Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jun 2001, at 19:47, Pål Jensen wrote: When designating equal lenses (MF and 35mm) I was thinking of overall performance. Eg the two lenses projects the same information content (total number of lines for instance) but on circles with different size. I think that this is where our

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-09 Thread Isaac Crawford
Pål Jensen wrote: Isaac wrote: It's easy, you can't change a lens' illumination angle. Coverage of a lens is defined by its illumination angle, not the size of the circle of illumination. If what you say above is true, I should be able to shoot 8x10 film with my SMC 50mm f1.4, and I

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Jun 2001, at 14:14, Pål Jensen wrote: But the point in this debate is that when using a MF lens on a 35mm camera you will actually decrease the resolution of the lens practically speaking. An MF lens will perform worse on a 35mm camera than on a MF camera. The resolution of the lens

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-06 Thread Isaac Crawford
Pål Jensen wrote: Isaac wrote: Except the fact that the camera/lens combo would be rather awkward because of the larger lenses, no autofocus and stop down metering, there would be no compromises... Seriously though, I can't see many pros putting up with those limitations on a really

RE: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-05 Thread Jostein Oksne
My dream as a 645 owner would be a digital film insert with the 6 Mpix chip. If using the same lenses, why change the tool? With the 6 Mpix chip it will give the same situation as the Nikon/Canon users have today, with a chip smaller than the film format. Except that it will be easier to

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-05 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: HUH? By that arguement, my 210mm NikkorW should only resolve about 8 LPPM. I know for a fact it resolves closer to 60 on the film. Format doesn't matter. Isn't 60 lines pr MM remarkably bad for a lens for the 35mm system? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-05 Thread Pål Jensen
Tom wrote: Resolving power is not spread over the image (lenses are essentially holographic devices). The medium format lens simply has a wider field of view. I don't get this. I'm no optical engineer but unconceivable to me how you can double cover area without doubling optical defects

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-04 Thread Pentax Clover
Hello it seems to be true, as far as the Phillips CCD is very slow to refresh itself, expensive regard to small size 6Meg. Well I hope MZ Digital will existe as soon as possible even with a smaller CCD, because it will mean that Pentax has to devellop a 17-35mm f/:2.8 zoom See you [EMAIL

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-04 Thread MZ3_fella _
From what I've gathered, the project has not stopped - just gone into shock at the realization of what the actual retail price might be. Ever since Photokina the figure $7,000 has been tossed around. As far as I can tell, Pentax has NEVER officially announced this price - it seems that it was

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: There is no truth in the statement the MF lenses have lower MTF values either, Whatever resolving power a MF lens has it has to be distributed over a larger area than a 35mm lens. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-04 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
??? Resolving power is not spread over the image (lenses are essentially holographic devices). The medium format lens simply has a wider field of view. Older MF lenses may not have been as highly corrected as 35 mm lenses, but in these days of CAD/CAM the resolving power of the lenses are

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???) Rob wrote: There is no truth in the statement the MF lenses have lower MTF values either, Whatever resolving power a MF lens has it has

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 4, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???) ??? Resolving power is not spread over the image (lenses are essentially holographic

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-03 Thread Todd Stanley
Hmmm... Didn't think of that. Good point. Todd At 04:33 PM 6/3/01 +1000, you wrote: What about all the pros with Pentax Medium format gear surely the 6M pixel body coupled with a lens adaptor would be of interest? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-03 Thread Hernán Mouro
I believe the main purpose of a digital slr at this state is to signalize that the K-mount will be taken over into the digital age and that customers can continue buying K-mount cameras and lenses knowing that their system will be compatible with up-to-date digital cameras. I just recently

Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)

2001-06-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jun 2001, at 0:31, Pål Jensen wrote: Todd wrote: It should perform quite well, as you are just using the center of the image produced by the lens, which is where most lenses perorm best. They still show visible light fall-off at the corners at wide apertures. Also, when used on

Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Pentax Clover
Hello One of my friend tells me that the Digital MZ shown at the PMA is no more devellop ! The projet is stopped, aborted... Does anybody know something about this ? See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
digital SLR. Say it aint so! Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=113369 - Original Message - From: Pentax Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Sounds like total bull to me Pål - Original Message - From: Pentax Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ??? Hello One of my friend tells me that the Digital MZ shown at the PMA

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Troll alert! --Tom Pentax Clover wrote: Hello One of my friend tells me that the Digital MZ shown at the PMA is no more devellop ! The projet is stopped, aborted... Does anybody know something about this ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Todd Stanley
I don't know if it's true or not, but it makes sense as I don't think there is a big enough market for a $7,000 K-mount camera to make it worthwhile. What Pentax needs to do is build the K1000 of digital SLRs - cheap, dependable, and simple. They'd probably sell truckloads of them. Todd At

Re: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???

2001-06-02 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Actually it is a $1000 digital camera, the 22mm x 34mm ccd is what you pay the other six grand for. I have said it here before, and say it again. The only camera on the market in that category right now is the Kodak DCS 460/560. They recently dropped the price to $15,, so how do you feel