Re: PESO: Neglect

2016-12-21 Thread Philip Northeast
Looks lovely, spend the money on restoration not lawyers. Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 22/12/16 4:57 pm, David Mann wrote: We went to the cheesemongers this morning but the shop was super busy so it wasn't a good idea for us to bring the baby's stroller in. While my wife

PESO: Neglect

2016-12-21 Thread David Mann
We went to the cheesemongers this morning but the shop was super busy so it wasn't a good idea for us to bring the baby's stroller in. While my wife queued for cheese I took my darling daughter for a walk and ended up in Cathedral Square. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1033/#peso I shot

PESO: paying for the music

2016-12-21 Thread Philip Northeast
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Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
and again :-) ann On 12/21/2016 1:02 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Many happy returns, Mister J :-). All the way to 120 and beyond! Boris On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hope you have a great day. Buy yourself a few lenses! Paul via phone --

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

2016-12-21 Thread John
For me, it's the same photograph. On 12/21/2016 9:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: How about an all time favorite photograph rather than one's best? Not the same of course. The first is easy for me; the latter would be difficult. Paul via phone On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:18 PM, John

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread John
I like it. I'm 67. On 12/21/2016 7:22 AM, Mark Stringer wrote: I say lets vote on it. Like or dislike but each vote must be accompanied by the voter's age. I like it...66 On 12/21/2016 1:28 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: Couldn’t disagree more. m On Dec 20, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Ken Waller

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Alan C
Excellent capture, Jack. Which one of these do you think it is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_eagle I see our Fish Eagle & your Bald Eagle are in there too. Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:59 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Sac. Eagle

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread John
Well, there's still Snap-On Tools On 12/21/2016 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Ken Waller wrote: The calendars are instantly collectible works. By who? I've never seen them any place but in garages. I don't think I've ever seen a Pirelli calendar in the flesh. Over the years I've seen

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread John
Do they sell the calendars? I thought they were a promotional give-away item? On 12/21/2016 1:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote: You have to ask yourself what are they trying to do Promote their tires, sell calendars or cater to older women. The photos are obviously well done but I bet they don't

Re: OT: printer question - which would you do?

2016-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I solved that problem by printing on Epson's best paper almost all the time (premium luster). But I would use photo black all the time. Paul via phone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:01 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > If you don't want to keep going back and forth between photo

Re: Portraits of Women on the Job!

2016-12-21 Thread John
On 12/21/2016 7:35 AM, Mark Stringer wrote: Here is another impressive young woman. https://www.instagram.com/p/BMcbCnZDntQ/?taken-by=maegenwellsguitars kind of her story in a nutshell. Would love one of her creations. Beautiful photography on her website. www.maegenwellsguitars.com On

OT: printer question - which would you do?

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
If you don't want to keep going back and forth between photo black and matte black on the R2400 (or the like) is it less harmful to print something on matte paper with the photo black cartridge in or glossy paper with the matte black in? The r2400 knows which and doesn't offer a paper setting

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
I have about 100 photos I'd say that I'm really quite pleased with (that sounds rude, but I have taken well over 200,000 photos) I could no more pic ONE favorite photo of mine than I could pick one favorite food or one favorite filmor one favorite place or one favorite book or even one

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
You could even crop it more -- s sharp! ann On 12/21/2016 4:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. 45% of the frame. At, maybe, 100yds? 150-450 hand held. Chilly, fairly stiff breeze. J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1141 -- PDML

Re: PESO - 'Waiting for Takeoff'

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
ditto ann On 12/19/2016 4:10 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's a real beauty, Ken. On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Taken late August on a dewey morning in Seney National Wildlife Refuge in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with a K-3 and a 200mm f4.0 ED

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

2016-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
How about an all time favorite photograph rather than one's best? Not the same of course. The first is easy for me; the latter would be difficult. Paul via phone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:18 PM, John wrote: > >> On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote: >>> On Dec 21,

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

2016-12-21 Thread John
On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote: On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller wrote: How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best of their work. I'd never be able to decide. And I'd probably find it was taken with another brand.

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dan! J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Very nice! > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> >>

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
"Sac" ls an abbreviation of Sacramento. J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016, at 08:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. >> 45% of the frame. >> At, maybe, 100yds? >> >>

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian! I cropped that based on the much touted "rule of thirds." A rule often demanded by those seemingly offended by an image not adhering to such. I basically agree with you. J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > >>

Re: PESO: Another Dog Picture

2016-12-21 Thread Bill
On 12/20/2016 5:51 AM, Carlos R wrote: Very sorry to hear that, Bill. Nice dog and nice photo too. Thanks Carlos. Carlos 2016-12-18 17:39 GMT+01:00 Bill : Five weeks ago, my Rottie was diagnosed with lymphoma. We had him put to sleep last Tuesday. This was

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Bill
On 12/21/2016 9:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: It's coffee o'clock ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it safe enough, no? :) 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld. 5' gridded

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. > 45% of the frame. > At, maybe, 100yds? > > 150-450 hand held. > Chilly, fairly stiff breeze. > > J > >

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016, at 08:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. > 45% of the frame. > At, maybe, 100yds? > > 150-450 hand held. > Chilly, fairly stiff breeze. Very nice - love those birds. I think I'd crop a bit off the right - seems to be a lot of blank space

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, and it was a "must have." Thanks, Ken! J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:38:50 PM Subject: Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle Nice crisp capture. You must have a good lens !

Re: Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
Nice crisp capture. You must have a good lens ! -Original Message- >From: Jack Davis >Subject: Peso-Sac. Eagle > > > >This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. >45% of the frame. >At, maybe, 100yds? > >150-450 hand held. >Chilly, fairly stiff breeze. > >J >

Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
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Peso-Sac. Eagle

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
This AM at the Sac. Ntl. Preserve. 45% of the frame. At, maybe, 100yds? 150-450 hand held. Chilly, fairly stiff breeze. J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1141 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Jostein
Awww. Thanks guys! Will do something about that lens thing. :-) Jostein Den 21.12.2016 19.36, skrev Marco Alpert: What he said Paul said! - Marco On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Hope you have a great day. Buy yourself a few

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
That paragraph beginning "So it gets critical acclaim..." is not what I wrote, but what I quoted. Somehow the quoting gets lost in the journey to or from the server. As I said, I quite like Lindbergh's style, and I like these pictures, but let's not get confused about their purpose. B > On

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yup. Except I think you are a little over the top in your criticism. It is an art piece and a collectible, a part of what Pirelli does to foster the brand. Whether it appeals to you or not is a matter of personal decision. Lots of people collect them, and collect books printed as collections

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
The calendar is a marketing gimmick. If they had stuck to standard garage wall fare nobody would pay any attention at all. Several decades ago some smart ad man realised they could get an annual burst of cheap global publicity by confounding expectations. They do this by giving carte blanche

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
Reading, drinking coffee and waiting for her laundry to dry, all at the same time? More than any man could achieve... B > On 21 Dec 2016, at 16:07, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Nice shot, but don't think it is multitasking > > ann > > >> On 12/21/2016 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker

Re: PESO - Au Revoir Mr. Grock

2016-12-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
Not at all. - I also had to look him up. Interesting to see that Louis de Funes had an early uncredited appearance in the film. > On 21 Dec 2016, at 14:57, ann sanfedele wrote: > > It's actually a quartet to my eye... but I like Larry adding "Apterian trio" > to our lexicon

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Larry Colen
Ken Waller wrote: The calendars are instantly collectible works. By who? I've never seen them any place but in garages. I don't think I've ever seen a Pirelli calendar in the flesh. Over the years I've seen countless calendars of conventionally pretty girls holding tools in such a manner

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Zos Xavius
LMAO. My thoughts exactly. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Are these the images? Really?? > > Paul via phone > >> On Dec 20, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> Peter Lindbergh shot this years Pirelli Calendar without using

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
The calendars are instantly collectible works. By who? I've never seen them any place but in garages. Perhaps they're venturing into something other than tires - snark, snark Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Godfrey

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with Marco. The Pirelli calendar is a piece of marcom collateral that serves the dual function of promoting Pirelli (not necessarily their tires) as a company that supports the development of art and the humanities as well as provides a venue for photographers to exhibit their works.

Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Marco Alpert
What he said Paul said! - Marco > On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Hope you have a great day. Buy yourself a few lenses! > > What he said! > >> >> Paul via phone >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
And their tires aren't as good as Michellin's- so there ! -Original Message- >From: "P. J. Alling" >Subject: Re: Pirelli goes natural > >Not really, they lost their way with last years calendar, now they're >wandering around in an open field trying to cater

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
You have to ask yourself what are they trying to do Promote their tires, sell calendars or cater to older women. The photos are obviously well done but I bet they don't sell as many calendars as in years past - a lot of non car people have never seen/heard of the Pirelli calendar.

Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Hope you have a great day. Buy yourself a few lenses! What he said! Paul via phone -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Ken Waller
Great subject/pose, very nice lighting... What's not to like? -Original Message- >From: Bruce Walker >Subject: PESO - Multitasking > >It's coffee o'clock ... > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ > >90% SFW. There's a sliver of

Re: Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Many happy returns, Mister J :-). All the way to 120 and beyond! Boris On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Hope you have a great day. Buy yourself a few lenses! > > Paul via phone > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net >

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Zos Xavius
I think I could help her multitask more. ;) On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > It's coffee o'clock ... > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ > > 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it >

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Nice shot, but don't think it is multitasking ann On 12/21/2016 10:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: It's coffee o'clock ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it safe enough, no? :) 645z, dfa645

Re: PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's coffee o'clock ... > >https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ > >90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it >safe enough, no? :) > >645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO;

PESO - Multitasking

2016-12-21 Thread Bruce Walker
It's coffee o'clock ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/31401153970/lightbox/ 90% SFW. There's a sliver of nipple, but it's in b so that makes it safe enough, no? :) 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8, f/4, 1/15th sec, 800 ISO; handheld. 5' gridded stripbox, camera right. Dane Halo, model,

Re: PESO - keeping warm

2016-12-21 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree with your nitpick. :) Sadly, I didn't have any better frames from the sequence. Thanks, Paul. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Paul in MKE wrote: > Very nice. Nitpicking a little though...The position of her left foot > bothers me. There's no definition between

Re: PESO - Au Revoir Mr. Grock

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
It's actually a quartet to my eye... but I like Larry adding "Apterian trio" to our lexicon A nit - trim the bottom a smidgen and the right-hand side - I found the blur a bit distracting.. had to look up mr grock, which will probably disappoint Bob W ann On 12/21/2016 1:41 AM, Marco

Re: PESO - keeping warm

2016-12-21 Thread Bruce Walker
I appreciate that, Dan. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Very nice portrait in all respects. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Bruce Walker > wrote: >

Re: PESO - keeping warm

2016-12-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Paul! On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Beautiful. Wonderful light and a great look from the model. > Paul >> On Dec 20, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >> >> Just Wow ! Very inviting. >> >> >>

Re: PESO - keeping warm

2016-12-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, Ken. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > Just Wow ! Very inviting. > > > -Original Message- >>From: Bruce Walker >>Subject: PESO - keeping warm >> >>A seasonally (north of the equator, anyway)

Re: OT: An Unusual Photo Essay

2016-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
What no Liver, Fava Beans and Chianti? On 12/21/2016 9:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

OT: An Unusual Photo Essay

2016-12-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurasilver/a-photographer-has-recreated-all-the-last-meals-of-prisoners?utm_term=.ytzD11e2b_medium=email_campaign=News%20-%201221%20Wednesday_content=News%20-%201221%20Wednesday+CID_403127c9fff187be4f70bcd128970d1f_source=BuzzFeed%20Newsletters#.gq9500W3d Dan Matyola

Re: PESO: The Scottish Girl

2016-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
What Marco said ann (a partly Scottish girl) On 12/20/2016 2:04 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: Really lovely. - Marco On Dec 20, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Gonz wrote: Trying out a Cosina 50mm 1.2. Has a warmer cast than the Pentax equivalent, but I really like the bokeh. wide

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I never got beyond the phrase "emotional nakedness." Too "artsy" for me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > Sorry but the new calendar just doesn't cut it for me. > I much prefer the earlier

Happy birthday Jostein!

2016-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
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Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Not really, they lost their way with last years calendar, now they're wandering around in an open field trying to cater to their new art constituency. Too bad it doesn't really exist. It's a pinup calendar, the women in it aren't supposed to be real, They're either a fantasy or idealized,

Re: Portraits of Women on the Job!

2016-12-21 Thread Mark Stringer
Here is another impressive young woman. https://www.instagram.com/p/BMcbCnZDntQ/?taken-by=maegenwellsguitars kind of her story in a nutshell. Would love one of her creations. Beautiful photography on her website. www.maegenwellsguitars.com On 12/20/2016 9:38 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Just

Re: Pirelli goes natural

2016-12-21 Thread Mark Stringer
I say lets vote on it. Like or dislike but each vote must be accompanied by the voter's age. I like it...66 On 12/21/2016 1:28 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: Couldn’t disagree more. m On Dec 20, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Sorry but the new calendar just doesn't

Re: OSX and externals

2016-12-21 Thread David J Brooks
thanks all, refomatted Dave On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Philip Northeast wrote: > I always reformat, why add complications? > > Philip Northeast > > www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au > > > On 21/12/16 4:23 pm, David Mann wrote: >> >> Yep, I'd also say to reformat.

Re: E-mail problems again

2016-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Malcolm! Look forward to more contacts on the other side. Best! J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > For some reason, most of my outgoing e-mail seems to be either delayed or > simply not going out at all, today

E-mail problems again

2016-12-21 Thread Malcolm Smith
For some reason, most of my outgoing e-mail seems to be either delayed or simply not going out at all, today seems a better day. We have family over until the new year, and so I'll wish you all the best for the holidays and the new year now, and have a go at sorting this problem out early next