Good point!
I can say the same about MZ-S (except that it is not 11 years old yet). The MZ-S and
3.5-4.5/24-90 cost about 1500 USD and it has all the features I need and I am going to
keep it for at least 10 years. Cost of one exposure will be negligible.
But it would sell better if it were
A week ago I read that collisions between gold atoms had finally yielded
verifiable 'quark soup'. By the way you could put the working parts of an
atomic force microscope into your pocket. The rest of the stuff occupies
half a decent sized room.
Don
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In a message dated 6/18/2003 10:43:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
frank theriault wrote:
Well, definitions evolve, especially with changes of technology.
They don't have to. It's about usurping through confusion in name. I see
no problem with calling an inkjet
Hi Jose,
on 19 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
I'm new in the forum, and it seems that the new Pentax *ist (35mm) is not a
favourite among forum members.
Can anybody explain me in a few words why?
In addition to Len's and Grawolf's replies: The *ist has mount, that
doesn't support older
You're not kidding. £579 is widespread,
and I've seen a £549 somewhere.
Wow.
That's about half the list price. Let me see ...
£549 / 1.175 =£467.23
Written down over 4 years, less 22% tax = £364.44.
Now *that* is *great* value for money!
Cotty, can you remember where you saw
How about the auto extension tubes? The non-auto ones will work, of course -
but auto ext. tubes behaves like KM lenses, afaik.
If they won't work, I guess it's time for a new - A, maybe even FA -
version.
Alex
My original question was if any one on this list is entering, not what
format they entering
The rules of this contest states:
Enteries accepted as B/W photo prints from 13 X 18 to 20 X 25cm of an
image photographed by analogue means (series and transparencies cannot
be accepted)
It
Anything, not only cameras would sell better if it was cheaper. Anything
would sell really well if its advertised. Marketing is not about informing
people that you have a new product that has all the features you need, its
about telling them that if they don't have the features your product has
Hmmm Can any digital print be called a Photograph? Perhaps a Digital
Image would be more appropriate!
Oxford Pocket says:
Photograph:
Picture taken by means of a chemical action of light on sensitive film.
With this as a baseline, it would be ultimately wrong to call an inkjet
print from a
Hi,
Thursday, June 19, 2003, 4:27:00 AM, you wrote:
And while we are at it what about this digital darkroom stuff. Why do
those guys have their computer in the darkroom? Or, if they don't, why
should we listen to liars anyway. grin not a big grin, because there is a
little tinsey winsey bit
I like that Cotty!!! You have widened the gap that was preniously only
nanometer apart (according to some)!
Well done, Cotty, well done!
Bob Rapp
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Agfa
But what about the images captured by silicon chips but are printed on photographic
paper?
I know a lab that provides such prints.
DagT
Fra: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like that Cotty!!! You have widened the gap that was preniously only
nanometer apart (according to some)!
Well
Since our need to select a mate using colour vision is no longer vital to
our survival, it may happen that colour vision in humans will disappear
completely; some time in the future. As it is 7% of the male population is
already red/green colour blind. See:
They're nothing but despicable pretenders.
? Why use so harsh words?
They print a file from their
digicam and they call that photography. It's file printing.
I didn't say pity I can't submit a print from my digital ps, I said pity
I can't submit an inkjet print (which, it occurs, I can). I
HOWEVER if we ignore this as spiltting hairs and stick with the Oxford
definition, and a digital image on an inkjet print therefore cannot be
called a 'photograph', then what of an inkjet print made from a scan of a
35mm negative - still inkjet but now called a photograph?
And that's what I
Or, if they don't, why
should we listen to liars anyway. grin not a big grin, because there is
a
little tinsey winsey bit of seriousness in what I said.
Why liars?
ukasz
And it's not. The process is photography, but the result is properly
called a slide and not a photograph. If you look at the Agfa contest
rules, you'll see they don't take slides either. And I didn't complain,
I'm not into the business of trying to pass slides as photographs.
For me it's
Hi,
Bob Walkden wrote:
there is no such thing as a photograph
Isn't that what Barthes says?
unless we count the platonic
shadows of reality dancing on the cave walls, and the language of the cave
has no concept of the general, only the specific.
Oh. Yes. 8-)
m
Had to fly up to Paris yesterday for a meeting, as I had the morning free I
decided to take in the Henri Cartier Bresson retrospective at the
Biblioteque Nationale.
Only one word to describe it:FABULOUS.
We have probably all seen many of these pictures in print, but seeing the
real thing is
If there had been enough people on the list, to create viable sub lists, it would have
split long ago over: MF/35mm, SM/KM, AF/MF. I mean, how many little pubs do you think
this rag tag group can sustain?
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does make me wonder, however, when 1/2 of this list is
This has already happened in Romania where mate selection is done with spec sheets.
BR
Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since our need to select a mate using colour vision is no longer vital to
our survival...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there had been enough people on the list, to create viable sub lists, it would
have split long ago over: MF/35mm, SM/KM, AF/MF. I mean, how many little pubs do you
think this rag tag group can sustain?
I dunno, but let's all repair to the local pub and find
Some people on the list always state, that the *ist/*istD is a entry level
camera because the Pentax marketing has said that. They also said the MZ-S
it a pro camera. So let us use our own heads and look at the Pentax line up
and also at other companies where the *ist fit in.
There are five
Oxford (or any other dictionary) defines a word based on it's common usage(s)
at the time the dictionary was published. Definitions change over time.
Whenever a new Oxford edition comes out, there are news stories of new words
that are added.
Any bets that in upcoming editions (and it may take a
Now if that's about cameras, there's no different than elsewhere -
spec sheets weight too much. As for the rest, I at least always
resorted to colour vision. But I'm known as a retro guy who often
ignores the evidence, so could you be more specific!?
Servus, Alin
Blivit4
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:09:12 -0400, Caveman wrote:
Per Merriam-Webster - Photography : the art or process
of producing images on a sensitized surface (as a film)
by the action of radiant energy and especially light.
It would appear that Webster believes a slide is a
photograph.
Butch Black
Build quatility (metal mount): 2 (2)
Mount compatiblity to manual lenses 1 (Nikon 4, others none)
Viewfinder 2 (2)
Shutter time, sync speed 3 (2-3)
FPS 3-4 (2-3)
Auto picture mode 2 (picture mode 2)
AF system (cross sensor, on screen display) 4 (2-3)
AF modes (Single, continous)
Raimo Korhonen wrote:
Not likely. It is an unique camera with useful specs.
Nikon F 100 is not better, it is different.
So you don't find the following F100 features useful?
- Extremely fast and accurate AF with all AF Nikkors
- Even faster AF with AF-S Nikkors (similar to Canon USM)
- 3D
frank theriault wrote:
Oxford (or any other dictionary) defines a word based on it's common usage(s)
at the time the dictionary was published. Definitions change over time.
Whenever a new Oxford edition comes out, there are news stories of new words
that are added.
Yes, and time for my
AND, that definition would include digital photography as well. The
words sensitized surface (as a film) clearly mean sensitized surface
including but not limited to film. I think a digital sensor would fall
into that category.
-frank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Per Merriam-Webster -
On June 19, 2003 07:39 am, frank theriault wrote:
AND, that definition would include digital photography as well. The
words sensitized surface (as a film) clearly mean sensitized surface
including but not limited to film. I think a digital sensor would fall
into that category.
One
On June 19, 2003 05:24 am, Bob Walkden wrote:
Besides, 'darkrooms' are only dark for the brief moment while you load
the film in the tank. Otherwise they are lit normally or by a
safelight and the light of the enlarger.
Only if you're using a daylight tank for film and doing BW
Alex.
The Kenko tubes have the AF 'screwdriver' connection. Plus all the electrical
connections.
And they are available in PAF.
Kind regards
Peter
If you are consistent with that logic then a slide or transparency is not a
photograph unless printed on silver halide photographic paper.
And it's not. The process is photography, but the result is properly
called a slide and not a photograph. If you look at the Agfa contest
rules, you'll
Bob W wrote:
On cave 'logic', if a slide is a slide and therefore not a photograph,
and an inkjet print is an inkjet print and therefore not a
photograph, presumably a silver halide print is a silver halide print,
and therefore not a photograph, a daguerrotype is a daguerrotype and
therefore not
Oxford (or any other dictionary) defines a word based on it's common
usage(s)
at the time the dictionary was published. Definitions change over time.
Whenever a new Oxford edition comes out, there are news stories of new
words
that are added.
Any bets that in upcoming editions (and it may take a
Yes, of course - I was talking about the Pentax tubes, as I really think
they should be compatible with *ist, at least with *istD. I guess Pentax
should upgrade them (at least as A variants), because some people will want
to use them with *ist cameras; and I'm more than reasonable asking that
It'll be a rare event for most *ists to be moved off an autoexposure mode in
favour of manual exposure. We here are representatives of a rare breed of
photographer who like to take control back from the camera. That single
dial might get wound off its bearings in the hands of one of us, but I
Entry level doesn't necessarily mean cheapest. That presumes that a first
time 35mm slr buyer always 'enters' the category by acquiring the cheapest
camera. That may be true of students and other people of limited means, but
in reality many first time buyers are free to spend as much as they see
Hi Anthony,
on 19 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
It'll be a rare event for most *ists to be moved off an autoexposure mode in
favour of manual exposure. We here are representatives of a rare breed of
photographer who like to take control back from the camera. That single
dial might get wound
Hi,
Thursday, June 19, 2003, 2:16:52 PM, you wrote:
Bob W wrote:
On cave 'logic', if a slide is a slide and therefore not a photograph,
and an inkjet print is an inkjet print and therefore not a
photograph, presumably a silver halide print is a silver halide print,
and therefore not a
Andre,
Nice to hear about your interest in music photography. Maybe we can keep in touch some
way and share experiences.
Should we found a subdivision: Pentax Music Photographers? :)
I looked at your picture of David. It's good. (Personally I think I would have cropped
some maybe 10% from the
I woke up one morning to what felt like 400 messages. I think this group
could support 2x the number of lists that any sane person could handle
reading.
There's a sane person subscribing? Who!
Cheers,
Cotty
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:42:39 -0400
From: Matt Bevers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't forget the user interface - this is one clear
strike against the
*ist, having only one dial to control shutter,
aperture
I have read this a couple of time on this list, but it
is is wrong. The *ist has
Do the Kenko AF tubes correct the transmitted aperture value with
the extension tube's factor? - otherwise it messes with
multisegment metering and it's pretty much useless.
Anyway, for this very reason, the A variety of tubes doesn't make
any sense and we probably won't see it
A slide is only a mechanism for viewing.
It is more pricisely termed a reversal.
On the film plane it's flipped horizontally and vertically,
completely reverse of what your eye sees.
It is a optical-chemical production.
Imaging is probably a better broad term to use than
I finally decided to order a PZ-1p from KEH to either replace or
complement the PZ-1 I've been using for a while.
I know most of the differences and I'll download the manual, but I
also wanted to seek out some other sources of information to start
learning the differences between the cameras.
Hi alexanderkrohe,
on 19 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
*ist, having only one dial to control shutter,
aperture
I have read this a couple of time on this list, but it
is is wrong. The *ist has separate dials for shutter
and aperture (unlike the MZ/ZX7)
No, the *ist has only one dial. The
Nope, it's only one dial. *istD has 2, instead.
But this is not an issue if you don't use manual mode :) Except that I
really don't like the *ist wheel (and I'm talking about construction; *istD
should be much better).
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From: alexanderkrohe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
On 19 Jun 2003 at 17:27, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
Nope, it's only one dial. *istD has 2, instead.
But this is not an issue if you don't use manual mode :) Except that I
really don't like the *ist wheel (and I'm talking about construction; *istD
should be much better).
So when all the
whickersworld wrote:
Obviously the shrink advised you to vent your frustration upon pdml
as the cheap alternative to having to get the F100 and afferent
lenses.
;o)
Now seriously, of your long list you can retain the points related
to speed (AF, shutter, etc.) However, these are not
Hi,
Cotty wrote:
There's a sane person subscribing? Who!
Who's on first base. Etc., Etc., Etc.
the fat, stupid one
Exactly - that's why I said the user interface supports it's entry
level status. The single dial doesn't work for people who don't use
autoexposure.
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 09:36 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:
It'll be a rare event for most *ists to be moved off an autoexposure
mode in
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 11:27 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
But this is not an issue if you don't use manual mode :)
Or if you don't use exposure compensation in Av or Tv
On 19 Jun 2003 at 17:43, Alin Flaider wrote:
whickersworld wrote:
Obviously the shrink advised you to vent your frustration upon pdml
as the cheap alternative to having to get the F100 and afferent
lenses.
;o)
Now seriously, of your long list you can retain the points related
On June 19, 2003 10:51 am, Matt Bevers wrote:
Exactly - that's why I said the user interface supports it's entry
level status. The single dial doesn't work for people who don't use
autoexposure.
How does that make sense? Nothing is stopping you from using the aperture
ring other
On June 19, 2003 09:29 am, Anthony Farr wrote:
Pentax don't plan to sell most *ists to present Pentax owners, but to
people who've never before owned a 35mm SLR. That's what makes it 'entry
level'. If you or I or anyone else on this list bought an *ist, that would
not be an 'entry'
i use my digital camera all the time with only one dial for controlling both aperture
and shutter speed. i either shoot fully programmed mode or aperture priority mode.
with the dial, i can vary the combination in favor of higher shutter speed or higher
aperture while maintaining constant
After that I am officially discontinuing my participation in this (and
if I'm lucky enough to remember) and all future *ist market position
threads.
Excuse me while I go rip the meter out of my MX and paint it black so I
can finally start taking some professional photos (or do we call them
On 19 Jun 2003 at 10:55, Nick Zentena wrote:
How does that make sense? Nothing is stopping you from using the aperture ring
other then losing in camera metering.
Talk about feature laden.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Rob wrote:
RS The Leica/Voigt lenses which were mentioned earlier by John fit neither an F100
RS or MZ-S and obviously aren't AF or Auto anything, makes me wonder :-)
Nah, we are all creatures of multiple personalities, we must
satisfy each one's cravings. ;o)
Servus, Alin
On June 19, 2003 11:03 am, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 19 Jun 2003 at 10:55, Nick Zentena wrote:
How does that make sense? Nothing is stopping you from using the
aperture ring other then losing in camera metering.
Talk about feature laden.
Haven't you heard. Feature rich
I'm not sure which market you mean isn't very big today. What I am sure of
is that there are more potential 35mm SLR buyers in the world today who have
not used Pentax, than who have, and more are being born all the time. I
also feel certain that there are more camera buyers who have not owned
Go to www.popphoto.com and look under their camera test archive. I think
the PZ-1p was tested.
DG
At 10:30 AM 6/19/03 -0400, you wrote:
I finally decided to order a PZ-1p from KEH to either replace or
complement the PZ-1 I've been using for a while.
I know most of the differences and I'll
There is no depth of field, even at moderate magnification. The
difference between 'in-focus' and 'out-of-focus' at 1000X is less
than 1,5 um. For example when the binocular tube is in good focus
the camera tube is so far out of focus that almost no detail can
be seen and the difference in
But there are erythrocytes of course (red blood cells or RBCs),
polymorphonuclear leucocytes (or neutrophiles), lymphocytes,
eosinophiles, platelets, one giant platelet and several clusters
and one vacuolated neutrophile.
What, no ~basophils~? very big grin
Fred
A photograph is an image produced by reflected light off of some object
focused through a lens onto a light sensitive material.
As such a digital image produced in such a manner is indeed a photograph.
There have been many different media used to make photographs over the
years, digital is just
Hello Everybody,
Can anyone spare the extremely tiny Ball Bearing and
Spring that go by under the Camera Mode changer
assembly that wraps around the shutter release button
on the Super Program /Super A ?
I am willing to trade camera (super program)parts for
it or give cash.
Thanks,
Ryan
My Oxford American Dictionary says, a picture formed by means of the
chemical action of light or other radiation on a light-sensitive surface.
That is a verbatim quote.
It says nothing about film, nor about the need for chemical processing. And
the conversion of light to electrons is indeed a
VanTil rocks!
:)
Collin
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:52:01 +0100
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can do you a nice price on a 12-week correspondence course from the
Bart Sontag Academy of
A? Jokes are a little hard to explain. Especially so when you delete the
first part.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: £ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Agfa
Hi,
Thursday, June 19, 2003, 4:53:03 PM, you wrote:
A photograph is an image produced by reflected light off of some object
focused through a lens onto a light sensitive material.
the important aspect to stress is that it is the action of light that
directly causes the medium itself to
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Thanks,
Lasse
A? Jokes are a little hard to explain. Especially so when you delete
the
first part.
You think? ;-) Sorry - rough day today.
Regards,
ukasz
Hi,
Hmm. Must be one of those English vs. American language things. I'll
bet if you both look you'll find that the English one says 'tomato'
and the American one says 'tomato'. The English 'potato', the Yankee
'potato'.
--
Cheers,
Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will probably put an advert locally, but thought I might ask here too.
I am looking for cheap prime lenses, any focal lenghts, multicoated. (Well k-mount
zooms too, if price is right.)
My cheap AF zooms and old manual lenses are clogging up or breaking etc. I'd
desperately need som useable
Don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen, though.
Len
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From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: The future of colour film
Since our need to select a mate using colour
From Matt
Don't forget the user interface - this is one clear strike against the
*ist, having only one dial to control shutter, aperture and exposure
compensation. Now, I haven't used a single dial camera for the
requisite 6 months, but I have used my brother's Rebel 2000 a fair
amount, and the
Bob Walkden wrote:
Not so. You bandy the word photograph about just as much as the rest
of us, without specifying which type of photograph you mean.
When people want to use photograph for inkjet prints. Then you have
to invent a new term for photograph as to differentiate it from
inkjet print.
I haven't kept up to date on what has been
released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the
long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Thanks,
Lasse
I have a Sigma 100-300 AF lens in good
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, whickersworld wrote:
So you don't find the following F100 features useful?
- Extremely fast and accurate AF with all AF Nikkors
- Even faster AF with AF-S Nikkors (similar to Canon USM)
- 3D matrix metering with multiple segments
- Support for VR (vibration
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:01:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Thanks guys, but super quality has since long been, and will be for some
time to come way beyond my budget capacity, so to speak... Furthermore, for
the shooting I'm thinking of, I will definitely need
Sigma 70-300 DL
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Päivä: 19. kesäkuuta 2003 18:24
Aihe: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
When people want to use photograph for inkjet prints.
So for you a photograph is a wet print and nothing else? That's pretty
limiting. A photograph is (and always was) a general term 0 that's why you
have a wet print or inkjet print that further explain the technique used
to produce a particular
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
If someone would like to have top
specified body, with good choice of ultrasonic driven and with IS (VR)
stabilisation - then of course F100 is clear choice.
Canon EOS 1v. The F100 is for cheapskates that don't want to support the
company through buying new lenses.
Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote:
When people want to use photograph for inkjet prints.
So for you a photograph is a wet print and nothing else?
For me a photograph is what the dictionary says it is. That's the only
sane way to decide what a word means.
That's pretty
limiting. A photograph is (and
Quoting Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price
level but with good resolution at the long end?
Here's a suggestion, and some reasoning to go behind it gasp!.
Particularly since you metioned consumer price level, I'd have to suggest the
very
Hey Evan,
I tried to email the group, but I got permanent fatal errors from the email
account that I had for you in my address book (buddhaunderthetree... or
something like that). I guess it's outdated. Anyhow, get back to me when you
can. We're trying to solidify things for this weekend.
I made a mistake...
and these three all taken at the long end, (300mm or higher) wide open.
actually, only the first two were with this lens, the last one (which actually
doesn't look as sharp / well focused) was with a prime.
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Hi Lasse:
I have an SMC Pentax-FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 in mint condition that I
It certainly seems to be able to sustain you!!
Feroze
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Is an inkjet print a photograph? (was Re: Agfa Competition)
If there had been enough people on the list, to create
photodigigraphs?
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: digigraphers
But what about the images captured by silicon chips but are printed on
photographic paper?
I know a lab that provides such
Of course not! Simple photo-electric cells don't record images, do they?
I was replying to a post of Ken's, in which the definition of photography that he
proferred, was:
Photography : the art or process
of producing images on a sensitized surface (as a film)
by the action of radiant energy
Hi,
Thursday, June 19, 2003, 8:40:23 PM, you wrote:
Bob Walkden wrote:
Not so. You bandy the word photograph about just as much as the rest
of us, without specifying which type of photograph you mean.
When people want to use photograph for inkjet prints. Then you have
to invent a new
Bob Walkden wrote:
Bob Walkden wrote:
what do you do when different dictionaries give mutually-incompatible
definitions of the same word?
You take the one from the dictionary that's accepted as *the* reference.
But could you please give some examples.
In this very thread you have cited one that
Hi, Cotty,
Kripes, I don't know! I just read Bob's posts about Pre-Hegelian Post-Modernist
Deconstructionalist Marxist Thesis/Synthesis Dialectic Platonic Cave Shadow
Wave-Particle Dualism in Light Theory.
My head's swimming. Did I make a good point or something?
-knarf/frank
Cotty wrote:
Caveman. He's the only sane person here.
It's the rest of us who are nuts. vbg
-frank
Cotty wrote:
There's a sane person subscribing? Who!
Cheers,
Cotty
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm Can any digital print be called a Photograph? Perhaps a
Digital
Image would be more appropriate!
Oxford Pocket says:
Photograph:
Picture taken by means of a chemical action of light on sensitive film.
My Oxford American Dictionary says, a picture
But kangaroos and opossums are not mammals, but marsupials :-)
Bill
It's you who is mangling the language, by trying to co-opt the generic
term so that it can only be used for one specific type. Claiming that
slides are not photographs, for example, is simply ludicrous. It's
like saying you
marsupials are an order of mammals: marsupalia
christian
Hey! I got to use my biology degree!
On Thursday 19 June 2003 17:49, Bill Owens wrote:
But kangaroos and opossums are not mammals, but marsupials :-)
Bill
It's you who is mangling the language, by trying to co-opt the generic
term
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