Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread John Francis
If the fuel tank didn't rupture, then you'd get even more buoyancy from having the tanks empty (or at least full of air). If it did rupture then you won't get any buoyancy from the jet fuel either. That's assuming the fuel cell is rigid, which I believe to be the case. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
2009/1/17 Derby Chang : > Ken Waller wrote: >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f >> >> - Original Message - From: "William Robb" >> >> Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 >> >> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: SDHC - >>> Ultra 2 or 3 >>>

Re: OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:03 PM, David Savage wrote: It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO. That's pretty goofy. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

On-topic enablement

2009-01-16 Thread Derby Chang
Along the lines of MaritimTim's enablement, the best 25 bucks I've spent lately - one of Mark's cafepress caps. I'm not normally a hat person, but a recent bit of sunburn after a No 1 haircut made me reconsider. Cuts down on spurious meter readings from stray light in the viewfinder too. Hig

Re: OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-16 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: G'day All. Sometimes it's handy having a camera with a high FPS count: It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO. Cheers, Dave That is just cool. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derby

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread Derby Chang
Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: Heard o

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
I was just reading an account that stated they felt that since jet fuel is lighter than water, some buoyancy was gained from the onboard fuel load. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane John Francis

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: Heard on the radio this

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jan 16, 2009, at 17:09 , John Francis wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 09:39:54AM +0900, David Savage wrote: And lets not forget to mention the engineers that designed a plane that doesn't fall apart when it gets wet in the wash. Yeah - that impressed me, too. The darn thing floated four

PESO: bazaar

2009-01-16 Thread Subash
hi, am back from a week's trip to my native state kerala, on the west coast of india. got plenty of photos, hopefully some of them good. here's one to start with : http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5292119179876878786 a hawker in the local bazaar waiting for a customers. would love to h

Re: OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-16 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: Sometimes it's handy having a camera with a high FPS count: It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO. It's /much/ better to be standing "nearby" (in the safety zone) and watch one of those shoots. :-) There are a c

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Doug Franklin
John Francis wrote: Yeah - that impressed me, too. The darn thing floated four miles downstream, and was snagged and tied up safely before it got to sink! The Airbus craft apparently have a "close all external vents" emergency button in the cockpit, according to what I'm hearing at the mome

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Doug Franklin
John Sessoms wrote: There ain't no book for what this guy did. No, there's not. Those passengers and crew were really lucky that this guy is one of the ones that writes the "when everything goes to hell" book, though. No diminution of what he accomplished, but those passengers were /reall

Re: OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Well that's interesting... Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All. > > Sometimes it's handy having a camera with a high FPS count: > > > > It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO. > > Cheers, >

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers that were hiring at $250,000/day last summer are now available at $3000/day. Thanks for letting

GESO - 003 "Study in Lichen and Moss"

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
A few shots I took the other day. It was overcast so the light level low, just as it was with the Study in Chain Link, shot at the same time (mostly). http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO%20%20-%20%20Pentaxian/index3.html Comments and criticisms are always welcome as I grow(?). Joseph McAllis

RE: PESO: Sick Transit

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
Local boys - some of them still live & play around here. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIAP_-Siz4 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QhDJaT9Y1KQ&feature=related > > > One of my all-time favourite songs was inspired by "The Sweeney" > > http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cQoW6GpD9pU&feature=relat

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, David Savage wrote: > 2009/1/17 frank theriault : >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: >>> frank theriault wrote: I solved the problem, too. I put a lens on my camera. I look through the viewfinder. What I see in the viewfinder

Re: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread John Francis
I've seen a row of houses painted just like this in Galway. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:56:41AM -, Bob W wrote: > :o) > > > > > Somewhere near a paint factory or outlet ;-} > > > > Kenneth Waller > > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > > > > > "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly an

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 09:39:54AM +0900, David Savage wrote: > And lets not forget to mention the engineers that designed a plane > that doesn't fall apart when it gets wet in the wash. Yeah - that impressed me, too. The darn thing floated four miles downstream, and was snagged and tied up safe

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread ann sanfedele
I hope someone does -- nice shot Rick - is it near Philly? or are you in Europe? ann Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Frank! You didn't answer the question, though... Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 1/16/09, frank theriault wrote: From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: W

RE: PESO: Sick Transit

2009-01-16 Thread Anthony Farr
One of my all-time favourite songs was inspired by "The Sweeney" http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cQoW6GpD9pU&feature=related (The original music video) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IsC0T0pKwfw&NR=1 (an appearance on "The Kenny Everett Video Show" with "The Sweeney" clips in the background) Fu

OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
G'day All. Sometimes it's handy having a camera with a high FPS count: It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Rick, I like it, but it feels just a bit too clipped off on the bottom. I would have liked to seen more. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, January 16, 2009, 2:18:59 PM, you wrote: RW> "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." RW> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507

RE: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
:o) > > Somewhere near a paint factory or outlet ;-} > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > > "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://p

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
Earth. Nice composition & colours. Cheers, Dave 2009/1/17 Rick Womer : > "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg > > (K10D, DA 50-200) > > Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
2009/1/17 Ken Waller : > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" > > Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 > > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers t

Re: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Somewhere near a paint factory or outlet ;-} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ??? "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=l

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
2009/1/17 frank theriault : > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: >> frank theriault wrote: >>> >>> I solved the problem, too. I put a lens on my camera. I look through >>> the viewfinder. What I see in the viewfinder mostly corresponds with >>> what's going to show up on the pi

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers that were hiring at $250,000/day last summer are n

Re: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Very nice in spite of the relatively poor light. Try it with a little less sky - cropping out about half the sky on the LH edge really improves it IMO. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ??? "G

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Doug
On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Rick Womer wrote: "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200) Rick reading entirely too much into your message, I'm adding "in Australia (Oz)" to my original guess. based

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread David Savage
And lets not forget to mention the engineers that designed a plane that doesn't fall apart when it gets wet in the wash. :-) The media here in Perth are making a big deal about it because a local lass was the only Aussie on board. Doesn't hurt that she's easy on the eye's either. Cheers, Dave

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
National news tonight interviewed his wife, living in Calif. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Paul Sorenson" Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane The co-pilot is a Wisconsin guy - lives in a small town just south of Madison, WI. His parents both

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
It was a stroke of good luck/grace of god that the plane came to rest almost in the path of the New York to New Jersey commuter ferries. The ferries have low bows that greatly assisted in the survivors climbing onboard. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message -

RE: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200) I really like it. Several strong diagonals, multiple repetitions, the varied colors of the walls echoed in the colors of sky and clouds. Lots of

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread keith_w
Cotty wrote: On 16/1/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg Rick It looks like it, doesn't it! Look at all the chimley pots! Lovely! keith whaley That wouldn't be Observat

RE: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
Uuggh. How can you live near somewhere so twee? It's almost like... San Francisco... > > >I'd also hazard a guess that it's quite an old picture, > because the houses > >have TV aerials - no longer needed with satellite and cable. > > You'd be surprised at all those old fuddy-duddies living in

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:32 , Peter Alling wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Joseph McAllister On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:43 , John Francis wrote: > That's pretty much the slant on the news stories out here, too. > Of course the fact that he's a bay area local with a long history > of service (including teaching emergency safety techniques) helps. From listening

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/1/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd also hazard a guess that it's quite an old picture, because the houses >have TV aerials - no longer needed with satellite and cable. You'd be surprised at all those old fuddy-duddies living in Oxford mate ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/1/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: >"Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg > >(K10D, DA 50-200) > >Rick That wouldn't be Observatory Street in Oxford by any chance?

RE: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
> Looks like working class Britain somewhere, but due to the fact you're > asking, I bet not! > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank It's not working class any more. The houses are a very common type all over Britain. I live in something similar. But the pastel colours tell us that the whole terrace has be

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Doug
On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Rick Womer wrote: "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200) Rick a fishing village? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdm

RE: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread John Coyle
Looks very much like a street near where I used to live in Dulwich, southern suburbs of London. Could equally be in almost any renovated area of any major British city! The houses are typical of late 19th-century terraced worker's cottages, many of which have been transformed internally. John i

RE: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
> Or is everyone here simply too cheap to buy what they need for a new camera with a different format? Dunno about everyone else, but I sure am. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault A corollary to that, of course, is that if I find that the thing in the viewfinder is too small, I walk forward until it's the right size, if it's too big, I step backwards. During all of this, I'm keeping to mind Robert Capa's famous dictum: "If your photos aren't good eno

Re: Snowflake Photography

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Christine Aguila" Very cool: This one looks like a film developing reel: http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn16170-snowflakes/9 Thanks for posting, Paul. Cheers, Christine It does at that. I wonder what the "crop factor" would be for that size film though. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Disc

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Jan 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Does make it a little harder to get the 24mm lens on 35mm film AOV > with an APS-C camera though. What's so difficult? There are multiple current Pentax lenses that achieve 16mm for your Pentax DSLR, providing the sam

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
You also did some artful out of focus/motion blur... Bob S. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Frank, >> Your photos are more focused today on digital. >> I suspect you're doing less of that experimentation today. >

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Birmingham, UK? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg > > (K10D, DA 50-200) > > Rick > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.ne

Sleep

2009-01-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Saw a very interesting exhibition at the news today http://www.reginhjertholm.no/project.php/pages/projects/007_sove A study of People, sleeping. A simple project. The photographer has invited 100 people to sleep in his house. May have been done before, but it moves me. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pe

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well Rick, I'm lost too... but that's a nice photo, BTW. LF Rick Womer escreveu: "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > Thanks, Frank! > > You didn't answer the question, though... Looks like working class Britain somewhere, but due to the fact you're asking, I bet not! ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Frank, > Your photos are more focused today on digital. > I suspect you're doing less of that experimentation today. When I shot film I didn't have autofocus. ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresso

RE: AF200FGZ

2009-01-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Alastair Robertson" Anyone own an AF200FGZ? My 360 disappeared from my Domke bag while slithering down a bank on a traverse through the boondocks in pursuit of a plant for my PhD student and I will need to replace it. I already have the 540, and just use the 360 for fill when I am doing

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Same problem, similar solution... but add a new notebook to that schedule. Sad to say, I have to stretch my ca$h a lot. LF Charles Robinson escreveu: On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Or is everyone here simply too cheap to buy what they need for a new camera with a different

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
I'm glad you put this in writing... now I can trim 20 years of my age and feel I'm young again... ;-) LF Paul Stenquist escreveu: I thought in equivalent field of view when I first moved to digital. Now after tens of thousands of digital photos, I know what the FOV of a given lens is on my ca

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
The co was mentioned by some newsperson this morning, as a verbal addendum, but her co-anchor talked over her, making it a murmur. I'd love to find out exactly who was at the yoke on take-off. On an A 320 once the data is punched into the flight auto-pilot, the plane can and frequently is t

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, Your photos are more focused today on digital. I suspect you're doing less of that experimentation today. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Peter Alling > wrote: >> I've never thought that digital is as different i

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Frank! You didn't answer the question, though... Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 1/16/09, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ??? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:35 PM > On Fri

Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bob W wrote: >> >> Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers >> that were hiring at $250,000/day last summer are now >> available at $3000/day. > > Thanks for letting us know - I've been waiting for prices to drop. Makes me want to go looking for

Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > "Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg > > (K10D, DA 50-200) Amazing colours and composition. Well seen, well photographed! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourge

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
The co-pilot is a Wisconsin guy - lives in a small town just south of Madison, WI. His parents both pilots as well. His wife didn't know that was his flight until he called her to let her know he was OK. -p ann sanfedele wrote: Being in NY, I'm getting even more than the usual amount of satu

PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Rick Womer
"Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..." http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link dir

RE: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
> > Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers > that were hiring at $250,000/day last summer are now > available at $3000/day. Thanks for letting us know - I've been waiting for prices to drop. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: Fw: PESO - "Still hanging around"

2009-01-16 Thread Rick Womer
Ken, I like this, but I think it would be a stronger image if you cropped it considerably--the leaves are not prominent enough in the frame. Some increase in saturation in the leaves would help, too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Ken Waller wrote: > From: Ken Wal

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Being in NY, I'm getting even more than the usual amount of saturation on this story -- There are lots of west side folk who saw it from their windows... including some news guys from their window... one of whom said he went for his camera, then reminded himself the thing to do was call 911 FIRS

RE: G1 equipment photos

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
> > Frank, I think Godfrey might soon be selling his ;-). > > I didn't say I wanted to ~buy~ one, I said I drool over it. > are they reliably sealed against such behaviour? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from th

RE: Pipe dream

2009-01-16 Thread Bob W
> > > > http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/760/136/ > > > > Bob > > Excellent, thanks. There is quite a debate going on in the > cider world about the origins of the champagne method of wine > production; a record of it being used to produce cider has > been found that predates anything

Re: Heart of Stone

2009-01-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Christine Aguila wrote: You caught the frame just at the right moment, Walt. Good one & cute too. Cheers, Christine ditto that! with also an aww! ann - Original Message - From: "Walter Hamler" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:52 PM Su

Re: G1 equipment photos

2009-01-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nope. Um. I'll sell one of the E-1s and the K10D first. And the Pentax 645 kit. And the lenses I don't use enough. I might sell my second L1 kit, eventually. Got a few too many pieces of equipment, that I'm not using, for my comfort level at the moment. The L1 is my standard working camer

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:43 , John Francis wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 01:27:28PM -0500, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, jtainter wrote: "Apparently flew into a flock of geese and got bird strikes on both engines just after take-off" No doubt Frank will feel vind

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > frank theriault wrote: >> >> I solved the problem, too. I put a lens on my camera. I look through >> the viewfinder. What I see in the viewfinder mostly corresponds with >> what's going to show up on the picture. > > That is pretty much what

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:32 , Peter Alling wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, William Robb wrote: From: "Bruce Walker"

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > I agree with everything you say! I just thoughtas an historical > factFrank has been shooting longer than 2 years! Sheesh! Relax, Christine... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bress

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 01:27:28PM -0500, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, jtainter wrote: > > "Apparently flew into a flock of geese and got bird strikes on both engines > > just after take-off" > > > > No doubt Frank will feel vindicated to know that the birds may have

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
-Original Message- >From: m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 6:49 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane > > > William Robb wrote: >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "frank theriault" >> Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane >> >> >> > On

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Peter Alling wrote: > I've never thought that digital is as different in concept from film as some > do. He was good before he's good now. All that happened is he gained a > little more control over his final output. There are not many differences between the

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Doug Brewer
frank theriault wrote: I solved the problem, too. I put a lens on my camera. I look through the viewfinder. What I see in the viewfinder mostly corresponds with what's going to show up on the picture. That is pretty much what I was about to type. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:47, Paul Stenquist wrote: I thought in equivalent field of view when I first moved to digital. Now after tens of thousands of digital photos, I know what the FOV of a given lens is on my camera. The 35mm FOVs never cross my mind. My 16-50 is a 16-50. Period. At one en

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Christine Aguila
I agree with everything you say! I just thoughtas an historical factFrank has been shooting longer than 2 years! Sheesh! - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Henry I've never

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
I've never thought that digital is as different in concept from film as some do. He was good before he's good now. All that happened is he gained a little more control over his final output. -Original Message- >From: Christine Aguila >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 2:09 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: G1 equipment photos

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
About a year and a half ago I bought a 70-210mm Vivitar S1 2.8~4.0mm, mostly for fun. I haven't really wanted anything since, well a sensor upgrade, but the prices went back up on the K20D after Christmas, so I'll have to wait till it hits my price point again. I'm perfectly happy with the siz

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Christine Aguila
I totally agree Frank is a "damned good photographer." I just thought he has been shooting digital longer than 2 years. - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Henry Frank is a damned good

Re: PESO - Watching

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > the distortion makes it kind of a creepy shot--so, if you're going after > creepy, you succeeded :-). Cheers, Christine Interesting how the two females commenting find it creepy. That says something, I guess... Anyway, thanks to every

Re: FS Friday - Pentax (of course) lenses

2009-01-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Desjardins, Steve wrote: Many people that I know confuse the terms "zoom" and "telephoto". One doesn't expect to hear it from a ebay power seller who is seliing one though! I find that slapping them helps. Darn I didn't think of that! ann -Original Message- From: pdml-boun

RE: FS Friday - Pentax (of course) lenses

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
Usually those people are beyond my reach... -Original Message- >From: "Desjardins, Steve" >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 11:08 AM >To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >Subject: RE: FS Friday - Pentax (of course) lenses > >Many people that I know confuse the terms "zoom" and "telephoto". I find that >s

Re: PESO - Henry

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
Frank is a damned good photographer, in spite of his self deprication. (And he's fun to make fun of). I remember trying to convince him to process his own B&W, I thought he'd be even better. -Original Message- >From: Christine Aguila >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 12:00 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss M

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
-Original Message- >From: frank theriault >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000 > >On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: >> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:39, frank theriault wrote: >>> >>> After

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Alling
There were a lot of heros in New York yesterday. The pilot was just the centerpiece. -Original Message- >From: frank theriault >Sent: Jan 16, 2009 1:27 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT - No More Plane > >On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, jtainter wrote: >> "Apparently

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, jtainter wrote: > "Apparently flew into a flock of geese and got bird strikes on both engines > just after take-off" > > No doubt Frank will feel vindicated to know that the birds may have been > Canada Geese. I was thinking exactly that thing as I read the stor

Re: [SEEPHOTO] G1 equipment photos

2009-01-16 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Michael Levy wrote: >> but what good is it if you can't keep it still? I'll probably sell that >> lens. >> > > There are some cures for this: > 1) Hire a small boy as a "camera bearer" (like one of those Safari "gun > bearers" who will offer his shoulder when need

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Adam Maas
I'm using Bridge CS3, and it does seem to get wonky after a couple of days open. I'll probably get CS4 later this spring. -Adam On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I keep PSCS4 Bridge open all day without problems. I couldn't live without > it. No wonkiness here. > Paul > On

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Ken Waller
Works for me. Its only a tool ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000 On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:39 AM, frank theriault wrote: I solved the problem, too. I put a lens on my ca

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul Stenquist wrote: I thought in equivalent field of view when I first moved to digital. Now after tens of thousands of digital photos, I know what the FOV of a given lens is on my camera. The 35mm FOVs never cross my mind. My 16-50 is a 16-50. Period. At one end it's nice for landscapes and

Re: OT - No More Plane

2009-01-16 Thread jtainter
"Apparently flew into a flock of geese and got bird strikes on both engines just after take-off" No doubt Frank will feel vindicated to know that the birds may have been Canada Geese. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSC

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:39, frank theriault wrote: >> >> After nearly a couple of years, I >> have a pretty good idea what a lens of a given focal length will do on >> film on my *istD. Exact numbers don't interest me so much... >> > > F

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I thought in equivalent field of view when I first moved to digital. Now after tens of thousands of digital photos, I know what the FOV of a given lens is on my camera. The 35mm FOVs never cross my mind. My 16-50 is a 16-50. Period. At one end it's nice for landscapes and my VTs. At the oth

Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote: I solved this problem for myself by NOT using words at all. I've tried this and found it causes more problems than it solves in my life. ("...saying a big hello to all intelligent life forms out there! And to the rest of you guys, the secret is to bang the rocks to

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