Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deken v0.3.0: new fileformat for library packages

2018-03-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2018-03-08 at 17:09 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > we are proud to announce a major overhaul of the deken fileformat. [...] > - (optionally) uninstall libraries before re-installing them Yay! Thanks for your work. Nice development of matters. Roman signature.asc Description: This

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deken v0.3.0: new fileformat for library packages

2018-03-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
At the risk of not being helpful to the issue by adding another opinion, I disagree. Or rather: I do not really follow you. I don't see any problem with deken installing into a hidden folder. It's a pretty common thing on all OSs. Just a have a look at the contents of ~/Library, %AppData%\, ~/.loca

Re: [PD] [convolve~] version 0.11 testing

2018-03-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 20:58 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Hi William, > Are you aware of --> https://github.com/pure-data/pd-lib-builder > This will ease building on many platforms including the upcoming > windows64bit. > You will like it. > : ) Just in case, you're going to use pd-lib-build

[PD] pad sound with Pd

2018-03-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I'm wondering how to do the most silky pad sound in Pd. I'm curious what strategies people use and am also interested in patches if people don't mind sharing. It came up because of a track I was working on that I was only half happy with the pad part. Roman signature.asc Description: Thi

Re: [PD] pad sound with Pd

2018-03-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2018-03-20 at 22:09 +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Try s_pad in rjlib: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib Oh yeah. There's a lot that can be tweaked with this one. Will have to try it out in a polyphony setup. Anyway, there are a lot of interesting sounds to check out. Thanks for pointing me to it

Re: [PD] reporting the dimensions of a symbol / float atom

2018-03-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-03-21 at 13:08 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > The problem is that when I move from one system to another, many of > my abstractions fail to display correctly, because the atoms fall > outside of the GOP area. (See the attached image: the GOP area was > set in 0.47, but it won't display

[PD] changing GOP size dynamically without dirty flag

2018-03-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-03-21 at 13:08 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > An external object that reported the system standard dimensions would > offer a solution, since you could then set the abstraction to resize > itself according to the system. This reminds of my finding, that when using 'donecanvasdialog' to

Re: [PD] changing GOP size dynamically without dirty flag

2018-03-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-03-21 at 14:57 +0100, oliver wrote: > > > > > > Is there a way to adjust the GOP size without marking the instance > > of > > the abstraction/patch dirty? > > [..] send it a message like this: > > [donecanvasdialog 1 -1 3 0 -1 1 1 100 100 10 10, dirty 0( > | > [send YOURNAME] Cool

Re: [PD] reporting the dimensions of a symbol / float atom

2018-03-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-03-21 at 18:52 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > It would certainly help me to have be able to query atom sizes. I see your point and the benefit of such a feature. Independent of that, I'd like to be able to count on consistent box sizes across platforms and future Pd versions.  > BTW,

Re: [PD] cannot 'upgrade' old patch

2018-03-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2018-03-22 at 07:44 +0100, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > hi list, > > i have old patches made with Pdext 42.5. > when opened with Vanilla 48.1 i get lots of uncreated objects (of  > course). > > some of them i'm not able to 'repair'. > e.g. [symbol2list] > > i put in a [declare -stdpath -zexy -s

Re: [PD] Discussing, exchanging pd-generated music

2018-03-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Son, 2018-03-25 at 15:02 +0200, jlistshit wrote: > OT question: What other list might exist to discuss/exchange etc > mostly the music that people produce with PD, rather than the > technical details? Open to all styles here, though with a focus on > generative, electro-acoustic, composition, no

Re: [PD] add inlets to [ctlin]

2018-03-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sam, 2018-03-31 at 14:18 +0100, mario buoninfante wrote: > Hi all, > > > is there any particular reason why on [ctlin] there are no inlets > that  > allow to change MIDI channel and control number on the fly? > > do you guys think it would be useful to have it? Probably, but when creating it

Re: [PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

2018-04-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
yawn. On Son, 2018-04-01 at 17:42 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Hi, currently, if you want to use $0, you need an object cause it > becomes "0" when it's inside messages. > > Pd-l2ork and Purr Data implemented a way that $0 works in the same > way as in objects than in messages, an

Re: [PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

2018-04-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 11:26 +0200, João Pais wrote: >  > For me, I can't count how many times I had to add a [$0], or a pack > or some extra workaround before a message so that I could send > messages to my variables (I hardly use variables without a $0). I can't count how many times I had to loop

Re: [PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

2018-04-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 05:01 -0700, Derek Kwan wrote: > > For me, I can't count how many times I had to add a [$0], or a pack > > or > > some extra workaround before a message so that I could send > > messages > > to my variables (I hardly use variables without a $0). > > > > Joao > I do face this

Re: [PD] [list] example3.pd crash on Pd-0.48.1 / Linux

2018-04-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-04-04 at 02:52 +0900, Jonghyun Kim wrote: > Hi list, > > The problematic patch is: > > pd/doc/5.reference/example3.pd It's actually in the help of [list] in the serializer example. > this patch only crashed on 0.48.1. It's ok on old version of Pd. > > I don't know why? It's a bug

Re: [PD] PD on a Rasberry Pi

2018-04-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Jackson On Mit, 2018-04-04 at 14:58 +, jackson re-al wrote: > Someone reached out earlier to see if anyone had experience running > PD on a Pi. > > If anyone here could help out then please give me a shout - It would > be much appreciated. What OS is running on the RPi? Some more info ab

Re: [PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

2018-04-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2018-04-03 at 13:52 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > Why is nobody complaining about not being able to use the third > > creation argument directly withing a message? What's the fuzz about > the > > $0? > > $0 isn't part of the argument vector. It's certainly not part of the incoming me

Re: [PD] shrinking subpatches!?

2018-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2018-04-05 at 22:55 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > in the project I'm working on I have a couple of subpatches which > shrink vertically whenever I close and open them...  > I made a funny little patch to demonstrate the issue. can anyone > reproduce this on his/her machine?  I cannot repr

Re: [PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

2018-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2018-04-05 at 21:17 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > test? https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/346 Better do than talk, hey? ;-) Works fine and is definitely convenient. Can't see any disadvantage or problem with compatibility, though it challenges my notion of how things are supposed t

[PD] purest_json: how to specify root CA or CA bundle when using SSL?

2018-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all Somehow using HTTPS with purest_json just worked(tm) in Debian Jessie. Now, that I had to compile purest_json myself, I'm having troubles verifying the server. I'm getting:     77 Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) when accessing a resource through HTTPS with [rest].  H

Re: [PD] purest_json: how to specify root CA or CA bundle when using SSL?

2018-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-04-25 at 11:04 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2018-04-25 10:59, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Somehow using HTTPS with purest_json just worked(tm) in Debian > > Jessie. > > Now, that I had to compile purest_json myself, > btw, what is wrong

Re: [PD] purest_json: how to specify root CA or CA bundle when using SSL?

2018-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-04-25 at 13:08 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mit, 2018-04-25 at 11:04 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > > On 2018-04-25 10:59, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > > > > > Somehow using HTTPS with purest_json just worked(tm) in Deb

Re: [PD] purest_json: how to specify root CA or CA bundle when using SSL?

2018-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2018-04-25 at 14:11 +0200, Thomas Mayer wrote: >  > Maybe you could replace libcurl4-nss-dev with libcurl4-gnutls-dev or > libcurl4-openssl-dev for compiling purest_json. Ah, i see. When only libcurl4-openssl-dev is installed and the others removed, the resulting [rest] successfully valida

Re: [PD] Piano roll sequence display

2018-04-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 11:20 -0400, William Brent wrote: > Has anyone done something like this using [struct]/[polygon], even > just for sequence display purposes and not editable via mouse > clicking/dragging? I did a quick search of the archives but haven't > found anything. There is unstep[1] in

Re: [PD] watchdog

2018-05-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 06:29 +0200, michael strohmann wrote: > Hello, > i wonder if it is possible to setup something on raspberry, so that > the puredata-watchdog will restart pd-0.48.0 automatically? > where could i look up the mechanics of this, unfortunatly i am not a > unix crack… Are you ref

Re: [PD] watchdog

2018-05-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 09:42 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 06:29 +0200, michael strohmann wrote: > > Hello, > > i wonder if it is possible to setup something on raspberry, so that > > the puredata-watchdog will restart pd-0.48.0 automatically? > >

Re: [PD] watchdog

2018-05-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 11:56 +0200, Jack wrote: > If you have several instances of Pd, it is also doable to do > something > like : > > pd -open yourpatch1.pd & > PID1=$! > pd -open yourpatch2.pd & > PID2=$! > > while true > do > if [ ! -d /proc/$PID1 ] > then > pd -open yourpatch1

Re: [PD] PD won't run on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-05-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-05-04 at 04:15 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I can't get PD 0.48.1 to run on a fresh installation of 18.04 LTS. It > compiled fine, but when I try to run PD I get: > > sh: 1: wish: not found > > I've tried "sudo apt-get install tcl" but this didn't help. > > It looks like others are

Re: [PD] static array/text

2018-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-05-07 at 00:02 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Is there one way to define a "static" table or text data that can be > shared among abstractions? I have a few abstractions which use lookup > tables and I realize now that they are basically creating a copy with > each instance when they could

Re: [PD] Escaping/not resolving dollar argts in msgs/objects?

2018-05-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 04:15 -0700, Derek Kwan wrote: > Hello list, > > Perhaps a bit of a long shot and pretty much the exact opposite of > the $0 > in messages conversations as of late: Is there a way to NOT resolve > dollar arguments in messages and/or objects? I think you cannot dynamically di

Re: [PD] Escaping/not resolving dollar argts in msgs/objects?

2018-05-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 14:09 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > > [obj 20 20 array define $$1-snd0] > > this only works as long as you don't save and reopen the patch, where > "$$1" will become "$\$1" (which is resolved to "$\\$1" instead of > "\\$1"). I see. Thanks for pointing it out. Roman signat

[PD] Data structures - delete specific scalar?

2018-05-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all Following up a thread from 2011: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-04/088306.html I would like to know whether it is impossible to delete a specific scalar, by pointer. If so, why is that? Does it use a design that makes it difficult to allow this? To my untrained eye the

Re: [PD] Data structures - delete specific scalar?

2018-05-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
stic than the clear-all-and-rebuild method. My goal is to build GUIs with ds that are fully functional without requiring switching into edit mode. I'd be interested in hearing about similar success (or failure) stories. Roman On 05/18/2018 11:36 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > Hey all &g

Re: [PD] Data structures - delete specific scalar?

2018-05-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2018-05-19 at 17:00 +0200, Ingo Stock wrote: > On 05/19/2018 11:56 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > Yeah. It's not very elegant and gets expensive pretty quickly. I > > was > > wondering about alternative strategies, like moving non-used > > scalars > >

Re: [PD] Data structures - delete specific scalar?

2018-05-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 05:40 -0700, Derek Kwan wrote: > Roman Haefeli writes: > > > Hey all > > > > Following up a thread from 2011: > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-04/088306.html > If I'm not mistaken, this relates to a thread I st

Re: [PD] Data structures - delete specific scalar?

2018-05-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 15:31 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > this has been on my wish list for a while and I want to do a PR. do > you guys have suggestions which kind of interface you would prefer? > these come to my mind: > * [delete] object: send it a pointer and it will delete the scalar I thoug

Re: [PD] Trigger/Gate

2018-05-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Rainer On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 18:55 +0200, Rabbit ́s . wrote: > Hi there, > > I´m doing a sequencer in pd for my modular rig starting with a > trigger/gate abstraction that should bang the analog envelopes & > friends. A very simple approach starting as trigger and ends up in > variable gatelen

Re: [PD] [soundfiler] - get rid of the arbitrary default value for "-maxsize"

2018-05-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2018-05-26 at 16:37 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/366 > > I guess that arbitrary 16MB default maxsize is a relict of past > times... let's get rid of it :-) You make it sound like the reason for the limit was precious memory. I agree that memor

Re: [PD] Random

2018-05-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 11:30 -0300, José de Abreu wrote: > if you can use adc~ (assuming that your mic can capture some noise) > you can sum some snapshots~ with high gain and then voilà, random > number each time Attached is a method that doesn't require audio to be on (and thus also no real adc~)

Re: [PD] intelligent patching

2018-06-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi IOhannes I think those additions are immensely useful. Thanks a lot for porting them and thanks to Jonathan and Ivica for implementing them (I hope I thanked all persons involved, and would like to include those that I didn't know about). On Wed, 2018-06-06 at 15:37 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig

Re: [PD] standard paths for externals

2018-06-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 16:16 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Well, there has definitely been results in the design of Pd that came > out of recent discussions. Let me point again to what Miller said in > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119839.html to > highlight the n

Re: [PD] standard paths for externals

2018-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Dan Thanks for trying to explain. On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 01:18 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > There seems to be a bit of FUD in this "discussion." Maybe things aren't that bad as they were presented. For my part, I lost track of who favors what kind of design. > Some things from my perspective:

Re: [PD] standard paths for externals

2018-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 14:18 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > Now, I'm going to load mylib with [declare -{std}path mylib] in my > > patch which fails. What am I missing here? > > Yes, there's the declare issue we know and are addressing, but I'd > also like to highlight that Deken also

[PD] [PD-announce] Release of tpf-client / tpf-server

2018-07-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all Let me a announce a by product that was created while working in a research group exploring formats for telematic performances. tpf-client[1] is a graphical multi-instance jacktrip clone built in Pure Data. It establishes low-latency multi-channel audio connections between two or more end

Re: [PD] Glitch

2018-07-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2018-07-04 at 10:53 +0200, michael strohmann wrote: > > Hello! > from time to time my patch produces this beautiful, but unwanted > glitch. (audiofile attached) Sounds like I'm doing doing music. I wouldn't know how to identify the glitch aspect of it. How does it sound without the glitch

Re: [PD] comments in [text]

2018-07-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 10:34 +0200, Martin Hiendl wrote: > I was wondering whether there is a comment function for the [text] > object that I'm not aware of, or if not, whether that would be a > useful feature (for handling and navigating large cue-lists for > example). How about this: Mark your

Re: [PD] iemlib fails to load SOME objects OSX 10.10

2018-07-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 11:37 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > (since 1.21, the objects are now > included in a single binary "iemlib.pd_darwin", so you need to load > that > instead of the traditional iemlib1 resp. iemlib2) That sounds like some progress. I only see a package for Windows in Deke

Re: [PD] standard paths for externals

2018-07-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 16:32 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2018-06-14 15:35 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > Is this the idea? > > Yes! And it's working like that in my tests. Ok, it's working for me, too. I see significant progress in that (after having cleared

Re: [PD] standard paths for externals

2018-07-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 14:27 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2018-07-13 11:12 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > So, does that mean the [declare]-flags -stdlib and -stdpath are > > obsolete now? Oops, bad wording on my part. I should have said 'in the declare-pa

[PD] [else/dir] leaks file handles (was: "too many open files" error in 0.48.1)

2018-07-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all Not only by creating 1020 instances of [else/dir] you can crash Pd, but also by sending it a 337 'reset, open .' messages. I guess the reason is the same: [else/dir] is leaking file handles. It appears I tried [else/dir] for the similar reasons as you, Liam. I am also using [ggee/getdir

Re: [PD] [else/dir] leaks file handles (was: "too many open files" error in 0.48.1)

2018-07-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Alex On Tue, 2018-07-24 at 12:44 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Sorry, I thought I had fixed this in the last update. I swear it was > working for me, but then... that reported bug came back :) No need to be sorry. I'm not complaining, but simply reporting. > The object still work

Re: [PD] [else/dir] leaks file handles (was: "too many open files" error in 0.48.1)

2018-07-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-07-24 at 12:44 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Sorry, I thought I had fixed this in the last update. I swear it was > working for me, but then... that reported bug came back :) The object > still works fine for me in my use cases. Anyway, I'll give it another > go in the next u

[PD] table reverse lookup

2018-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi I'm using a couple of same-size tables to store tuples of numbers so that their index is there ID. When (tab)reading all tables at the given index, I get back the hole tuple. Mostly I have an ID and I need to look up some value which is obviously an inexpensive task. But sometimes I know two v

[PD] feature request: [array search]

2018-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi again While we are at it: Wouldn't an [array search] be an immensely useful object? Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.p

Re: [PD] feature request: [array search]

2018-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-09-04 at 17:29 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:22 PM Roman Haefeli > wrote: > > Hi again > > > > While we are at it: Wouldn't an [array search] be an immensely > > useful > > object? > > > > There

Re: [PD] table reverse lookup

2018-09-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
I'm still curious, though, if it's possible to implement a lookup and reverse lookup in a way that does not require a scan. Roman > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 5:19 PM Roman Haefeli > wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm using a couple of same-size tables to store tup

Re: [PD] type size of a commentary

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 16:37 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > There are 3 options that I can think of: > > 1. Use regular comments and change the font size in the Edit menu > (but this will change the text size of all objects as well). 1a. Use regular comment inside a GOP'd abstraction where you

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2018-09-22 at 23:11 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > OTOH, I kind of agree with the others that I never thought it was a > problem that you can open the same patch several times... Me neither. I do think it should be allowed one way or the other. Having to use a flag for it (probably the le

[PD] Unnecessary scrollbars since 0.49

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi It seems there is a slight regression in the logic that decides whether to show the scrollbars or not. According to my experience, the behaviour in 0.48 was quite good and now sometimes when opening a canvas, scrollbars are drawn when none are needed, even for empty windows. When editing the pa

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2018-09-22 at 23:29 +0200, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > Of course [once] would be much better than [lock] [once] is taken by iemlib. Not that I think every library in existence should be considered regarding name conflicts when introducing new objects to Pd, but I feel that [once] is in w

[PD] moving windows in 0.49

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Another regression I just observed: When sending 'vis 0, vis 1' to a canvas repeatedly, the window keeps moving to the top left of the screen. The offset is only a few pixels in each dimension. . I observe this with 0.49test3 (updated and compiled just now) on Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome). This happens

Re: [PD] Unnecessary scrollbars since 0.49

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2018-09-23 at 00:06 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > *sigh* This is really a constant battle. I added a rather > overcomplicated method to fix this in 0.48 and found a much simpler > way to do it later on, or so I thought. The problem always comes down > to the scrollbar logic being triggered whe

[PD] Some patches broken in 0.49test3

2018-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Sorry, need to report something probably more serious. Some of my patches trigger messages like the following: (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name ".x558795b0c400.c" while executing ".x558795b0c400.c itemconfigure 558795b682c0LABEL -font {{DejaVu Sans Mono} -11 bold}" ("

Re: [PD] Some patches broken in 0.49test3

2018-09-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Claude It seems you already did the hard work. Sorry for not having checked more carefully. I'm glad attention is already paid to the issue. Roman On Sat, 2018-09-22 at 23:29 +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > Hi Roman, > > On 22/09/18 23:19, Roman Haefeli wrote: > &g

Re: [PD] Unnecessary scrollbars since 0.49

2018-09-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
(forgot to send to the list) On Sun, 2018-09-23 at 03:12 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Try this as a small test: add a new line with "return" after the > "update idle tasks" on line 302 of tcl/pd_bindings.tcl. I can't see a difference at first glance. Without having done an actual measurement, it fe

Re: [PD] Some patches broken in 0.49test3

2018-09-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi 0.49test4 fixed the regression for me. I don't see any 'INVALID COMMAND NAME' errors anymore. Claude told me in #dataflow, though, that he's still able to trigger such errors. Thanks, Roman On Sun, 2018-09-23 at 09:40 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey Claude > >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

2018-09-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > At long last... > > Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data Cool. A big 'thank you!' to everyone involved. All the work that went into this

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

2018-09-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 13:34 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 20:56 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > > At long last... > > > > Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm > > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pur

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

2018-09-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 08:06 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > I think that's only true in the 32-bit version Ah, you're right. > which uses the old compilation scheme in which it's possible to edit > the > source code and recompile in place. The ".o" files are there so that > only > the code you c

Re: [PD] metro 1000 is 3 times faster than a second

2018-09-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey On Sun, 2018-09-30 at 20:55 +0200, Csaba Láng wrote: > how is it possible that measuring a metro 1000 with realtime object i > get 333.3 as a result? I get same when running pd with -r 14700 while my soundcard is configured to run at 44100Hz. Interestingly, this mismatch only has an effect wh

Re: [PD] metro 1000 is 3 times faster than a second

2018-10-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-10-01 at 12:15 +0200, Csaba Láng wrote: > Thanks for the hints, probably the best idea is to turn off dsp every > time it is not needed. However playing a video and audio with metro > control (sending the bangs according to the frame rate) and using > cameras in the same time makes pd

Re: [PD] talk to php-website with netsend

2018-10-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 10:29 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > or you could just use [mrpeach/httpreq] :-) Or [purest_json/rest] Roman > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Oktober 2018 um 10:02 Uhr > > Von: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" > > An: pd-list@lists.iem.at > > Betreff: Re: [PD] talk to php-website with ne

Re: [PD] trouble enabling Jack on Ubuntu compile

2018-10-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 08:58 +0200, Max wrote: > On 04.10.2018 23:58, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > > maybe there is a way that the configure gives a better hint at > > what's missing? > > > > > > there is (at least) one: > > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/507 > > ;-) > > Awesom

Re: [PD] send~ and receive~ with blocksize different than Pd's?

2018-11-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 14:46 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to use a [block~ 1024 1 16] object in a subpatch to > oversample 16 times. If this subpatch uses send~ and receive~ > objects, > or throw~ and catch~ Pd reports the error that: > receive~ foo: vector size mismatch >

Re: [PD] monitoring function REC-Play for looper

2018-11-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 13:23 +0100, Clemens wrote: > But what do you mean with "fan-outs"? A fan-out in Pd usually means that a single outlet is connected to two or more inlets. IOhannes strongly advises you to get rid of them, because the order the many inlets receive the message from the outlet i

Re: [PD] German translation of Pd

2018-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 12:09 +0100, Max wrote: > On 09.11.18 01:16, Simon Iten wrote: > > > > > On 8 Nov 2018, at 15:58, IOhannes m zmoelnig > > > wrote: > > > > > > none of them ring with me. > > > both "knopf" and "schalter" evoke quite specific images in my > > > head,

Re: [PD] No current Gem for OS X?

2018-11-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 12:10 +0100, Jean-Marie Adrien wrote: > does it mean that GEM will not work on mac OsX mojave ?? > gasp ! > :( If that is the first time you gasp while using a Mac, then call yourself lucky! Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part __

Re: [PD] time/date objects in zexy

2018-11-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 11:08 -0600, Rick Snow wrote: > The time and date objects in the current zexy are not loading on > macOS High Sierra. When I pull the .pd_darwin files from an old pd- > extended resources/extra/zexy folder they do load. Make sure to load the library. Only adding the path is

Re: [PD] time/date objects in zexy

2018-11-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 13:30 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > Em seg, 19 de nov de 2018 às 12:43, IOhannes m zmoelnig < > zmoel...@iem.at> escreveu: > > better yet: use [declare -path zexy -lib zexy] > > doesn't just [declare -lib zexy] work? No, some objects like [rad2deg] are provi

Re: [PD] case-sensitivity for filenames of abstractions on different OSes?

2018-11-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2018-11-20 at 15:26 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible that an abstraction loads as [myabs] when only a > myAbs.pd file is present under OS X? Yes, I believe so. > I thought that filenames on Unix Systems are case sensitive and that > they are not so on Windows. Depends o

Re: [PD] vanilla OSC message format

2018-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2018-11-23 at 22:37 +0100, Max wrote: > > [symbol vector( > | > [oscformat -f s subscribe @ blender Root] Try this: [bang( | [oscformat subscribe @ blender Root vector] It should give you the byte-identical result as [packOSC] output. > [netreceive {port} 1] That's ok if you expec

Re: [PD] Network crashes pd

2018-12-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 15:00 +0100, Orm Finnendahl wrote: > > I experience sudden pd crashes How does Pd crash? Is it segfaulting? Does it freeze and you have to restart? Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ P

Re: [PD] Deken - question / feature request

2018-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi On Sun, 2018-12-09 at 14:17 +0100, João Pais wrote: > I need to distribute a patch, which has to be programmed in Pd > Vanilla but > with some external libraries. Since the patch will be downloaded by > unexperienced persons, > it would be good that the externals would be > automatically

[PD] name of latency measurement algorithm

2018-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I once read about a simple and robust way to perform latency measurements with an audio signal. Explained in a few words, the test signal consists of a sweeping sine tone. The return signal ring-modulates the source signal and the resulting signal consists of two frequencies, the sum ( f

Re: [PD] name of latency measurement algorithm

2018-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-12-13 at 13:21 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > * Roman Haefeli [2018-12-13 11:58]: > > Hey all > > > > I once read about a simple and robust way to perform latency > > measurements with an audio signal. > > > > Explained in a few words, the test

Re: [PD] name of latency measurement algorithm

2018-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2018-12-13 at 15:09 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > * Roman Haefeli [2018-12-13 13:52]: > > On Thu, 2018-12-13 at 13:21 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > > > * Roman Haefeli [2018-12-13 11:58]: > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > I once

Re: [PD] ugly font edges on non-black background

2019-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
I can't reproduce with the help of [text3d]. Have you tried using a TrueType font? Gruss Roman On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 16:32 +0100, Csaba Láng wrote: > Dear list, > > I would like to use [text3d] texts on yellow background but the edge > of the texts are so ugly that I am concerning to use prere

Re: [PD] vanilla partitioned convolution abstraction

2019-01-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi It performs even better than William Brent's [convolve~] external, even with small delays. When both set to 256, I get 9% load vs. 26%. However, I get artefacts with a setting of 64 samples. When loading the various IRs, the result sometimes sounds glitchy. Setting of 128 or higher are always

Re: [PD] vanilla partitioned convolution abstraction

2019-01-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 11:27 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > yeah, I also get lots of glitches and artifacts with a 64 minimum > window. I have to increase the delay up to 50ms so I get rid of them, > which is kinda bad, even though it seems incredibly efficient. Just to clear: I'm not exp

Re: [PD] vanilla partitioned convolution abstraction

2019-01-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 13:44 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > hmm, weird, I don't seem to find problems... Aha? Even with attached test3.pd patch saved along the original test.pd patch? You can compare 64 to 128 and I get a glitchy tone with a frequency of 690 Hz (which seems to come from 44

Re: [PD] speed

2019-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 13:20 +0100, michael strohmann wrote: > ok, then there might be the problem. > i was thinking that [line] runs thru ALL the numbers in different > speeds. No. > which, come to think of it, might be a problem if i ask it to run > from 0 to 10 in 10 ms. That's not the pro

Re: [PD] speed

2019-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2019-01-12 at 20:44 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >On Friday, January 11, 2019, 8:12:46 AM EST, Roman Haefeli < > reduz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> so, what is the actually algotithm the [line] object is using? > > > Check the help of line. I can

Re: [PD] vanilla partitioned convolution abstraction

2019-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2019-01-12 at 22:56 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Em sex, 11 de jan de 2019 às 19:25, Alexandre Torres Porres < > por...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > So it seems this delay scheme needs to be revised, and maybe that's > > why the minimum window size of 64 gives us some weird artifacts

Re: [PD] open [openpanel] window in the patch folder

2019-01-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 13:35 +, Mario Buoninfante wrote: > Would it be possible to use something like the following > > [symbol ./( > | > | > [openfolder] > > to open the dialog window in the current patch folder? > > This syntax works when you save or load files (ie with [textfile]), > but

Re: [PD] open [openpanel] window in the patch folder

2019-01-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 13:28 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > Em ter, 15 de jan de 2019 às 12:30, Roman Haefeli > escreveu: > > On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 13:35 +, Mario Buoninfante wrote: > > > > > Would it be possible to use something like t

Re: [PD] open [openpanel] window in the patch folder

2019-01-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 14:08 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > Em ter, 15 de jan de 2019 às 13:56, Roman Haefeli > escreveu: > > > > I can currently only test on Linux, but yes it works. However, when > > banging [openpanel] initially, it doesn

Re: [PD] [text] issue reading SysEx files

2019-01-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 10:03 +0100, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > > make an addition to soundfiler to read binary characters into an > > array. > > wouldn't "read -raw 0 1 1 n" work? It would be cool if -raw would allow 1 byte per sample. But even if it worked this way, the result would be scaled to

Re: [PD] [text] issue reading SysEx files

2019-01-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 13:34 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 21.01.19 12:48, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 10:03 +0100, Antoine Rousseau wrote: > > > > make an addition to soundfiler to read binary characters into > > > > an > > > &g

Re: [PD] hid

2019-01-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2019-01-24 at 11:00 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 24.01.19 10:46, Raphael Isdant wrote: > > I didn't tried it yet, but you can find a compiled version > > you could also just try to compile [hid] (and upload it to deken). > i don't think it's super hard. I tried with hid-0.7 fro

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