Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
The next step is to see if those externals are available on deken, if not then 
we can look in to building/updating them.

One of the main issues is that maintaining something like pd-extended is a 
*huge* amount of work. Splitting up the externals helps with that, but now 
relies a bit more on everyone else in helping to maintain them. 


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On May 15, 2016, at 2:53 PM, enrike  wrote:
> 
> mmm yes. it is becoming a problem for us. many thanks for the tips
> 
> ig., 2016.eko mairen 15a 22:45(e)an, Dan Wilcox igorleak idatzi zuen:
>> Yup :P
>> 
>> The “everything just works” aspect of Pd-extended is a double-edged sword..
>> 
>> Easiest solution, I’ve found, is to start Pd with the -noprefs flag and
>> then check the list of objects that can’t create. After than I do a
>> system search for those object help files aka “locate borax-help.pd” and
>> see which external Pd-extended extra folder they are found in. From
>> that, you can build your definitive external list.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com>
>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com>
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2016, at 2:31 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
>>> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> *From:*enrike mailto:alte...@gmail.com>>
>>> *Subject:**Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu
>>> 16.04 LTS*
>>> *Date:*May 15, 2016 at 2:30:35 PM MDT
>>> *To:*Gerhard Lang >> <mailto:lang.gerh...@gmail.com>>,pd-list@lists.iem.at
>>> <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yes I know it sounds weird but here I have to be in sync with some
>>> teachers and students at the uni running different OSs and the easiest
>>> way is to install pd-extended :( I have a set of abstractions that
>>> relay on  extensions included in the extended version. I would have to
>>> expend a few days to track down which extensions I use to find a
>>> solution ... because I just dont remember any longer which ones I used ...
>>> 
>>> oh well, I guess it is about time to do it
>> 
> 

___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-15 Thread enrike

mmm yes. it is becoming a problem for us. many thanks for the tips

ig., 2016.eko mairen 15a 22:45(e)an, Dan Wilcox igorleak idatzi zuen:

Yup :P

The “everything just works” aspect of Pd-extended is a double-edged sword..

Easiest solution, I’ve found, is to start Pd with the -noprefs flag and
then check the list of objects that can’t create. After than I do a
system search for those object help files aka “locate borax-help.pd” and
see which external Pd-extended extra folder they are found in. From
that, you can build your definitive external list.


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com>


On May 15, 2016, at 2:31 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
<mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:

*From:*enrike mailto:alte...@gmail.com>>
*Subject:**Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu
16.04 LTS*
*Date:*May 15, 2016 at 2:30:35 PM MDT
*To:*Gerhard Lang mailto:lang.gerh...@gmail.com>>,pd-list@lists.iem.at
<mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>


yes I know it sounds weird but here I have to be in sync with some
teachers and students at the uni running different OSs and the easiest
way is to install pd-extended :( I have a set of abstractions that
relay on  extensions included in the extended version. I would have to
expend a few days to track down which extensions I use to find a
solution ... because I just dont remember any longer which ones I used ...

oh well, I guess it is about time to do it





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
Yup :P

The “everything just works” aspect of Pd-extended is a double-edged sword..

Easiest solution, I’ve found, is to start Pd with the -noprefs flag and then 
check the list of objects that can’t create. After than I do a system search 
for those object help files aka “locate borax-help.pd” and see which external 
Pd-extended extra folder they are found in. From that, you can build your 
definitive external list.


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On May 15, 2016, at 2:31 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: enrike mailto:alte...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
> Date: May 15, 2016 at 2:30:35 PM MDT
> To: Gerhard Lang mailto:lang.gerh...@gmail.com>>, 
> pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> 
> 
> yes I know it sounds weird but here I have to be in sync with some teachers 
> and students at the uni running different OSs and the easiest way is to 
> install pd-extended :( I have a set of abstractions that relay on  extensions 
> included in the extended version. I would have to expend a few days to track 
> down which extensions I use to find a solution ... because I just dont 
> remember any longer which ones I used ...
> 
> oh well, I guess it is about time to do it

___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-15 Thread enrike
yes I know it sounds weird but here I have to be in sync with some 
teachers and students at the uni running different OSs and the easiest 
way is to install pd-extended :( I have a set of abstractions that relay 
on  extensions included in the extended version. I would have to expend 
a few days to track down which extensions I use to find a solution ... 
because I just dont remember any longer which ones I used ...


oh well, I guess it is about time to do it

thanks!

ig., 2016.eko mairen 15a 00:04(e)an, Gerhard Lang igorleak idatzi zuen:

Hi enrike,
I don't see any reason to run an obsolete pd v 0.43.4-1 under Ubuntu
16.04 because there are fine pd v 0.46.7 extensions in the repos. I
think, with a little path configuration and perhaps adding some missing
libs  you will get most of your old patches running.
 From 15.10 to 16.04 the libgsl-stuff has been upgraded and is no longer
downward compatible.
But if you absolutely urge a running pd v 0.43 you will have to
recompile: manually edit the  build depency from  "libgsl0-dev" to
"libgsl-dev" and in the debian control files  "libgsl0ldbl" to "libgsl2".
Without warranty, other important libs might have been upgraded too.
I myself prefer Ivica Ico Bukvic's pd-l2ork  for it's clarity (I think
its based on 0.43) and I had to proceed in the manner described above to
get a installable .deb for Ubuntustudio 16.04. The pd-l2ork-team
inofficially announced to upgrade soon.
best regards
Gerhard

Am 14.05.2016 um 16:11 schrieb enrike:

Hi

I am trying to install the pd-extended_0.43.4-1~raring_amd64.deb
package of pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 but I get this dependency error

It says it depends on libgsl0ldbl (>= 1.9), and that it is not
installed. I did $ aptitude search libgsl0

this returns me

v   libgsl0-dbg
v   libgsl0-dbg:i386
v   libgsl0-dev
v   libgsl0-dev:i386

then I try to sudo aptitude install libgsl0-dev but it just does not
install anything at all. I searched with synaptic but that package is
not listed there.

I am kind of lost here. any ideas?

enrike

___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-14 Thread Gerhard Lang

Hi enrike,
I don't see any reason to run an obsolete pd v 0.43.4-1 under Ubuntu 
16.04 because there are fine pd v 0.46.7 extensions in the repos. I 
think, with a little path configuration and perhaps adding some missing 
libs  you will get most of your old patches running.
From 15.10 to 16.04 the libgsl-stuff has been upgraded and is no longer 
downward compatible.
But if you absolutely urge a running pd v 0.43 you will have to 
recompile: manually edit the  build depency from  "libgsl0-dev" to 
"libgsl-dev" and in the debian control files  "libgsl0ldbl" to "libgsl2".

Without warranty, other important libs might have been upgraded too.
I myself prefer Ivica Ico Bukvic's pd-l2ork  for it's clarity (I think 
its based on 0.43) and I had to proceed in the manner described above to 
get a installable .deb for Ubuntustudio 16.04. The pd-l2ork-team 
inofficially announced to upgrade soon.

best regards
Gerhard

Am 14.05.2016 um 16:11 schrieb enrike:

Hi

I am trying to install the pd-extended_0.43.4-1~raring_amd64.deb 
package of pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 but I get this dependency error


It says it depends on libgsl0ldbl (>= 1.9), and that it is not 
installed. I did $ aptitude search libgsl0


this returns me

v   libgsl0-dbg
v   libgsl0-dbg:i386
v   libgsl0-dev
v   libgsl0-dev:i386

then I try to sudo aptitude install libgsl0-dev but it just does not 
install anything at all. I searched with synaptic but that package is 
not listed there.


I am kind of lost here. any ideas?

enrike

___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list



___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


Re: [PD] dependency issue installing pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-05-14 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 05/14/2016 04:11 PM, enrike wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am trying to install the pd-extended_0.43.4-1~raring_amd64.deb package
> of pd-extended in Ubuntu 16.04 but I get this dependency error

are you running raring?

> 
> It says it depends on libgsl0ldbl (>= 1.9), and that it is not
> installed. I did $ aptitude search libgsl0
> 
> this returns me
> 
> v   libgsl0-dbg
> v   libgsl0-dbg:i386
> v   libgsl0-dev
> v   libgsl0-dev:i386
> 
> then I try to sudo aptitude install libgsl0-dev but it just does not
> install anything at all. I searched with synaptic but that package is
> not listed there.
> 
> I am kind of lost here. any ideas?

Pd-extended is dead.

use the puredata package that come with ubuntu (and install the
libraries you need) - almost everything that used to be part of
pd-extended is available as normal Debian package these days.

fgmards
IOhannes




signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list