PESO -- Spring Idle

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I shot this damn, now that I look at it, about 5 years ago give or take a season, and experimented with a bunch of different crops. Never got around to posting it. It really needs to be framed tighter for the internet or printed bigger, also I managed to have a tree growing out of the young

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Dramatic shapes and colors! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of > weeks ago > >

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread Marco Alpert
How apropos. m > On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of > weeks ago > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/i-PV5tG7C/XL > > Hand-held , not cropped

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
A dark mood to be sure. Well done. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 11:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of > weeks ago > >

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks, Philip.. ann On 1/25/2017 11:43 PM, Philip Northeast wrote: Nice silhouette, definitely looks evil Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 26/1/17 3:31 pm, ann sanfedele wrote: taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of weeks ago

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread Philip Northeast
Nice silhouette, definitely looks evil Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 26/1/17 3:31 pm, ann sanfedele wrote: taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of weeks ago https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/i-PV5tG7C/XL

Re: DP review learned it's lesson on the K-3, the KP first look is already up.

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Thanks for the offer but I cannot afford either at the moment. I'm just happy I have the one I've got. On 1/25/2017 9:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have a nice K5 with battery grip to sell. And it's possible I could be persuaded to part with my K3. I have the grip for that camera as well.

Peso : The Evil Sky

2017-01-25 Thread ann sanfedele
taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of weeks ago https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/i-PV5tG7C/XL Hand-held , not cropped .. K-5, DA18-55 ISO 800 ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
So it's not a screen on the back of the camera? Then I'm okay with it. You have my permission to proceed. :-). I'm clueless when it comes to mirrorless. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I won't like

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from >ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is gone. It's called "EVF" or electronic viewfinder. Smaller than a pentaprism. >Paul via phone > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Mark

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
To that add the problem of no diopter correction. Right? I've never used mirrorless, but I assume it's approximately the same as live view?? Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is gone. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Perhaps Ricoh is looking to

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >Perhaps Ricoh is looking to condense its APS-C DSLRs to one capable body >and concentrate seriously on FF for DSLR and mirrorless for APS-C. Just >a thought... APS-C becoming strictly mirrorless is how I see the future. At least the near future. Full-frame will become

Re: PESO: Carlton Beach

2017-01-25 Thread Philip Northeast
Brian There is a sand dune to the right cutting off the full view of the beach, so I was mainly trying to minimise that obstruction. But next time I go there I will try climbing to the top of the dune for a different angle. Carlton Beach is on the Eastern side of the moth of the Derwent

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sounds like APS-C is going to be strictly an enthusiast line for Pentax. That would make sense. Or perhaps there's more to come. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > From my experience, the K-3 is an excellent studio camera. The KP >

Re: DP review learned it's lesson on the K-3, the KP first look is already up.

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a nice K5 with battery grip to sell. And it's possible I could be persuaded to part with my K3. I have the grip for that camera as well. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >

DP review learned it's lesson on the K-3, the KP first look is already up.

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
https://www.dpreview.com/products/pentax/slrs/pentax_kp They say it's the successor to the K-3 line. The user interface that began with the K-7 is now completely replaced. Long live the new user interface*... Looks like I'll have to be satisfied with used K-5/K-3 cameras for a long time.

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Bruce Walker
>From my experience, the K-3 is an excellent studio camera. The KP doesn't even have X mode on the dial, and they left off the X-sync socket. It only accepts a single HDXC card. Missing lots of handy controls off the back. No top info LCD. But it has a dial position for HDR. Retch. Why not one

Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

PESO - Alfama Garden

2017-01-25 Thread Rick Womer
There's no flat ground, and very little space, so... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336402 (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Bottom line thought about the new KP

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Everything is a trade off in photography. I can see some of the reasons for the things that were traded off, but I think the they're headed in the wrong direction for a DSLR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
>...work with just one lens, to make it easier to concentrate on framing and composition. Don't see how that would work in outdoor/nature photography. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Eric Weir"

Re: PESO -- Salt marsh with open water. Now in formerly Living Color.

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Well true but I bet I could take the tiff file from the second version and create an improved B as well. On 1/25/2017 7:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I like that =a lot= more. The winter-ness of it is much enhanced, and the variation in color in the grasses is much greater than the variation in

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Well they've "upgraded" the hardware of the user interface but downgraded a lot of the actual mechanical specifications of the camera itself. Except for the high ISO limit everything else seems to be equal or less than the K-3. On 1/25/2017 7:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm sure the

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
That might make sense if there was any evidence at all that Ricoh has any interest at all in building an advanced mirrorless camera line. They had the basis for one and decided do quietly drop it, (and I don't mean either Pentax product). What this reminds me of more than anything is the

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > I crop often. Sometimes radically. To focus more clearly on what interests me > in the image. Am I a terrible photographer? Don’t know where to start in responding to the responses. So many. So interesing. So helpful.

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sure the photo came from Pentax marketing. Adorama didn't choose the lens. Why is it a disappointing replacement for the K3? It seems to be a step up in high ISO capability, and I won't be surprised if the autofocus is excellent. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:00 PM, P. J. Alling

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Two things I can think of. Either that camera is using a new cotton > sensor, or you are guilty of pushing fake news on us. You were never > there at all, but instead posed some of your friends holding signs in >

Re: PESO -- Salt marsh with open water. Now in formerly Living Color.

2017-01-25 Thread Rick Womer
I like that =a lot= more. The winter-ness of it is much enhanced, and the variation in color in the grasses is much greater than the variation in greys was. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It was a

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread Rick Womer
Eric, here's a concrete answer from my concrete little brain: If you're in Program mode, the exposure compensation adjustment (the +/- button + the rear dial on the K-5) moves the exposure the desired number of stops up or down the program line; i.e. generally adjusts both shutter and aperture

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather > sealed lens... > > The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit > disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it >

Re: PESO: Carlton Beach

2017-01-25 Thread Brian Walters
Peaceful looking spot. I would have liked to have seen the full sweep of the beach rather than being cut off on the right. Other than that - very nice, especially with the dog walkers to give scale. Where is Carlton Beach? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters

Re: PESO: Carlton Beach

2017-01-25 Thread Rick Womer
I really like the colors and the sweeping lines of the composition. The people are =really= tiny, though. They'd add a lot to the photo with some cropping from the top and left. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Charles Robinson

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather sealed lens... The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it probably was... On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread ann sanfedele
I see the bands you speak of, Charles... I'm sticking with my original pick as the one I might chose for an article because it shows the numbers of people and doesn't have too much sky in it.. I think it is well balanced photographically, shows the peacefulness of the march and none of the

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it >> more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg > >

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t_source=slgt_medium=email_term=Sale_content=Body_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone Followed just minutes later by B

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread ann sanfedele
oy Cotty, I love you ann On 1/25/2017 11:33 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/1/17, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: I read Stan's comment as a bit of a toungue in cheek Surely shome mishtake ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t_source=slgt_medium=email_term=Sale_content=Body_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone I watched the intro video & have a question

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t_source=slgt_medium=email_term=Sale_content=Body_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA PF on KP

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:17 PM, John wrote: > > I went through all the other images trying to recreate the conditions > under which I could see it, and if it *is* in any of the others, I > couldn't make it visible on my monitor. I just went through and compared what I

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > "What's seen cannot be unseen". An article in todays WaPo reporting a survey in which people were shown images of Obama’s and Trump’s inaugurations. It seems, not surprisingly, that what some

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know > what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that aren't pure > white, of several of the images. I see it in several.

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > At very high, (for the K20D at least), ISOs the K20D "grain" pattern takes > on a linear look across the sensor. Not that kind of pattern banding but > still it's noticeable it you look for it. I used to hide

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Gonz wrote: > > Are you using an *istD? I had that problem when it got older... They > were horizontal lines however. Was this pic in portrait orientation? Not a *istD. A Fuji compact—XQ1. The image was in portrait orientation, but

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Its acid rain from global warming... On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 25 Jan 2017, at 22:50, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> >>> I hit it with

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
> On 25 Jan 2017, at 22:50, Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it >> more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg > >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > I'll wager the lines line up with his sensor and that the image > as we see it is rotated somewhat from the original capture. The image was cropped—drastically. And rotated to the right.

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Now its back... wtf? On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Gonz wrote: > "We're sorry; the page you requested can't be located" > > Like they took it down... > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Adorama is offering it for $1099.

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
"We're sorry; the page you requested can't be located" Like they took it down... On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it > more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg Thanks. Weird. Looks like fabric. I’ll be interested in explanatory speculations.

KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t_source=slgt_medium=email_term=Sale_content=Body_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
I went through all the other images trying to recreate the conditions under which I could see it, and if it *is* in any of the others, I couldn't make it visible on my monitor. On 1/25/2017 4:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it pointed out to me—how do you explain it? I hit it with a dramatic Curves

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 3:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 25 Jan 2017, at 18:00, John wrote: On 1/24/2017 4:18 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I think young Bozza is right here, echoing Capa - "if your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough". OTOH, I knew a guy who liked to

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
Welcome to my world. "What's seen cannot be unseen". Sorry, P.J.! On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know > what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that aren't pure white, of several of the images. On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
At very high, (for the K20D at least), ISOs the K20D "grain" pattern takes on a linear look across the sensor. Not that kind of pattern banding but still it's noticeable it you look for it. I used to hide it by imposing an actual film grain pattern over it in Photoshop. It could be a

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Are you using an *istD? I had that problem when it got older... They were horizontal lines however. Was this pic in portrait orientation? On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Gonz wrote: > Yup, I see em. > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Charles Robinson >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, now that I know what to look for I see it too. Thanks for ruining it for me. On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have

Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

2017-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Same with the Leica SL ... There is even a configuration option to disable the top-left control button (that you might tap with your nose at eye level with the EVF enabled) to prevent accidentally enabling the menu system. :-) G > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Charles Robinson >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Yup, I see em. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... > does anyone else see a series of parallel, almost-straight-up-and-down > banding/lines through the sky on this

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
That's it. I'll wager the lines line up with his sensor and that the image as we see it is rotated somewhat from the original capture. But what would cause those lines, I have no idea. My 2MP Olympus 2040Z would do that with extended exposures (over 2 seconds) but that was a million years ago,

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Weir wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> I can see it > >Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it >pointed out to me—how do you explain it? I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it

Re: Thank you Mr Brewer.

2017-01-25 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Hey, Anthony, Great to see you back! "It's so nice to have you back where you belong!" I hope all more serious issues (health) are back to norm too. You may or may not have noticed, - there was a recent thread in which you were implicitly mentioned (in the linked photos). Just in case you

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Bob. > On Jan 25, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > That's a great shot > > B > >> On 25 Jan 2017, at 17:04, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >> OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the “disgustingly >> large GESO.” With

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it pointed out to me—how do you explain it? --

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
> On 25 Jan 2017, at 18:00, John wrote: > >> On 1/24/2017 4:18 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> I think young Bozza is right here, echoing Capa - "if your pictures >> aren't good enough, you aren't close enough". > > OTOH, I knew a guy who liked to use macro lenses to

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
I can see it > On 25 Jan 2017, at 19:17, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > You made me doubt myself, so I checked on my iPhone (using Chrome and > Safari) and it's still there for me. > >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Overall I think there is no single picture which grabs me by the neck - > I think there are probably 3 or 4 which will tell the story as a small group. > > So now your task, should you decide to accept it Mr Phelps,

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's a great shot B > On 25 Jan 2017, at 17:04, Eric Weir wrote: > > > OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the “disgustingly > large GESO.” With trepidation because it is still disgustingly large, though > hopefully not so disgustingly large as

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
Interesting. On my display I don't see them until I go into "lightbox" and hover the mouse pointer over the top edge of the photo, creating a kind of dark gradient. Then they appear almost like a banner, because when I hover the mouse pointer there, Eric's profile image gets brighter. The

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I've got a pretty crappy monitor at this point, since the serious illness of my NEC CRT, (damn I miss the color depth and resolution), and I don't see any banding, if it were there I'm pretty sure that Dell I'm using would accentuate it. On 1/25/2017 1:53 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I think

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Larry Colen
Charles Robinson wrote: I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... does anyone else see a series of parallel, almost-straight-up-and-down banding/lines through the sky on this image? https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/32348360731 Yes, I do, it's most

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
You made me doubt myself, so I checked on my iPhone (using Chrome and Safari) and it's still there for me. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Nope. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From:

Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I can't remember which new camera actually turns off half the rear screen so that you can use the other half to control focus points. I don't know if which half is configurable, but even if it's always the left half that's turned off, then for the right eyed that's really slick. I think it's

Re: Exposure compensation: don't optimize for the wrong thing

2017-01-25 Thread Larry Colen
Ken Waller wrote: I've found on my K-3, K20d and K10, in some cases, the individual channels - R, G, B need to be reviewed separately on the in camera histogram to prevent blow out of details in that specific channel, especially R. Exactly. I learned that early on when photographing

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/24/2017 6:24 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I see it as a habit from the days of 35mm film, which was really meaningful in digital before the explosion of megapixels. 35mm was a rather low fidelity imaging source. If you wanted a reasonable sized print, with good detail, using a reasonably fast

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/24/2017 7:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Rhetoric. "Hacking away at something in the hope of finding a decent picture" vs. judiciously working to perfect the photo in post. Adams is said to have done his best work in the darkroom, whereas HCB turned over his film to someone else. All

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
Nope. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Charles Robinson" Subject: Re: Disgustingly large GESO I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... does anyone else see a

Re: PESO: Carlton Beach

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
Looks very pleasant. Tons nicer than here in the US Midwest right now! On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Philip Northeast wrote: > Summer's day at Carlton Beach > > https://flic.kr/p/RwW8Ca > > Pentax K1 & Sigma 35mm f1.4mm art lens > > -- > Philip Northeast > >

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
I knew a guy who liked to use macro lenses to photograph poisonous snakes. Haven't seen him around in a while. Sounds like he was asping for trouble. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" Subject:

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... does anyone else see a series of parallel, almost-straight-up-and-down banding/lines through the sky on this image? https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/32348360731 Looks almost like watermarking, but not really. On Wed,

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Didn't I say that, possibly poorly? On 1/25/2017 12:48 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Actually EV compensation affects manual mode by changing how the meter reads out. So putting settings that "match the needle" in will reflect your compensation amount. Also the green button will reset to the program

Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
Olympus OM-D can be set to automatically toggle between the rear screen and the EVF when the eyepiece is close to your face. It's pretty slick. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:27 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Unless the camera is smart enough to turn the touch screen off

Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

2017-01-25 Thread Igor PDML-StR
This is an interesting comparison, but it is a bit narrow-focused: it looks only at the specs, but does not involve the performance. It also makes some mistakes in the analysis of the specs. The first question that pops in my mind after reading this comparison: has anybody who suggests that

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Alan C
You made my day! He obviously didn't believe in cropping! Alan C -Original Message- From: John Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Cropping On 1/24/2017 4:18 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I think young Bozza is right here, echoing Capa - "if

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Alan C
Igor & Larry, your summaries are spot on. I think most of us went through those phases. I used to make composite B/W prints too (cut & paste!). Perhaps panos can be described as reverse cropping? Zooms & post-processing now virtually give free licence as long as you have enough pixels to begin

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Thank you, Old Bozza. I should add that in the past one could probably say that I was obsessed with not cropping to a certain extent. If Eric wants to crop less, he can do either what you suggest and read some serious texts on the matter, or he can simply practice something like nifty-fifty for a

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
I've found on my K-3, K20d and K10, in some cases, the individual channels - R, G, B need to be reviewed separately on the in camera histogram to prevent blow out of details in that specific channel, especially R. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/24/2017 4:18 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I think young Bozza is right here, echoing Capa - "if your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough". OTOH, I knew a guy who liked to use macro lenses to photograph poisonous snakes. Haven't seen him around in a while. -- Science -

Re: interesting comparison someone sent me

2017-01-25 Thread John
For me it's a legacy of my days running a mini-lab & trying to keep the order kiosk screens clean. I never felt I needed to use protective gloves when handling prints in the darkroom, but I damn sure did whenever I went to clean the kiosk screens. And NOT from the glass cleaner I had to use

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
On Pentax cameras, at least, the histogram is being generated from the embedded, or generated, in the case of live view, jpeg. So you can afford and might even want some clipping of highlights if you're shooting raw. How much would depend on the jpeg camera settings since those directly

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread Zos Xavius
Actually EV compensation affects manual mode by changing how the meter reads out. So putting settings that "match the needle" in will reflect your compensation amount. Also the green button will reset to the program line with compensation if it is engaged. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Steve

Re: PESO -- Salt marsh with open water.

2017-01-25 Thread John
It's also known as a tidal marsh; regularly flooded at high tide - the grasses are salt tolerant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_marsh On 1/17/2017 11:31 PM, Alan C wrote: Nice composition PJ. It can't be too salty with that amount of grass. I have that lens - perhaps it needs an outing? I

Re: Exposure compensation

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/24/2017 3:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Also, there are different exposure methodologies. [...] If you're shooting raw, then you generally want to "expose to the right", in order to preserve the

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the >"disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still >disgustingly large, though hopefully not so disgustingly large as the >first one. I beg forgiveness of my teachers who

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Hard to pick a favorite, but if forced it might be this one > . > Perhaps for nontechnical reasons, but then technique is not all

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
He never makes mistakes and don't call him Shirley. On 1/25/2017 11:33 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/1/17, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: I read Stan's comment as a bit of a toungue in cheek Surely shome mishtake ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Cropping

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
Igor, I'm pretty much in the same boat - I almost exclusively shot shot slides for enjoyment (and print film for work) and didn't have the luxury of cropping except when making prints. I totally agree with your comment - "trying to make the final framing while you are shooting encourages a

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