what directory you're in and it'll run.
Derek
> Yep,
>
> Raspberry Pi 3
> Raspbian Jessie
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Hello all,
Long time lurker, first time e-mailer. I get the digest version of these
e-mails so apologies if I'm not responding to the thread correctly.
I'm mostly active on the PD FB group and have been working with Alexandre
on updating cyclone, I've done a control rate pong so far and I'm
Thanks, John, I'll take a look myself and yeah, I'm not super-optimistic
either. There are calls to class_addcreator for "scope~" and
"cyclone/scope~" but yeah, "Scope~" is a weird one...
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I get plaintext digests and I haven't noticed any inconsistencies,
although I admit I haven't paid too close attention to the formatting.
Perhaps that's an option? Although you do miss out on the benefits of
MIME...
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es just a
regular signal inlet that interprets floats as signals via
CLASS_MAINSIGNALIN().
I'll do more digging...
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what are the reasons for doing so)? Also. is there a symlink equivalent
for Windows machines? I'll be honest, I'm not really familiar with
Makefile building beyond the very basic stuff (I didn't even know you
could make symlinks in Makefiles for instance)...
Der
Hey y'all,
I'm actually the one that needs this, I've been working with Alexandre on
updating Cyclone.
If further info is needed, the method I've been trying to use is inlet_new.
The part of documentation that seems to drive the nail in the coffin is
this bullet-point:
"It is not possible to
Hello,
Thanks for pointing me to the concept of proxy inlets.
I've tried to implement a test external using this code:
http://puredata.info/Members/mjmogo/proxy-example-for-pd.zip/view
In the linked code, they're basically making another class of type t_proxy:
typedef struct _proxy {
t_pd
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callable.
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> @Derek Kwan Many thanks for your reply and your patches. I confess that I
> have a poor understanding of arrays and the related object and tend to use
> objects/abstractions that take an audio/open panel input. With your
> patches, as with some others I've
appy packages
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efficiency...
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#N canvas 293 330 747 610 10;
#X obj 165 126 soundfiler;
#X obj 169 358 dac~ 1 2;
#X obj 177 62 openpanel;
#X obj 183 36 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262
'd like to
slightly modify your suggestion to:
${HOME}/.config/pure-data/settings.conf
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other bugs I've introduced but could this be also due to going from A_DEFSYM
to A_SYMBOL (and perhaps the same for float)? If so, is there a way to
typecast to the DEF versions?
Thanks!
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in the middle, some transitionary
Lego/Duplo hybrid steps. Thanks!
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> Sorry for the noise -
>
> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
>
> cheers
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like a whole lot more work and it's not exactly something I've been
absolutely dying without... but the new folder button would be nice =).
Thanks for all your hard work!
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companies don't pay us much attention just yet...
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clear/user-friendly as it could be and it's not particularly helpful in
welcoming new users. Thoughts?
(Also, how do things get added to the News list? The last entry is from
2015 and things such as Pd updates and the NYC conference on there would
be nice.)
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phase vocoding but you throw out the phases. I'm pretty sure the mmb
library has something like that because I've modified it and abstracted
it for my own use here:
https://github.com/derekxkwan/pure-data-abstractions/blob/master/paulstretch%7E.pd
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ve this beautiful, ambient drony soundscape.
I forget if they're using granular synthesis or paulstretching though so
maybe it's not proper evidence to support me liking granular synthesis...
Like any other technique, they can suffer if overused though...
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> Lots of thoughts here, but little time. Here are the salient points to me:
>
> 1. The best analogy to this in Pd is [soundfiler]. [soundfiler] stops the
> world in order to load the file, which routinely causes dropouts. This is a
> constant source of disappointment and frustration to students
On Jan 29, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> yeah, derek was talking about our current development, where we screwed up
> with the order of bangs in the unthreaded - but fixed now.
>
> Derek, would you care to elaborate why you think unthreaded should be the
> default?
>
I had some concerns with
>
> coll_bind, where msg is the thing returned by collcommon_doread:
>
> if(msg->m_line > 0) clock_delay(x->x_clock);
>
> but that may have been the thing that screwed up the correct order of
> things. In any case, I'll have to look at it more...
(apologies in advance for polluting the list
s by adding a check in
coll_bind, where msg is the thing returned by collcommon_doread:
if(msg->m_line > 0) clock_delay(x->x_clock);
but that may have been the thing that screwed up the correct order of
things. In any case, I'll have to look at
cularly helpful since Pd vanilla (at least without any tcl plugins)
doesn't distinguish objects from the rest of the other things on the
canvas with different colors or fills.
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arn and develop my
own tools, but I wouldn't say that this necessarily leads to any sort of
style of music. I'd say that perhaps with commercial products, you would
expect more-polished and thorough documentation, but this isn't always
the case. I'm not sure if I answe
, the menu will offer a [cut] (and
> [paste]) option in the "Actions" dropdown.
>
>
Thanks, managed to move Cyclone into proper subfolders and downloading
from Deken still works.
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perhaps that's a discussion for another time (but would also be a
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> >
> > J
For fixed-media pieces, would you want a link to the
soundcloud/someotherstreamingservice with the application and a d/l link to
the lossless coming later if accepted, or just the lossless straight up
with the applicati
entioned in my last e-mail and you can find a lot of examples of
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Hello,
I've been experimenting with structs and I was wondering why for click
listener method, [struct] spits out extra info (particularly, it
seems to correspond to the float y portion of a [struct] if defined).
The select,deselect, and change listeners don't spit out this extra float.
Despite
On Sep 11, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> But in pd it is 14-bits already
>
> It's just that both counterparts are not in the same standard, a bug as i
> see it (bendout is -8192 to 8191 & bendin is 0 to 16383) - bendout is what
> I consider the usual way to deal with pitch bend, where 0 is no
> Thanks Alexander,
>
> It seems to be the same kind of problem but not exactly it. Lets hope
> miller finds a possible solution for next version. My guess is that its the
> same issue that is causing similar behaviors.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Sep 11, 2016 10:41 PM, "Alexandre Torres Porres"
On Sep 04, Ingo wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I was wondering if anybody has used the Yamaha UD-BT01 Wireless Midi Adapter
> (Bluetooth v4.0 MIDI) with Linux.
> I was wondering how you could get the MIDI data to get recognized by Pd.
>
> Does anybody have any experience or know how to use it?
> I
well, I guess I pretty much only use notein/out so I don't have a lot of
patches with bend info so IOhannes would be right in that regard. I
think keeping this inconsisent behavior in the current existing objects
would reinforce this behavior in future patches and then when this topic
comes up
Hello,
Well, that's basically what Max does. It defaults to the original 0-127
and then you can specify a "hires" mode to use all 14-bits rather than
just 8-bits like 0-127 did. We just implemented this for midiparse and
midiformat in cyclone, the current version only had the 0-127. So yes,
it'd
> i can second johannes post regarding jacktrip.
>
> in june we did a network concert between cologne and taipei, streaming
> 4 channels of audio at 16/441 in either direction + a skype video feed
> for projection in the theatre in taipei.
> even with a non fixed IP on our side (client) and using
On Sep 12, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> On 2016-09-12 11:49, Derek Kwan wrote:
> > I use it with this
> > program a2jmidid which is at least in the Ubuntu repos, I think it's
> > supposed to bridge ALSA MIDI and Jack MIDI. Anyways, I then open up a
> > ALSA M
On Sep 16, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
> hello list,
>
> i would like to prevent Pd from leaving 'traces' other then what is done by
> my patch.
> i guess that if the preferences are not changed nothing will be written
> about that.
>
> but what about the 'recently opened patches'?
>
> suggestions are
Hello,
Linux checking in. I can't seem to replicate the bug on my computer and
that third outlet seems to work fine to me.
Would that version with pd-extended be the one found on the
puredata.info page (0.1-alpha55)? It says it was included in 0.42.5.
On first glance, it looks like 0.2beta has
> On first glance, it looks like 0.2beta has pthread stuff that
> 0.1-alpha55 has...
0.2beta has pthread stuff that 0.1-alpha55 DOESN'T HAVE, sorry for the typo
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be my color scheme... you can make invert the colorsceheme for the line
number column with a cterm=inverse option, hmm, i actually kinda like
that one...
you can also get the line number at the bottom with :set ruler
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> Well, for those who don't know, cyclist converts binary max files to text
> so they could be opened in Pd.
>
> >> Does anyone really use cyclist?
> >>
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ppose xeq could potentially be revived with [text] compat since that
seems to be the successor to [qlist]? it seems like [text] solves a lot
of the issues xeq had with qlist, like global binding allowing multiple
objects to traverse a text file...
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yep, take my attached screenshot of the comment help file running on pd
vanilla. I've noticed that Alex's new help files (obv) look fine on his machine,
but then when it comes to my machine running Xubuntu,.. looks less than fine...
weird
sizes and placement of comments. Especially that red one...
be to clear it immediately
> > with the understanding that there could be a possible dropout.
> >
> > A broader topic for another time would be "what Pd operations are/should
> > be realtime, and which are best at load time?"
> >
> > Thoughts?
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> > Subject: Re: [PD] another cyclone0.3 pre-alpha
> > Date: November 22, 2016 at 2:02:13 PM MST
> > To: Derek Kwan <derek.x.k...@gmail.com <mailto:derek.x.k...@gmail.com>>,
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] haven't gone
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s line 374 from the scybuf bit
(the entire line) and added this bit after that scybuf chunk:
scybufforky := \
shared/unstable/forky.c \
shared/cybuf.c
play~.class.sources := cyclone_src/binaries/signal/play.c $(scybufforky)
Hopefully that works/unborks!
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to 10.
Is this a tk limitation? This bit isn't such a huge deal though. I usu
use 12pt, it's just part of me thinks maybe I can get away with using
11.
I'm using Linux if it makes any diff. Thanks!
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> On 2016-10-31 13:11, Derek Kwan wrote:
> > Thus, I'd propose: a list of keywords for the library (including object
> > class names), version number, category (if applicable), author, and a
> > short description.
>
> oh, you mean something like the "-objec
intuitive to not have to leave Pd and get the information you want and
download the library with just a few clicks or so.
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ument was the weakest one and I'll have to
think about that more... And I suppose this discussion kinda is
tangentially related to pd-vanilla development, but Deken is a part of
the Pd Vanilla distribution now and I think library management in a
post-extended
al idea of what Pd Vanilla
should be.
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> >> Does anyone have a link to a paper or a publication that documents the
> >
> >
> >> motivation behind and original initiators of the pd-extended? I traced
> >> releases back to 2003 but there is no info on who were original players
> >> who
> On 12/09/2016 06:24 AM, Derek Kwan wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > external object class was instantiated. The latter sounds trickier and I
> > haven't got there yet, but for the former I'm trying [winfo pointerx
> > $::focused_window]
>
> check ou
if nothing else works, I can just subtract the
rootx/y values from the screen values I'm getting and clip them to the
window's dimensions. If it helps, I'm testing in Ubuntu. Thanks in
advance!
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I suppose since we're doing this about feature requests, I'd like to ask
about deleting instances of structs in linked lists =).
I've read through the list archive and seen this pop up a few times,
one of the issues being brought up being stale pointers if I recall
correctly. Is there any
anything anyways. If there is a draw command, then it looks
like you can't specify any particular element since they're all being
drawn on 0 0 and deleting at 0 0 deletes the head of the list since it's
at the top. So not particularly dangerous,... but not particularly
directable either =
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you can get
pretty low latencies (and it's class compliant too!). I think there's a
new model of the Motu Ultralite these days that is also worth considering
(I vaguely remember Alex Porres posting something about it on Fb awhile
ago so he might want to chime in haha).
my perusings of the pd-list archives, I know this definitely has been
brought
up before, but probably one of the more clunkier things about dealing with data
structures is not being able to delete individual scalars.
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see an abstraction using a
"proxy" [text] instance and automating the [text fromlist/tolist] steps
helping out the situation though. Thanks!
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in one stage, then group
2, etc.) and have been doing it with just working from one big [text]
instance but it looks like perhaps using structs with text members
(as in the mystruct example above) would be more suited for that sort
of thing with each scalar being a stage.
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could also be
something in the build not going right on my machine if nobody else is
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https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-01/117295.html
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hods via [text insert] yield input that looks to be their escaped
\$0, \$1 versions within the popup Pd text window and then when you try
to save the contents of that window they get resolved (so $0 goes to 0
and $1 yields \\$1: argument number out of range warnings).
Again, don't particularly care
tch in emacs/vim and do a
search/replace, but I'm looking for an in-Pd solutions... Also for the
array business I suppose I could do that via [clone], but that situation
doesn't seem ideal either...
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> On 05/20/2018 02:12 PM, Derek Kwan wrote:
>> As a side note, I don't really particular about this situation right now
>> and don't have a use case as of yet, but it looks like both the $$
>> approach and the tosymbol appr
aths are added (which actually might be
tricky depending on platform/how their system is set up). And of course
not loading the prefs file affects more than just paths/loading...
So maybe now that I type it out this isn't such a simple idea to
implement haha, but maybe it could be helpful for som
th pdkl- (pd + dk + l for list) so my mapping abstraction
is called [pdkl-map].
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wanted for the [pd subpatch] object (even message boxes).
Anybody else notice something like this or something similar?
Using Pd 0.48.1 and Linux (Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS) and haven't built from
source since its release so maybe something has changed in the past
week or so...
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or do
symbolic links to folders like "ln -s cyclone/ cyc" or something but we
can't expect the end user to do that... But I suppose you and I Alex
has the same ideas in mind? Half the point of adding paths is to not
have to type out the library na
> but we're facing technical difficulties uploading to deken :/ - a
> report was done at https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/178
everything should be up on deken now, thanks to iohannes for helping me
out with my deken issues.
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ready installed them onto their computers), and probably break
everything which would be a huge no-no. but it is
interesting to think about =P.
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> It's not just you, as it's already been reported:
>
> #1306 subpatch object width moves to last created object in subpatch
> https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1306/
Ah, thanks! Good to know...
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I suppose to due my differing opinion, I would +1 the option to change
inlet/outlet thicknesses, perhaps via TCL or .pdsettings.
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> oliver <oli...@klingt.org> writes:
>
>> even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal,
>> are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ?
>>
>> no chance to at least hack a perso
Hello,
I would have Pd talk to whatever's hosting your webpage using OSC.
I wrote a piece a few years ago that had SuperCollider (but I later ported
it to Pd) talking to a webpage I hosted on my computer via node.js via OSC
(I think I used the 'node-osc' library in
particular). So Pd talks to
out what other folks are making with Pd...
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[s]s and [r]s and
it does get to be a bit tedious BUT I'm not quite sure if mixing the two
worlds and their rules are worth it...
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Clemens writes:
> Hello list,
>
> is there a way to add some words to the surface of a patch like adding
> a commentary,
>
> but with a lager type size?
>
> Just for clarity reasons.
>
> Cheers
>
> Clemens
Check out [comment] in the Cyclone library.
Dere
the data from a text file and
plotting everything and togglinng and untoggling plotting certain
parameters, the performance isn't so bad, definitely usable (just end
up with a horizontally lng canvas that you have to navigate with a
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