Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/12/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, there's always the Pentax MX, various K-series cameras, the Leica ... Of course, these cameras don't have modes perhaps that's why they're so simple and intuitive. Actually Shel there is an 'automatic' mode with the MX that you

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Bruce, I trust your opinion. I handled a *ist DS the other day and wondered. The price was good, very enabling. If an 8 megapixel version of the *ist D was next, I'd probably be a buyer. The shutter lag on the Sony is killing me... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:45:32 -0800,

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Bob Sullivan wrote: If an 8 megapixel version of the *ist D was next, Why is megapixelage important? Do you print huge? Kostas

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
No huge printing here, but... 1) I figure 8 megapixels is the next generation after 6, and will be improved. 2) I've shot Kodachrome whenever I could for the past 25+ years. I'm spoiled by those nice 30x45 inch projected images. The 4 megapixel Sony prints snapshots OK on my Epson 870 Photo

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Dec 2004 at 12:41, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Bob Sullivan wrote: If an 8 megapixel version of the *ist D was next, Why is megapixelage important? Do you print huge? More megapixelage means a little more flexibility to crop and better quality large prints.

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bob, I think we have the same Sony model. There are a few things you can do to reduce shutter lag, which, I agree, can be a PITA on these PS cameras. You can put the camera into full manual mode, or aperture priority, pre-focus or use manual focus, and partially depress the shutter release

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Thibs
My KX did (and still does) the same to me =) even if my SuperA has been quite good in the very same way - Thibouille Cotty a écrit : On 2/12/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, there's always the Pentax MX, various K-series cameras, the Leica ... Of course,

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The MX is nice, but I've recently become enchanted with the K body cameras. A number of people have donated K-1000's and a couple of KM's to the 6th Street Workshop, so I had a chance to try a few. They were new experiences for me having gone directly from the Spotmatic series to the M's and LX.

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Shel, I've used the pre-focus tricks to reduce the shutter lag on the Sony S85. I've even used it for gymnastic meets and girls vaulting. You can make it work, but it's still a pain to do. I had a Sony S75 but passed it onto my son Bill. About the only thing different with the S85 is it is

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-03 Thread Peter J. Alling
It helps to be able to crop sometimes... Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Bob Sullivan wrote: If an 8 megapixel version of the *ist D was next, Why is megapixelage important? Do you print huge? Kostas -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you

Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi, The Ds has a great amount of interesting features but its simplicity (few wheels and buttons) can make the access to some of these features too complicated to be really usable. Being my current AF camera a MZ-5n, that has a dedicated and very convenient commandment to change between spot,

RE: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Andy Chang
go As I said, not the simplest, but since I use mostly Center Weighted mode, I just leave it there Andy -Original Message- From: Jaume Lahuerta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Changing metering modes in Ds? Hi

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Alin Flaider
Great news, Jaume, it takes 11 clicks through menus at worst, 3 at best (hopefully one can wrap scrolling through the recording menu). Pentax placed the metering mode as well as flash compensation at the bottom of the menu page; image tone and size are considered far more useful options

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
My feeling all along and after handling a DS in the store yesterday is that those who are happy with something less than the MZ-5n, will be happy with the DS. Basically people who are going to leave it on one of the program modes and not change much of anything very often. Those who like the

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Tim Sherburne
I don't have experience with those other models, but changing the metering mode on the MZ-S rocks. One knob right on the top. In fact, the placement of the knob makes it almost too easy: I've accidentally bumped it into another mode a couple of times. t On 12/2/04 11:14, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Patrick Genovese
I seriously doubt that there is anything that can hold a candle to the 5n when it comes to the sheer simplicity and intuitiveness of the user interface. I can simply place my hands on the top plate blindfolded and know: metering mode drive mode whether the shutter speed is set to A or

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My feeling all along and after handling a DS in the store yesterday is that those who are happy with something less than the MZ-5n, will be happy with the DS. Basically people who are going to leave it on one of the program modes and not change much of

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, there's always the Pentax MX, various K-series cameras, the Leica ... Of course, these cameras don't have modes perhaps that's why they're so simple and intuitive. Shel [Original Message] From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seriously doubt that there is anything that can

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Changing metering modes in Ds? Well, there's always the Pentax MX, various K-series cameras, the Leica ... Of course, these cameras don't have modes perhaps that's why they're so simple and intuitive. I always liked poor

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have had ZX-10's - it is more capable than those. Almost like a film *ist, except that the film *ist has most of the dedicated switches. Probably a ZX-7. Electronically it can do most things (metering modes, continuous AF, wireless flash, etc), but must use menus to select all those things

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Straight ahead for BW LOL I didn't realize these were modes. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Changing metering modes in Ds? Well, there's always the Pentax MX, various K-series cameras, the Leica ... Of course, these cameras don't have

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:19:54 -0800, Tim Sherburne wrote: I don't have experience with those other models, but changing the metering mode on the MZ-S rocks. One knob right on the top. In fact, the placement of the knob makes it almost too easy: I've accidentally bumped it into another mode a

Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?

2004-12-02 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have had ZX-10's - it is more capable than those. Almost like a film *ist, except that the film *ist has most of the dedicated switches. Probably a ZX-7. Electronically it can do most things (metering modes, continuous AF, wireless flash, etc),