The only real reason for using a monopod for action shots is to hold the camera and a
long heavy lens up so your arms don't get tired. I like longer, fast lenses shot at
wide apertures for shallow DOF (85/1.8 and 180/2.8). By shooting in the f2.8 - 4 range
you can use 100 speed film in bright
Out patient
-Original Message-
From: Pentax Guy [mailto:pentax.guy;rogers.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: What we call ourselves.
Now that's just going way too far. Silly. ;-)
I'll add another stupid one I like --
Is that why everyone in my family has told me that UPS drivers now wear white coats?
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net]
Committed.
Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote:
Out patient
Reason enough to switch brands.
-Original Message-
From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:angelart;telkomsa.net]
- Original Message -
From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: OT: What we call ourselves.
Just got off the phone. Don't worry, there's a Pentax guy there weaving a DSLR.
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net]
Bruce, call your hospital, ask if there is anyone in your room, if
there's not, you've escaped.
Being the US distributor of Pentax cameras is a little like running a pizza parlor in
Dacia in 200AD: you don't know what's going on back in the capital.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559;directvinternet.com]
I can see that. Is there any indication that Pentax
This is also my understanding of Win 9x RAM usage. If one could generate a 550mb scan
file, I'm not sure why they would do it. To get the entire file into RAM, along with
the rest OS and app, would take GB's of RAM and still run very slow. If you want to
see the best that it can do on a 4x5,
From the SOYO support site
(http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:xbI5pX5sZ_8C:www.soyousa.com/support/index.php%3Fanswer_id%3D97+512mb+limit+in+windows+98hl=enie=UTF-8):
Win98/98SE/ME can't handle more than 512 megs of memory
It transpires that Win ME, Win98 and Win95 cannot deal with main
No, NO, No! He wants the latest, greatest, most awesome camera made, dude. Canon guy
if I ever saw one.
Personally, I think he needs a trip to the Bada-Bing Lounge.
BR
Just east of New Jersey
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Hood [mailto:hood1616;shaw.ca]
Go be with the pros; buy a
This is going to be what I got, with a between the lines reading of what was said,
because there was a bit less of what was said, but how it was said. Know what I mean?
There are people US Pentax employees who follow the list to some degree. (The limit is
probably the realization that they are
The booth list must have had some problem. HP was there back in a corner. I only took
a quick stroll through their area, since they mostly have low end consumer digital
products.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:HerbChong;compuserve.com]
according to the Expo booth list,
Except for some blabber-mouth employee who can't resist posting on some Pentax list on
the net (obviously not this one).
BR
-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:thomas;bigdayphoto.com]
Pentax USA is a seperate entity from Pentax Japan. Japan gets feedback
from all the foreign
Let's add the USA while we're at it. When it comes to folks, that actually buy new
equipment that isn't run of the mill entry level stuff, Pentax isn't worth the trouble
to customers. What is worse is that these folks aren't worth the trouble to Pentax.
BR
-Original Message-
From:
Yes, I get very good 11x17 prints from scans done with a HP S20, which isn't nearly as
good as the new Minolta appears to be.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com]
It get excellent reviews and they claim it is better than
anything available for
10 ft.
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Pentax
Subject: Favorite Poll
I'd just like to take a poll to see what your favorite poll is...
Norm
In NA Pentax is 4th among the big 3.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com]
I knew Pentax wasn't top dog, but I thought number 4 out of the big four
wasn't so bad. Is Pentax on the way out, or is the sales guy just a
yo-yo?
When it comes to a common chassis for film and digital, I there's less here than meets
the eye. Some of the major camera structures are going to be very different between
the two types of cameras. There's no film transport mechanism or film plane in a
digital camera, but lots more electronics.
Yes. Ralf Englemann was an active member of the group several years ago, and then
started hiw own on Yahoo. There are a number of people here who are on both groups. He
would seem to just be letting people here know what's going on there.
BR
-Original Message-
From: arkibladt
If you stick to brand name flashes, made in the last 15 years there should be no
trouble.
-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com]
I have a stupid question. :-) Ever since beginning photography, flash has
been the most troublesome tool. However, what I'd like
All that I've seen so far are just controlled press leaks, and not full fledged Pentax
Japan press releases/product announcements. It just looks like an attempt to hold onto
customers until there is an official announcement next Feb. Right now it's all
speculation as to what the particulars of
I can't. I just spit up my tonsils laughing.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Peter Jansen [mailto:mrpentax2002;yahoo.com]
Everyone Sing Along!
Peter.
Now, if we all assume that Paal is right, and no one makes money selling DSLRs, does
that mean Pentax will go broke with a sales smash? Maybe they should put a few bugs in
just to be safe.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:audiob;ozemail.com.au]
Yes it is practically
You have all the right in the world to exist, but you don't because you are just
anonymous bits.
For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up production,
and not the materials.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:DesJardinS;wlu.edu]
Please
They don't need any fancy bugs, since Pentax service doesn't exist in North America.
BR
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca]
Well, they can put in sticky mirror from the LX, and dying frame
counter from the ME/Super Program, and rusting ISO resistor from
With their tag line they hardly need a song No I won't bother repeating it.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Rfsindg;aol.com]
...and by the way, does Nikon have a song? How about that Bruce!
Regards, Bob S.
Another Canon shooter trying to confuse things...
All AF lenses are compatible with the N50.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s;hotmail.com]
The AF 50mm f/1.8 is a very good lens. I'm not familiar with
the N50, so
I'd recommend that you check carefully to
You have to look at the film to really see what is going on. I find it easier to
examine slides than negatives. I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film
is fine. Just make sure you use a tripod and good technique. The most difference
between the lenses will be at wide apertures.
Any Nikon AF 50mm lens ever made will work properly on a N50.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s;hotmail.com]
And your point is?
Len
---
I did that in my very first post on the subject. You followed that post with a post
that suggested the possibility of there being incompatibilities. I don't know if this
was done with the desire to wave a red herring around, or simple ignorance.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Leonard
This is why I said slide film. You used print film, and it sounds like you looked at
prints, which can lead to all sorts of problems. The point of using slide film is to
look at the film itself, and I find that easier with slides. The biggest problem is
getting viewing the film with high enough
The Sunpack site (www.tocad.com) doesn't have the specs for the flash's coverage. I
doubt that it goes wider than 28mm, if it even goes that far. I would suggest using
Stofen Omnibounce to spread the light around.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:gldnbearz2;yahoo.com]
Hey gang-
Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs:
Vs: Re[3]:
Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff)
I said I was guilty and promised to stop. What more do you
want me to do?
Unsubscribe?
Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote:
Sorry, Dan, but it is a Pentax list, and not an interesting
Original picture, not subject.You have to remember that the most
important thing is to have the person who took the picture say, "it looked like
that".
BR
-Original Message-From: Otis Wright, Jr.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Snip
And would someone like to define "original"?
I think that it is a pretty good tele-extender, although I never compared it to an
expensive 7 element one. It one of the better ways to get an 85mm AF portrait lens
(with a 50mm). The elements move to provide the AF capability, so it only works over a
particular distance range that varies with
It will work the same way: as a tele-extender with a limited AF distance range. (I
don't think that the AF drive shaft passes through the adapter.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org]
Does it work with F/FA lenses or only with manual focus lenses?
The pie was related to Photokina; too late for that now. Before every big show, or
Pentax anniversary, Paal implies (or states explicitly) that Pentax will make some big
announcement. This makes him right about 10% of the time. I'm still waiting for
something more substantial than rumor.
BR
The digest isn't working for me either.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Francis Alviar [mailto:alviar629030;yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:25 PM
To: Pentax Discuss List
Subject: is the list broken again?
Have not been getting any digests since yesterday pm.
Just
If they bulked up the MZ-S it would be in the EOS3/F100 class. It's less than half
the weight of the F5. I don't think any Pentax user would want anything bigger/heavier
than a EOS3/F100, which are also somewhat bigger/heavier than a PZ-1.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Steve Desjardins
Pentax has 40% of the MF market in Japan according to intelligible translations.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:angelart;telkomsa.net]
... does these figures indicate the
companies market
share ie 40% of all MF sales are Pentax or is it that 40% of
all products
Pro features, yes? 45oz body weight? I don't think so (even I didn't). There is just
so much designers can do in terms of size/weight/cost/features/performance. It's not
like other maker's cameras are made from cast iron.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Steve Desjardins
There's always Ralf Englemann's list at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentaxxstarforum/
-Original Message-
From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Or do you think we should split the list ? Add pentax-flames list ?
Make an entirely new (moderated) list for those who
Just try staying on your meds.
-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
My personal goal is to be .
Another poster child for why Pentax uses should always be wearing their aluminum foil
hats.
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Hi Group, my name is Norm, I'm here because I have little
voices in my
head, they tell me things about digital
He's beginning to roll the steel balls in his hand again. Maybe he's just had too much
strawberry ice cream.
-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
snip
The T-80 was a Canon. Pre EOS AF. Interesting thing about Canon and Nikon is that they
are proud enough of their products to have Museum/History areas on their Japanese
web sites (translated into English). It's interesting to read about what they though
of their competitors, what they
The FA 100/3.5 it is! I don't have any true macro lenses, and it can't feel any worse
than a Nikon AF50/1.8.
BR
-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: dslr
Nope, just AF500FTZ's.
Do you think Pentax will really outsource the whole body just to get into the market?
I don't know about this. Pentax would have done better using the Foveon chip from the
beginning. That chip has a lot of sizzle to it judging by the threads on Photo Pro
Digital.
BR
-Original
Open the camera back in full sunlight to pre fog it.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:56 PM
To: PDML
Subject: Digital Darkroom Question
How do I keep the monitor from fogging my film?
Norm
Yes, but the larger aperture of the 1.4 makes it a better magnifying glass, emergency
cigarette lighter.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:56 PM
To: PDML
Subject: 50mm 1.4 v. 1.7
I say my 50/1.4 is just as
Does the D100 have a control for contrast? Some digitals do. If it does, it would make
it less necessary to tweak things later.
BR
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
He agreed, but said that he had hoped that
taking digital images would basically
From elsewhere,
BTW, the chip for the Kodak DCS 14n is made by Fillfactory, the same company
which makes the CMOS for Leaf's C-MOST back. You can learn about this
company's chip technology at their web site:
http://www.fillfactory.com/index2.htm
Kodak has a 24 X 36 CCD chip of their own, but
DSLRs have been around for years. It is naive to think that DSLRs are in their first
generation. Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've
sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Pentax has passed
on high end digital.
BR
Like these?
http://www.nikonmall.com/category.asp?search_id=4
I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't
release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera.
Nikon has several different ones now:
http://www.nikonschool.com/
BR
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Nikon also used to put on a travelling road show called the
Nikon School (I don't know if the program is dropped, or if
Regina just doesn.t get it
Was his name Pal Jensen by any chance?
BR
-Original Message-
From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Seeing as how the list was down all last weekend; and I got a
chance to talk
to a Pentax Rep (yes they DO exist) at the local Henry's Sales/Show
Extravaganza out here
Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows,
or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave
oven a virus.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
What about when you take
How do you know it was a virus? Cell phones are designed to be programmable, because
they have to be configured for a particular user and service provider. There are
programs, and supporting hardware, designed to clone phones in case the old one is
damaged, or just to upgrade. Also, anyone who
It's
because Pentax can't make any money selling a DSLR. The amount of costthat
would need to be amortized over the relatively short product life of a DSLR, and
the small number of units that Pentax can sell would make the cost of the camera
very high.There will be fewer manufacturers of
Now, as most of you know, I put quotes related to I heard it from a rep... in the
same category as fortunes in fortune cookies, but people seem to be big fans of them
anyway. So, I got this from the Nikon list (which can take a lickin' but keep on
tickin' - sorry Doug):
FYI, I went to a talk
Nikon had a few things, like the 70-200 VR/AF-S finally going on sale and a few PS
digis. Nikon did release a new DSLR this year at PMA. It seems to be a combination of
Nikon being more interested in PMA (they sell more in NA) and them announcing new
products when they have them. In many ways
Sorry. I guess I forgot to mention that you also have to chant, Only from the minds
of Minolta as you consume a fifth of rum.
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I still don't seem 'em!
You LIED to me Bruce, and now I'm going to cry.
Just freeze the one you folks already have. Call it the Pentax Pie, and then trot out
the same thing show after show.
BR
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well Bruce, I think we will have to prepare another pie for you and wait
until next year's PMA ;-)
If you can't buy it, it isn't a product. The next thing you'll be telling us is that
Pentax made the DSLR, makes more DSLRs than any one else and is the market leader.
Until I can buy one in BH, it's as much a product as a cruise trip to Pluto is.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL
And entertainment was provided by Elvis, who jumped out of the safe.
Oh yes, they are also digital selling bridges.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
I have no idea about the contents of this safe is but it's
It's easy, you just tell us where you've seen Elvis, Judge Crater or DB Cooper field
testing a Pentax DSLR, and I get hit in the face with a pie.
Welcome aboard.
BR
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry about this, I have just subscribed and I'm trying to figure out how it all works.
Handmaid
Roland used to take part in this forum, and was always a big Pentax flag waver. For
people living near the Artic Circle, Pentax releasing new products is an article of
faith; like the sun will come back.
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
Roland Mabo - on Photozone.de
No, No, you're nowhere near the edge of the cliff, plenty of room behind you, step
back!
From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Get a 500/4 IS and stand a couple feet further back...
I was missing loads of shots the same way you were. This resulted in my wanting to get
a body with better AF. The fact that Pentax didn't look like it was ever going to come
out with world class AF (which it still hasn't) was one of the major factors for
deciding to switch brands. I can't
Sorry, more confusion. This forum is for the discussion of Pentax non-products. If it
was about actual products there would be only 3 posts a week.
BR
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I thought that this forum was for the discussion of Pentax products and the
various aspects of
Look, I didn't start with the foul language, making jokes about the Pope or the
Royals. If I've incited the kiddies to bedlam, I promise not to address members of the
peanut gallery anymore.
BR
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this has gone too far now!
Which Nikon body do you own, or have had the long term use of? Or is this just another
of Pal's I'll make up anything to defend Pentax.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nikon is no better than Pentax except being quiter.
You don't know, you don't care. You just make crap up to suit your needs.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't bother to search it up even if I may still have it (somewhere) in my in-box.
Cite a reference, with more validity than everybody knows or told to me by a local
Pentax rep, that has unit sales of SLRs.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentax is on par with Minolta
I have to keep this in mind for Halloween and my 9 year old needs a costume.
From: a recent post
Everyone thought I looked like a real pro when I taped
a reflector board to my flash!
Better than that it's only once every 2 years. Of course, that does mean that in 2
years the speculation will be if Pentax shows up at all.
From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Relax, Photokina is only once an year .
And this helps a SLR shooter how? Who cares how well a company does if it doesn't sell
what you want to buy?
Wanna see the pop up flash of my PS Hasselblad?
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
theres no way a company will loose out for missing the slr boat. 99% (or
No they don't. There is nothing on their web site, and I've spoken to Pentax reps
here. It is an official, documented program of Canon and Nikon. There is no support
for pros using 35mm Pentax gear in NA: No special programs by the distributors, no
places to rent gear and almost no full line
Why not include disposable camera makers too while you're at it?
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who's talking about SLR's?
Only if you like shooting wide open: no aperture ring.
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can any of the G lenses be used on the FM3A?
It *is* a neat camera.
I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax would
sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have, and will, find other solutions.
I don't expect any major, or long term, effect on the Pentax used equipment market.
BR
From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL
No pepper was ever made famous by having Ansel Adams take its picture.
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams
I think you left out the bit where they mumble, when the time is right. This is a
code phrase for, three weeks after pigs fly.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People seriously thought so because Pentax have officially stated that they intend to
manufacture K-mount
If they think that they can sell enough, then it is worth it. For Pentax (I haven't
bought anything new in 20 years!) why bother. Right now IS and HSM are in the realm
of rumor for Pentax: a patent is not a product announcement. Minolta announced 3
lenses quite some time ago with their version
Care to make a little wager? I bet Pentax doesn't show any DSLR that goes on sale this
year.
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whether we get a D-SLR soon or not, only time will tell. We can still
hope. Without hope the world would be a poorer place. You try to
destroy our hope with no
Don't worry, your investment is secure. Pentax comes out with way more patents than
products. A big announcement from Pentax might be that they will begin selling black
Limited Edition lenses in the US.
From: Brad Dodo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Had I known (if our speculations are correct :))
A good, general, imaging news site is here: http://www.photointer.com
Make sure you look at statistics here:
http://www.photointer.com/pageset/Statistics1.html
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In anticipation of Photokina, where would listers recommend to keep an
eye on? Are there any decent news
The concept of forwards and backwards compatibility is only intelligible if everyone
uses the terms in a similar manner. Backwards compatibility is generally understood to
mean being able to use new accessories (lenses, flashes, etc.) on old cameras.
Forwards compatibility is old accessories
Canon does (develops) their own sensors ; a company that size can. They may even do
their own fab. Nikon doesn't buy off the shelf parts. Kodak will probably come out
with a new DCS camera.
I would be amazed if Pentax came out with anything more sophisticated than a DZLR.
From: Rob Brigham
The K1000 was/is the student camera (in NA). If you spend any time at any of the other
photography sites/mailing lists, you will see and endless number of, I started with a
K1000, and really loved it, then moved on to brand xyz. I suspect that the US and
Canadian Pentax distributors tried to
You're becoming almost as much fun as Suda Myfoot.
From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I must ask what is your point.
What is missing from this thread are the reasons why folks left Pentax for other
brands (for rather other obvious reasons - they're not here). What it generally comes
down to is that people have made substantial investments in their system that are
satisfactory for what they are doing. So long
Volume.
Actually, Canon does make money selling cameras:
http://www.photointer.com/pageset/page16.html
Camera segment sales were ¥211,392 million, up 20.8%. Silver-based photographic
cameras are cited as continuing to decrease due to market tilt toward digital cameras
and low pricing of
Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same thing would
be true for a flagship Pentax. Pentax will never recover the RD costs, let alone
make a profit, on a hot snot film SLR. The whole film SLR market is shrinking due to
digital. It will go from single digit to
Maybe yes, maybe no. It doesn't matter. The operative term here was pro: one who earns
all or most of their income from photography.
From: Pieter Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ah, but don't those hobbyists get paid for those postcards?
-
This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To
Now features are a big deal. Toy batteries. Almost useless BIF. Low max Sync speed.
Another AF sensor, which is great because the AF sensor selector sucks. The F100 is a
performance body, not some cute, boutique toy.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But this is wrong.
Pentax may have shown the first Japanese SLR, but Nikon was selling them first.
This is in the same general vein of, if you want patents, prototypes and smoke go to
Pentax, if you want stuff you can buy, go somewhere else.
Just to avoid any confusion, Nikon had already established themselves
There's about 17 pro landscape photographers in the world (and they make their money
selling books to hobiests on how to be pro landscape/nature photographers). So, to a
first order approximation there is no such thing.
You can go off on whatever semantic tangents you'd like to, but in the
If it's big, black and has a big flash people think press/pro. Brand names mean
something to other photographers, but not most people (if they are even close enough
to read the name). If you really want to push the image, get a motor drive and a flash
bracket. People will be so impressed that
Enough already. The original question had nothing to do with why your life is
miserable with PC's, and everyone should buy a Mac. If you can contribute some first
hand, relevant information about what was asked, fine. If you want to rant and rave
about OS's, take it to an appropriate forum.
-
People can't see electrons so they equate it with magic pixie dust. No one in their
right mind trusts magic dust.
From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nope - electronics are more reliable. The current electronic consumer grade SLRs are
incredibly reliable - there was a test in Chasseurs
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