Re: PESO - Wheels

2006-09-02 Thread Russell Kerstetter
the bent wheel is too centered to me, but I like the idea of showing the bad one next to the good one russell On 9/1/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14973 Do you think this image works? Both yes and no are acceptable answers. If you

Re: Re: RE: PESO - Rose

2006-09-02 Thread Russell Kerstetter
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Re: RE: PESO - Rose

2006-09-02 Thread Russell Kerstetter
LOL!! yeah, I definately wouldn't want to be her right now! Hi Bill, I don't think that we have met, so.. it's nice to meet you really nice shot Shel! russell On 9/1/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better to be governor than DA at Boulder. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/9/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: You're missing the fact that you can get much better autofocus performance with a motor in the lens. This is extremely valuable for any type of action photography, be it birds or baseball. I will at least buy that 50/135/2.8 if it's

Re: Two Weeks -- Have Patience!

2006-09-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/9/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: If a lens with an Ultra Sonic Motor is called a USM lens, then a Supersonic Motor Controlled lens would be ... ? SSM, or possibly SMD. I'm betting SSM. Good joke though. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: The end of the RAW vs JPEG debate

2006-09-02 Thread Cotty
...because the K10D will let you shoot both simultaneously. :) Truth or fiction ? Yeah truth. Not bad for a plastic camera. On 2/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Dude. They're all plastic nowadays. Keep smokin' it dude :-)) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
And here's a brief explanation of how the USM works for those who are a bit vague on the technology (like me ;-): http://www.canon.com/technology/canon_tech/explanation/usm.html Dave On 9/2/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul is right. Make sure you understand what type of motor a USM is.

Re: Two Weeks -- Have Patience!

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
STD? Supersonic Transmission Devise Dave g On 9/2/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: If a lens with an Ultra Sonic Motor is called a USM lens, then a Supersonic Motor Controlled lens would be ... ? SSM, or possibly SMD. I'm betting SSM.

Re: But what about the 645D?

2006-09-02 Thread John Forbes
Good. Just to clarify. The back must cover the full 4x5 frame; not a small portion of it. So as not to be picky, let's say it must cover at least 90% of the frame. Any larger back, say 10x8, would of course also count. And by selling, we mean a single back on sale to the public. Not the

Sushi

2006-09-02 Thread Roman
http://static.flickr.com/84/231261291_5aa034932c_o.jpg this actually was at the sushi bar table... -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread John Forbes
In my younger days I once made a turntable base from solid concrete to reduce rumble. Perhaps you could do the same sort of thing by embedding a tripod screw in a block of concrete, and using a wedge to tilt it at the right angle. John On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:18:30 +0100, Doug Franklin

Re: Sushi

2006-09-02 Thread keith_w
Roman wrote: http://static.flickr.com/84/231261291_5aa034932c_o.jpg this actually was at the sushi bar table... I'll guess: frozen flower blossom, in lieu of ice. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Contax list?

2006-09-02 Thread keith_w
Bob W wrote: Thanks Bob, I've signed up. -- Cheers, Bob See all of you generic Bobs there! Sounds like an interview with Big George Foreman about his kid's names! grin Question: why the odd From address immediately below? keith whaley -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: Sushi

2006-09-02 Thread Don Williams
keith_w wrote: Roman wrote: http://static.flickr.com/84/231261291_5aa034932c_o.jpg this actually was at the sushi bar table... I'll guess: frozen flower blossom, in lieu of ice. keith whaley Looks like Borage. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/

RE: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Jens Bladt
What might the Sv program on the exposure mode wheel be? http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2006-05/20/GX2-5.jpg http://www.gatago.com/de/rec/fotografie/17902721.html Sorry if this has been discussed earlier... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85

FA 2.8-80-200mm for concert shots

2006-09-02 Thread Jens Bladt
In 2005 I did concert shots with a F-70-210mm, K-2.5/135+ 1.7 converter, K 2.8/105mm. This year I used my FA 2.8 80-200mm. This klens is fast and easy to use - easy to focus manually (bright view finder due to F.2.8). 2005: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/838747/ and

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Sensitivity priority. Dario - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: RE: K10D What might the Sv program on the exposure mode wheel be?

Re: Two Weeks -- Have Patience!

2006-09-02 Thread mike wilson
Given Pentax's proven PR capabilities, I suspect they will be named Whizzy Motor Driven lenses and will end up at the bottom of the Mariana Trench in a friendly fire incident. David Savage wrote: STD? Supersonic Transmission Devise Dave g On 9/2/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: K10D Facts and speculations v2

2006-09-02 Thread Jens Bladt
The X is hopefully for Flash. A much missed feature since the PZ-1p. The speed may by accident be set wrong on my D, since I alway use M mode for flash photography - in combination with TTL or studio flash (flash meter). So I miss a fixed 150 sec. speed setting. WHy this may be a mode, I can't

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Carlos Royo
Dario Bonazza wrote: Sensitivity priority. Dario, can you explain the difference between such sensitivity priority mode and the auto ISO that can be used in the *ist DS? Thanks, Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would also by a 400 with USM if it's offered, and I can afford it. I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario, can you explain the difference between such sensitivity priority mode and the auto ISO that can be used in the *ist DS? Not Dario, but auto ISO is just that Sv on the mode dial alludes to the possibility of control of the cameras ISO

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
It strikes me as one more thing that will need to be repaired someday...probably when parts are no longer available. When we talk about USM, as Canon term it, it is an Ultrasonic Motor, and not like a conventional motor. USM is not Canon's creation and there are many companies making

Re: Two Weeks -- Have Patience!

2006-09-02 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 1/9/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: If a lens with an Ultra Sonic Motor is called a USM lens, then a Supersonic Motor Controlled lens would be ... ? SSM, or possibly SMD. I'm betting SSM. Good joke though. Sonolta already uses SSM to denote their (3)

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Thibouille
I think a sensitivity priority mode is stupid IMO. If the Sv thing is that you choose sensitivity and the camera does the rest than it is stupid: take a D, put the ISO to a specific value (not auto) and put it into program mode: you have the exact same thing... ok you're stuck to an ISO. but what

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
I have used Canon USM lenses for several years now and the focus is fast and almost completely silent. Certainly, outside on a street with the odd car, you will not hear it all. When I use my wife's *ist Ds, it startles me by comparison. My original point, though, is that it sort of

Re: FA 2.8-80-200mm for concert shots

2006-09-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jens, Nice series, either way. The last set with the f2.8 looks a bit more professional. I don't know if it is because it was faster/easier, or if your skills have improved. Regards, Bob S. On 9/2/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2005 I did concert shots with a F-70-210mm, K-2.5/135+

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
My fervent hope is that the FA lenses that have been discontinued in the last 2-3 years, such as the FA80-200mm f2.8 FA200mm f4 macro, are going through a re-design to take advantage of the new (to Pentax) USM technology. I'll be very disappointed, if we don't see DFA versions appear in the next

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/02/06 9:01 AM, Toralf Lund, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise is a different matter, as there is bound to be *some* sound from the screws and gears. No, no, and no :-). It is really silent as no gears involved. Coty posted an excellent link and you should read it. Ken -- PDML

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/02/06 8:40 AM, Toralf Lund, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both of which can come in packages that are identical to a traditional DC motor, and could as far as I can tell be used in an in-body motor AF system - which would cancel out the need for the traditional feedback loop. The version I

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 02/09/06, Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me this all makes it similar in functionality to a traditional step(per) motor. Technically it is even more closely related to a piezoelectric motor, although I don't believe it's exactly the same thing. Both of which can come in

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
On the low-end, AFD was replaceed by the micro-motor drive, which is faster with small, light lenses but not powerful enough for anything heavy. It's essentially a small high-speed motor. It's essentially a normal DC motor with an ironless core, isn't it? (Or am I referring to

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote: I think a sensitivity priority mode is stupid IMO. If the Sv thing is that you choose sensitivity and the camera does the rest than it is stupid: The big difference in practice is that, in sensitivity priority you can instantly change ISO setting *in 1/3 or 1/2 stop increments*

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
K.Takeshita wrote: On 9/02/06 9:01 AM, Toralf Lund, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise is a different matter, as there is bound to be *some* sound from the screws and gears. No, no, and no :-). It is really silent as no gears involved. I was referring to the gears of the Pentax AF

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer outfit! 400/4 with SSM would be neat. Can't see

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
Out of 13 lenses projected until 2006, 11 are DA lenses, even the upcoming f/2.8 zooms. Right now I find it hard to believe we will see any more DFA lenses at all. Jostein On 9/2/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fervent hope is that the FA lenses that have been discontinued in the

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
K.Takeshita wrote: On 9/02/06 8:40 AM, Toralf Lund, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both of which can come in packages that are identical to a traditional DC motor, and could as far as I can tell be used in an in-body motor AF system - which would cancel out the need for the traditional feedback

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
Seems to me this all makes it similar in functionality to a traditional step(per) motor. Technically it is even more closely related to a piezoelectric motor, although I don't believe it's exactly the same thing. Both of which can come in packages that are identical to a traditional DC

Re: [Fwd: Re: K10D Questions?]

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Are we even sure the camera will be called the K10D? Now that you ask, no, not really. Oh yes we are! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Possibly dumb Adobe Camera Raw question

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote: I've read Fraser's book, and have looked for the answer to this, but there is something I'm not getting: When I use ACR, the program sets different values for Exposure, Shadows, Brightness, Saturation, and Contrast for every pic. How can I get ACR to give me exactly what I

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 02/09/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a sensitivity priority mode is stupid IMO. If the Sv thing is that you choose sensitivity and the camera does the rest than it is stupid: take a D, put the ISO to a specific value (not auto) and put it into program mode: you have the

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/02/06 9:31 AM, Toralf Lund, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to the gears of the Pentax AF setup... Yeah, it's really noisy . :-) Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Adam Maas
Toralf Lund wrote: On the low-end, AFD was replaceed by the micro-motor drive, which is faster with small, light lenses but not powerful enough for anything heavy. It's essentially a small high-speed motor. It's essentially a normal DC motor with an ironless core, isn't it? (Or am I

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: My fervent hope is that the FA lenses that have been discontinued in the last 2-3 years, such as the FA80-200mm f2.8 FA200mm f4 macro, are going through a re-design to take advantage of the new (to Pentax) USM technology. The DA*50-135/2.8 is probably the DSLR replacement

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Adam Maas
Jostein Øksne wrote: On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer outfit! 400/4 with SSM

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
I was referring to the gears of the Pentax AF setup... Yeah, it's really noisy . :-) Maybe the gears are noisy, but the motor itself is noisy, too... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 02/09/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a

RE: Two Weeks -- Have Patience!

2006-09-02 Thread Bob W
If a lens with an Ultra Sonic Motor is called a USM lens, then a Supersonic Motor Controlled lens would be ... ? SSM, or possibly SMD. I'm betting SSM. Good joke though. Sonolta already uses SSM to denote their (3) USM lenses, so they'll likely come up with something

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
But it IS driven by ultrasonic frequency AC. My point is that an AC frequency can't be ultrasonic since electricity isn't sound. The vibration in a piezoelectric setup, on the other hand, in a way is. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
Adam Maas mykroft at mykroft.com Sat Sep 2 08:49:28 EST 2006 400/4 with SSM would be neat. Can't see any good reason to make it DFA, though. DA will make it smaller, cheaper and just as good. Jostein Actually, the size constraints on a 400 are all in the glass diameter (for a given

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/02/06 10:19 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. After certain size (say 200mm or so), there is no reason to make it a DA. Still some hope for FF wishers :-). Actually, I am curious about the size of the coming DFAs. DA's image circle is a bit larger than that required for

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread graywolf
Yaa, Bill! Great to see you on the list agin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bill Owens wrote: Guess I'm the oddball here. I'm perfectly happy with my *istD and have no plans to

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it IS driven by ultrasonic frequency AC. My point is that an AC frequency can't be ultrasonic since electricity isn't sound. The vibration in a piezoelectric setup, on the other hand, in a way is. USM units are driven my an AC current but

Action/sport: joggle

2006-09-02 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060901203620 joggle hilby string toy (I guess its called this, but correct me if I'm wrong) I especially love old pavement in duotones. Comments are in Estonian, but photos speak for themself and use [related] link at the end of each essay to see all sets of

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Rob, your comment makes a lot of sense, but then you need a SAv and/or STv priority, where you can set Sensitivity via a wheel and either Aperture or Shutter speed via the other one, with the camera adjusting the other shooting parameter accordingly. Not sure the Sv proprity does that. I'm

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I am curious about the size of the coming DFAs. DA's image circle is a bit larger than that required for APS-H in order to cover the sensor movement (SR). If DFAs ever take into account the future FF, they have to cover larger image

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
At 09:38 PM 2/09/2006, Jostein wrote: On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps an AF 1,4X converter, it would be a killer

Dumb *istDS/DS2 question

2006-09-02 Thread Mat Maessen
I looked through my list archives, and I found a reference to a field in the EXIF data coming out of the *istD that will tell you how many shots the camera has taken. Is there a similar field in the EXIF data on the DS/DS2? Or some other way to find out the total exposure count for the camera?

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread graywolf
Well the correct way is to put in a concrete pit lined with 4 inches of cork, and a 4x4x8 foot block of concrete inside it to hold the tripod head. GRIN! Got the idea from how they used to mount diesel generator in power plants back in 30's. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com

Re: PESO - Wheels

2006-09-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 1, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14973 Do you think this image works? Both yes and no are acceptable answers. If you are so inclined I'd love to hear why you think either way. I like the concept. It needs some development ... a more

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/02/06 10:49 AM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there is good reason for this terminology. And Canon's marketing machine probably is at work here. Ultrasonic sounds good. The next term they might use would be turbo :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: FA 2.8-80-200mm for concert shots

2006-09-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 2, 2006, at 3:49 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: In 2005 I did concert shots with a F-70-210mm, K-2.5/135+ 1.7 converter, K 2.8/105mm. This year I used my FA 2.8 80-200mm. This klens is fast and easy to use - easy to focus manually (bright view finder due to F.2.8). 2005:

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supersonic means just above the human hearing range, ultrasonic means far above it but below the range of radio waves. Usually that is something like 15kc to 30kc for supersonic, and 30kc to 100kc for ultrasonic waves. It is the frequency that is

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, your comment makes a lot of sense, but then you need a SAv and/or STv priority, where you can set Sensitivity via a wheel and either Aperture or Shutter speed via the other one, with the camera adjusting the other shooting parameter

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread graywolf
Supersonic means just above the human hearing range, ultrasonic means far above it but below the range of radio waves. Usually that is something like 15kc to 30kc for supersonic, and 30kc to 100kc for ultrasonic waves. It is the frequency that is important to the label, not the media. Note

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Thibouille
Good point indeed. 2006/9/2, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thibouille wrote: I think a sensitivity priority mode is stupid IMO. If the Sv thing is that you choose sensitivity and the camera does the rest than it is stupid: The big difference in practice is that, in sensitivity priority

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Adam Maas
Toralf Lund wrote: But it IS driven by ultrasonic frequency AC. My point is that an AC frequency can't be ultrasonic since electricity isn't sound. The vibration in a piezoelectric setup, on the other hand, in a way is. - Toralf Then there are no USM motors by your definition, which

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:51 AM, graywolf wrote: Supersonic means just above the human hearing range, ultrasonic means far above it but below the range of radio waves. Usually that is something like 15kc to 30kc for supersonic, and 30kc to 100kc for ultrasonic waves. It is the frequency that is

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Douglas Newman
--- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is anyone else not worked up over this? I'm not worked up about it either. If it will work on existing Pentax bodies, I think it's a nice feature (but not important). If these lenses will initially autofocus ONLY on the K10D, I think it is a stupid choice

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motoror not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've been reading this thread without giving it my fullest attention. I've looked through the archives trying to find the beginning and where the possibility of a USM lens setup is planned for the K10D. Can someone provide the reference, or a pointer, to where Pentax or some reliable source

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
Then tell me, guys, Why are the medium format optics so much larger for corresponding focal lengths and max apertures? Jostein On 9/2/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas mykroft at mykroft.com Sat Sep 2 08:49:28 EST 2006 400/4 with SSM would be neat. Can't see any good reason

RE: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Jens Bladt
USM illustrated here: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=CanonAdvantageTopicDtlActi d=2648 Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af K.Takeshita

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
I agree with everything you said. While increased speed, hopefully precision, are are desirable, the reduction in sound is a huge plus. I've taken pictures using AF at events that are relatively quite and the sound of the lens focusing even made me jump ;-) Dave On 9/2/06, Douglas Newman

RE: PESO - Wheels

2006-09-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry Boris. There is something with the composition. I'm not really sure what the problem is, but I find myself wonder how it would have been if the wheels was a tiny bit further apart. My eye walks back and forth between that and the chain protection thing. Second thought. The composition is

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 03/09/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then tell me, guys, Why are the medium format optics so much larger for corresponding focal lengths and max apertures? The long lenses aren't, I had a 400/4 for my 67, it didn't taper much as the back end used the external bayonet but the

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
And an explanation of how it works: http://www.canon.com/technology/canon_tech/explanation/usm.html On 9/2/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: USM illustrated here: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=CanonAdvantageTopicDtlActid=2648 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread Eactivist
I am now the proud owner of the A 35-105, A 70-210, and DA 16-45. All bought used, KEH and Adorama. Still looking around for a few more. Now they just need a camera. :-) Why the older lenses? Well, even when Pentax does come out with some new telephotos, it may be a while before I feel I can

Uk review of macro lenses

2006-09-02 Thread Peter Fairweather
There is a new magazine in the UK called Photography Monthly which just reviewed macro lenses. They rate the Pentax DFA 100mm (84/100) well above the Canon 60mm EFS and more suprisingly the Canon 180mm L and the Nikon 200mm F4 both of which cost over £1000!! (all in the low 70's) The top lens was

Re: september exhibits :: Traveler in London and PHIG Sampler: 47 Flavors

2006-09-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/1/2006 1:18:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Traveler in London - Zocalo Coffeehouse 645 Bancroft @ Dutton, San Leandro, CA www.zocalo.com August 13 to September 17, 2006 Closing party - Saturday, September 9, 7-9 PM My solo show will

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
Point about front element taken, but the front element is not THE single factor in deciding the weight of a lens. I have five lenses for the 645 system, and all of them are heavier, and bulkier, than their K counterparts. Jostein On 9/2/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread graywolf
Well, yes, but on the other hand it occurs to me that we are talking about advertising speak as if it had some intrinsic meaning. Kind of foolish isn't it? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
Welcome back Marnie (well...your sort of back ;-). It is indeed an exciting time to be a Pentax user. Dave On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am now the proud owner of the A 35-105, A 70-210, and DA 16-45. All bought used, KEH and Adorama. Still looking around for a few

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Bill! Great to have you back! Jostein On 9/2/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess I'm the oddball here. I'm perfectly happy with my *istD and have no plans to replace it. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ryan

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread graywolf
The telephotos are not. Only when you get into focal lengths that will not cover 6x7 (or whatever), do the lenses get smaller for a smaller formats. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread David Savage
On 9/2/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then tell me, guys, Why are the medium format optics so much larger for corresponding focal lengths and max apertures? Because it looks more professional to have a big lens mounted on a big camera. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread Don Sanderson
Congrats, 3 of the best zooms I've ever used! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:14 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again I am now the proud owner

The Apron (Was RE: PESO - Rose)

2006-09-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, Russell, here it is: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/apron.html LOL I'd just taken it from the laundry when I read your message, so it was a simple thing to grab a little snap for you. Shel [Original Message] From: Russell Kerstetter maybe next we can see a picture of that

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motoror not?USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Can someone provide the reference, or a pointer, to where Pentax or some reliable source mentions that such lenses will be available? Or is this whole USM thing just more speculation? Shel - Shel, as posters have indicated, the discussion goes back to the late 90s (at least). The

Herb Keppler's comments in Photo Reporter

2006-09-02 Thread George Sinos
Keppler always has an interesting take on the industry. He's been around long enough to put things into perspective. He's authored this article on the battle for the 10% of the DSLR market not owned by the big two.

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
You're missing the fact that you can get much better autofocus performance with a motor in the lens. Paul - I'm not questioning this, Paul, but could you provide more details about what you mean by better? Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am now the proud owner of the A 35-105, A 70-210, and DA 16-45. All bought used, KEH and Adorama. Still looking around for a few more. Oooh. Three *nice* lenses there! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: On 9/2/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then tell me, guys, Why are the medium format optics so much larger for corresponding focal lengths and max apertures? Because it looks more professional to have a big lens mounted on a big camera. Har! (Beat me to it...)

Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motorornot?USM?)

2006-09-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ahhh just more speculation. Thanks! However, it would be nice if the K10D supported current AF technology and could be adaptable to newer, USM-type lenses in the future, giving the camera both backwards and forwards lens compatibility. There's a K100D in a store not far from me. I may

Re: OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread George Sinos
Marnie - Welcome back the fold. Just a little advice if you're trying to save a little cash. After you get the new Pentax camera body, don't try out the DA 50-200 zoom. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Rose

2006-09-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bill Owens wrote: Minimally distracting. I should have also said it's a beautiful shot and I wish I could do as well. Bill (1) Bill, you can -- and have :) (2) Shel, it is a beautiful shot - and... (3) count me in as one who doesn't want to see you in an apron :) (4) my windows don't get

Re: Lens in motor or not? USM?

2006-09-02 Thread Toralf Lund
Toralf Lund wrote: But it IS driven by ultrasonic frequency AC. My point is that an AC frequency can't be ultrasonic since electricity isn't sound. The vibration in a piezoelectric setup, on the other hand, in a way is. - Toralf Then there are no USM motors by your

Re: September PUG is open

2006-09-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Actually, a theme like juxtaposition requires little or no effort. Unless you shoot a clear sky, the sea or a snowfield, pretty much every photo on the planet has something juxtaposed with something else. Here's my mum juxtaposed with my dad. Gee, they're juxtaposed

Re: OT: Becoming Pentaxian Again

2006-09-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/2/2006 10:14:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a little advice if you're trying to save a little cash. After you get the new Pentax camera body, don't try out the DA 50-200 zoom. See you later, gs === LOL. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: K10D

2006-09-02 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Doug Franklin wrote: ryan brooks wrote: You absolutely need a drive at that magnification and shutter speed. May be, but as I said in another post, I've gotten sharp results with the same rig, just replacing the *ist D and 2 sec mirror prefire with the LX and its mirror

RE: K10D Facts and speculations v2

2006-09-02 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Jens Bladt wrote: The X is hopefully for Flash. A much missed feature since the PZ-1p. The speed may by accident be set wrong on my D, since I alway use M mode for flash photography - in combination with TTL or studio flash (flash meter). What kind of wrong? Slower than

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