Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> hi, somebody brought me the attention to the fact that there's no GEM in Purr > Data, what's the situation there? Unfortunately not in OSX atm, but it should be operational for Windows and Gnu/Linux. -Jonathan > cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at m

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
2017-02-10 2:01 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes :  Unfortunately not in OSX atm > so, if not now, any estimate when? and what is the problem for now? just > curious... It's a large complex library that takes a long time to compile, and there wasn't pre-existing infrastructure in the pd-extended bu

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> hi - > just donwloaded pd-l2ork-2.0-osx-10.8-x86_64.dmg to run it on osx 10.8, but > it > won't install, saying it needs at least 10.9> an oversight? It could be. Do you get the error immediately after clicking the installer? -Jonathan ___ Pd-l

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hi guys, what is the earliest version of OS X that is still supported for > Purrdata?> Will 10.6 Snow Leopard work? The GUI will work on 10.6 (at least that is what it says on the website).  But I'm not sure if the build infrastructure supports a version that old or not. I'm happy to try to

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
sion, you can use Albert Graef's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef/+archive/ubuntu/pd-l2ork.xenial I'm not (yet) using his build script for the Ubuntu CI builds.  Sorry, that's an oversight on my part. -Jonathan 2017-02-10 12:01 GMT-02:00 Max : On 2017년 02월 09일 23:19, Jo

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I have a Mac Mini running 10.6.8 I would be happy to try it out.  Great! I'm doing the GUI part of so-called "10.8" build manually at the moment.So let me get that set up in the install scripts correctly to make it easier to test this. -Jonathan > Sent from my iPony On 10 Feb 2017, at 16.3

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
s > directly. Great!  Thanks, Matt. -Jonathan On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: 2017-02-10 2:01 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes :  Unfortunately not in OSX atm > so, if not now, any estimate when? and what is the problem for now? just > curious...

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> What intrigues me is that Purr Data (or Pd-l2ork) does load "Deja Vu Sans > Mono" for all platforms and even so the patch does not look "bad" like that, > as an example, > I'm attaching a print screen from pd-l2ork in Linux (4-l2ork.png), to show > that it doesn't look like the linux part of

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> This looks great! However we're running into a problem over here on our > Windows machines. When loading a fairly large patch, all GUI objects are not > updating (a toggle won't show state change, but it shows its value change in > the console when connected to a [print]). I'm unable to identi

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> On 10/02/17 06:19, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> Purr Data is now released. > Wow, congratulations Jonathan and everyone involved in getting to release. It's clear a lot of hard work has gone into this over the past few years. Quite an accomplishment. Nice one! Th

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
After "undefined" there should be an ellipsis: "(...)"  If it's there, click it and copy/paste the rest of the error that pops up. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/lis

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> There isn't an ellipsis, the only contents of the error is what I copied and > pasted. Ok.  If you can send me a patch that triggers the bug I'll investigate further. -Jonathan On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: After "undefined" there should be an ellipsis: "(...)"  I

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> This was fixed in extended years ago and the font handling improvements have > simply not been ported to Vanilla. Your point is clear, what is not clear is > (as usual) who is going to spend the time to port Hans' working solution to > vanilla and in such a way as to have it accepted. There

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> As for comparisons, here’s the same patch using Deja Vu Sans Mono and Monaco, > both with Tk 8.4 & with Tk 8.6 Retina HiDPI rendering:  > https://flic.kr/p/QLGphN (zoom in or download & view at full size) > Jonathan: One of the remaining problems I have with the Tk 8.6 build is the > padding

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
et Gem to compile without quicktime support with few difficulties. Most of the effort was actually in getting gavl/gmerlin to compile, as there were not ready-made homebrew packages. Jonathan, when I get some time I'll send you some instructions and patches directly. On Fri, Feb 10,

Re: [PD] Purr Data released!

2017-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list : > On initial trials I've found Purr Data good to use, thank-you. Curious if > there are plans for an ARM release? There's an armv7l release:https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ tree/master That runs on rpi2, and on a Chrome

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hey all > I'm happy that so many people are trying to tackling the font / box size issue in vanilla now. From what I can tell, box sizes aren't even consistent within the same Linux distribution. A program can essentially either resize fonts to fit hard-coded box sizes, or it can resize boxes

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> 2017-02-15 12:27 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list : A program can essentially either resize fonts to fit hard-coded box sizes, or it can resize boxes to fit the fonts.  Pd Vanilla does the latter. > And Purr Data does the former, right? For DejaVu Sans Mono, yes.  But that'

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I could be wrong but I believe that when you ask for a negative font size that inhibits scaling... so the line in pd-gui.tcl: negative font-size numbers in tk mean pixel sizing instead of point sizing. > set foo [list $::font_family -$fsize bold] > is asking for pixel-deterministic font sizes

Re: [PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hi, > great that purr-data is finally out. > I went back to this thread https://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@lists.iem.at/msg10518.html which briefly touched on the topic of visualizing HTML pages inside purr data, but did not find the solution to my problem. > Using seems to load local f

Re: [PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Nice, that works for . > Any idea why I see nothing in objects? Unfortunately I don't-- I've been working mostly in SVG land, and only the simple parts of HTML for input, divs and some CSS styling. I have seen some discussions of webview in the nw.js mailing list, so you might check there

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>>parser error. gfmdsar>>IOhannes  > Since you mention the key word “parser” for the possible coming prefs.file, > do you think XML standards for writing suits for an easy parser? XML is overkill for something as simple as a preferences file. -Jonathan > I'm all ears. > Mensaje telepatico

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> XML is overkill for something as simple as a preferences file. > That is right. > But all characters, tabs, lf/cr or what ever con be hold inside > What problem does that solve which a simple format doesn't solve? -Jonathan > It could be a pseudo parser. > Mensaje telepatico asistido po

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
#yiv2808832499 #yiv2808832499 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2>>What problem does that solve which a simple format doesn't solve?  > I don't know. > I`m putting something on the table, in case a simple file format not feet our > cross-platforms needs. > How do we know if a simple fil

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> @ Jonathan, >>Because keys, values, and key/value pairs in the Pd preferences are >>themselves simple: >>keys: ascii string containing no spaces >>values: number, numbers separated by whitespace, ascii string with >>nowhitespace, and file paths. > Pseudo XML may not be needed but what was t

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Benefit: there would be a single preferences file format shared among all platforms. Cost:* currently the only platform that uses xml for preferences is OSX, and Pd relies on its proprietary, non-portable tool in order to read and save this file. So it would be necessary to write an XML parser

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Ok, Thanx for the detalis. > Anyway before concluding this thread I must said that this year I've been > connecting the pref.file to 2 things: > Purr-Data : > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-01/117407.html> Deken : If > necessary the pref.file can hold the deken path.for.e

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> Why do you want to add font metrics to the preferences?  That is information  >> that the GUI toolkit should produce automatically. > Look here: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-&-comparisons > Here it is shown the diff between Vanilla & > extended:htt

Re: [PD] (wip) Preferences file.

2017-02-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Well the modifided tcl AFAWCT gives uniform patch rendering on all OS with > the same font. Ok, if that's the case then I would suggest not to add a user-facing font-metrics option.  If a Vanilla user wants larger fonts than the fontspec provides for, they can just increase the zoom level.

Re: [PD] OT (the OT list seems quite quiet... so here it is again) 2 postdoc opportunities

2017-03-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> As with previous HISS projects, FluCoMa will deliver its findings open > source, in the form of software (standalone and extensions) with extensive documentation and examples, as well as the underlying libraries in C++. How do you plan to license and distribute the data inside the banks of sou

[PD] purr data 2.1.1

2017-03-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Purr Data 2.1.1 is out. https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/tree/master I added a "dropdown" widget to the "Put" menu.  The interface isn't yet stable, but it should be usable if people want to play with it. Changes: * normalized range for `[bendin]` (keep old behavior under lega

Re: [PD] purr data 2.1.1

2017-03-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
oking for non-Vanilla objects.  And maybe have it create a comment next to the offending object.  But that's a bit finicky and prone to error. -Jonathan On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: Purr Data 2.1.1 is out. https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data

Re: [PD] purr data 2.1.1

2017-03-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
ou direct it from the runtime. You could use the Purr Data introspection objects inside an abstraction to poll the current parent canvas looking for non-Vanilla objects.  And maybe have it create a comment next to the offending object.  But that's a bit finicky and prone to error. -J

Re: [PD] purr data 2.1.1

2017-03-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
cation of the binaries might change in the future. -Jonathan cheers 2017-03-11 18:07 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list : Also, there's a "legacy" flag that can be used to get the old behavior on the stuff we've fixed like [bendin] -Jonathan > hey Jonathan - i would lo

Re: [PD] purr data 2.1.1

2017-03-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> 2017-03-12 19:09 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes : There's a separate repo for pd-l2ork 1.0-- that's the one that uses tcl/tk/tkpath for the GUI.  That codebase has been officially merged with pd-l2ork 2.0 (which is what I call "Purr Data").  Official in the sense that we've gone through and tri

[PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hello list, Can someone on OSX 10.8 please run the following command: defaults export /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences - And tell me what happens:a) it outputs some xml that ends with ""b) it outputs the same exact thing as running `defaults` with no arguments Thanks,Jonathan

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> Can someone on OSX 10.8 please run the following command: >> defaults export /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences - >> Trying this on OSX 10.8.5. Com

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> Can someone on OSX 10.8 please run the following command: >> defaults export /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences - > Trying this on OSX 10.8.5. Just to be

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list > > > wrote: >>> Hello list, >>> >>> Can someone on OSX 10.8 please run the following command: >>> defaults export /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences - > >> Trying this on

Re: [PD] Pd / Purr-Data and Ausus Tinkerboard - analog sound card does not show up (alsa)

2017-03-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
What does `aplay -l` output? -Jonathan From: Ingo To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:24 AM Subject: [PD] Pd / Purr-Data and Ausus Tinkerboard - analog sound card does not show up (alsa) I'm testing the Asus Tinker Board at the moment but I cannot get Pd (0.

Re: [PD] Pd / Purr-Data and Ausus Tinkerboard - analog sound card does not show up (alsa)

2017-03-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> root@XpressO:~# aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Audio [USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Audio [USB Audio], device 1: USB Audio [USB Audio #1]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Aud

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
il' instead. > > Does the manpage for 'plutil' in 10.8 include 'json' as a possible > format for the '-convert' flag? > > -Jonathan > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > >>> On Mon, Mar

Re: [PD] install purr data on RPi?

2017-04-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Thanks Ivica, I guess I wasn't clear in my original post. I tried to install > the using the links to arm builds for the current and previous releases of > purr data but the links are not the arm builds. Looks like I somehow uploaded the wrong binary for raspbian.  Try the revised one:https:

Re: [PD] install purr data on RPi?

2017-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Thanks Jonathan, > That worked, well purr data installed and runs, audio works but the install > terminal lists a lot of missing dependencies (it does work though). What are the missing dependencies? > thanks again On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Thanks Ivica, I g

Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

2017-04-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon Gem works under Windows and Gnu/Linux, but not under OSX. > I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it, > apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too) Sorry, aside from a stop-gap to get

Re: [PD] best licence for pd-patches?

2017-04-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> i have searched the archive, and something similar has been asked before, but i did not find a solution... (and probably 'the best licence' is not the same for everyone) i want to: > -encourage (re)using and building upon my patches and sharing the results. If that's what you want, evidence sug

Re: [PD] best licence for pd-patches?

2017-04-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> i heard, and then read,  that GPL patches CAN be run in closed source systems > running libpd, etc.it's just GPL externals that you can't use without sharing > the code.  Whether this is true or not, I think it's largely irrelevant. If company X is a reputable company selling proprietary soft

Re: [PD] data structures question ...

2017-05-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
If there's anything here I haven't already added to Purr Data wrt data structures, please add it to the issue tracker:https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues I've already got one outstanding about receiving events for array elements but have not implemented it yet:https://git.purrdata

Re: [PD] should I use pddp/link in help patches?

2017-06-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> The [link] object is great for linking between help files, but I don't know how many people use it now that Extended has gone. By way of a survey, how many people have this external installed already? Seems like it will just be a nuisance if people have to download it just to read a help p

Re: [PD] while i'm whining....undo on changing the size of object boxes or message boxes would be nice

2017-06-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I often find i accidentally resize message boxes or object boxes.  There's no > undo for this, and then i have to tediously grab the right hand corner of the > box and put it back. Turns out you can undo this in Purr Data/Pd-l2ork. > Would be nice to have undo on thisor if not, is there

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-0test1 released

2017-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi Miller, Should there be a compatibility path for the following bugfix: https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/pure-data/ci/fc1dd9b0d93e9b039719103155b5772f20762c7e/ Looks like the old behavior was there for awhile. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mail

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-0test1 released

2017-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> That's just the question - is it worth keeping an old bug available for compatibility?  In this case, perhaps yes - although you'd have to explicitly set a compatibility flag in Pd to get eh old behavior. > (incidentally teh old behavior was machine-dependent - this complicates it even furthe

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-0test1 released

2017-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
(excepting one unexplained edge case) that almost certainly has resulted in patches out in the wild behaving and/or sounding one way and not another. A compatibility case seems warranted for this. -Jonathan > M On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 06:51:03PM +0000, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >

Re: [PD] your favorite key:value data structure?

2017-07-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Variable number of keys of arbitrarily typed values, or set number of keys with set value types? -Jonathan From: Ali Momeni To: Pd-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:09 PM Subject: [PD] your favorite key:value data structure? Hello all, I'm looking for something analogous to the

Re: [PD] your favorite key:value data structure?

2017-07-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hello Jonathan, > Thanks for your reply. > I'm not quite sure what you mean. > What pd-vanilla object do you use to implement "Variable number of keys of > arbitrarily typed values" [text], [coll], etc. > or "set number of keys with set value types"?data structures The benefit of the latter

Re: [PD] your favorite key:value data structure?

2017-07-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> By default, "search" matches only lines whose first field(s) match the search key(s).  OTOH, if you have a duplicate key and want to find anything besides the first occurence of the key it will be tricky. Could also just reimplement dogensym in Pd. :) -Jonathan > cheers > Miller #N s

Re: [PD] Symbol box interface improvement suggestion

2017-07-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hey all > So often I see people getting confused with symbol boxes. Its current interface design is contrary to what most people are used to from other software. Every text entry that I can think of gives a visual cue to indicate keyboard input is expected. However, when you click symbol box

Re: [PD] New users and external path struggles

2017-07-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> yeah, this worked because of libdir. A few details: * The Pd extended libdir loader searches for a $LIBNAME-meta.pd file. If it finds it it adds the directory containing it to the global search path.* namespace prefixes (probably better referred to as directory prefixes) will add the prefix

Re: [PD] New users and external path struggles

2017-07-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> None will clash with the others. > that's also true for Pd vanilla! Yes-- the class loader behavior I described is part of the Pd vanilla codebase. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://li

Re: [PD] hexloader incorporated into vanilla?

2017-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Howdy, don't think this has ever been discussed... sorry if it had. > So, we need externals with non-alphanumeric names to be loaded into a > multi-object library, loaded via start up. If you have them as a set of > single-object binaries, the only option seems to be [hexloader] (a third > pa

Re: [PD] hexloader incorporated into vanilla?

2017-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Sorry, I just noticed this message. > Pd's default loader mechanism has a "hexloader" in it. Nevermind-- it appears to be vestigial, as only the non-hexmunged name is used for the filename. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRI

[PD] Purr Data 2.3.0 released

2017-08-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list, Purr Data 2.3.0 is out: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases Report issues here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://list

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.3.0 released

2017-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> 2017-08-23 15:03 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list : Hi list, Purr Data 2.3.0 is out: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/ purr-data/releases > hey, I realize this is a github link, do you take merge requests from there? No. -Jonathan ___ P

Re: [PD] purr data duplicate undo

2017-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hey - > every now and then using purr data i find that i have inadvertently made > duplicate objects/msgs etc> that are directly in front of each other. > I've finally figured out that this is happening with the following sequence:  > cmd +d , cmd+z I see. It appears the undo history gets gen

[PD] Purr Data 2.3.2

2017-09-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi List,Purr Data 2.3.2 is now available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.3.2 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data This release fixes the "-unique" flag for running multiple instances, fixes [pd~] on Windows, and fixes a GUI bug and some error

Re: [PD] purr data 2.3.2's gem on windows 10

2017-09-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hello List, > 1. Please don't ask why i use windows. > 2. please tell me if there is a better place to post about this. > 3. i installed purr-data 2.3.2 (and other versions before) on windows 10 > (x64). > gem is included but i startup i get : > GEM: image loading support: SGI > only > an

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> thanks everyone, this is really helpful. > in light of your experiences, it seems like the best of all worlds might > be to use a modern computer/os with Purr Data for editing, make sure to > stick with vanilla only objects, and use vanilla for deploying. Just for reference-- I developed

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Many of my patches that I developed on Pure Data don't run without > modification in Purr Data. Some crash at loading, some look graphically > weird Typically, "crashers" and "freezers" get fixed pretty quick in Purr Data. The only freezer I remember with one of your patches was due to a broke

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Purr Data looks like a continuity of pd-extended, anyway all pd versions > are obsolete since they aren't fully 64bit compatible. Do most audio devices now require a 64-bit driver under Windows? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRI

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Great the Jonathan has joined this thread. > What keeps Purr data from running the latest pd core (0.48) and leaving aside > things that Purr can do that vanilla > can't (i.e. $0 in message box), are there any concerns going the other way? > i.e. basic things that vanilla can do that Purr cant?

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> If supporting pure vanilla patches to their full extent would be a > stated goal of the Pure Data project, I'd have some incentive to report > stuff, but it seems it isn't. Supporting Pd Vanilla patches to their fullest extend is a goal of Purr Data. What are the crashers you are experiencing

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I will let you know as soon as I'm on a machine that I can install a > pre-compiled deb package of Purr Data on. Unfortunately, my personal > laptop is still running Ubuntu 16.04 i386 because I've been upgrading > for a couple of years and I never installed from scratch. Oh, I see. No rush, th

Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: why not Purr Data?

2017-10-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I like how Pd-l2ork/Purr Data has many new features, like infinite undo, > arrays with bars. By the way, what's the shortcut to > automatically encapsulate a part of your patch as a subpatch in pd-lork/purr > data? I saw something once where you could select > a portion of the patch and do it

Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: why not Purr Data?

2017-10-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> So basically I guess you're telling me that I should either 1) upgrade to a > faster mac > or 2) move from using PurrData to using PureData Vanilla, to get rid of the > GOP-within-GOP-within-GOP -induced CPU spikes and high CPU usage I've been > having with my mid-2009 MacBookPro with PurrDat

Re: [PD] purr data 2.3.2's gem on windows 10

2017-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hello Jonathan and Alexandre , > i just saw the git commits . > but will wait for next build. > or try a build next week. > i already tried but failed miserably :-) > i 'll retry and give feedback, > i justed wanted to ask if your modifications will give support for > avi? > mpg? > qu

[PD] Purr Data 2.3.3 released

2017-10-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list, Purr Data 2.3.3 is out. * improve performance of ggee/image * allow loading jpegs in Gem under Windows Releases here: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.3.3 Report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues -Jonathan ___

Re: [PD] why not Purr Data?

2017-10-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> On Mon, 2017-10-02 at 18:34 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> > If supporting pure vanilla patches to their full extent would be a >> > stated goal of the Pure Data project, I'd have some incentive to >> report >> > stuff, but it seems it isn't. >> >> Supporting Pd Vanilla patches to their ful

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.0

2017-10-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hello list, Purr Data 2.4.0 is now out: * fixed a bug where the preferences wouldn't load properly on some OSX systems * added [draw svg] for a graphical viewport * fixed display bugs with [draw image] and [draw sprite] * added experimental [draw array] for visualizing array data Binaries here:

Re: [PD] object names with "."

2017-10-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> and how come underline works just fine? Because Pd's loader mechanism searches for the symbol "${libname}_setup", where "${libname}" is the name of the library being loaded. If you make sure that "${libname}" is drawn from the set of characters thatcan appear in a C function name, then users

Re: [PD] object names with "."

2017-10-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~] As a practical matter, I still don't understand why you are trying to use "." instead of "_". -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.

Re: [PD] object names with "."

2017-10-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> why do you think you are missing something? > I usually do that, cause I'm not a programmer [...] > I also see this pattern here and there, so I'm > not coming up with this, would anyone have something > against using "."? You said above you are not a programmer above, so I'll thrown i

Re: [PD] initbang in vanilla (was Re: how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?)

2017-10-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> I see... somehow I got terribly confused and thought there was a > discussion to include it in vanilla, which would make sense to me. There were many requests to include it in Pd Vanilla. Check the mailing list archives. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lis

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list, Purr Data 2.4.1 is out: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.1 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues * update [expr] family to the same codebase as Pd Vanilla 0.48 * fix bug that prevented file path in [draw image] from working * f

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Congrats! > Do you know how to install it on Ubuntu 17.10? I tried installing the 16.04 > binary but I get a bunch of dependency problems. You could try compiling it: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data#linux -Jonathan > Antonio On 23 October 2017 at 03:38, Jonathan W

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> according to https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues/334#note_3320 That hasn't been updated in awhile. -Jonathan > 2017-06-22 5:06 GMT-03:00 Albert Gräf : > I've got a PPA for Ubuntu 17.04 up at my Launchpad page > (https://launchpad.net/~dr- graef/+archive/ubuntu/pd- l2ork.zest

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
I'll try setting up a CI machine for 17.04 later... -Jonathan From: Antonio Roberts To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres ; Pd-List Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1 I've tried compiling and there's a few missing packages that ca

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Any joy in setting it up? I haven't tried yet. I'll see if I can get a 17.04 runner up for the next release (today or tomorrow). > I tried on a different machine and still getting compilation errors. What compilation errors? I thought you were reporting package installation errors. -Jonathan

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-10-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
>> I haven't tried yet. I'll see if I can get a 17.04 runner up for the next >> release (today or tomorrow). > What about 17.10? It's there where libgsl0ldbl and slv2-jack are missing Oops, I misunderstood the Ubuntu LTS versioning scheme. I don't want to add another runner until the 18 series.

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.2 released

2017-11-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list, A new release of Purr Data is available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases Please report bugs to https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues * fixed freeze when flooding the Pd window with messages * fixed array tick label positioning * fix array trace line thickne

Re: [PD] Purr Data 2.4.1

2017-11-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Looking here it doesn't seem so. https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef stops > at Zesty :-( > He now has a test PPA for 17.10 here: https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef/+archive/ubuntu/test -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.3 released

2017-11-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list,Purr Data 2.4.3 is now available:https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases Report bugs here:https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes:* fixes to [draw array] and [draw svg], plus some tutorials for using it * fix bug where OSX 10.8 binary wouldn't work on 10.8 withou

Re: [PD] purr data window display

2017-11-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hi there , > I've noticed some strange behavior using Purr Data on macOs Sierra 10.12.5  > (tested on purr data 2.4.2 and 2.4.3). > After I first open the application, whatever I try to do first doesn’t seem > to display. I can't seem to reproduce this. What is printed to the main Pd Window

Re: [PD] purr data window display

2017-11-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Try removing the xsample libraries from your startup libs and see if you still get the bug. -Jonathan From: school shoes To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" ; Jonathan Wilkes Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [PD] purr data window display #yiv5648891961 #yiv5648891

Re: [PD] purr data window display

2017-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> OK great that seems to have done the trick!  Does that mean xsample is not  > compatible with Purr Data? The xsample objects do work once the patch loads > up.  Thanks for your help I seem to remember flext-based externals spitting a bunch of tcl at the GUI. Purr Data is supposed to shuttle su

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.4 released

2017-12-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list,Purr Data 2.4.4 is now available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.4 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes:* fixed dangling selection rectangle when a new patch window gains focus* added Pd Vanilla fudiparse and fudiform

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.5

2017-12-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list,Purr Data 2.4.5 is available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.5 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes * remove [midiclkin]* handle [draw] events correctly for nested data structure arrays * improve the deb package build

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.6

2017-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi List,A bugfix release for Purr Data is now available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.6 This fixes a GOP crasher and a regression with events for nested data structures. Please report bugs to: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Best, Jonathan ___

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.7 released

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Purr Data 2.4.7 is available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.7 This is another bugfix release to keep Purr Data from freezing in certain situations with graph-on-parent patches* fix graph-on-parent issues with vumeter and radio objects * clean up the readme (t

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.8 released

2018-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list, Purr Data 2.4.8 is now available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.8 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes: * refactor the GUI to get rid of some of the GUI freeze problems with various GUI widgets * update wiringPi

Re: [PD] stale pointers after object creation (was Re: pix_data issue)

2018-02-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> a glist (list of graphical objects) is internally implemented as a linked > list. usually, a big > advantage of a linked lists is that adding/deleting elements won't touch > other elements > (especially doesn't move them in memory, like it can happen with dynamically > sized arrays). That

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