RE: Is flare bad?

2003-03-18 Thread Hagner, Andrew
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is flare bad? *IF* you have some authority which asserts this to be true and describes the mechanism by which this raised level of light scatter is reduced by coatings, well then, I and others would like to see it. The Hasselblad Manual is one of the best book on photography

RE: Is flare bad?

2003-03-18 Thread Andre Langevin
Hi Andre: It is interesting what you say about the K35 f3.5 lens. I have actually acquired one recently in a like new condition. I used it last weekend and tested it for ghosting pointing the upper frame corner at the rather brilliant sun (the snow and ice desert of the completely frozen

RE: Is flare bad?

2003-03-18 Thread Hagner, Andrew
Andre: I would be interested in your findings so please post them. Best, - Andrew. -Original Message- From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 18, 2003 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is flare bad? Hi Andre: It is interesting what you say about the K35

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-14 Thread Bob Blakely
Accept my appologies too. I've been a bit testy lately. - Original Message - From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Is flare bad? Bob, I'm sorry. I was not trying to win a battle. I thought it would have been

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-13 Thread Andre Langevin
I don't agree Bob, because a ghost refers to an image of an existing and (relatively) identificable object, like the form of the aperture or some bright light that is part of the subject. And this is, I think, why the word ghost has been chosen to depict the effect. Lens flare as it is

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-13 Thread Bob Blakely
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't agree Bob, because a ghost refers to an image of an existing and (relatively) identificable object, like the form of the aperture Generally no. The form of the aperture is seen as an out of focus point light source. It is not flair, reflection or

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-12 Thread Andre Langevin
Effects often called flair are caused by: Reflections. - Produces defined ghosts. Bubbles in the glass. - Raises level of general light scatter reducing contrast. Other imperfections in the glass. - Raises level of general light scatter reducing contrast. Particles in the glass. -

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-11 Thread Andre Langevin
Ghosting is a form of flair.In fact, ghosting is the only form of flair that can be mitigated by quality lens coatings. Regards, Bob True that some ghosts still have a lot of flair but, joke apart, are you sure lens coatings only improved ghosting? I think it contributes to lower flare

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Mar 2003 at 15:56, Andre Langevin wrote: True that some ghosts still have a lot of flair but, joke apart, are you sure lens coatings only improved ghosting? I think it contributes to lower flare level of a lens even if lens construction is mostly involved. Or have I been mislead by

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Larson
- Original Message - From: Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Is flare bad? Hello to all, Just a general question. Is lens-flare considered generally bad for the photo? Two samples for your consideration

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
When you see the outline of the aperture opening, like you do in the two pictures you refer to, that isn't flare, it's ghosting. It isn't bad if it works as a compositional element. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, Just a general question. Is lens-flare considered generally bad for

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Bob Blakely
Yes, save for rare artistic constructions. Regards, Bob Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. -- Jed Babbit (Former US Under-secretary of Defense) From: Francis Alviar [EMAIL

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
If you saw it through the viewfinder, but it wasn't on the film, the lens coating had nothing to do with it. In both cases the light passed through the lens with the coating. The difference is that when you looked through the viewfinder the lens was wide open, but stopped down when the film

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
Francis, The flare in the photo with the bench is great. It adds to the shot. The flare in the house photo on the other hand just looks bad. I try to use flare when I can and when it looks appropriate. It's tough to make it work all the time. As the sun is just coming up or going down is

Re: Is flare bad?

2003-03-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Flare isn't always bad. Sometimes it contributes a sense of sunshine and well being. In your first example, I think the flare is a plus. In your second example, it's more of a distraction. I'm surprised you encountered flare in this image. There doesn't seem to be an obvious source. If you had