On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:42 AM, William Robb wrote:
If this is the case, then it may well just be random chance that they were
chosen by the FBI to be made an example of, in which case no cloud storage
facility is safe, and this is just one more way to lose data.
That's pretty much my line of
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Tom C. caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Cloud storage is trusting someone else with your data. It may be a
convenient way of storing data, but it should never be the primary or
only backup. I wouldn't consider it as any form of long term backup
for two reasons,
From: Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Tom C. caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Cloud storage is trusting someone else with your data. It may be a
convenient way of storing data, but it should never be the primary or
only backup. I wouldn't consider it as any form of long term backup
for
Tom, you're missing an important piece of the equation: encryption.
Your data will be safe from theft, snooping or tampering as long as
it's properly encrypted. It won't necessarily be safe from loss, but
at least it cannot fall into the wrong hands.
Now, how you determine that it's
On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Tom Cakalic wrote:
Agreed. The ordinary computer user knows nothing about encryption. I'm
not an encryption expert by any means, but to me using encryption is
sort of like locking the door on my house. It makes me feel secure.
If you'd like to read an
On 05/06/2012 11:51 PM, David Mann wrote:
BTW there were plenty of legitimate users of Megaupload, as with any cloud
storage provider. But the feds won't tell you that.
From what I gather, it's the legitimate users who have suffered in this
case. Their data may be irretrievably gone.
It
On 05/06/2012 7:48 PM, steve harley wrote:
on 2012-06-05 6:17 William Robb wrote
Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as the
potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.
anyone who is depending _solely_ on cloud storage
Well yes, I mentioned that
From what I gather, it's the legitimate users who have suffered in this
case. Their data may be irretrievably gone.
It also appears that megaupload didn't really do all that much wrong, or
all that much different from other cloud storage facilities.
If this is the case, then it may well just
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:
IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got shut
down by the feds because some of their members were storing data they didn't
own.
Not sure who exactly you're talking about but Mega Upload was shut down by the
FBI,
On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:
IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got shut down
by the feds because some of their members were storing data they didn't own.
Not sure who exactly you're talking about but
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:
IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got
shut down by the feds because some of their members
As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?
On 6/5/2012 8:17 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:
IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got
shut down by the feds because some of their
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?
By virtue of a legally executed name change.
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?
By virtue of a legally executed name change.
Actually you don't even have to do that, you can call yourself any damn
thing
On 05/06/2012 10:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Calling Megaupload a cloud storage company is like calling the Mafia
a global security firm. Nobody legit had anything stored there. It
was/is for warez, swiped movies and music, etc.
I didn't know that.
Which reinforces my point, really. How may
on 2012-06-05 6:17 William Robb wrote
Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as the
potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.
anyone who is depending _solely_ on cloud storage
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On Jun 6, 2012, at 1:04 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 05/06/2012 10:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Calling Megaupload a cloud storage company is like calling the Mafia
a global security firm. Nobody legit had anything stored there. It
was/is for warez, swiped movies and music, etc.
I didn't
Why not use archival quality Blu Ray Discs. You could burn two or more
and disperse them to family/friends for safe keeping just in case
.
For those still in the DVD era, archival quality scratch proof coated
discs are available in over 8 GB capacities.
Ultimately all Hard Drives and solid
Sorry - writable optical media fail MUCH faster than hard drives, have
less capacity, and are much more maintenance work.
I wouldn't touch Blue-Ray for archive storage, don't bother with DVD either.
Rotating media hard drives are cheap and are currently the most
reliable and best bang for the
on 2012-06-04 10:54 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
Sorry - writable optical media fail MUCH faster than hard drives, have
less capacity, and are much more maintenance work.
I wouldn't touch Blue-Ray for archive storage, don't bother with DVD either.
indeed, i have a spindle of 90 or so DVD-R blanks
On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Larry -
This workaround works with Windows. Maybe you can come up with a way to do
this with the Mac OS.
http://vimeo.com/12697388
Thanks.
I suspect that the trick will be to just share files on an external drive, and
sneakernet the
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I suspect that the trick will be to just share files on an external drive,
and sneakernet the catalog.
Just put the Lightrom catalog folder on the same hard drive as the
image files and be sure that the drive has been
As a curious (perhaps pointless) counter-example: I've got some
software on oiled paper-tape that is going to outlast the DC600 tapes,
floppies, CDs, DVDs and harddrives that it's been migrated to over the
years.
Not that there's going to be much actual call for my copies of PDP8/e
Focal or OS8.
On 04/06/2012 9:23 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:
Why not use archival quality Blu Ray Discs. You could burn two or more
and disperse them to family/friends for safe keeping just in case
.
For those still in the DVD era, archival quality scratch proof coated
discs are available in over 8 GB
On 6/5/2012 05:38, William Robb wrote:
I've read reports of archival blue rays failing within startlingly short
periods of time, and cloud storage is only as long lived as the company
running the facility. IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company
in the USA that got shut down by the feds
Larry, I ran across this blog article on sharing Lr catalogs with
multi computers:
http://mansurovs.com/sharing-lightroom-catalog-with-multiple-computers
Cheers!
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I've got several related issues that may have a single
On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Larry, I ran across this blog article on sharing Lr catalogs with
multi computers:
http://mansurovs.com/sharing-lightroom-catalog-with-multiple-computers
Thanks.
I think that the answer is going to be closer to export to catalog and import
Larry -
This workaround works with Windows. Maybe you can come up with a way to do this
with the Mac OS.
http://vimeo.com/12697388
-p
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On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Larry, I ran across
On Jun 2, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
But then again, there is the prospect of off-line storage.
3T USB3 units are available for about $150 now.
Just fill it up and put it in the safe.
Yep, big USB drives are great. I have a pair of 2Tb USB2 drives for my photo
files. I
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
David Mann
The reason I keep the second drive in the garage is to keep me covered
in case the house burns down...
don't worry, Dave, your house won't burn down.
The ground will swallow it first.
B
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On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
On 2012-06-01 18:53, Larry Colen wrote:
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
Rule #1: More copies are better.
Rule #2: Make a copy, see rule #1.
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are
On 2012-06-02 7:28, Larry Colen wrote:
1. Main computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready
the four drive RAID 10 array is in the computer? [...] iMac or a laptop.
I'd need an external system.
I'm on Windows PCs for my main systems, with big tower cases. The
laptop just carries
On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are starting to
get full.
[snip]
I'm looking for suggestions as to general plan (for example, gigabit NAS), as
On 6/2/2012 01:53, Larry Colen wrote:
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are
starting to get full.
I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.
Larry, here is my setup, for
on 2012-06-02 5:28 Larry Colen wrote
What does one cost, with 6-8 TB of capacity?
if you shop sale prices, you can get a cheap 4-drive NAS enclosure for $2-300;
whether these are performant models i don't know; drives are extra
I suspect that the solution that I'll end up with for working
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are starting to
get full.
I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.
Zab's new laptop, a 17 macbook pro has more processing power than my iMac
Subject: External storage of raw files
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are
starting to get full.
I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.
Zab's new laptop, a 17
On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bob W wrote:
Lightroom is very slow over a network has been my experience. You're better
off keeping your catalogue on your fixed disk.
Yes, my catalog is on the internal disk. I've learned that lesson. I'll just
need to copy that back and forth between
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Subject: External storage of raw files
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw
Large volumes of data that need to be secure require more than a single
external drive.
Of course.
A SAN can be done inexpensively with a Linux install. And a SAN can be set
up for dynamic growth.
Need more space? Just add a drive and allocate it to the SAN volume.
It seems our data often
On 2012-06-01 18:53, Larry Colen wrote:
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
Rule #1: More copies are better.
Rule #2: Make a copy, see rule #1.
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are starting to
get full.
And they're probably in the
storage of raw files
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives. Both drives are
starting to get full.
I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.
Zab's new laptop, a 17 macbook pro has
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