Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Attached is [maketime], a lovely little timer/stopwatch. I've long since lost track of who made it, so I'm sorry can't give you well-deserved credit here. At any rate, it creates *at least* one symbol per second (probably more, I'm not

Re: [PD] finding funding to the PdCon09

2009-02-23 Thread Loic Kessous
I just joined the Pd (I switched from max) a few month ago, and I would be very happy to join too, an I'm also french, so if someone has news about this oprion, please tell me. loic On Feb 21, 2009, at 1:51 AM, David Doukhan wrote: 2009/2/21 Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com: Aparently it

[PD] libflac7

2009-02-23 Thread Georg Werner
hi, i installed Pd-extended recently on xubuntu and found the tutorial on floss manuals ( http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/InstallingUbuntu ) very useful. my question: is Pd still depending on libflac7 and libjasper? if yes, the repositories for feisty have to be updated: deb

Re: [PD] libflac7

2009-02-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I recently stripped out obsolete packages from the build server, so current builds should only have distro-appropriate versions of the library. If not, please file a bug report so it'll get fixed. .hc On Feb 23, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Georg Werner wrote: hi, i installed Pd-extended recently

[PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-23 Thread Sebastien Lelong
Hi guys, I've recently discovered Pure Data as versatile platform I could use to build a robotic GUI. The idea is to collect data from a robot, send it to an OSC (open source control) server, get the data in pd~ and deal with it. One important aspect would be to plot data, in real-time, so the

Re: [PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Sebastien Lelong hat gesagt: // Sebastien Lelong wrote: I've recently discovered Pure Data as versatile platform I could use to build a robotic GUI. The idea is to collect data from a robot, send it to an OSC (open source control) server, get the data in pd~ and deal with it. One

[PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Geoff
Hi I am using PD-extended 0.40.3 on a Macbook osx 10.4 but I cannot seem to get the GEM bits to work. I am going through the PMPD example patches but none of the GEM objects work. I have looked into the contents of PD extended and I can see lots of help files related to GEM in there. But

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Jack
Have you installed X11 ? What did you get in your console when you start Pd ? ++ Jack Le 23 févr. 09 à 19:09, Geoff a écrit : Hi I am using PD-extended 0.40.3 on a Macbook osx 10.4 but I cannot seem to get the GEM bits to work. I am going through the PMPD example patches but none of the

Re: [PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-23 Thread Sebastien Lelong
Hi Frank, Thanks for your help. I'm getting things that kind of scroll... building an horrible patch :) Some values are random, I guess I have a problem when access extremities of the array. I'm sure there's something simpler, probably using trigger, but I can't figure out how I could use a

Re: [PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Schied
Hi! Sebastien Lelong wrote: So far so good, I've been able to build all the OSC part, and even plot things in a array in pd~, but I can only find a way to plot data from left to right, and when array's end is reached, clear it and start from beginning again. In other words, I can't make it

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Phil Stone
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Attached is [maketime], a lovely little timer/stopwatch. I've long since lost track of who made it, so I'm sorry can't give you well-deserved credit here. At any rate, it creates *at least* one symbol per second

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 18:42 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 17:30 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: Maybe you could try it (I just uploaded it to the svn at http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/mrpeach/net/) and see

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Peach
From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Reply-To: reduzie...@yahoo.de To: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca CC: PD list pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:50:44 +0100 On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 18:42 -0500, Martin Peach wrote:

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Phil Stone wrote: Just to see the magnitude of the issue, I made a little test patch (attached) called [symbol_pig]. It just creates symbols, very fast. A very rough measurement based on watching resident memory increasing in bash's top command indicates that (on OS X

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Jack
Maybe, remove your pref : org.puredata.pd.plist in ~/Library/ Preferences/ and retry. ++ Jack Le 23 févr. 09 à 20:08, Geoff a écrit : Just installed X11 from OSX 10.4 dvd I get the following on start up libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Conor Higgins
Geoff, I am having a similar problem, you can fix it by getting rid of that plist file but there's no guarantee with that either. I had to add each library to the startup path on my own machine but the artist I am working with can't do this with libraries like Gem or PDP or PiDiP, So i

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 19:10 +, Martin Peach wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Reply-To: reduzie...@yahoo.de To: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca CC: PD list pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:50:44

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Geoff
Hi tried killing both preference files related to PD Still no joy :( Within the start up of PD there are problems mentioned to do with X11 i,e, wrong architecture. But I wouldn't really know what that meant. thanks for the ideas. geoff Referenced from:

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Geoff
I did install the X11 software from the apple osx 10.4 dvd. Tried getting rid of both plist files. but no joy yet. geoff On 23 Feb 2009, at 19:35, Conor Higgins wrote: Geoff, I am having a similar problem, you can fix it by getting rid of that plist file but there's no guarantee with

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Conor Higgins
right hold on a second try this link and let me know if it works... http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.3.2.1 Conor On 23 Feb 2009, at 19:56, Geoff wrote: I did install the X11 software from the apple osx 10.4 dvd. Tried getting rid of both plist files. but no joy yet. geoff

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 19:10 +, Martin Peach wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Reply-To: reduzie...@yahoo.de To: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca CC: PD list pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:50:44

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Peach
From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Reply-To: reduzie...@yahoo.de To: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:59:41 +0100 On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 19:10 +, Martin Peach wrote: From:

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Geoff
I tried the linked disk image unfortunately It won't let me install it as I am running osx 10.4 not 10.5 damn geoff On 23 Feb 2009, at 19:57, Conor Higgins wrote: right hold on a second try this link and let me know if it works... http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.3.2.1

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Peach
Roman Haefeli wrote: with the newest [tcpserver] i cannot send messages to clients anymore. i tried both, 'send socketnumber' and 'client number'. whenever [tcpserver] receives such a message, pd is blocked for about a second and the i get in the console: tcpserver_send_buf: client

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: A fix for this maketime would be to reuse the symbols :00 ... :59 for minutes and hours by using two [cnv] objects for these. Then you would be able to let the clock run for decades before you get into trouble with the

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Phil Stone
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: A fix for this maketime would be to reuse the symbols :00 ... :59 for minutes and hours by using two [cnv] objects for these. Then you would be able to let the clock run for decades

Re: [PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Sebastien Lelong hat gesagt: // Sebastien Lelong wrote: Thanks for your help. I'm getting things that kind of scroll... building an horrible patch :) Some values are random, I guess I have a problem when access extremities of the array. I'm sure there's something simpler, probably

[PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-23 Thread yohannes
hello everybody, maybe sounds absurd: is it possible to cancel an whole signal of an mic input through phase-canceling? if yes, how can i do dat in pd? thanks a lot, yohannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 21:03 +, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: with the newest [tcpserver] i cannot send messages to clients anymore. i tried both, 'send socketnumber' and 'client number'. whenever [tcpserver] receives such a message, pd is blocked for about a second

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:55 -0800, Phil Stone wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: A fix for this maketime would be to reuse the symbols :00 ... :59 for minutes and hours by using two [cnv] objects for

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 22:42 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Personally I'd do heavy text processing in something like pdlua. Pd feels awkward when processing text. but even if you do not heavy text processing, there are ways to pollute the symbol table heavily. it is sufficient to only

Re: [PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-23 Thread Derek Holzer
multiply the mic signal by -1 using [*~ -1], then add it back to the original signal using [+~] d. yohannes wrote: is it possible to cancel an whole signal of an mic input through phase-canceling? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique

Re: [PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-23 Thread mbutubuntu
Hello Pd Folks!!! I need a little help in general the object [s foo] sends values or messages to a global variable named foo... is there in Pd a way to make the variable foo private ??? (working only in a subpatch)... ___ Pd-list@iem.at

[PD] private varibles

2009-02-23 Thread mbutubuntu
Sorry for the wrong object mbutubuntu wrote: Hello Pd Folks!!! I need a little help in general the object [s foo] sends values or messages to a global variable named foo... is there in Pd a way to make the variable foo private ??? (working only in a subpatch)...

Re: [PD] private varibles

2009-02-23 Thread Derek Holzer
use creation arguments in the subpatch. [pd mysubpatch some_creation_argument] [s $1-foo] [r $1-foo] d. or something like that. mbutubuntu wrote: Sorry for the wrong object mbutubuntu wrote: Hello Pd Folks!!! I need a little help in general the object [s foo] sends values or

Re: [PD] finding funding to the PdCon09

2009-02-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Here's the re-usable chunks of the grant I just submitted to the Jerome Foundation, please use it however you see fit: Statement of Trip Purpose I will go to Brazil to attend a conference and meet with local artists to further explore the relationship between art and software tools as seen

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Peach
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 21:03 +, Martin Peach wrote: OK I fixed it now in svn. It works on debian. The select() call was not being done properly. Now I need to test it on Windows again. hey, many thanks! it works. now i wonder, what happens, if the message is

Re: [PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-23 Thread Charles Henry
Simply put, all variables are global. In objects (not messages), use $0 as part of the variable name to give it an unique identifier. Within your patch, anywhere you use $0, it is the same number. $0 generated when the patch is created and is different for every instance of a patch. There's

Re: [PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-23 Thread Charles Henry
Hi, yohannes No, it's not absurd. Tell us a little bit more about your application. I am out of the project game for now, but have some long term goals for solving this sort of problem. For example, you send a sound out your speakers. You want to recieve a new sound from the room on

Re: [PD] pd and tcp: what to do against crashes?

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 19:05 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 21:03 +, Martin Peach wrote: OK I fixed it now in svn. It works on debian. The select() call was not being done properly. Now I need to test it on Windows again. hey, many thanks! it

[PD] A non-leaky stopwatch

2009-02-23 Thread Phil Stone
Hello, Attached is a stopwatch, derived from [maketime], that doesn't pollute the symbol table (i.e., indefinitely leak memory), thanks to Frank B.'s idea for keeping the symbols re-usable. It has one-second grain, so it does not keep track of partial seconds between stops and

Re: [PD] private varibles

2009-02-23 Thread marius schebella
Derek Holzer wrote: use creation arguments in the subpatch. [pd mysubpatch some_creation_argument] [s $1-foo] [r $1-foo] d. the above might be confusing, because you cannot send creation argumets to subpatches, only to externals. you also cannot separate the namespace of the parent

[PD] Pd-extended on Ubuntu Intrepid 64bit success

2009-02-23 Thread danomatika
Howdy all, I got PD-extended to build a 64bit deb for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid following the guide on puredata.org: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux I added a few notes to the guide and I will see what happens when I setup my full environment. For pdp: I had to add a 3rd argument to

[PD] streaming audio and video in Linux

2009-02-23 Thread John Harrison
Somebody was just asking me about options for streaming audio and video in Pd-extended. I wouldn't mind help with the answer. Here's what I have gathered so far. Audio: * streamin~ and streamout~ --- but the help patches don't seem to work in Linux. Seems to work ok in windows. *

Re: [PD] pd on Ubuntu 64bit?

2009-02-23 Thread danomatika
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 17:24 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: august wrote: danomatika wrote: Has anyone been using pd on a 64 bit GNU/Linux OS? i've been running Pd (vanilla, + zexy,Gem and all myother stuff and some stuff by others) on 64bit debian for

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: bash's top command indicates that (on OS X 10.4), a megabyte is used up for approximately every 32,000 symbols. So you can generate 128 million different symbols with a 4 GB RAM machine. :) Not quite.

Re: [PD] pd on Ubuntu 64bit?

2009-02-23 Thread John Harrison
danomatika wrote: I made a 64bit build of pd-extended using the pd core (0.41 I believe) from the pd-extended svn and it has this table bug. It seems to only access half of the table, at least in the C08 and C09 audio example patches. They work fine in my build using pd-vanilla 0.42.4.

Re: [PD] pd on Ubuntu 64bit?

2009-02-23 Thread danomatika
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 00:03 -0600, John Harrison wrote: danomatika wrote: I made a 64bit build of pd-extended using the pd core (0.41 I believe) from the pd-extended svn and it has this table bug. It seems to only access half of the table, at least in the C08 and C09 audio example

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Max
There is no need for X11 if you want to use GEM. only PDP/PidiP and Gridflow depend on X11, but you said you want to run GEM. the errors you posted suggest that you probably use a build for intel in a PPC machine or the other way round. make sure you have downloaded the right version for

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Phil Stone wrote: Oh! Very good. I didn't realize that an identical symbol would get re-used. For completeness' sake, I will make a new [ps-stopwatch] that does not leak (and is plain vanilla, to boot). Yes, it's re-used, which sort of goes with the fact that it

Re: [PD] symbol anxiety

2009-02-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Roman Haefeli wrote: for instance, when using OSC, probably every message is a new symbol. so i guess, it cannot be avoided, even if text processing is done outside of pd, unless a string type is introduced (is that correct?). Every OSC target is a symbol, just like every

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Max wrote: There is no need for X11 if you want to use GEM. only PDP/PidiP and Gridflow depend on X11, but you said you want to run GEM. With GridFlow, X11 is optional, SDL is optional, Quartz is optional. You can use whichever you want. If you want a window, you need at

Re: [PD] Dynamically created signal object bug

2009-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Luke Iannini hat gesagt: // Luke Iannini wrote: Here's another bug I've just managed to boil down and reproduce. I'm kind of surprised at this one - I thought it was a pretty common thing to dynamically spawn signal objects. The bug is: a dynamically spawned abstraction containing