcast (radio) to lan with low latency

2020-05-10 Thread Peter P.
Hi, * Marco Schretter [2020-05-11 02:25]: > dear list, > > i'm thinking about the following (corona)performance-situation without any > good solution by now: > > live performance situation where (an arbitrary no. of) people on the street > can pass by and listen somehow to the performance live

[PD] Trailing zeros after decimal points in comments truncated?

2020-05-08 Thread Peter P.
Hi, and please excuse me if this is known, but I have discovered that writing a comment such as works with Pd 0.50 into a patch, saving, closing and reopening it will truncate the trailing zero hence yielding works with Pd 0.5 I understand that the underlying logic might be the sam

Re: [PD] Best way to talk to the GPIO of a Raspberry Pi 4 ?

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
* Ingo [2020-04-21 16:57]: > What's the best way to control the GPIO of a Raspberry Pi 4 directly from > within Pd? > > I remember seeing at least one "wiringPi" library for Pd back when I didn't > need it . Does the mailing list archive help? https://lists.puredata.info/search?P=raspberry+gpio&D

Re: [PD] VU / Peak Meter ? - external or abstraction

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
* Claude Heiland-Allen [2020-04-21 16:27]: > Hi, > > On 21/04/2020 12:20, Peter P. wrote: > > * Ingo [2020-04-21 13:10]: > > > Thanks, Peter! > > > > > > At the moment I cannot change to 0.50 but I'll keep it in mind for the > > >

Re: [PD] VU / Peak Meter ? - external or abstraction

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
* Ingo [2020-04-21 13:10]: > Thanks, Peter! > > At the moment I cannot change to 0.50 but I'll keep it in mind for the near > future when I will have to update my system. Note that you could add entries for Debian testing in your /etc/apt/sources list but have your system default to stable by cr

[PD] Gem: Message about libDeckLinkAPI.so not found on Debian

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
Hi, loading Gem from the formidable Debian testing package 1:0.94-1+b1 Pd throws the following message on the OS shell: libDeckLinkAPI.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Debian has not such file in its package archive. Gem loads fine otherwise but I thought it would be

Re: [PD] VU / Peak Meter ? - external or abstraction

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
* Peter P. [2020-04-21 10:23]: > * Ingo [2020-04-21 09:03]: > > Does anybody know of an accurate mono or stereo VU meter? > > > > Abstraction or external. > > > > > > > > Using env~ with the Pd internal level meter works but I don't seem

Re: [PD] VU / Peak Meter ? - external or abstraction

2020-04-21 Thread Peter P.
* Ingo [2020-04-21 09:03]: > Does anybody know of an accurate mono or stereo VU meter? > > Abstraction or external. > > > > Using env~ with the Pd internal level meter works but I don't seem to have > any reference of the real peak or RMS level. > > > > The only thing I could do is sendin

Re: [PD] phasor~ with non fixed input

2020-04-20 Thread Peter P.
* Boštjan Jerko [2020-04-20 17:14]: > I’m trying to understand the script I got and there is one part where phasor~ > gets an input that is not a number. Something like on the attached image. As a general rule, better post post the .pd file (called "patch") instead of screenshots. > I don’t get w

Re: [PD] VR and Pd

2020-04-09 Thread Peter P.
* Csaba Láng [2020-04-09 22:43]: > Dear list, > > I plan to make a VR installation in Pd and GEM, but no idea if it is > possible with any Pd externals. > How should I start? start by learning Gem if you haven't http://gem.iem.at/documentation/manual/manual/referencemanual-all-pages __

Re: [PD] vline~ 2nd and 3rd inlet?

2020-03-19 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-03-19 09:26]: > On 3/19/20 7:57 AM, Peter P. wrote: > > * Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-03-18 13:59]: > >> I updated the help files in my "Documentation Updates" branch > >> > >> https://g

Re: [PD] vline~ 2nd and 3rd inlet?

2020-03-18 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-03-18 13:59]: > I updated the help files in my "Documentation Updates" branch > > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/829/commits/3f86e7fbb382596b749be17385c9db411540525a Thank you Alexandre! I am somewhat of a git novice, is there a git command line comma

[PD] vline~ 2nd and 3rd inlet?

2020-03-18 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, what is the function of the second inlet of line~ and the second and third inlet of vline~? The help patches don't mention it and the list archive at https://lists.puredata.info/search? does not give an immediate result. thanks! P ___ Pd-lis

Re: [PD] bandpass makeup gain formula?

2020-03-10 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2020-03-10 19:59]: > I've done a nice job plotting the frequency response of both bp~ and vcf~ > and exposing their formulas, Thank you! In what way will this help the makeup gain calculation? best, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.

Re: [PD] bandpass makeup gain formula?

2020-03-08 Thread Peter P.
* Peter P. [2020-03-08 18:21]: > * Miller Puckette via Pd-list [2020-03-04 16:49]: > > vcf~ aims for an approximate peak gain of 1 (although this is _very_ > > approximate for low values of Q). > Thanks for the info Miller! > > Measuring vcf~ with a Q of 5 and noise~ I

Re: [PD] bandpass makeup gain formula?

2020-03-08 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette via Pd-list [2020-03-04 16:49]: > vcf~ aims for an approximate peak gain of 1 (although this is _very_ > approximate for low values of Q). Thanks for the info Miller! Measuring vcf~ with a Q of 5 and noise~ I do get different results depending on the center frequency. For 100Hz

Re: [PD] rendering pd patches outside pd

2020-03-08 Thread Peter P.
* Max [2020-03-07 15:20]: > There is also the patch2svg plugin by IOhannes. Look for it in the deken > external manager aka "Find externals" in the Help menu. Indeed! Am using this one with much joy since a few years now. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mail

Re: [PD] PD 0.50 on mint ...

2020-03-05 Thread Peter P.
* oliver [2020-03-05 10:13]: > Hi, dear list ! > > Just tried linux MINT (32bits) on an old laptop. > > All is working well so far, but i can't seem to get MINT to install the most > recent version of PD with apt. > > i tried tweaking the apt sources but all i can get with apt-get is version >

Re: [PD] Subprocess CPU core check

2020-03-05 Thread Peter P.
* Csaba Láng [2020-03-05 09:08]: > Thanks Andrew, > > that's cool but it still does not prove me that it runs on a different core. A quick startpage.com search https://www.startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&language=english&query=show+cpu+core+for+process yielded these https://unix.stackexchange.co

Re: [PD] Subprocess CPU core check

2020-03-04 Thread Peter P.
* Csaba Láng [2020-03-04 23:32]: > Dear list, > how can I check if my subprocess really runs on a different core than the > main pd instance. Telling about your operating system could be a first step. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

[PD] bandpass makeup gain formula?

2020-03-04 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am trying to calculate a makeup gain factor for white noise sent into [bp~] and [vcf~] bandpass objects depending on the center frequency and the Q (width) so that it measures the same in dBRMS before and after the filter. I am currently measuring it but am wondering if a.) this has bee

Re: [PD] raw mouse

2020-02-26 Thread Peter P.
* michael strohmann [2020-02-26 13:54]: > hi, > > i am stuck, trying to get raw mouse data in to pd. > > was succesfull in pd-extended with hans steiners HID objects, but i cant make > them work in vanilla (preferrably on a raspberry...) Have you tried "hid" via the "Find externals..." menu en

Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] was: Re: samplerate~

2020-02-19 Thread Peter P.
* Dan Wilcox [2020-02-19 10:38]: > I would also point out that internal messages such as pd-dsp-started don't > really come with an expected behavior for user patches. Saying how it works > is a "bug" belies that fact that I don't believe it was ever intended to be > used for this and just beca

Re: [PD] samplerate~

2020-02-18 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-02-18 23:28]: > On 2/18/20 10:21 PM, ffdd cchh wrote: > > The bug/feature with [r pd-dsp-started] is that you'll get a bang > > every time you save the patch, > > > it's neither a bug nor a feature. > the DSP-graph is re-built when the patch is saved, and so the > "pd

Re: [PD] samplerate~

2020-02-18 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-02-18 10:30]: [...] > remember, that a [loadbang] in a child-patch fires after a [loadbang] in > the parent patch (this is by design). Does "child-patch" mean subpatches as well as abstractions? > if you have a child-patch that uses [loadbang] to query [samplerate~], >

Re: [PD] samplerate~

2020-02-18 Thread Peter P.
* Matt Davey [2020-02-18 09:35]: > Just wondering how cpu intensive the samplerate~ object is? > > Is it just receiving from a value inside of pd, or does it need to retrieve > directly from hardware every time? > > We've been running into issues with [loadbang] to samplerate~ and having > the r

Re: [PD] svn or git on github or sourceforge?

2020-02-10 Thread Peter P.
and at least > two people still seem to use it for their externals... > > Christof > > > On 07.02.2020 09:40, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I am wondering if Pd and externals development happens via subversion or > > git? The page https://github.

Re: [PD] env~ argument confusion

2020-02-07 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-02-07 12:38]: > On 2/7/20 11:04 AM, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I can't seem to understand what the second argument of [env~] is for. > > The first argument is the window lenght for RMS analysis, but the second > > argument is

Re: [PD] 8.topics and slop-tilde.htm missing on Debian?

2020-02-07 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2020-02-07 09:36]: > Am 7. Februar 2020 09:31:43 MEZ schrieb "Peter P." : > >Hi list, > > > >trying to access the file slop-tilde.htm that is referenced in > >slop~-help.pd and it, nor its parent directory, is not found on my > >Deb

[PD] env~ argument confusion

2020-02-07 Thread Peter P.
Hi, I can't seem to understand what the second argument of [env~] is for. The first argument is the window lenght for RMS analysis, but the second argument is supposed to set "period in samples per analysis (window/2 default)". It seems I am getting two analysis values per window size with the def

[PD] svn or git on github or sourceforge?

2020-02-07 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am wondering if Pd and externals development happens via subversion or git? The page https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data says it is a "tracking puredata SourceForge git repository ". So am I correct to assume that development happens via git on sourceforge servers? Thanks! P

[PD] 8.topics and slop-tilde.htm missing on Debian?

2020-02-07 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, trying to access the file slop-tilde.htm that is referenced in slop~-help.pd and it, nor its parent directory, is not found on my Debian testing box with the following packages installed. $ aptitude search puredata | grep ^i | cut -d "-" -f 1-2 i puredata - realtime computer music and g

Re: [PD] "good" phasor~ in B16.long-varispeed.pd not looping?

2020-01-08 Thread Peter P.
* Philipp Schmalfuß [2020-01-07 23:03]: > Hi, > > i implemented the B16 example in one of my abstractions "pp.sfplayer~" which > you can download via deken, search for "audiolab". > The onset for tabread4~ is calculated every audio block, so a loop will not > start between blocks but that's good

Re: [PD] next PdCon?

2020-01-08 Thread Peter P.
* Adenosina Tri Phosfato [2020-01-08 08:49]: > As someone who organized one of this before - and also quoting Miller - I > say all that you need to do in order to make a PdCon happen is that you > organize it and call it a Pd Convention. Indeed! This is how it worked ever since we organised the fi

Re: [PD] "good" phasor~ in B16.long-varispeed.pd not looping?

2020-01-06 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2020-01-06 00:37]: > there's the [tabread4~~] external in zexy which doesn exactly that. The help > patch is missing, though. I guess [tabwrite4~] could also do that. Maybe > enable it with a flag? A flag could be avouded if the object would accept signals at the right inlet by

Re: [PD] "good" phasor~ in B16.long-varispeed.pd not looping?

2020-01-04 Thread Peter P.
* William Huston [2020-01-04 16:21]: > I would really love it if someone could provide a sample patch > demonstrating how to load a long audio file, and be able to scrub > through it using onset. > > I am utterly baffled by B16.long-varispeed.pd > > Something as simple as Rafael Hernandez' patch

[PD] "good" phasor~ in B16.long-varispeed.pd not looping?

2020-01-03 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am trying to understand the B16.long-varispeed.pd patch that measures a [phasor~]'s phase to calculate an onset which is to be sent into the right inlet of a [tabread4~]. The patch shows a good example and a bad one. Interestingly the [phasor~] in the bad one does produce looping playba

Re: [PD] strange characters in error message when trying to save help patches as non-root

2019-12-24 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette [2019-12-24 23:20]: > Yikes... this has never worked. Should be fixed in git repo now. Yep, seems to work now. best, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinf

[PD] B16.long-varispeed.pd different pitches and tabread4~ interpolation wrappers

2019-12-24 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am playing around with pd/doc/3.examples/B16.long-varispeed.pd in order to see if I can write a wrapper abstraction around it. So far I have a very hard time to understand how to do it. Has anyone attempted this so far (apart from Miller having it on his dolist, see his reply from a few

[PD] strange characters in error message when trying to save help patches as non-root

2019-12-24 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, On debian testing with package puredata-core version 0.50.2-1 I am trying to save any help file in /usr/lib/puredata/doc/5.reference/list-help.pd as non-root user without having the proper permissions. What is funny is that the subsequent and correct error message misspells the filename g

Re: [PD] find last error brings up subpatch or abstraction, but how to find parent?

2019-11-26 Thread Peter P.
* Philipp Schmalfuß [2019-11-26 14:57]: > +1 > > Quoting Christof Ressi : > > > > anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts > > > user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any > > > menu-option. > > > > +1 -1 as it would mean another step for users to keep t

Re: [PD] opening patch from pd message

2019-11-26 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2019-11-26 18:33]: [...] > # anatomy of a message > > i think it is pretty easy: > - any message in pd-land consists of a single selector and any number of > atoms (including none). > - an atom can be a number, a symbol, a gpointer and "other things" > - a selector must alwa

Re: [PD] opening patch from pd message

2019-11-26 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2019-11-26 16:03]: > Am 26. November 2019 15:49:07 MEZ schrieb Roman Haefeli : > >On Tue, 2019-11-26 at 15:12 +0100, Csaba Láng wrote: > >> Dear list, > >> > >> I want to open from a pd patch a pd patch withe the message: > >> > >> [; > >> pd open $1.pd /path-topatch;( > >

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