Rob's SMH article got me thinking about buying from BH again (really
would like that 77mm Ltd for my sister's wedding). I checked with
Fletcher's and the price difference is astounding. And more disturbing,
the sales droid at Ted's was adamant there was no such thing as a 77mm
lens. Hrumpf.
I used the AF360FGZ on my LX in TTL mode
Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:14 AM
Subject: RE: LX and 360FGZ flash
All Pentax flashes designed for AF cameras won't
Hello list
I just got the answer from Danish Pentax importer: Don't use NiCd or NiMH,
they said, quoting the english manual (hmmm...).
BTW I got my MZ-S + BG-10 in the mail today!
U - is this a nice camera.
The viewfinder somewhat small, and the trigger very soft and rubber-like.
But still
You can use the AF360FGZ on the LX in TTL mode. A lot of the other features
are unavailable. The zoom will have to be done manually regardless of the
lens you choose.
Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Andy Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
all that tells me is that the number of people who really do want to learn
is falling. there is too much temptation to turn on the meter or AF and let
it do everything for you, even in a photo course.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
From: William M Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Otis,
I know this is getting a bit off topic, but I need to step up on
the soap box here:
Yes, the school system is churning out many students who can't do
what is described below, and I will be the first to admit that.
However, what you
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:29:49 +1300, you wrote:
The only question is whether there is, among that number,
a photographer who would bother to go through the effort
of learning how to do things the hard way, and who would
then be able to produce better photographs.
IIRC, the wildlife
ergo, smarter cameras make dumber photogs.
Herb Chong wrote:
all that tells me is that the number of people who really do want to learn
is falling. there is too much temptation to turn on the meter or AF and let
it do everything for you, even in a photo course.
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT
Imagine my surprise when the istD - and our very own Paul
Stenquist - got such nice comments on the Leica forum ;-))
Way to go, Paul. Nice leica, too.
shel
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:29:56 +1100, you wrote:
Frank and Butch,I would really appreciate it if you (and anybody else)could
have a look at this offering and comment please on my bird watching.
www.pbase.com/chennedi/gallery_eyecandy
It seems one can't go for a walk in the park these days without
Hi @all,
I'm using this lens on my *ist-D as the single standard walkaround-lens,
or just adding the FA85 for concert photos.
No complaints here!
Focusses to 33cm (approx 1 foot) at all focal lenghts,
incredibly sharp even wide open - recommended!
Weight is only 0,5 kg (~18 oz), filtersize is
Thanks Shel.
I always enjoy visiting Marc Williams. He has the biggest toy box in
town, and he loves cameras.
On Feb 16, 2004, at 7:39 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT
Imagine my surprise when the istD - and our very own Paul
Stenquist - got
...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The
set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in
this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher
sensitivity previously used.
Sven
Zitat von Shel Belinkoff
On 16 Feb 2004 at 13:51, keller.schaefer wrote:
...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The
set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in
this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher
sensitivity
Call them, then they probably can arrange it for you.
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 07:47, Derby Chang wrote:
Rob's SMH article got me thinking about buying from BH again (really
would like that 77mm Ltd for my sister's wedding). I checked with
Fletcher's and the price difference is astounding. And
Hi Paul,
nice story!
Would you mind if I quoted this on a german digitalphoto forum?
( http://forum.digitalfotonetz.de/viewforum.php?f=2 )
Thomas
This morning I got together with one of the more successful part-time
pros in my area. He shoots with the Canon 10 megapixel camera (is it
Thank you all,
Christian, that's more or less what I thought. I'm going to do some
tests with an incident light meter to see whether it works properly.
Cheers
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:55 PM
To: [EMAIL
An aisde: Stylistically, I think that use of font and color in an
article is ridiculous. It's a piece of prose, not a deodorant ad.
Steve the Teacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/04 08:14PM
http://www.cameraquest.com/photog.htm
A not so tongue-in-cheek commentary by Stephen Gandy
I think the folks that would have done well 30-50 years ago will still
do well with automatic cameras, whereas folks that used to get
instamatics can now buy a Rebel. Most of us learn when to turn off the
automation. I have found that I trust AE but have increasingly gone to
MF. When I do use
Please feel free to quote me wherever you wish.
paul
Th. Stach wrote:
Hi Paul,
nice story!
Would you mind if I quoted this on a german digitalphoto forum?
( http://forum.digitalfotonetz.de/viewforum.php?f=2 )
Thomas
This morning I got together with one of the more successful
Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Because within 5 years you won't be able to get film for
it?
I saw some rotten devil sending his girlfriend into the local camera shop to
get film for his Optio 550.
Girlfriend? Are you sure it wasn't his 18-year-old mistress?
;-)
Rhetorical or not I have to mention that when I was shopping for a camera
body, I walked into Ted's and another sales droid replied to do you stock
the mz 5n? with you should get a C*non- honestly. Pentax is crap. All the
pros use C*non. How's that for subtle.. I wouldn't have been surprised if
he
Yea Verily John ,It is truly the way to go.
Regards Chris K
Fritz,If you get it shipped via UPS you can arrang e to pick it up at Mascot
or arrange a time with them,or if you have it sent via US mail(hence
Australia Post)they will leave a card in your Post Box advising you of a
pick up time at your local Post Office.
Regards Chris K
no. people who don't want to learn won't.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?
ergo, smarter cameras make dumber photogs.
Herb Chong
Real pretty is a black 43mm Ltd on a black MX ;-))
Even prettier is a black 43mm Ltd mounted on a black Leica
;-)
Mark Roberts wrote:
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pretty is a 43mm Limited on an MX!
Oh, how I feel your pain ...
I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a
way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in
such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good
handle on this).
But I also have to laugh a bit at this complaint ... it
seems that many
Every digital camera I've seen requires the pushing of a
button to view some setting or change some function or
feature set. I suppose it depends on what's important to a
particular user which are a pain and which aren't.
Rob Studdert wrote:
It is a pain but it can be read on the rear LCD by
In part, just my point. There's no longer any need to learn
anything for some people. The newer cameras feed right into
that mindset. ergo, one needn't know anything about
photography, light, exposure, dof, etc., to make a
photograph these days. Of course, that's not true of anyone
on this
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?
I think the folks that would have done well 30-50 years ago will
still
do well with automatic cameras, whereas folks that used to get
instamatics can now buy a Rebel.
The reason those
- Original Message -
From: keller.schaefer
Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this
camera has. The
set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the
finder. As in
this case, it happened to me several
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
Oh, how I feel your pain ...
I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a
way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in
such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very pretty. It's probably just because I'm so used to seeing pancakes on
MXen, but somehow it just doesn't look right on the *istD. I could
probably get used to it if I tried, though g
Pretty is a 43mm Limited on an MX!
--
Mark Roberts
Photography
On 16 Feb 2004 at 6:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Oh, how I feel your pain ...
I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a
way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in
such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good
handle on this).
But I also have
Exactly the point: there's only so much information that can
fit easily on those little screens, and only so much
information a operator can easily and quickly absorb. So,
Pentax decided that this feature or that function would be
accessed or viewed in a different manner.
Going to another
I actually kind of like the fact that I have to turn the knob to see the
ISO on my *ist D. I forgot to do it Sunday with my friend from the Leica
forum because I wasn't shooting, I was showing him the camera. When I
shoot, the ISO is the first thing I consider. Turning the know to see
what I set
Do you actually use that thing ... iac, you have to remember
to change it manually.
We shoot differently, I suppose. I rarely change my iso
settings.
Rob Studdert wrote:
Well my Leicas either have a film type reminder dial on the door or an ISO
selector, my Pentax cameras have a window to
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
I recall a Canon user saying that
she was disappointed because she couldn't get reruns of
Gilligan's Island on her 10D.
I'm disappointed because I can't get pictures of Gillian Anderson on
my
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder
is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX).
Notice I said, the LX shutter was more noticeable, based
on my experience the LX is really no louder, it may even
be quieter in absolute
On 15/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Once again in C
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At 03:39 AM 2/14/04, you wrote:
On 13/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Heard a roomer at a local photo shop
I see the MZ-S is very quiet! Probably the best of the lot. I only say
probably because my short term memory doesn't allow me to keep all
those sounds in memory.
The MX is definitely quieter than the LX, by my ear, and that Nikon! Loud!
keith
Rob Studdert wrote:
On 15 Feb 2004 at 18:39, Shel
Just finished a roll of Kodak Portra 100T,which i thought was their
version of
the C41
based BW films.
Bill i think i need more coffee than you today.LOL
I have realized the mistake and did a quick look at the film on Kodaks website.It
Shel ...
I shot a roll of BW in the PZ-1 yesterday,not a cloud in the sky and my main subject
were
trees
against the blinding white snow.
I could not tell what the inside was doing,my glasses were blacked right out by the
brightness.I just set
the camera
This topic comes up from time to time on the list, and there always
seems to be polarization between people who say you can learn the
fundamentals on a wunderplastic camera and those who say that you
probably won't.
I fall into the latter category because that is what I see happening.
But
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: Did i make a boo boo
Just finished a roll of Kodak Portra 100T,which i thought
was their version of
the C41
based BW films.
Bill i think i need more
Hi!
When is the current's month's submission deadline? 20th? some time
later? earlier?
Please unconfuse me.
Thanks.
Boris
Hi!
When is the current's month's submission deadline? 20th? some time
later? earlier?
Please unconfuse me.
Thanks.
Boris
18th this month i believe
Dave
No 'ergo' about it.
Even if you accept Herb's claim that the number of people interested
in learning is falling (rather than just being swamped by the increase
in numbers of people without much motivation) there's still no proof
of a causal relationship - just a correlation.
Perhaps people got
I'd suggest that there are a lot of snapshooters on this
list. There are about 600 list members, but only a handful
that frequently participate in discussions/arguments. What
kind of photography do those other 500 or so people do?
As for singing pigs, well, I'd like to suggest Ricky Jay's
book,
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman
Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?
I still fail to see something here, don't I?
Well, yes, but not surprising.
Sure we join camera clubs, or internet chat groups such as this, but
all we are doing is re-enforcing what we
- Original Message -
Bill Said:
Get it processed, and either adjust the colour in photoshop (I recall
a plug in that allows for colour filter emulation, perhaps it is on
Mark Robert's website), or just desaturate it and fix the levels.
It
Just go ahead and process it, see what the results are like
... you can probably fix it in Photoshop in any case.
Lots of ways to correct the color cast problems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just finished a roll of Kodak Portra 100T,which i thought was their
version of
the
Now, take all several dozens folks here who bought *istD. Obviously,
the *istD is the *smartest* camera Pentax produced so far. Will it
make them dumber? I doubt so very much.
Sometimes I wonder if paying $1700 for a camera that can now be bought
for less than that (*with* a $400 lens
Ah now, the *real* question is whether or not the availability of
smarter cameras increases or decreases the number of people who want to
learn how to become good photographers. :-)
S
Herb Chong wrote:
no. people who don't want to learn won't.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Shel
Cotty wrote:
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder
is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX).
Notice I said, the LX shutter was more noticeable, based
on my experience the LX is really no louder, it may even
Hi Shel,
Given your preference for manual cameras (which I share btw), I'm sure you
would love the *ist D. Because with a K or M lens, it's exactly that: a
manual camera with a center weighted meter. You turn your aperture wheel
the old fashioned way, by hand. You push a button to stop down and
But John, that doesn't make you dumb. It shows clearly that
you're a leader and an innovator ...
To which lens are you referring?
John Francis wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if paying $1700 for a camera that can now be bought
for less than that (*with* a $400 lens included) is proof of dumbness.
Your results are going to be very blue. That might be nice in the snow. But probably
not. You can
try scanning the negs and converting them to grayscale in PhotoShop. You might end up
with decent
results that way.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just finished a roll of Kodak Portra
Hi, Dave. The Portra 100T balances beautifully for tungsten lights, but
it's not bad for outdoor shots. The lab will likely try to colour
correct it as much as they can, and in my experience you can come very
close. If you envisioned the shots as BW, it may be interesting to have
one set
Hmmm very interesting
As you may gather from all the questions I've asked about
the camera, it does interest me. The idea of a manual DSLR
sounds great. Having used a digicam for a year or so, I've
come to enjoy the instant gratification of being able to sit
down and immediately work
The only thing about moving to the istd is that I'd probably
want/need to upgrade Photoshop to CS ... and that might mean
investing more $$ into additional computer resources. I'm
not a JPEG shooter when I want the highest quality, so it
would be RAW or TIFF for me, I suppose. The istd does use
Or maybe.. dumber cameras make for fewer (brighter)
photogs. :-P
I like to the auto features. I run auto when it gets or should get me
the results I want. I run manual when auto isn't going to cut it.
Some days I run auto most of the day, some days the camera just stays
Boris ...
Of course, to a point, everyone is right in this discussion.
I was actually being a little facetious when I made the
comment about everyone here being ... dedicated to getting
the best results from their cameras. While that may be
true for many people who actively participate in these
I am slowly making my way through this months PUG. Comments in no
particular order:
Good Morning! by Amita Guha,
This is very vibrant and would no doubt be gleaming in the sun were the
theme not wet. It seems just the slightest bit tilted to me. I had no
idea what the name of the truck
Hi, Dave. The Portra 100T balances beautifully for tungsten lights, but
it's not bad for outdoor shots. The lab will likely try to colour
correct it as much as they can, and in my experience you can come very
close. If you envisioned the shots as
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The only thing about moving to the istd is that I'd probably
want/need to upgrade Photoshop to CS ... and that might mean
investing more $$ into additional computer resources. I'm
not a JPEG shooter when I want the highest quality, so it
would be RAW
I hear you ... thks!
alex wetmore wrote:
Yes.
TIFF files have already gone through processing on the camera though
(bayer processing and reduced to 8bits). They are also larger (17m vs
13m). You really want to use RAW if you don't want to use JPEG.
You don't need to use Photoshop CS
Hi,
you can't blame the camera for this. A smart photographer (no insult intended for
your father)
would have learnt the limitations of their gear.
yes, I agree. I wasn't moaning about automation, I was giving a counterexample to this
claim:
And, to repeat, by the time one bought a ttl
Deadlines are the 20th each month.
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: PUG deadline - when?
Hi!
When is the current's month's submission deadline? 20th? some time
later?
The DA 16-45. With the current pricing incentives a *ist-D + 16-45
outfit can be purchased for somewhere around $1500, I believe.
But John, that doesn't make you dumb. It shows clearly that
you're a leader and an innovator ...
To which lens are you referring?
John Francis wrote:
Hello Alex,
What might be considered the next best implementation of raw
convertor? I don't want to spend the money on Photoshop CS just yet.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Monday, February 16, 2004, 10:51:50 AM, you wrote:
aw On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The only thing about moving
I sometimes have need to take photos of my client's pets,
and the digicam is super for that. The only problem is that
the shutter lag sometimes makes it difficult to grab certain
shots, especially when things are moving fast. The istD may
be a solution. Here's one of my puppy pics should anyone
For those who want to eliminate most in-camera processing,
I now have a small utility that will extract the image bits
from a RAW file and perform only the simplest Bayer interpolation.
(No sharpening - you have to do all that yourself).
I hear you ... thks!
alex wetmore wrote:
Yes.
It's worth a try. I've never printed colour negs as BW myself, but I've
had several customers who did it and were happy with the results.
chris
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Dave. The Portra 100T balances beautifully for tungsten
Hi,
Toast exposure compensation?
my toaster has a button marked 'bagels'. A light comes on when you
press it.
I did some experiments.
A bagel was placed inside the cold toaster. The toaster was switched
on and the 'bagels' button was activated manually.
Time passed.
The toasted bagel was
frank theriault wrote:
Hi, Keith,
As someone already pointed out, he was talking $6K for the Leica which is
still years away (if ever). The DigiBessa will be much less.
Oh yeah. . . I suspected as much. Leica prices are always out of line,
even if their cameras are not built by them
Hello John,
With that utility, sharpening, color correction and what else would be
typical to be done?
What is your normal workflow with this utility?
Thanks,
Bruce
Monday, February 16, 2004, 11:34:07 AM, you wrote:
JF For those who want to eliminate most in-camera processing,
JF I now
At 11:27 AM 2/16/2004, Jostein wrote:
Deadlines are the 20th each month.
For March PUG, the website says deadline is Feb. 18th.
(http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html) Is this an anomaly?
Pat in SF
It's worth a try. I've never printed colour negs as BW myself, but I've
had several customers who did it and were happy with the results.
chris
Just took the roll in.I told the girl what i had done(she laughed)and when i mentioned
a
BW
Nice shot Shel.
Yes the shutter lag on these types is a LOT slower than a DSLR.It would come in very
handy
for work
like that.
BTW some of my best customers at horse shows spend all afternoon taking pictures of
their
kids with
PS digitals,then come and buy a picture from me,as they cannot stop
You've confused technician/camera operator with photographer. Photographers make
visually compelling images. Many full time working photographers just have enough
technical knowledge to get what they want. (Many of them don't even have that and hire
assistants/camera operators to handle the
I am slowly making my way through this
months
PUG. Comments in no
particular order:
Frozen Pond by David J Brooks
David, you can design a nature calendar for me anytime. =)
Pat in SF
Thanks very much Pat. Actually i made a calendar for the
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I had a customer last week bring me her fifth blank film in a row.
I guess she didn't learn anything from the first 4, and probably
didn't learn anything from the most recent one either.
It's sad, because I know she drives a car.
You know when you drive
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
We have an entire society now that trusts technology, sees newer
better, faster as a good thing, and is sucking on the digital teat
like greedy kittens.
Oh boy, is that a keeper.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Hot Water by Cotty
Neat freeze shot. Too bad still photography means we aren't privy to the
sounds of the drops evaporating.
Thanks Amita. And I thought it was pretty so-so. There ya go! BTW that
plate was on max, and the sound of the droplets
Yes, it will save as jpeg (three quality levels), tiff, or RAW. I've been
saving as raw, using the Pentax software to convert to tiff without any tweaks.
Then I do the final in PhotoShop 6. I'm going to upgrde to CS when I can,
because it has a great RAW converter that allows resizing at the RAW
you see the emperor's new clothes. the fact that the average photographer
these days knows less about photography isn't making their pictures worse
and arguably could be improving them.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?
Of course, I do own a stethoscope, so if anyone needs their
gallbladder removed...
Wow, between your stethoscope and my pointy hockey stick, we could
set up a medical parctice.
William Robb
since when does ability or interest in participating in a photography
mailing list have any correlation to photograpahic ability?
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Do Smarter
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I put that in when I was doing the gallery. I found I really needed
10 days to get the thing set up.
I know. I was just having a bit of tongue in my cheek.
*ouch*
The AutoPug is set up to accept entries until the 20th in
Hi,
If it's true (and I am inclined to believe it, judging from Leica's
reaction of confirming a development of M digital rangefinder),
this would be just this and the last year's best news! I really
like my old M Leica (although I _do_ use it for shooting, you can
judge at
I have an order placed with Adorama, but it sounds like the DA 16-45/4
lens is still 3 weeks out. I have a trip to Vancouver coming up in
early March and would love to have the lens before that trip. Does
anyone in the US have this lens in stock?
I'm also looking for a FA 35/2.
alex
LOL
Bob W wrote:
Conclusion:
The 'bagels' button is a device for informing bakers via wireless
internet connections when people are toasting bagels. This helps with
their just-in-time replenishment baking. As such it is of no direct
benefit to the bagel consumer.
--
graywolf
Since a week ago Thurday at 7:45pm.
Herb Chong wrote:
since when does ability or interest in participating in a photography
mailing list have any correlation to photograpahic ability?
Bill Owens wrote:
I'll try and duplicate this experiment to confirm the hypothesis.
However,
the bagel button on my toasting device appears to turn off one side of
each of the containers which hold the bagel for toasting.
I assume that if my experiment confirms yours, we must have
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004Tfz
A brief discussion of this idea found on the LensWork forum
on Photo.net
The change should have been $84.00+ but I was given
$64.00+ shortchanged by $20.00. Bringing this to the
attention of the cashier, I was told the amount of change I
received was correct. That's what the computer in the
register said. I asked her to do the math, to subtract
$85.00 from
IOW, since you got to decide what constitutes photographic ability.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?
Since a week ago Thurday at
Hum..? And my Graphic is supposed to be complicated?
--
William Robb wrote:
The ist D has 21 discreet controls required for operation, some of
which are multi function, depending on what menu or other button you
have actuated at the same time.
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as
Spike TV has been running a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Special all
afternoon here. I noted with interest the equipment being used, although
for the most part they did not focus on that and you had to catch a glimpse
here or there. I was surprised to here numerous mentions of the use of
film,
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