Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Steve Jolly" Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > It was in the 21st Feb issue of "Amateur Photographer" (UK), so I'm > afraid there isn't a link to give you. > > They printed MTF graphs for f

Re: Re[2]: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mike Ignatiev" Subject: Re[2]: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > From: Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sigma have already made a full-frame 12-24mm zoom - a 10mm prime sounds > > tricky but not imposs

Re[2]: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-18 Thread "Mike Ignatiev"
From: Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sigma have already made a full-frame 12-24mm zoom - a 10mm prime sounds > tricky but not impossible in my decidedly unexpert opinion :-) Have you used it? Neither have I. Mostly, because I haven't seen a single review, saying that it's any good at 12mm.

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-18 Thread Steve Jolly
William Robb wrote: Lets see, to get an angle of view that is more or less the same as the 15mm f/3.5 (the widest rectilinear that Pentax makes for 35mm), they would need to make a 10mm lens. I really have my doubts that this is feasable with the 45 or so mm flange to focal plane distance that the

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread Bill Owens
The upcoming 14mm will be f2.8, so I've heard. Bill - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:16 PM Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > > - Original Me

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > Which is why they are designing new lenses. New designs aren't likely to be able to go far enough. Lets see, to get an angle of view that is more or less the same as t

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread Herb Chong
which means that FF sensors have dropped enough in price that Pentax could swim. Herb - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: *ist-D and the wide angle len

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > You are very unhappy about the APS sensor size, and I sympathise with your > feelings on the subject. The problem with the APS sensor isn't the dimension of it, but th

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread Otis Wright
nnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread Otis Wright
essage- From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena I don't believe Pentax has the resources to support two different dSLR formats, and the fact that they are bringing out lens

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread John Forbes
You are very unhappy about the APS sensor size, and I sympathise with your feelings on the subject. However, I think you are letting your emotions blind you to the reality that Pentax is now committed to that size, and there is very little prospect of a change. If they really expected to be pr

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread John Francis
> > On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:54, John Forbes wrote: > > > That's true. But manufacturers have to take a bet on what they think the > > market will want, and plan accordingly. > > No one in their right mind could possibly have wanted a digital camera with a > less than full frame sensor which need

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:54, John Forbes wrote: > That's true. But manufacturers have to take a bet on what they think the > market will want, and plan accordingly. No one in their right mind could possibly have wanted a digital camera with a less than full frame sensor which needed new lenses for

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Mar 2004 at 10:32, Christian Skofteland wrote: > What is your time frame? How many years are you going to wait for Pentax to > catch up? Look, I'm happy that they finally released a camera that was > (mostly) the answer to what I was looking for. Is the *ist-D limited in > functionality?

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
I think that there is now at least some evidence that Pentax listens to this list and probably to others as well, Witness the 1.1 software upgrade, which made K/M lenses useful. If they do they will think twice about abandoning the aperture ring. Full frame sensors on dslrs? Well that depends

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
I seriously doubt we will see a $3000+ Pentax, especially one that goes after the 35 mm market. I think we'll see 24x36 sensors when the price drops below $2000. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 16.03.04 13:52, Paul Stenquist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Eventually I hope to supplement it with the new 14mm Pentax prime or, > better yet, the A 15/3.5. AFAIK (Dario's test images) A 15/3.5 is only "so-so" on *istD. Personally I would opt rather for DA 14/2.8. -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena > or, > better yet, the A 15/3.5. > It is still available new, although it is a bit pricey. William Robb

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the feedback Gianfranco. I too would expect it to be flare prone in some situations. It should be find for what I'll use it for. Eventually I hope to supplement it with the new 14mm Pentax prime or, better yet, the A 15/3.5. Paul On Mar 16, 2004, at 7:37 AM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had pretty much made up my mind to wait for the new 24mm lens and > skip the 16-45/4. And I'm still a likely purchaser of the 14. But just > an hour or two ago I ran across a Sigma 17-35 EX 2.8-4 on ebay with a > buy it now price of $229. That's half

Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Doh, that should have read "I had pretty much made up my mind to wait for the new 14mm lens. What a difference in angle of view a missed keystroke makes On Mar 15, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I had pretty much made up my mind to wait for the new 24mm lens and skip the 16-45/4. And

*ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had pretty much made up my mind to wait for the new 24mm lens and skip the 16-45/4. And I'm still a likely purchaser of the 14. But just an hour or two ago I ran across a Sigma 17-35 EX 2.8-4 on ebay with a buy it now price of $229. That's half of what B&H gets for it and about half of what I